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OLGHA - GETTING BAN FOR BEING GOOD
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Why do he get ban from pugchamp ?
He play pyro in appropriate moments when he make the difference and he play less than 33% of the game, he's certainly doing his best cause every time he play pyro he pound. That’s an abuse and if your aim is to not develop the game, then you’re 50 iq. they should ban people that just uses market gardener in pug because “Play to the best of your ability. Do not play with the intent to ruin a PUG”, and am he ruining the pug by winning it ? he don’t think so

Why do he get ban from pugchamp ?
He play pyro in appropriate moments when he make the difference and he play less than 33% of the game, he's certainly doing his best cause every time he play pyro he pound. That’s an abuse and if your aim is to not develop the game, then you’re 50 iq. they should ban people that just uses market gardener in pug because “Play to the best of your ability. Do not play with the intent to ruin a PUG”, and am he ruining the pug by winning it ? he don’t think so
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http://geeko.lesoir.be/wp-content/uploads/sites/58/2015/08/lol-620x372.jpg

[img]http://geeko.lesoir.be/wp-content/uploads/sites/58/2015/08/lol-620x372.jpg[/img]
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#3
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what

what
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#4
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http://etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-34432/page-1/ context

http://etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-34432/page-1/ context
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#5
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I will not stand for this Injustice.

I will not stand for this Injustice.
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#6
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Is the dragon's fury banned on pugchamp?

Is the dragon's fury banned on pugchamp?
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#7
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https://i.imgur.com/W7LbL06.png

watch out

[img]https://i.imgur.com/W7LbL06.png[/img]

watch out
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#8
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Who banned my boy olgha?
Don't make me find out the hard way...

Who banned my boy olgha?
Don't make me find out the hard way...
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#9
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the meta has evolved, its just the stubborn pugchamp admins that fail to realise this... Pyro is not an "offclass" anymore !

the meta has evolved, its just the stubborn pugchamp admins that fail to realise this... Pyro is not an "offclass" anymore !
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#10
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Most of these players shouldn't even be an admin on pugchamp imo

Most of these players shouldn't even be an admin on pugchamp imo
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#11
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Getting banned for going 13-1 on Pyro xD

Getting banned for going 13-1 on Pyro xD
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#12
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bring justice to olgha

bring justice to olgha
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#13
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pyros should be castrated tbh

pyros should be castrated tbh
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#14
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WE DEMAND JUSTICE FOR OLGHA, FREE HIM

WE DEMAND JUSTICE FOR OLGHA, FREE HIM
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#15
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O L G H A P Y R O

https://imgur.com/a/hWeVA

O L G H A P Y R O

https://imgur.com/a/hWeVA
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#16
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I post it here if you want even tho it doesn't really concern americans players :

I would like to add that if you consider me as cancerous, you’re totally wrong :

First of all, you created a total fake team fortress 2, 6on6, by only considering a compo as 2 scouts, 2 soldiers 1 demo and 1 medic, and not even thinking about how you should you play these classes to make them strong (That’s why some players can’t be good at this game because they’re getting stuck to play 1 of these classes). we’ve been playing this league for a long time now, 10 years, 1 META, and you don’t even understand it. On top of that, people are mistaken on their way to improve : people now prefers to know how to airshots rather than understand why an airshot is important to hit at the right time and not all time, how to aim down 3 players while rushing, rather than playing around his mobility as scout ( #JustAboutDealing-3FromFarAwayWithYourScatterGun ), all those people thinks more about improve their personal performance and they learn in a bad way because it is supposed to be “how you play” (Fragmovie, interest for logs.tf…).
And what about winning games ? Stop shittalk your team and learn from your mistakes. But now what is most important is to go prem, for personal interest just to show that “you’re prem”, teams are dropping everywhere, they’re not getting better and that sucks. Now in grand finals (even in mid, big up to ringo squad) people are playing too safe, too dangerous to push and that shows how teamplay is not developed enough in 10 years of gaming. Why NA > EU, my answer : ETF2L’s mentality and spirit. People prefers to run conch’s and shit, counter-sack instead of winning the game, they’re just afraid to lose and that’s an idiot mentality.

Now back at pyro : The thing is that i made for you guys an alternative gameplay, that is not difficult to have, only by gamesens and positionning, doing well as a generalist. Valve gave us that because it can allow people who likes pyro to be good at 6’s but they can’t because of tiny nerds who just prefer to the game the way it is ( hello pugchamp admins). I will not remind you that a growing competitive game have to look from casual to pro the same way, Now Valve’s in, people’s out because of those people.

Why don’t we change those people then ? I tried, i failed, community tried, community fails.
because of 50iq nerds that try to be good somewhere in their life.

Hope that you find it interesting and you’ll tell me how wrong i am.

edit : Why would i talk on tftv, when i’m talking about europeans, tbh i don’t give a damn about americans, they have their own meta, and it's not related between them

I post it here if you want even tho it doesn't really concern americans players :

I would like to add that if you consider me as cancerous, you’re totally wrong :

First of all, you created a total fake team fortress 2, 6on6, by only considering a compo as 2 scouts, 2 soldiers 1 demo and 1 medic, and not even thinking about how you should you play these classes to make them strong (That’s why some players can’t be good at this game because they’re getting stuck to play 1 of these classes). we’ve been playing this league for a long time now, 10 years, 1 META, and you don’t even understand it. On top of that, people are mistaken on their way to improve : people now prefers to know how to airshots rather than understand why an airshot is important to hit at the right time and not all time, how to aim down 3 players while rushing, rather than playing around his mobility as scout ( #JustAboutDealing-3FromFarAwayWithYourScatterGun ), all those people thinks more about improve their personal performance and they learn in a bad way because it is supposed to be “how you play” (Fragmovie, interest for logs.tf…).
And what about winning games ? Stop shittalk your team and learn from your mistakes. But now what is most important is to go prem, for personal interest just to show that “you’re prem”, teams are dropping everywhere, they’re not getting better and that sucks. Now in grand finals (even in mid, big up to ringo squad) people are playing too safe, too dangerous to push and that shows how teamplay is not developed enough in 10 years of gaming. Why NA > EU, my answer : ETF2L’s mentality and spirit. People prefers to run conch’s and shit, counter-sack instead of winning the game, they’re just afraid to lose and that’s an idiot mentality.

Now back at pyro : The thing is that i made for you guys an alternative gameplay, that is not difficult to have, only by gamesens and positionning, doing well as a generalist. Valve gave us that because it can allow people who likes pyro to be good at 6’s but they can’t because of tiny nerds who just prefer to the game the way it is ( hello pugchamp admins). I will not remind you that a growing competitive game have to look from casual to pro the same way, Now Valve’s in, people’s out because of those people.

Why don’t we change those people then ? I tried, i failed, community tried, community fails.
because of 50iq nerds that try to be good somewhere in their life.

Hope that you find it interesting and you’ll tell me how wrong i am.

edit : Why would i talk on tftv, when i’m talking about europeans, tbh i don’t give a damn about americans, they have their own meta, and it's not related between them
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#17
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olgha reminds me of a European Gasgara tbh

olgha reminds me of a European Gasgara tbh
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#18
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Maybe Olgha is good at pyro and it could be valuable nowadays, but tbh I don't like playing against this class in 6s, and i guess I'm not the only one right ?

I'm split into giving a chance to pyro in 6s and keep it as an offclass.

Et j'attend que tu passes chez moi pour les 30€ :D

Maybe Olgha is good at pyro and it could be valuable nowadays, but tbh I don't like playing against this class in 6s, and i guess I'm not the only one right ?

I'm split into giving a chance to pyro in 6s and keep it as an offclass.

Et j'attend que tu passes chez moi pour les 30€ :D
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#19
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Pyro being viable will probably kill 6s for good.

Pyro being viable will probably kill 6s for good.
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#20
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GlastryEt j'attend que tu passes chez moi pour les 30€ :D

Oui c'est vrai :D

[quote=Glastry]
Et j'attend que tu passes chez moi pour les 30€ :D[/quote]
Oui c'est vrai :D
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#21
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OlghaI post it here if you want even tho it doesn't really concern americans players :

I would like to add that if you consider me as cancerous, you’re totally wrong :

First of all, you created a total fake team fortress 2, 6on6, by only considering a compo as 2 scouts, 2 soldiers 1 demo and 1 medic, and not even thinking about how you should you play these classes to make them strong (That’s why some players can’t be good at this game because they’re getting stuck to play 1 of these classes). we’ve been playing this league for a long time now, 10 years, 1 META, and you don’t even understand it. On top of that, people are mistaken on their way to improve : people now prefers to know how to airshots rather than understand why an airshot is important to hit at the right time and not all time, how to aim down 3 players while rushing, rather than playing around his mobility as scout ( #JustAboutDealing-3FromFarAwayWithYourScatterGun ), all those people thinks more about improve their personal performance and they learn in a bad way because it is supposed to be “how you play” (Fragmovie, interest for logs.tf…).
And what about winning games ? Stop shittalk your team and learn from your mistakes. But now what is most important is to go prem, for personal interest just to show that “you’re prem”, teams are dropping everywhere, they’re not getting better and that sucks. Now in grand finals (even in mid, big up to ringo squad) people are playing too safe, too dangerous to push and that shows how teamplay is not developed enough in 10 years of gaming. Why NA > EU, my answer : ETF2L’s mentality and spirit. People prefers to run conch’s and shit, counter-sack instead of winning the game, they’re just afraid to lose and that’s an idiot mentality.

Now back at pyro : The thing is that i made for you guys an alternative gameplay, that is not difficult to have, only by gamesens and positionning, doing well as a generalist. Valve gave us that because it can allow people who likes pyro to be good at 6’s but they can’t because of tiny nerds who just prefer to the game the way it is ( hello pugchamp admins). I will not remind you that a growing competitive game have to look from casual to pro the same way, Now Valve’s in, people’s out because of those people.

Why don’t we change those people then ? I tried, i failed, community tried, community fails.
because of 50iq nerds that try to be good somewhere in their life.

Hope that you find it interesting and you’ll tell me how wrong i am.

edit : Why would i talk on tftv, when i’m talking about europeans, tbh i don’t give a damn about americans, they have their own meta, and it's not related between them

Haters gonna make fun of you because you went pyro in 6s but everything you've typed here is 100% correct.

(Though I'd argue that in a mix environment there's an unspoken expectation that the default format is used, but even that should only really matter in low div mixes)

[quote=Olgha]I post it here if you want even tho it doesn't really concern americans players :

I would like to add that if you consider me as cancerous, you’re totally wrong :

First of all, you created a total fake team fortress 2, 6on6, by only considering a compo as 2 scouts, 2 soldiers 1 demo and 1 medic, and not even thinking about how you should you play these classes to make them strong (That’s why some players can’t be good at this game because they’re getting stuck to play 1 of these classes). we’ve been playing this league for a long time now, 10 years, 1 META, and you don’t even understand it. On top of that, people are mistaken on their way to improve : people now prefers to know how to airshots rather than understand why an airshot is important to hit at the right time and not all time, how to aim down 3 players while rushing, rather than playing around his mobility as scout ( #JustAboutDealing-3FromFarAwayWithYourScatterGun ), all those people thinks more about improve their personal performance and they learn in a bad way because it is supposed to be “how you play” (Fragmovie, interest for logs.tf…).
And what about winning games ? Stop shittalk your team and learn from your mistakes. But now what is most important is to go prem, for personal interest just to show that “you’re prem”, teams are dropping everywhere, they’re not getting better and that sucks. Now in grand finals (even in mid, big up to ringo squad) people are playing too safe, too dangerous to push and that shows how teamplay is not developed enough in 10 years of gaming. Why NA > EU, my answer : ETF2L’s mentality and spirit. People prefers to run conch’s and shit, counter-sack instead of winning the game, they’re just afraid to lose and that’s an idiot mentality.

Now back at pyro : The thing is that i made for you guys an alternative gameplay, that is not difficult to have, only by gamesens and positionning, doing well as a generalist. Valve gave us that because it can allow people who likes pyro to be good at 6’s but they can’t because of tiny nerds who just prefer to the game the way it is ( hello pugchamp admins). I will not remind you that a growing competitive game have to look from casual to pro the same way, Now Valve’s in, people’s out because of those people.

Why don’t we change those people then ? I tried, i failed, community tried, community fails.
because of 50iq nerds that try to be good somewhere in their life.

Hope that you find it interesting and you’ll tell me how wrong i am.

edit : Why would i talk on tftv, when i’m talking about europeans, tbh i don’t give a damn about americans, they have their own meta, and it's not related between them[/quote]

Haters gonna make fun of you because you went pyro in 6s but everything you've typed here is 100% correct.


(Though I'd argue that in a mix environment there's an unspoken expectation that the default format is used, but even that should only really matter in low div mixes)
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#22
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FuxxHaters gonna make fun of you because you went pyro in 6s but everything you've typed here is 100% correct.

(Though I'd argue that in a mix environment there's an unspoken expectation that the default format is used, but even that should only really matter in low div mixes)

For real, though. If you wanna play pyro in 6s join a team and play against organized players. Running a pyro/sniper/spy in pugs takes advantage of the chaotic nature of a pug and boosts their effectiveness. That's why people don't like it.

[quote=Fuxx]
Haters gonna make fun of you because you went pyro in 6s but everything you've typed here is 100% correct.


(Though I'd argue that in a mix environment there's an unspoken expectation that the default format is used, but even that should only really matter in low div mixes)[/quote]

For real, though. If you wanna play pyro in 6s join a team and play against organized players. Running a pyro/sniper/spy in pugs takes advantage of the chaotic nature of a pug and boosts their effectiveness. That's why people don't like it.
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#23
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https://i.imgur.com/OE2GAEs.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/OE2GAEs.png[/img]
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#24
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if the guy is playing fulltime pyro just have ur scouts walk backwards and shoot lmao its not hard

if the guy is playing fulltime pyro just have ur scouts walk backwards and shoot lmao its not hard
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#25
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DanceNumberFuxx
For real, though. If you wanna play pyro in 6s join a team and play against organized players. Running a pyro/sniper/spy in pugs takes advantage of the chaotic nature of a pug and boosts their effectiveness. That's why people don't like it.

Which is fair up until a certain skill level. The meta exists the way it does because it is meant to hard counter any deviations from it, something that even moderate skill level players should be able to do. If they can't then maybe there's some worth to Olgha's argument.

[quote=DanceNumber][quote=Fuxx]
[/quote]

For real, though. If you wanna play pyro in 6s join a team and play against organized players. Running a pyro/sniper/spy in pugs takes advantage of the chaotic nature of a pug and boosts their effectiveness. That's why people don't like it.[/quote]
Which is fair up until a certain skill level. The meta exists the way it does because it is meant to hard counter any deviations from it, something that even moderate skill level players should be able to do. If they can't then maybe there's some worth to Olgha's argument.
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#26
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also FREE OLGHA INNOVATING THE META

also FREE OLGHA INNOVATING THE META
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#27
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jetzzzzzif the guy is playing fulltime pyro just have ur scouts walk backwards and shoot lmao its not hard

just have your team stay in spawn you cant die then guys lol !!! !

[quote=jetzzzzz]if the guy is playing fulltime pyro just have ur scouts walk backwards and shoot lmao its not hard[/quote]
just have your team stay in spawn you cant die then guys lol !!! !
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#28
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frenchies smh

frenchies smh
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#29
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To be fair, pyro stock particles are kind of buggy right now which gives pyro a significant DPS boost for less aim than ever. However, I can't agree with banning someone for not sticking to the cookie cutter meta, especially when said strats actually work both in pugs and official matches. Or at least they will until pyro gets fixed, which at this rate is looking like never. The meta shouldn't be something so rigid it may as well be set in stone, and discouraging people from trying something that's not the accepted cookie cutter formula is pretty harmful to the community as a whole. #freeolgha

To be fair, pyro stock particles are kind of buggy right now which gives pyro a significant DPS boost for less aim than ever. However, I can't agree with banning someone for not sticking to the cookie cutter meta, especially when said strats actually work both in pugs and official matches. Or at least they will until pyro gets fixed, which at this rate is looking like never. The meta shouldn't be something so rigid it may as well be set in stone, and discouraging people from trying something that's not the accepted cookie cutter formula is pretty harmful to the community as a whole. #freeolgha
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#30
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Pyro is objectively aids to play against.

Pyro is objectively aids to play against.
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