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ESEA-O S21 Happenings/Predictions
871
#871
13 Frags +

Our team, Scared of Sundays finished the season 8-8 (with 7 ffws). Being one of newbie mix teams that didn't fold was a great experience for everyone on our team, we learned so much and had a great time. We shall be returning next season with a very similar team and hope to style ourselves as mid-open.

I want to give a big shoutout to Kevinispwn and the newbie mix staff for putting us and the other newbie mix teams together, it was a blast. I also want to thank our mentor Tery_ who taught us all so much about high level tf2 that we will be able to use for seasons to come.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs!

Our team, Scared of Sundays finished the season 8-8 (with 7 ffws). Being one of newbie mix teams that didn't fold was a great experience for everyone on our team, we learned so much and had a great time. We shall be returning next season with a very similar team and hope to style ourselves as mid-open.

I want to give a big shoutout to Kevinispwn and the newbie mix staff for putting us and the other newbie mix teams together, it was a blast. I also want to thank our mentor Tery_ who taught us all so much about high level tf2 that we will be able to use for seasons to come.

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs!
872
#872
-3 Frags +
PurpleShirtwoodpig will win

you have to believe...........

purple shirt....................

[quote=PurpleShirt]woodpig will win[/quote]

you have to believe...........

purple shirt....................
873
#873
2 Frags +
throneI have returned from my 6-match absence and I hope everyone had a good end of the season and gl in playoffs.

I missed u lilmoma

[quote=throne]I have returned from my 6-match absence and I hope everyone had a good end of the season and gl in playoffs.[/quote]
I missed u lilmoma
874
#874
0 Frags +
tojothroneI have returned from my 6-match absence and I hope everyone had a good end of the season and gl in playoffs.I missed u lilmoma

I missed u too 25i

[quote=tojo][quote=throne]I have returned from my 6-match absence and I hope everyone had a good end of the season and gl in playoffs.[/quote]
I missed u lilmoma[/quote]
I missed u too 25i
875
#875
-2 Frags +
Super-lootshouldn't NAB be seeded above Baddies, since the teams are even on wins and rounds for but NAB won the head to head? Or are they doing it different this season?

likewise with diexxxtracrispy over Decent Dudes
http://i.prntscr.com/c469f0f999f94389982ba298c71806f0.png
yeah its pretty gay rofl

The funny thing is if we and the Baddies switched and then diexxxtracrispy and Decent Dudes switched, we would all still have the same first-round matches. It would only change second round. Still, that would mean us not facing wood pig second round, if we made it past the first.

My team had the head-to-head thing come up last season with the team Open Winners, though, and what I've heard is that head-to-head record doesn't actually mean anything unless you're in invite, regardless of what the rules actually say, haha. Thing is, though, we and the Baddies are the only ones with a 12-4 record... hmm...

[quote=Super-][quote=loot]shouldn't NAB be seeded above Baddies, since the teams are even on wins and rounds for but NAB won the head to head? Or are they doing it different this season?

likewise with diexxxtracrispy over Decent Dudes[/quote]
[img]http://i.prntscr.com/c469f0f999f94389982ba298c71806f0.png[/img]
yeah its pretty gay rofl[/quote]

The funny thing is if we and the Baddies switched and then diexxxtracrispy and Decent Dudes switched, we would all still have the same first-round matches. It would only change second round. Still, that would mean us not facing wood pig second round, if we made it past the first.

My team had the head-to-head thing [url=www.teamfortress.tv/29626/esea-playoff-seeds-and-tie-breakers]come up last season[/url] with the team Open Winners, though, and what I've heard is that head-to-head record doesn't actually mean anything unless you're in invite, regardless of what the rules actually say, haha. Thing is, though, we and the Baddies are the only ones with a 12-4 record... hmm...
876
#876
1 Frags +
ESEA Tiebreaker Rules
  • Open division:
    • Overall record then by
    • Head to head record then by
    • Highest amount of regulation rounds won
    • Single map playoff if all other tie breaker scenarios are indecisive

The head-to-head rules were added in recent seasons, so they should be accurate, and since there are only two teams involved in this tiebreaker, with one match between the two, there's no reason it shouldn't be applied.

Last season, all teams in the tiebreaker did not play each other, so head-to-head couldn't be applied.

[quote=ESEA Tiebreaker Rules]
[list]
[*] Open division:
[*] [list]
[*] Overall record then by
[*] Head to head record then by
[*] Highest amount of regulation rounds won
[*] Single map playoff if all other tie breaker scenarios are indecisive
[/list]
[/list]
[/quote]

The head-to-head rules were added in recent seasons, so they should be accurate, and since there are only two teams involved in this tiebreaker, with one match between the two, there's no reason it shouldn't be applied.

Last season, all teams in the tiebreaker did not play each other, so head-to-head couldn't be applied.
877
#877
-3 Frags +

If that's the case, we would play diexxxtracrispy and The Baddies would get Decent Dudes. :0

If that's the case, we would play diexxxtracrispy and The Baddies would get Decent Dudes. :0
878
#878
2 Frags +

if that's the case, I suspect the order for the 5 teams tied at 14 wins and the 5 teams tied at 11 wins should change

Chefs and Arstotzka haven't played any other teams with 11 wins, but CoryActuallyGetsJuiced beat Westbrook Effect who beat Veggie Tales (Westbrook Effect should move above Veggies Tales)

spots 3-7 are less obvious, wood pig beat diexxxtracrispy who beat decent dudes, but wood pig lost to thai guys and decent dudes. I believe it should be:
3. duck sauce
4. THAI GUYS
5. wood pig
6. diexxxtracrispy
7. decent dudes
since those last 3 have an inconclusive circle of losses, but wood pig has the most rounds, and between diexxxtracrispy and decent dudes (who are tied for rounds) crispy has the head to head advantage. I could be wrong though.

tl;dr the brackets should look like this if ESEA follows their own tiebreaker rules: https://i.sli.mg/ksyyx0.png

if that's the case, I suspect the order for the 5 teams tied at 14 wins and the 5 teams tied at 11 wins should change

Chefs and Arstotzka haven't played any other teams with 11 wins, but CoryActuallyGetsJuiced beat Westbrook Effect who beat Veggie Tales (Westbrook Effect should move above Veggies Tales)

spots 3-7 are less obvious, wood pig beat diexxxtracrispy who beat decent dudes, but wood pig lost to thai guys and decent dudes. I [i]believe[/i] it should be:
3. duck sauce
4. THAI GUYS
5. wood pig
6. diexxxtracrispy
7. decent dudes
since those last 3 have an inconclusive circle of losses, but wood pig has the most rounds, and between diexxxtracrispy and decent dudes (who are tied for rounds) crispy has the head to head advantage. I could be wrong though.

tl;dr the brackets should look like this if ESEA follows their own tiebreaker rules: https://i.sli.mg/ksyyx0.png
879
#879
-3 Frags +

Naw, I don't think the 14-win folks would switch around, seeing as it's kinda similar to the bubble teams from last season (see the thread I linked before). As in, not every team that went 14-2 this season played every other team with the same record, so head-to-head rules won't be applied. Like what tsc said.

The sorting you're using is like... an amalgam of different factors. It's not esea is gonna go, "Okay, we'll apply rounds but override that for head-to-head record when it exists kinda." If esea does follow their rules for open, they'll go down the list in order. That is, if there's a tie in record, they look at H2H. If that doesn't apply for all teams tied in record, they go to rounds.

I don't like at all that there's a rule system that doesn't work directly with the rankings generated throughout the season, though. It's just a baad website, man. Nothing is transparent.

Naw, I don't think the 14-win folks would switch around, seeing as it's kinda similar to the bubble teams from last season (see the thread I linked before). As in, not every team that went 14-2 this season played every other team with the same record, so head-to-head rules won't be applied. Like what tsc said.

The sorting you're using is like... an amalgam of different factors. It's not esea is gonna go, "Okay, we'll apply rounds but override that for head-to-head record when it exists kinda." If esea does follow their rules for open, they'll go down the list in order. That is, if there's a tie in record, they look at H2H. If that doesn't apply for all teams tied in record, they go to rounds.

I don't like at all that there's a rule system that doesn't work directly with the rankings generated throughout the season, though. It's just a baad website, man. Nothing is transparent.
880
#880
0 Frags +

yeah I'm not really sure about spots 5-7. THAI GUYS should be above wood pig for sure though. IDK the current order doesn't make sense.

yeah I'm not really sure about spots 5-7. THAI GUYS should be above wood pig for sure though. IDK the current order doesn't make sense.
881
#881
29 Frags +

I can't wait to play on a team with megaboy again for next season

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I can't wait to play on a team with megaboy again for next season
[spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtAx3lxmjc&feature=youtu.be[/spoiler]
882
#882
3 Frags +

gonna lock this when matches start (1 hour), get yo predictions in if you wanna win a few keys

http://challonge.com/ESEA_O_S21_Playoffs

gonna lock this when matches start (1 hour), get yo predictions in if you wanna win a few keys

http://challonge.com/ESEA_O_S21_Playoffs
883
#883
3 Frags +
fatswimdudegonna lock this when matches start (1 hour), get yo predictions in if you wanna win a few keys

http://challonge.com/ESEA_O_S21_Playoffs

thanks for doing this, its really fun to predict and know who to cheer for

[quote=fatswimdude]gonna lock this when matches start (1 hour), get yo predictions in if you wanna win a few keys

http://challonge.com/ESEA_O_S21_Playoffs[/quote]
thanks for doing this, its really fun to predict and know who to cheer for
884
#884
11 Frags +

woo ya shoutout to everybody with a perfect bracket so far keep up the good work!

woo ya shoutout to everybody with a perfect bracket so far keep up the good work!
885
#885
3 Frags +

why is exile taking 4 times the heals that yuice is :VVVVVV

also go keith and diexxtracrispy!

why is exile taking 4 times the heals that yuice is :VVVVVV

also go keith and diexxtracrispy!
886
#886
1 Frags +

When your router kills itself in the middle of playoff matches....ffs..

When your router kills itself in the middle of playoff matches....ffs..
887
#887
11 Frags +

Welp literally everyone that sent in predictions got that one wrong.

Welp literally everyone that sent in predictions got that one wrong.
888
#888
11 Frags +

ggwp baddies,we played bad and they punished us for it,they outplayed us,no excuses. gl in the rest of playoffs (also <3 u exile)

ggwp baddies,we played bad and they punished us for it,they outplayed us,no excuses. gl in the rest of playoffs (also <3 u exile)
889
#889
7 Frags +

kingbigmacIII : marquee is a better scout then alder
kingbigmacIII : by a lot

http://www.ibiblio.org/samneill/pictures/moim/470gun4.jpg

gg to the baddies

kingbigmacIII : marquee is a better scout then alder
kingbigmacIII : by a lot

[img]http://www.ibiblio.org/samneill/pictures/moim/470gun4.jpg[/img]

gg to the baddies
890
#890
4 Frags +

ggs extracrispy. granary was pretty nuts. best of luck to all of you next season

ggs extracrispy. granary was pretty nuts. best of luck to all of you next season
891
#891
9 Frags +

I'm not going to make any excuses because team name tbd played well, I just wish our sunshine had played out with a non-timing out demoman.

I will note TheYellowCellPhone went out with a bang, with a fat 4k before standing still and timing out.

GG's, here's to next season!

Edit: Also, sorry to make you play until 2 am, thanks for being super cool and extremely patient with our frequent pauses for crashes and disconnections.

I'm not going to make any excuses because team name tbd played well, I just wish our sunshine had played out with a non-timing out demoman.

I will note TheYellowCellPhone went out with a bang, with a fat 4k before standing still and timing out.

GG's, here's to next season!

Edit: Also, sorry to make you play until 2 am, thanks for being super cool and extremely patient with our frequent pauses for crashes and disconnections.
892
#892
10 Frags +

I am so sad :(

I was fine until Sunshine, then my Internet provider would just randomly cut the Internet. And when I was in Sunshine, I was spiking about every minute. After the third Internet outage my team barred me from rejoining because I was a liability and they just wanted to use a sub and be over with it.

I just feel so defeated. My team lost partly because I couldn't maintain my Internet connection, and I was powerless to get back in. We lost a 4 hour playoff game because I lost Internet in the last ten minutes.

Good game to team name tbd, I just wish that it hadn't ended with a myriad of pauses and ping spiking and last minute paying for subs.

I am so sad :(

I was fine until Sunshine, then my Internet provider would just randomly cut the Internet. And when I was in Sunshine, I was spiking about every minute. After the third Internet outage my team barred me from rejoining because I was a liability and they just wanted to use a sub and be over with it.

I just feel so defeated. My team lost partly because I couldn't maintain my Internet connection, and I was powerless to get back in. We lost a 4 hour playoff game because I lost Internet in the last ten minutes.

Good game to team name tbd, I just wish that it hadn't ended with a myriad of pauses and ping spiking and last minute paying for subs.
893
#893
6 Frags +

classic alder still doing sub 200 dpm in open & losing to baddies
smh

classic alder still doing sub 200 dpm in open & losing to baddies
smh
894
#894
4 Frags +

gg to the baddies
im a chronic choker

gg to the baddies
im a chronic choker
895
#895
0 Frags +

Arent we all chronic chokers?

Arent we all chronic chokers?
896
#896
4 Frags +

looks like no one is winning those 3 keys

looks like no one is winning those 3 keys
897
#897
-9 Frags +
YellowCellPhoneI am so sad :(

I was fine until Sunshine, then my Internet provider would just randomly cut the Internet. And when I was in Sunshine, I was spiking about every minute. After the third Internet outage my team barred me from rejoining because I was a liability and they just wanted to use a sub and be over with it.

I just feel so defeated. My team lost partly because I couldn't maintain my Internet connection, and I was powerless to get back in.

Good game to team name tbd, I just wish that it hadn't ended with a myriad of pauses and ping spiking and last minute paying for subs.

it's all good man, good game to everyone on esd! i had a bunch of fun last night, the golden cap was so long too lmao.

[quote=YellowCellPhone]I am so sad :(

I was fine until Sunshine, then my Internet provider would just randomly cut the Internet. And when I was in Sunshine, I was spiking about every minute. After the third Internet outage my team barred me from rejoining because I was a liability and they just wanted to use a sub and be over with it.

I just feel so defeated. My team lost partly because I couldn't maintain my Internet connection, and I was powerless to get back in.

Good game to team name tbd, I just wish that it hadn't ended with a myriad of pauses and ping spiking and last minute paying for subs.[/quote]
it's all good man, good game to everyone on esd! i had a bunch of fun last night, the golden cap was so long too lmao.
898
#898
3 Frags +

you know, i was really worried for a bit there, but thanks to our great teamwork and coordination we overcame our enemies!!!

great games to veggie tales!!!
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6450133

ny1 below line is gay...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

you know, i was really worried for a bit there, but thanks to our great teamwork and coordination we overcame our enemies!!!

great games to veggie tales!!!
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6450133

ny1 below line is gay...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
899
#899
1 Frags +
tatuwahyou know, i was really worried for a bit there, but thanks to our great teamwork and coordination we overcame our enemies!!!

great games to veggie tales!!!
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6450133

im gay

too bad you gonna lose tmmrw.......... . . .....

[quote=tatuwah]you know, i was really worried for a bit there, but thanks to our great teamwork and coordination we overcame our enemies!!!

great games to veggie tales!!!
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=6450133

im gay[/quote]

too bad you gonna lose tmmrw.......... . . .....
900
#900
6 Frags +

gg to thai guys, thanks for a good season everyone. gl for rest of playoffs!

gg to thai guys, thanks for a good season everyone. gl for rest of playoffs!
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