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A couple years ago when I lived in Boulder, CO, the internet I used had no data limit. I think I was using Comcast at the time, and the speeds weren't horrible and the prices were okay. Now I'm living in Alaska, and the internet all seems much more expensive, and the speeds are definitely better. But now there's a data limit on everything, and it's pretty annoying because Netflix and twitch streams really chew through it quickly.

I'm just curious if data limits are common everywhere these days as far as regular internet goes, or if it just seems to be an AK thing?

A couple years ago when I lived in Boulder, CO, the internet I used had no data limit. I think I was using Comcast at the time, and the speeds weren't horrible and the prices were okay. Now I'm living in Alaska, and the internet all seems much more expensive, and the speeds are definitely better. But now there's a data limit on everything, and it's pretty annoying because Netflix and twitch streams really chew through it quickly.

I'm just curious if data limits are common everywhere these days as far as regular internet goes, or if it just seems to be an AK thing?
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I know a few Canadians that experience the bandwidth cap and I could only imagine what its like. Its a way for cable providers to wring the last few dimes out of their customers for living in an area with little competition ie rural areas and such. I haven't heard of large metropolitan areas having such a thing, most likely due to fiber making waves in some cities (please google if ur reading this come to detroit) and being right around the corner for everyone.

I know a few Canadians that experience the bandwidth cap and I could only imagine what its like. Its a way for cable providers to wring the last few dimes out of their customers for living in an area with little competition ie rural areas and such. I haven't heard of large metropolitan areas having such a thing, most likely due to fiber making waves in some cities (please google if ur reading this come to detroit) and being right around the corner for everyone.
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wrechedddddI know a few Canadians that experience the bandwidth cap and I could only imagine what its like. Its a way for cable providers to wring the last few dimes out of their customers for living in an area with little competition ie rural areas and such. I haven't heard of large metropolitan areas having such a thing, most likely due to fiber making waves in some cities (please google if ur reading this come to detroit) and being right around the corner for everyone.

I live in Anchorage, which is a relatively large place (I think ~350,000 people), and definitely bigger than Boulder (~85,000 last I checked). Only difference is that Boulder is near Denver which is huge, and Alaska's total population is like ~850,000 in the whole state. Fuckin' internet companies man, they all seem like assholes. Can't wait til google fiber takes over the world.

[quote=wrecheddddd]I know a few Canadians that experience the bandwidth cap and I could only imagine what its like. Its a way for cable providers to wring the last few dimes out of their customers for living in an area with little competition ie rural areas and such. I haven't heard of large metropolitan areas having such a thing, most likely due to fiber making waves in some cities (please google if ur reading this come to detroit) and being right around the corner for everyone.[/quote]

I live in Anchorage, which is a relatively large place (I think ~350,000 people), and definitely bigger than Boulder (~85,000 last I checked). Only difference is that Boulder is near Denver which is huge, and Alaska's total population is like ~850,000 in the whole state. Fuckin' internet companies man, they all seem like assholes. Can't wait til google fiber takes over the world.
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Comcast everywhere had a 250GB or 300GB data cap until around 2012 or 2013 when they "suspended enforcement pending a potential increase". They haven't reinstated the cap for most customers but it's Comcast, they'll definitely do it sometime.

In Canada it's common to have double digit data caps per month, shit is absurd.

Comcast everywhere had a 250GB or 300GB data cap until around 2012 or 2013 when they "suspended enforcement pending a potential increase". They haven't reinstated the cap for most customers but it's Comcast, they'll definitely do it sometime.

In Canada it's common to have double digit data caps per month, shit is absurd.
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Shaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.

Shaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.
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DanceNumberShaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.

my guess is they have a better pr team that uses better memes

[quote=DanceNumber]Shaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.[/quote]

my guess is they have a better pr team that uses better memes
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yttriumComcast everywhere had a 250GB or 300GB data cap until around 2012 or 2013 when they "suspended enforcement pending a potential increase". They haven't reinstated the cap for most customers but it's Comcast, they'll definitely do it sometime.

In Canada it's common to have double digit data caps per month, shit is absurd.

My data cap was 75GB for a while, which was not enough. I'm paying ~$100 for 150GB a month now.

[quote=yttrium]Comcast everywhere had a 250GB or 300GB data cap until around 2012 or 2013 when they "suspended enforcement pending a potential increase". They haven't reinstated the cap for most customers but it's Comcast, they'll definitely do it sometime.

In Canada it's common to have double digit data caps per month, shit is absurd.[/quote]

My data cap was 75GB for a while, which was not enough. I'm paying ~$100 for 150GB a month now.
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DanceNumberShaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.

I had a lengthy conversation with a shaw employee while he was replacing our router about how he used to play CS competitively but just gave up and switched to LoL because the internet here just sucks. The only other isp's are rogers and telus and theyre even worse it's crazy. I'd kill for some fiber.

[quote=DanceNumber]Shaw cable over here in Sask has data caps as well. It's a terrible thing, luckily we also have sasktel cable and they have fiber + no caps. I have no idea how Shaw gets any customers.[/quote]

I had a lengthy conversation with a shaw employee while he was replacing our router about how he used to play CS competitively but just gave up and switched to LoL because the internet here just sucks. The only other isp's are rogers and telus and theyre even worse it's crazy. I'd kill for some fiber.
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I have a cap on my cogeco internet in ontario canada

I have a cap on my cogeco internet in ontario canada
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Yeah I'm in Toronto and I have a 20GB monthly cap. I can get it increased but I would need to pay the fees to upgrade to faster internet before I can increase the cap, and it's expensive to do that

Yeah I'm in Toronto and I have a 20GB monthly cap. I can get it increased but I would need to pay the fees to upgrade to faster internet before I can increase the cap, and it's expensive to do that
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I used to have a 60GB/month cap. I pay 10$/month extra for unlimited internet ;_;

I used to have a 60GB/month cap. I pay 10$/month extra for unlimited internet ;_;
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I might just be an Alaska thing/canada thing. I guess the infrastructure is really limited on what it can do, especially when it has to cross such undeveloped areas.

I might just be an Alaska thing/canada thing. I guess the infrastructure is really limited on what it can do, especially when it has to cross such undeveloped areas.
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i have a 40 GB datacap, luckily its impossible to reach with a download speed of 100kb/s

i have a 40 GB datacap, luckily its impossible to reach with a download speed of 100kb/s
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jesus christ i feel terrible for all you people

jesus christ i feel terrible for all you people
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I used to have a 30GB/month limit 4 years ago. It was fucking terrible.

I used to have a 30GB/month limit 4 years ago. It was fucking terrible.
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Bell came out with fiber in Canada and basically forced Rogers, the other big provider, to stop having caps. That seems good in theory.

Bell came out with fiber in Canada and basically forced Rogers, the other big provider, to stop having caps. That seems good in theory.
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GetawhaleBell came out with fiber in Canada and basically forced Rogers, the other big provider, to stop having caps. That seems good in theory.

I know lots of people here in Toronto with Rogers who have data caps, what city do you live in?

[quote=Getawhale]Bell came out with fiber in Canada and basically forced Rogers, the other big provider, to stop having caps. That seems good in theory.[/quote]

I know lots of people here in Toronto with Rogers who have data caps, what city do you live in?
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I'm with Rogers in Toronto with a 300gb cap. $100-something a month.

I'm with Rogers in Toronto with a 300gb cap. $100-something a month.
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My data cap is 300 GB, while anything between 2AM and 8AM doesn't count towards the cap. 25 down 2.5 up, $40 a month. I can add 5 bucks a month to make it unlimited.

I think I have it pretty good as far as Canada is concerned.

My data cap is 300 GB, while anything between 2AM and 8AM doesn't count towards the cap. 25 down 2.5 up, $40 a month. I can add 5 bucks a month to make it unlimited.

I think I have it pretty good as far as Canada is concerned.
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miwojesus christ i feel terrible for all you people

yeah no kidding, i know a lot of cities/towns are limited to one isp (usually) 2 options if you're lucky or in a bigger area but having only one internet option + a cap sounds pretty brutal. i never dealt with a cap before with optimum or fios

i don't really know a ton about this issue maybe someone that works for an isp can shed some light on it. seems like if the company knows you have no other options for the area you live in they will cap it no matter what. because you cant really call up and say oh if you dont take off the cap i'm gonna switch ISP's. (this works if you have 2 options 100% guaranteed) they don't wanna lose business ever so they will do whatever it takes to accommodate you. like if your bill is higher for whatever reason just call and ask why you shouldn't switch providers (better if you have a package like internet + phone + tv)

[quote=miwo]jesus christ i feel terrible for all you people[/quote]

yeah no kidding, i know a lot of cities/towns are limited to one isp (usually) 2 options if you're lucky or in a bigger area but having only one internet option + a cap sounds pretty brutal. i never dealt with a cap before with optimum or fios

i don't really know a ton about this issue maybe someone that works for an isp can shed some light on it. seems like if the company knows you have no other options for the area you live in they will cap it no matter what. because you cant really call up and say oh if you dont take off the cap i'm gonna switch ISP's. (this works if you have 2 options 100% guaranteed) they don't wanna lose business ever so they will do whatever it takes to accommodate you. like if your bill is higher for whatever reason just call and ask why you shouldn't switch providers (better if you have a package like internet + phone + tv)
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A few years ago our limit was 5GB, now it's 50GB on peak and something like 75GB off peak (12am-11.59am) which we never use up because it's just too inconvenient

Shit speeds too naturally

E: the post below describes the situation here perfectly as well

A few years ago our limit was 5GB, now it's 50GB on peak and something like 75GB off peak (12am-11.59am) which we never use up because it's just too inconvenient

Shit speeds too naturally

E: the post below describes the situation here perfectly as well
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defymiwojesus christ i feel terrible for all you people
yeah no kidding, i know a lot of cities/towns are limited to one isp (usually) 2 options if you're lucky or in a bigger area but having only one internet option + a cap sounds pretty brutal. i never dealt with a cap before with optimum or fios

i don't really know a ton about this issue maybe someone that works for an isp can shed some light on it. seems like if the company knows you have no other options for the area you live in they will cap it no matter what. because you cant really call up and say oh if you dont take off the cap i'm gonna switch ISP's. (this works if you have 2 options 100% guaranteed) they don't wanna lose business ever so they will do whatever it takes to accommodate you. like if your bill is higher for whatever reason just call and ask why you shouldn't switch providers (better if you have a package like internet + phone + tv)

Here we have more than 1 ISP, they just have the exact same prices and shit service. It's as if you had 1 ISP, but you can't really bring the argument that competition might fix everything because there already is (supposedly) competition. idk if calling the isp would work considering they know your only other option is paying the same price

[quote=defy][quote=miwo]jesus christ i feel terrible for all you people[/quote]

yeah no kidding, i know a lot of cities/towns are limited to one isp (usually) 2 options if you're lucky or in a bigger area but having only one internet option + a cap sounds pretty brutal. i never dealt with a cap before with optimum or fios

i don't really know a ton about this issue maybe someone that works for an isp can shed some light on it. seems like if the company knows you have no other options for the area you live in they will cap it no matter what. because you cant really call up and say oh if you dont take off the cap i'm gonna switch ISP's. (this works if you have 2 options 100% guaranteed) they don't wanna lose business ever so they will do whatever it takes to accommodate you. like if your bill is higher for whatever reason just call and ask why you shouldn't switch providers (better if you have a package like internet + phone + tv)[/quote]

Here we have more than 1 ISP, they just have the exact same prices and shit service. It's as if you had 1 ISP, but you can't really bring the argument that competition might fix everything because there already is (supposedly) competition. idk if calling the isp would work considering they know your only other option is paying the same price
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that really blows, i think the main reason ISP's are so limited is because they have contracts with whatever area they're covering. for example my friend that lives in the same town as me (5 minutes driving) doesn't have access to fios and optimum like i do, (same town same area code) but he can only get optimum. he's close to the town next to us and i guess optimum covers a large portion of the surrounding area but still no fios for him

verizon's coverage is pretty scattered through the states but i wouldn't be surprised if you see them all over the states soon. competition is definitely a factor with these guys they will call you very often asking why you canceled, also they will show up on your door step (not kidding)

that really blows, i think the main reason ISP's are so limited is because they have contracts with whatever area they're covering. for example my friend that lives in the same town as me (5 minutes driving) doesn't have access to fios and optimum like i do, (same town same area code) but he can only get optimum. he's close to the town next to us and i guess optimum covers a large portion of the surrounding area but still no fios for him

verizon's coverage is pretty scattered through the states but i wouldn't be surprised if you see them all over the states soon. competition is definitely a factor with these guys they will call you very often asking why you canceled, also they will show up on your door step (not kidding)
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Wow you guys and your communist internet with such low caps! FFS that is horrible!

Studies have shown it costs less than 1 cent per GB of wired data! So you guys with 20-50GB of data, are getting 20-50 cents worth of data and probably paying upwards of $50/mo. What a scam!

http://stopthecap.com/2012/03/08/netflix-cost-of-providing-1gb-of-data-is-less-than-one-cent-and-falling/

Wow you guys and your communist internet with such low caps! FFS that is horrible!

Studies have shown it costs less than 1 cent per GB of wired data! So you guys with 20-50GB of data, are getting 20-50 cents worth of data and probably paying upwards of $50/mo. What a scam!

http://stopthecap.com/2012/03/08/netflix-cost-of-providing-1gb-of-data-is-less-than-one-cent-and-falling/
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most first world countries with a low population density have expensive internet. as far as I know Australia has a similar situation. Combine that with a monopoly and you're fucked.

edit: I guess Alaska would fit into first world low pop density so thats prob why ur fucked.

most first world countries with a low population density have expensive internet. as far as I know Australia has a similar situation. Combine that with a monopoly and you're fucked.

edit: I guess Alaska would fit into first world low pop density so thats prob why ur fucked.
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