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#3811
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jnkiis your memory single or dual channel? single or dual rank? what timings? what brand and model even is it?
you can overclock and or reduce timings on your memory for free considering you have already got a z370 getting performance boost in tf2

Dual Channel, HyperX FURY Black 16GB 2666MHz CL16.

jnkido you play in 1440p or something, 8400 is more than capable to handle tf2 at 144fps even with generic oem 2666 ram at 1080p
is certain maps and or areas youre talking about are 32 man versus saxton hale? please be more specific, casual specifically never was and still isnt 240hz ready in this game

1080p 144hz, benchmarking gets me about 170fps with no other programs running but that was using mastercom's benchmark demo. Mostly noticing the issues when playing hl, namely in vigil this week its been pretty normal to get 100 fps, especially while trying to stream.

jnkibat_edit: being told to consider an i5 9600k to avoid buying a new mobo, thoughts?yes this is the cheapest conventional way of getting the most out of your motherboard, especially considering you can(and should) still be able to sell 8400 for a decent pocket change

in the grand scheme of things cost isn't too much of a swaying factor, so i'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest option and if it comes to it am happy/excited to do a complete amd overhaul if it'll do more overall.

jnkibat_edit: forgot to add, I have 500w power supply - something I am keeping in mind when selecting CPUcould you kindly look up the exact model, Setsul has a point, this could be a chinese knock off brand

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Yeah, apologies. It's 550W Corsair CS550M, Hybrid Modular, 80PLUS GOLD, 1x120mm, ATX v2.92.

jnkii dont think i misunderstood it, he intends to use the build for other games too

correct lol, im not just a tf2 player so don't wanna get something that will only help tf2, and if spending £550 now for a new amd cpu, mobo and fast ram means im not spending any money in the next five years (apart from on a gpu) then that is good with me. don't really want to get a 9600k if i'm changing it in 2 years anyway, and form some searching it isn't too different from my 8400.

[quote=jnki]
is your memory single or dual channel? single or dual rank? what timings? what brand and model even is it?
you can overclock and or reduce timings on your memory for free considering you have already got a z370 getting performance boost in tf2
[/quote]
Dual Channel, HyperX FURY Black 16GB 2666MHz CL16.

[quote=jnki]
do you play in 1440p or something, 8400 is more than capable to handle tf2 at 144fps even with generic oem 2666 ram at 1080p
is certain maps and or areas youre talking about are 32 man versus saxton hale? please be more specific, casual specifically never was and still isnt 240hz ready in this game
[/quote]
1080p 144hz, benchmarking gets me about 170fps with no other programs running but that was using mastercom's benchmark demo. Mostly noticing the issues when playing hl, namely in vigil this week its been pretty normal to get 100 fps, especially while trying to stream.

[quote=jnki]
[quote=bat_]edit: being told to consider an i5 9600k to avoid buying a new mobo, thoughts?[/quote]
yes this is the cheapest conventional way of getting the most out of your motherboard, especially considering you can(and should) still be able to sell 8400 for a decent pocket change
[/quote]
in the grand scheme of things cost isn't too much of a swaying factor, so i'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest option and if it comes to it am happy/excited to do a complete amd overhaul if it'll do more overall.

[quote=jnki]
[quote=bat_]edit: forgot to add, I have 500w power supply - something I am keeping in mind when selecting CPU[/quote]
could you kindly look up the exact model, Setsul has a point, this could be a chinese knock off brand[/quote]
[/quote]

Yeah, apologies. It's 550W Corsair CS550M, Hybrid Modular, 80PLUS GOLD, 1x120mm, ATX v2.92.

[quote=jnki]i dont think i misunderstood it, he intends to use the build for other games too[/quote]
correct lol, im not just a tf2 player so don't wanna get something that will only help tf2, and if spending £550 now for a new amd cpu, mobo and fast ram means im not spending any money in the next five years (apart from on a gpu) then that is good with me. don't really want to get a 9600k if i'm changing it in 2 years anyway, and form some searching it isn't too different from my 8400.
3812
#3812
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#3809

jnkiidle tdp? yes; under load? anywhere close to 5ghz its going to be just shy of 200w and frankly i think people arent buying unlocked intel cpus to run it at turbo boost clocks

now i know he isnt going to play cinebench or blender, but in newer games 4 cores are potentially going to see 80%+ cpu usage and if that is the case have fun cooling 200w with a mediocre cooler
jnki[...]difference between a 9600k(f) and the 4-core options(that do not even have hyperthreading mind you) is 20$ with almost identical power draw

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.
1. There is no such thing as "idle TDP". TDP is TDP and always under load and always a lie.
2. You're saying that it's going to use 200W anywhere near 5GHz?
3. You're saying a 9600K will consume almost the same power?

Yeah, I'm having some trouble believing that a 9350KF would need almost twice the power of a 8350K (which is literally the same chip) but a 9600K is magically 50% more efficient.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/i3-8350k/i3-8350k-power-prime.png

jnkiif achieving 6 core like performance with a 4 core part requires you a 5ghz overclock, pushing VRM on this not exactly incredible in the power delivery department motherboard, and an AIO/dark rock pro 4 level cooler, why not just get the incrementally more expensive 9600k/9700k and have it run on turbo boost clocks with like an i dont know, 212 evo

What are you even arguing for at this point? Buying a 212 Evo because it's overpriced and not worth buying in europe and overrated everywhere else? A 4 core at 5 GHz beating a 4.3 GHz 6 core in multithreaded workloads?

jnkiif his ultimate goal is just tf2 exclusive performance than feel free to disregard any of this shit, but from my point of view: he is still going to pay money for a stepdown in cpu cores, a need in better cpu cooling solution and a necessity to upgrade his cpu again down the line if even 6 cores arent going to cut it down the line let alone 4

If only I wrote "For TF2" before that. Oh wait, I did.

SetsulFor TF2 even a 9350KF would do.

#3810
Yeah, there'll be no shutdowns, don't worry about that.
At the 150W or so you'll most likely be pulling with a 5800X there shouldn't be much of a difference between single and dual tower.
8700K@4.8GHz should be similar power consumption, so for reference:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctua-nh-u12a/6.html
Dark Rock Pro 4, NH-D15 and NH-U12S are all in there. Also the NH-12A, single tower with two fans, just for fun.

Realistically 200W and beyond is where dual towers really matter.

Of course testing every core individually and manually setting offsets would be the best, while just letting PBO throw voltage and power at the problem is the lazy approach, but realistically the best use of your time should be PBO2 + Curve Optimization. Which is really just standard boost with higher power/voltage limit and some undervolting applied so it doesn't start needlessly choking on the power limit when multiple cores start boosting to high-ish frequencies. There's should be guides out there for this.

My rants sound a lot angrier then I really am, otherwise I wouldn't keep doing this.

Yeah, USB is just USB. Safe to go for B450 then.

#3809
[quote=jnki]
idle tdp? yes; under load? anywhere close to 5ghz its going to be just shy of 200w and frankly i think people arent buying unlocked intel cpus to run it at turbo boost clocks

now i know he isnt going to play cinebench or blender, but in newer games 4 cores are potentially going to see 80%+ cpu usage and if that is the case have fun cooling 200w with a mediocre cooler
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[quote=jnki][...]difference between a 9600k(f) and the 4-core options(that do not even have hyperthreading mind you) is 20$ with almost identical power draw
[/quote]
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.
1. There is no such thing as "idle TDP". TDP is TDP and always under load and always a lie.
2. You're saying that it's going to use 200W anywhere near 5GHz?
3. You're saying a 9600K will consume almost the same power?

Yeah, I'm having some trouble believing that a 9350KF would need almost twice the power of a 8350K (which is literally the same chip) but a 9600K is magically 50% more efficient.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/i3-8350k/i3-8350k-power-prime.png
[quote=jnki]
if achieving 6 core like performance with a 4 core part requires you a 5ghz overclock, pushing VRM on this not exactly incredible in the power delivery department motherboard, and an AIO/dark rock pro 4 level cooler, why not just get the incrementally more expensive 9600k/9700k and have it run on turbo boost clocks with like an i dont know, 212 evo
[/quote]
What are you even arguing for at this point? Buying a 212 Evo because it's overpriced and not worth buying in europe and overrated everywhere else? A 4 core at 5 GHz beating a 4.3 GHz 6 core in multithreaded workloads?
[quote=jnki]
if his ultimate goal is just tf2 exclusive performance than feel free to disregard any of this shit, but from my point of view: he is still going to pay money for a stepdown in cpu cores, a need in better cpu cooling solution and a necessity to upgrade his cpu again down the line if even 6 cores arent going to cut it down the line let alone 4[/quote]
If only I wrote "For TF2" before that. Oh wait, I did.
[quote=Setsul]For TF2 even a 9350KF would do.[/quote]

#3810
Yeah, there'll be no shutdowns, don't worry about that.
At the 150W or so you'll most likely be pulling with a 5800X there shouldn't be much of a difference between single and dual tower.
8700K@4.8GHz should be similar power consumption, so for reference:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctua-nh-u12a/6.html
Dark Rock Pro 4, NH-D15 and NH-U12S are all in there. Also the NH-12A, single tower with two fans, just for fun.

Realistically 200W and beyond is where dual towers really matter.

Of course testing every core individually and manually setting offsets would be the best, while just letting PBO throw voltage and power at the problem is the lazy approach, but realistically the best use of your time should be PBO2 + Curve Optimization. Which is really just standard boost with higher power/voltage limit and some undervolting applied so it doesn't start needlessly choking on the power limit when multiple cores start boosting to high-ish frequencies. There's should be guides out there for this.

My rants sound a lot angrier then I really am, otherwise I wouldn't keep doing this.

Yeah, USB is just USB. Safe to go for B450 then.
3813
#3813
7 Frags +

you will know tf2 is dead whenever setsul stops posting in this thread

you will know tf2 is dead whenever setsul stops posting in this thread
3814
#3814
5 Frags +

Tbf I haven't played it in a while. On the other hand I've been saying TF2 is dead for 10 years and it didn't stop me back then.

Tbf I haven't played it in a while. On the other hand I've been saying TF2 is dead for 10 years and it didn't stop me back then.
3815
#3815
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i have a graphics card. i just want to buy a prebuilt then stick the 1050 ti in there and go, since all i care about is running tf2, (i do all of my school work on my laptop). any recommendations/alternatives below $150-$180?

i have a graphics card. i just want to buy a prebuilt then stick the 1050 ti in there and go, since all i care about is running tf2, (i do all of my school work on my laptop). any recommendations/alternatives below $150-$180?
3816
#3816
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Why do you have a GPU? Do you not have a pc attached to that, just the GPU?
Getting the shittiest and cheapest pre-built you can find with a shitty CPU and putting in a good GPU seems like the worst way to build a pc for TF2, which doesn't care about the GPU, only the CPU.

Why do you have a GPU? Do you not have a pc attached to that, just the GPU?
Getting the shittiest and cheapest pre-built you can find with a shitty CPU and putting in a good GPU seems like the worst way to build a pc for TF2, which doesn't care about the GPU, only the CPU.
3817
#3817
0 Frags +

Hello

My younger brother is building a PC to take to university and has asked for my help. His budget is around £1600 and he wants to be able to play fairly modern games at 1080p 100+ fps. He also plans to do some light CAD work and wants the PC to be VR capable. He doesn't plan on overclocking.

This is the list he's made: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/simpoc02/saved/6B4DZL

I haven't built a computer since around 2016 so I'm massively out of the loop regarding price, performance, etc., so I thought I'd come here to get some advice/opinions on the list, thanks!

Hello

My younger brother is building a PC to take to university and has asked for my help. His budget is around £1600 and he wants to be able to play fairly modern games at 1080p 100+ fps. He also plans to do some light CAD work and wants the PC to be VR capable. He doesn't plan on overclocking.

This is the list he's made: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/simpoc02/saved/6B4DZL

I haven't built a computer since around 2016 so I'm massively out of the loop regarding price, performance, etc., so I thought I'd come here to get some advice/opinions on the list, thanks!
3818
#3818
3 Frags +

Seems ok.
Does he really need 8 cores?
Good luck finding a 3060 Ti.
Could go for a lower wattage, higher quality PSU.

Seems ok.
Does he really need 8 cores?
Good luck finding a 3060 Ti.
Could go for a lower wattage, higher quality PSU.
3819
#3819
0 Frags +
SetsulSeems ok.
Does he really need 8 cores?
Good luck finding a 3060 Ti.
Could go for a lower wattage, higher quality PSU.

isnt cad fairly processor dependent? perhaps the 8 cores will speed up certain processes in that

[quote=Setsul]Seems ok.
Does he really need 8 cores?
Good luck finding a 3060 Ti.
Could go for a lower wattage, higher quality PSU.[/quote]


isnt cad fairly processor dependent? perhaps the 8 cores will speed up certain processes in that
3820
#3820
0 Frags +

Yeah, but it has to be multithreaded for that to matter. So the question is what does "light CAD" mean? And are 8 cores/16 threads really necessary/useful/at a reasonable price-performance point?

Yeah, but it has to be multithreaded for that to matter. So the question is what does "light CAD" mean? And are 8 cores/16 threads really necessary/useful/at a reasonable price-performance point?
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#3821
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3822
#3822
9 Frags +
pirateVideo Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

I know it's hard to get recent graphic card, but man, you can't go with a GTX 1660 for a config at 2477$

[quote=pirate]
[b]Video Card:[/b] Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card
[/quote]
I know it's hard to get recent graphic card, but man, you can't go with a GTX 1660 for a config at 2477$
3823
#3823
5 Frags +

Just because you've got the money, doesn't mean you have to spend it. And you don't even have it yet and parts and prices will change by the time you're done with your summer job.

So there are some questions. Do you really need a 5800X? Though I guess at this budget there's nothing wrong with it. Clockrate advantage is marginal but you might as well.
What is the WD Black for? If you're buying an HDD for cheap storage you're doing it wrong, there's much cheaper, if you're buying an HDD for fast storage you're doing it very wrong, any SSD will be much faster.
And you really don't need a 750W PSU, especially since a 1660S in that build is just a giant WHY?

Just because you've got the money, doesn't mean you have to spend it. And you don't even have it yet and parts and prices will change by the time you're done with your summer job.

So there are some questions. Do you really need a 5800X? Though I guess at this budget there's nothing wrong with it. Clockrate advantage is marginal but you might as well.
What is the WD Black for? If you're buying an HDD for cheap storage you're doing it wrong, there's much cheaper, if you're buying an HDD for fast storage you're doing it very wrong, any SSD will be much faster.
And you really don't need a 750W PSU, especially since a 1660S in that build is just a giant WHY?
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#3824
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3825
#3825
3 Frags +

2070S isn't exactly new and MSRP is 499$. I hope you're not planning on buying one for 1500$. Even the most overpriced used 2070S should be a fraction of that.

2 TB is quite a bit less than 4 TB. How much do you really need? You can also get 4TB for around 70$, let alone 3TB, so I'm not really seeing the point of paying 55-60$ for a 2TB.

Grade as in efficiency rating? Completely different thing. There'd be nothing wrong with getting an RMx 550W if 550W is all you need (and with that CPU it is for anything short of a 300W GPU) if Corsair didn't insist on ridiculous prices for the lower end models on top of selling different PSUs under the same name to keep everyone guessing if what they'll get is actually as good as the reviews suggest.

2070S isn't exactly new and MSRP is 499$. I hope you're not planning on buying one for 1500$. Even the most overpriced used 2070S should be a fraction of that.

2 TB is quite a bit less than 4 TB. How much do you really need? You can also get 4TB for around 70$, let alone 3TB, so I'm not really seeing the point of paying 55-60$ for a 2TB.

Grade as in efficiency rating? Completely different thing. There'd be nothing wrong with getting an RMx 550W if 550W is all you need (and with that CPU it is for anything short of a 300W GPU) if Corsair didn't insist on ridiculous prices for the lower end models on top of selling different PSUs under the same name to keep everyone guessing if what they'll get is actually as good as the reviews suggest.
3826
#3826
0 Frags +

Hey,
Recently I got a little extra 450-500 USD and planning on completing the gaming-oriented setup (using 144 hz monitor). Right now I have the gtx 1080, ssd, a 750W PSU and need advice on which CPU (do not care about oc), Mobo (doesn't matter ATX or mATX) and RAM should I get, within the specified budget, if possible. I am considering buying something like ASROCK B560 Steel Legend + i5-10400F and 16 gb CRUCIAL Ballistix (BL8G32C16U4B). Would it be a good or terrible choice? What are the other options here?
Thanks in advance for the help!

Hey,
Recently I got a little extra 450-500 USD and planning on completing the gaming-oriented setup (using 144 hz monitor). Right now I have the gtx 1080, ssd, a 750W PSU and need advice on which CPU (do not care about oc), Mobo (doesn't matter ATX or mATX) and RAM should I get, within the specified budget, if possible. I am considering buying something like ASROCK B560 Steel Legend + i5-10400F and 16 gb CRUCIAL Ballistix (BL8G32C16U4B). Would it be a good or terrible choice? What are the other options here?
Thanks in advance for the help!
3827
#3827
3 Frags +

11400F would be slightly faster and get you PCIe 4.0, not sure if it's worth the extra money though. B560 for the memory overclocking makes sense.

Unless you want to go hunting for a used 3600X(T) AMD doesn't really have anything in that price range with the same single core / game performance.

11400F would be slightly faster and get you PCIe 4.0, not sure if it's worth the extra money though. B560 for the memory overclocking makes sense.

Unless you want to go hunting for a used 3600X(T) AMD doesn't really have anything in that price range with the same single core / game performance.
3828
#3828
0 Frags +

Well, I guess I'll stick with Intel then
ty, papa Setsul <3

Well, I guess I'll stick with Intel then
ty, papa Setsul <3
3829
#3829
0 Frags +

Hey,
about 3 years ago I bought a complete PC (HP OMEN 880 Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz), I'm not too good with computers so some of what I'm saying might be wrong.
My processor is struggling at the moment with running tf2 and other apps at the same time (firefox and spotify), I often need to end processes to play tf2 without lagging hard, I've added more RAM to my PC so thats not a problem.
I've looked at upgrading to a 10th gen i5 processor but I think i need to upgrade my motherboard as well because of the different socket types on my motherboard and the newer i5. Also I don't know if a newer motherboard would fit into my chassis?
I have a budget of £400-£500
If you could help me find a processor that can multitask and run a bit faster, and a motherboard that could hold it that would be great, thanks.

Hey,
about 3 years ago I bought a complete PC (HP OMEN 880 Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz), I'm not too good with computers so some of what I'm saying might be wrong.
My processor is struggling at the moment with running tf2 and other apps at the same time (firefox and spotify), I often need to end processes to play tf2 without lagging hard, I've added more RAM to my PC so thats not a problem.
I've looked at upgrading to a 10th gen i5 processor but I think i need to upgrade my motherboard as well because of the different socket types on my motherboard and the newer i5. Also I don't know if a newer motherboard would fit into my chassis?
I have a budget of £400-£500
If you could help me find a processor that can multitask and run a bit faster, and a motherboard that could hold it that would be great, thanks.
3830
#3830
0 Frags +

Seems to be a standard µATX board so any of those should fit in the chassis.

"At the moment" implies that this wasn't the case from the get-go. I refuse to believe that firefox, spotify or TF2 became that much harder to run in the last 3 years.
So either you bought a pc that was lagging right from the start, then I have to really question your decision making, or you just want to go back to how things were, not an actual upgrade.
Check for overheating and reinstall windows before doing anything stupid.

You've already got a 6 core, if you want something that can "multitask and run a bit faster" you'd be looking at an 8 core for 300 bucks or more and I really, really don't see why you should need that just to run TF2, firefox, and spotify "without lagging hard". I could do that with a 10 year old quad core. The only things stopping me are that my quad core isn't quite that old and that I'm not using spotify. But I've got a lot of other shit running instead.

Seems to be a standard µATX board so any of those should fit in the chassis.

"At the moment" implies that this wasn't the case from the get-go. I refuse to believe that firefox, spotify or TF2 became that much harder to run in the last 3 years.
So either you bought a pc that was lagging right from the start, then I have to really question your decision making, or you just want to go back to how things were, not an actual upgrade.
Check for overheating and reinstall windows before doing anything stupid.

You've already got a 6 core, if you want something that can "multitask and run a bit faster" you'd be looking at an 8 core for 300 bucks or more and I really, really don't see why you should need that just to run TF2, firefox, and spotify "without lagging hard". I could do that with a 10 year old quad core. The only things stopping me are that my quad core isn't quite that old and that I'm not using spotify. But I've got a lot of other shit running instead.
3831
#3831
0 Frags +

The PC was brand new when i bought it.
I've made a mistake though, the model I have has an i5-7400 in it which is an older model and has 4 cores, does that make a difference?
Sorry for the inconvenience, again, I'm super dumb when it comes to this.

The PC was brand new when i bought it.
I've made a mistake though, the model I have has an i5-7400 in it which is an older model and has 4 cores, does that make a difference?
Sorry for the inconvenience, again, I'm super dumb when it comes to this.
3832
#3832
4 Frags +

Doesn't really answer my question, did it always suck or is this a recent problem?

Doesn't really answer my question, did it always suck or is this a recent problem?
3833
#3833
0 Frags +

this is a recent problem

this is a recent problem
3834
#3834
5 Frags +

Then check for overheating and do a clean install of windows. Yes, it's going to take a while, but it's a whole lot cheaper than buying a new CPU and mobo because of windows doing windows things and then ending up reinstalling windows anyway because it got confused by a new mobo.

Then check for overheating and do a clean install of windows. Yes, it's going to take a while, but it's a whole lot cheaper than buying a new CPU and mobo because of windows doing windows things and then ending up reinstalling windows anyway because it got confused by a new mobo.
3835
#3835
0 Frags +

ok thanks man

ok thanks man
3836
#3836
4 Frags +

Hello everybody!
The motherboard from my old PC died so I thought that I now might be a good time to do some upgrading. I’m looking for a PC that will be able to run TF2 at a minimum of 144 fps with a 1920x1080 resolution while at the same being able to do some other stuff (browsing, videocalls and so on) on my other 1080p monitor. In the future when the GPU prices drop, I plan to also would also like to be able to run other games (don’t know which ones though) at a high framerate after buying a new GPU. But, for the time being I plan to keep my old Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 4 GB video card.
From what I’ve read it seems reasonable to also keep my 850 W power supply from around 2013.

The new parts I’m considering are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
MOBO: MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk ATX AM4
SSD: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME

What are your thoughts on a build like this? Any tips on how to improve it? Would spending a bit more on a CPU have a substantial difference on tf2 performance? I’m not very interested in overclocking or other stuff like that because I doubt that I have the skills or balls necessary to do so.

Hello everybody!
The motherboard from my old PC died so I thought that I now might be a good time to do some upgrading. I’m looking for a PC that will be able to run TF2 at a minimum of 144 fps with a 1920x1080 resolution while at the same being able to do some other stuff (browsing, videocalls and so on) on my other 1080p monitor. In the future when the GPU prices drop, I plan to also would also like to be able to run other games (don’t know which ones though) at a high framerate after buying a new GPU. But, for the time being I plan to keep my old Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 4 GB video card.
From what I’ve read it seems reasonable to also keep my 850 W power supply from around 2013.

The new parts I’m considering are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
MOBO: MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk ATX AM4
SSD: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME

What are your thoughts on a build like this? Any tips on how to improve it? Would spending a bit more on a CPU have a substantial difference on tf2 performance? I’m not very interested in overclocking or other stuff like that because I doubt that I have the skills or balls necessary to do so.
3837
#3837
4 Frags +

You'll probably want RAM that isn't an SSD.
The rest seems fine.
850W is more than enough.

No, I don't see how you'd get any substantial difference in TF2 performance. Extra cores wouldn't do anything and you don't want to overclock so it comes down to stock clockrate. Paying 50% more for a 5800X that's 0.1 GHz faster, a bit over 2%, just isn't worth it. I've got no idea how an 11600K(F) compares to a 5600X in TF2 specifically, because it's faster for some things and slower for others. On average it's slightly slower in games, so I wouldn't gamble on that unless someone confirms it's faster or you want to save money (not sure how it'd work out with the mobo, though there's also the 11600) or have another reason.

You'll probably want RAM that isn't an SSD.
The rest seems fine.
850W is more than enough.

No, I don't see how you'd get any substantial difference in TF2 performance. Extra cores wouldn't do anything and you don't want to overclock so it comes down to stock clockrate. Paying 50% more for a 5800X that's 0.1 GHz faster, a bit over 2%, just isn't worth it. I've got no idea how an 11600K(F) compares to a 5600X in TF2 specifically, because it's faster for some things and slower for others. On average it's slightly slower in games, so I wouldn't gamble on that unless someone confirms it's faster or you want to save money (not sure how it'd work out with the mobo, though there's also the 11600) or have another reason.
3838
#3838
4 Frags +

Danke Setsul.

I meant to write Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 for RAM.

Now I feel confident enough to start ordering the part :)

Danke Setsul.

I meant to write Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 for RAM.

Now I feel confident enough to start ordering the part :)
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#3839
4 Frags +

Yes, that should work.
If you want to make extra sure, there's a compatibility list here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK#support-mem-21
Compatibility -> Memory By RX-5xxx
You'll need the exact part number.

Yes, that should work.
If you want to make extra sure, there's a compatibility list here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK#support-mem-21
Compatibility -> Memory By RX-5xxx
You'll need the exact part number.
3840
#3840
2 Frags +

Awesome, I will certainly check that out

Awesome, I will certainly check that out
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