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3991
#3991
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jnkiMrOI'll buy a displayport cable then.https://i.imgur.com/zAD5HpJ.png

Thanks for showing me.
I just ordered it, once again thanks for your help.

[quote=jnki][quote=MrO]I'll buy a displayport cable then.[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zAD5HpJ.png[/img][/quote]

Thanks for showing me.
I just ordered it, once again thanks for your help.
3992
#3992
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Hello,

I was considering this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDvykJ

I was torn between two graphics cards: RX 6750 XT and the RTX 4060TI as they are relatively similar price points, and I was wondering which one would be better value wise and for long term performance? Also I know that AMD generally has a reputation for having more problems with graphics cards compared to NVIDIA, so I was wondering if this was the case, and if I should opt for the 4060TI instead despite it being a little worse performance wise.

I use a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor.

Thank you

Hello,

I was considering this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDvykJ

I was torn between two graphics cards: RX 6750 XT and the RTX 4060TI as they are relatively similar price points, and I was wondering which one would be better value wise and for long term performance? Also I know that AMD generally has a reputation for having more problems with graphics cards compared to NVIDIA, so I was wondering if this was the case, and if I should opt for the 4060TI instead despite it being a little worse performance wise.

I use a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor.

Thank you
3993
#3993
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sphillizHello,

I was considering this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDvykJ

I was torn between two graphics cards: RX 6750 XT and the RTX 4060TI as they are relatively similar price points, and I was wondering which one would be better value wise and for long term performance? Also I know that AMD generally has a reputation for having more problems with graphics cards compared to NVIDIA, so I was wondering if this was the case, and if I should opt for the 4060TI instead despite it being a little worse performance wise.

I use a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor.

Thank you

I guess everything is way more expensive out there. I built a i5-13600k 4070ti build for just over $1600 (Mini ITX) Which is expensive to begin with. Save some money on your mobo and ram and put that money towards a better graphics card.

[quote=sphilliz]Hello,

I was considering this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDvykJ

I was torn between two graphics cards: RX 6750 XT and the RTX 4060TI as they are relatively similar price points, and I was wondering which one would be better value wise and for long term performance? Also I know that AMD generally has a reputation for having more problems with graphics cards compared to NVIDIA, so I was wondering if this was the case, and if I should opt for the 4060TI instead despite it being a little worse performance wise.

I use a 1080p 144hz IPS monitor.

Thank you[/quote]
I guess everything is way more expensive out there. I built a i5-13600k 4070ti build for just over $1600 (Mini ITX) Which is expensive to begin with. Save some money on your mobo and ram and put that money towards a better graphics card.
3994
#3994
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#3992
AMD.
Driver problems 10 years ago really shouldn't concern you, and unlike nVidia, they don't pull shit like only unlocking new driver features on the newest cards. Remember when nVidia made a big production out of calling the 20 series RTX instead of GTX, to justify why only the newest cards would be allowed to use raytracing and everyone without one should just cough up more money to buy one? And once people got mad enough the 10 and 16 series miraculously got a driver update that allowed them to use it too, despite nVidia vehemently claiming that only the 20 series had the special sauce hardware required for it for months.
And then there's the whole GameWorks / HairWorks bullshit where nVidia wasn't content with not giving driver optimizations to older cards, but actively designed new features with tesselation to have a disproportionate performance impact on their older cards (and AMD's by virtue of hiding the source code from them, preventing any attempt at optimization despite the AMD cards at the time having a lot more tesselation hardware than nVidia's) and then cranked up the settings that needed tesselation to the max, not because it would look much better, but because the last generation of cards losing 50-75% of their fps while the new ones only lost 30% made the new ones look like the best thing since sliced bread.

Anyway, rant over, nVidia isn't just content with letting their older cards age like milk, sometimes they piss in the milk too.
In a weird twist, AMD's usually get better for the first one or two years because they don't have the same manpower to throw at driver optimizations.
So if you're in it for the long haul, the AMD card got slightly better performance than the nVidia, which should make up for less optimized drivers on a game's release, and is cheaper, then I see no reason not to get it.

PSU might be a bit overkill, but isn't worth cheaping out on either, SSD is also probably faster than you need, but nothing wrong with the build.

#3993
It's Australia. Apart from one terrible A620 mobo that is somehow 132 AUD, you get mobos that are still A620 trash for 170-190, and then you're looking at 200+.
Meanwhile the GPU is already cheaper than most 6700 XT and 4060 (non-Ti), so 60 AUD more get him fuck all.
Sure, he could get a cheaper mobo, ram, SSD, case, and PSU, sacrifice it all to get a slightly faster GPU, but I'd bet all of those parts are going to stick around longer than the GPU. So if he thinks 6750 XT / 4060 Ti performance is good enough, then I'm going to just trust him on that and answer the question he asked, instead of questioning the premise.

#3992
AMD.
Driver problems 10 years ago really shouldn't concern you, and unlike nVidia, they don't pull shit like only unlocking new driver features on the newest cards. Remember when nVidia made a big production out of calling the 20 series RTX instead of GTX, to justify why only the newest cards would be allowed to use raytracing and everyone without one should just cough up more money to buy one? And once people got mad enough the 10 and 16 series miraculously got a driver update that allowed them to use it too, despite nVidia vehemently claiming that only the 20 series had the special sauce hardware required for it for months.
And then there's the whole GameWorks / HairWorks bullshit where nVidia wasn't content with not giving driver optimizations to older cards, but actively designed new features with tesselation to have a disproportionate performance impact on their older cards (and AMD's by virtue of hiding the source code from them, preventing any attempt at optimization despite the AMD cards at the time having a lot more tesselation hardware than nVidia's) and then cranked up the settings that needed tesselation to the max, not because it would look much better, but because the last generation of cards losing 50-75% of their fps while the new ones only lost 30% made the new ones look like the best thing since sliced bread.

Anyway, rant over, nVidia isn't just content with letting their older cards age like milk, sometimes they piss in the milk too.
In a weird twist, AMD's usually get better for the first one or two years because they don't have the same manpower to throw at driver optimizations.
So if you're in it for the long haul, the AMD card got slightly better performance than the nVidia, which should make up for less optimized drivers on a game's release, and is cheaper, then I see no reason not to get it.

PSU might be a bit overkill, but isn't worth cheaping out on either, SSD is also probably faster than you need, but nothing wrong with the build.

#3993
It's Australia. Apart from one terrible A620 mobo that is somehow 132 AUD, you get mobos that are still A620 trash for 170-190, and then you're looking at 200+.
Meanwhile the GPU is already cheaper than most 6700 XT and 4060 (non-Ti), so 60 AUD more get him fuck all.
Sure, he could get a cheaper mobo, ram, SSD, case, and PSU, sacrifice it all to get a slightly faster GPU, but I'd bet all of those parts are going to stick around longer than the GPU. So if he thinks 6750 XT / 4060 Ti performance is good enough, then I'm going to just trust him on that and answer the question he asked, instead of questioning the premise.
3995
#3995
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Setsul#3992
AMD.
Driver problems 10 years ago really shouldn't concern you, and unlike nVidia, they don't pull shit like only unlocking new driver features on the newest cards. Remember when nVidia made a big production out of calling the 20 series RTX instead of GTX, to justify why only the newest cards would be allowed to use raytracing and everyone without one should just cough up more money to buy one? And once people got mad enough the 10 and 16 series miraculously got a driver update that allowed them to use it too, despite nVidia vehemently claiming that only the 20 series had the special sauce hardware required for it for months.
And then there's the whole GameWorks / HairWorks bullshit where nVidia wasn't content with not giving driver optimizations to older cards, but actively designed new features with tesselation to have a disproportionate performance impact on their older cards (and AMD's by virtue of hiding the source code from them, preventing any attempt at optimization despite the AMD cards at the time having a lot more tesselation hardware than nVidia's) and then cranked up the settings that needed tesselation to the max, not because it would look much better, but because the last generation of cards losing 50-75% of their fps while the new ones only lost 30% made the new ones look like the best thing since sliced bread.

Anyway, rant over, nVidia isn't just content with letting their older cards age like milk, sometimes they piss in the milk too.
In a weird twist, AMD's usually get better for the first one or two years because they don't have the same manpower to throw at driver optimizations.
So if you're in it for the long haul, the AMD card got slightly better performance than the nVidia, which should make up for less optimized drivers on a game's release, and is cheaper, then I see no reason not to get it.

PSU might be a bit overkill, but isn't worth cheaping out on either, SSD is also probably faster than you need, but nothing wrong with the build.

#3993
It's Australia. Apart from one terrible A620 mobo that is somehow 132 AUD, you get mobos that are still A620 trash for 170-190, and then you're looking at 200+.
Meanwhile the GPU is already cheaper than most 6700 XT and 4060 (non-Ti), so 60 AUD more get him fuck all.
Sure, he could get a cheaper mobo, ram, SSD, case, and PSU, sacrifice it all to get a slightly faster GPU, but I'd bet all of those parts are going to stick around longer than the GPU. So if he thinks 6750 XT / 4060 Ti performance is good enough, then I'm going to just trust him on that and answer the question he asked, instead of questioning the premise.

Thank you, noted!

[quote=Setsul]#3992
AMD.
Driver problems 10 years ago really shouldn't concern you, and unlike nVidia, they don't pull shit like only unlocking new driver features on the newest cards. Remember when nVidia made a big production out of calling the 20 series RTX instead of GTX, to justify why only the newest cards would be allowed to use raytracing and everyone without one should just cough up more money to buy one? And once people got mad enough the 10 and 16 series miraculously got a driver update that allowed them to use it too, despite nVidia vehemently claiming that only the 20 series had the special sauce hardware required for it for months.
And then there's the whole GameWorks / HairWorks bullshit where nVidia wasn't content with not giving driver optimizations to older cards, but actively designed new features with tesselation to have a disproportionate performance impact on their older cards (and AMD's by virtue of hiding the source code from them, preventing any attempt at optimization despite the AMD cards at the time having a lot more tesselation hardware than nVidia's) and then cranked up the settings that needed tesselation to the max, not because it would look much better, but because the last generation of cards losing 50-75% of their fps while the new ones only lost 30% made the new ones look like the best thing since sliced bread.

Anyway, rant over, nVidia isn't just content with letting their older cards age like milk, sometimes they piss in the milk too.
In a weird twist, AMD's usually get better for the first one or two years because they don't have the same manpower to throw at driver optimizations.
So if you're in it for the long haul, the AMD card got slightly better performance than the nVidia, which should make up for less optimized drivers on a game's release, and is cheaper, then I see no reason not to get it.

PSU might be a bit overkill, but isn't worth cheaping out on either, SSD is also probably faster than you need, but nothing wrong with the build.

#3993
It's Australia. Apart from one terrible A620 mobo that is somehow 132 AUD, you get mobos that are still A620 trash for 170-190, and then you're looking at 200+.
Meanwhile the GPU is already cheaper than most 6700 XT and 4060 (non-Ti), so 60 AUD more get him fuck all.
Sure, he could get a cheaper mobo, ram, SSD, case, and PSU, sacrifice it all to get a slightly faster GPU, but I'd bet all of those parts are going to stick around longer than the GPU. So if he thinks 6750 XT / 4060 Ti performance is good enough, then I'm going to just trust him on that and answer the question he asked, instead of questioning the premise.[/quote]

Thank you, noted!
3996
#3996
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Hey,
after my last PC build here from ~2016 was successfull, i thought it might be time for an upgrade, as i only upgraded my GPU in the meantime.

Currently i'm running a 1660TI and an i5 6600k.
Specifically also want to replace my case and PSU because they're more than 10 years old and loud and the case is huge (a CM Storm trooper).

I'm not looking for a gaming beast, but rather for a silent PC to do some light gaming on (Rocket League, TF2, and puzzle games like Firmament or Outer Wilds and i don't necessarily need super high graphics settings.
I also work as a computer scientist so i like to have a somewhat decent CPU and enough RAM to get through the day, but i don't need a workstation at home.
I also want to connect the PC to my 3 1080p monitors + my TV, which is 4K, but i am fine just gaming in 1080p on it.

Parts i have been looking at so far are:

Total: 898€ + shipping once from mindfactory

I'll be taking 2 SSDs and 1 HDD from my current build, all SATA, but i'd like to have the option to upgrade to NVMe.
I don't care about wifi or sound on the mobo (although wifi is a nice bonus if i ever bring the PC somewhere), but i need an ethernet port.

Also the only thing i feel unsure about is whether upgrading the GPU to a 7800 XT might make sense since i have a 4K TV (that also does 120Hz) so i can run games in better detail, but i game so little...

Budget is hard to say, i'd say 1500 is a hard upper bound and if i can fulfil my needs with the ~1000€ of my current suggestions then i'd be happy, but i can upgrade parts if needed.

Also might want to add that i'm using linux. While i have not had driver problems with my 1660 TI, from what i've heard AMD driver support is better (and with the recent retirement of the nvidia driver dev even more so)

edit: swapped the ryzen 5 7600X with the normal 7600 for way lower TDP, which makes me even less sure about the right CPU cooler choice.

Hey,
after my last PC build here from ~2016 was successfull, i thought it might be time for an upgrade, as i only upgraded my GPU in the meantime.

Currently i'm running a 1660TI and an i5 6600k.
Specifically also want to replace my case and PSU because they're more than 10 years old and loud and the case is huge (a CM Storm trooper).

I'm not looking for a gaming beast, but rather for a silent PC to do some light gaming on (Rocket League, TF2, and puzzle games like [url=https://store.steampowered.com/app/754890/Firmament/]Firmament[/url] or [url=https://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/]Outer Wilds[/url] and i don't necessarily need super high graphics settings.
I also work as a computer scientist so i like to have a somewhat decent CPU and enough RAM to get through the day, but i don't need a workstation at home.
I also want to connect the PC to my 3 1080p monitors + my TV, which is 4K, but i am fine just gaming in 1080p on it.

Parts i have been looking at so far are:

[list]
[*] Case: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/be-quiet--Pure-Base-600-gedaemmt-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz_1137067.html]be quiet! Pure Base 600[/url] 78€
[*] Mobo: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-Pro-A620M-E-AMD-B620-So-AM5-Dual-Channel-DDR5--micro-ATX-Retail_1494735.html]MSI Pro A620M-E[/url] 90€ (actually no idea what to choose, i don't plan on OCing, so i just picked a compatible one that seemed reasonably inexpensive)
[*] CPU: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-5-7600-6x-3-80GHz-So-AM5-BOX_1476281.html]Ryzen 5 7600[/url] 220€
[*] Cooler: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/be-quiet--Pure-Rock-2-Black-Tower-Kuehler_1359907.html]be quiet! Pure Rock 2[/url] 38€ (With 150W of cooling power this is way overspececd for the 65W TDP of the CPU, but since i want it to be a quiet build maybe that's worth it?)
[*] GPU: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-7600-Speedster-QICK308-Gaming-Aktiv-PCIe-4-0-x16--x8-_1493166.html]XFX Radeon RX 7600[/url] 285€
[*] PSU: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/650-Watt-be-quiet--Pure-Power-12-M-Modular-80--Gold_1480492.html]650W be quiet! Pure Power[/url] 80€ (might make sense to go 750W instead to prepare for a future GPU upgrade?)
[*] RAM: [url=https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/32GB--2x-16GB--G-Skill-Flare-EXPO-X5-schwarz-DDR5-6000-DIMM-CL32-38-38-_1466607.html]32GB (2x 16GB) G.Skill Flare EXPO X5 schwarz DDR5-6000 DIMM CL32-38-38-96 Dual Kit[/url] 105€ (i want 32 GB for work mostly, and this was among the least expensive, don't know about the importance of memory timings though)
[/list]
[b]Total: 898€[/b] + shipping once from mindfactory

I'll be taking 2 SSDs and 1 HDD from my current build, all SATA, but i'd like to have the option to upgrade to NVMe.
I don't care about wifi or sound on the mobo (although wifi is a nice bonus if i ever bring the PC somewhere), but i need an ethernet port.

Also the only thing i feel unsure about is whether upgrading the GPU to a 7800 XT might make sense since i have a 4K TV (that also does 120Hz) so i can run games in better detail, but i game so little...

Budget is hard to say, i'd say 1500 is a hard upper bound and if i can fulfil my needs with the ~1000€ of my current suggestions then i'd be happy, but i can upgrade parts if needed.

Also might want to add that i'm using linux. While i have not had driver problems with my 1660 TI, from what i've heard AMD driver support is better (and with the recent retirement of the nvidia driver dev even more so)

[i]edit: swapped the ryzen 5 7600X with the normal 7600 for way lower TDP, which makes me even less sure about the right CPU cooler choice.[/i]
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