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Pazer/Uncle Dane Valve visit information
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#1
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PazerValve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/

[quote=Pazer]Valve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/
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#2
82 Frags +

when u work for valve and still get votekicked from pubs lmao

when u work for valve and still get votekicked from pubs lmao
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#3
9 Frags +
AccordPazerValve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/

dont tease me like that

[quote=Accord][quote=Pazer]Valve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/[/quote]

dont tease me like that
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#4
5 Frags +

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216
also this being his only source of info lmao

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216
also this being his only source of info lmao
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#5
9 Frags +
AccordPazerValve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/

>INB4 SNIPER NERF :((

[quote=Accord][quote=Pazer]Valve didn't directly give us info on when the update would be out. They just listened to feedback from us for the most part.
So not exactly a joke, just a tease for something that could be totally wrong. I (incorrectly) assumed that "joke" was the correct way to describe something like that. See https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/904040139369865216. Sorry.
Other potentially interesting things:

TF team is the same size it was in January

The move to the new building is being delayed due to issues with permits or something. New building will be roughly 2x the square feet.

Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update.

Valve knows sniper can be a huge pain in the hands of a good player. They have 2 good snipers on their team who will sometimes get kicked from pubs for cheating.[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6xm8yj/dont_take_tf2_youtubers_words_as_gospel_even_if/dmh52us/[/quote]
>INB4 SNIPER NERF :((
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#6
11 Frags +

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/903813734316965889

NINE SIX

https://twitter.com/danekevincook/status/903813734316965889

NINE SIX
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#7
4 Frags +

i have a feeling either uncle dane is meming, or uncle dane is actually being serious. i dont think he's being serious tho

i have a feeling either uncle dane is meming, or uncle dane is actually being serious. i dont think he's being serious tho
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#8
16 Frags +

for those who don't know pazer worked on CastingEssentials, has had his code submissions put into the game in the past and I believe still has some stuff from CE pending, it's good to see valve inviting him

for those who don't know pazer worked on CastingEssentials, has had his code submissions put into the game in the past and I believe still has some stuff from CE pending, it's good to see valve inviting him
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#9
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HYYPE NINE SIX GUYS SEPTEMBER SIXTH IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANY MOMENT NOW HYYYYYPE SO EXCITED THAT ITS FINALLY COMING THE NEW PYRO UPDATE JUNGLE UPDATE MORE HATS AND ITS HAPPENING TOOODAY HAVE YOU EVER BEEN MORE HYPED ITS PROBABLY GONNA BE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES ARE YOU READY INVESTIGATE 9/6 PYRO IS GONNA BE FIXED ITS GONNA BE SO COOL THE LONG AWAITED UPDATE

HYYPE NINE SIX GUYS SEPTEMBER SIXTH IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANY MOMENT NOW HYYYYYPE SO EXCITED THAT ITS FINALLY COMING THE NEW PYRO UPDATE JUNGLE UPDATE MORE HATS AND ITS HAPPENING TOOODAY HAVE YOU EVER BEEN MORE HYPED ITS PROBABLY GONNA BE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES ARE YOU READY INVESTIGATE 9/6 PYRO IS GONNA BE FIXED ITS GONNA BE SO COOL THE LONG AWAITED UPDATE
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#10
28 Frags +
PazerValve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, they really don't want to release a broken/bad update..

:thinking:

[quote=Pazer]Valve knows the community is upset with the long wait. They've decided that quality is the most important thing, t[b]hey really don't want to release a broken/bad update..[/b][/quote]

:thinking:
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#11
15 Frags +

alright boys its time to kill uncle dane

alright boys its time to kill uncle dane
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#12
24 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqD1-oplSE

valve doesn't drop update, dane drops single instead

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqD1-oplSE[/youtube]valve doesn't drop update, dane drops single instead
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#13
4 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZVHDmjGut8

kinda random but also related , but two years later (more than actually) and still nothing has really happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZVHDmjGut8

kinda random but also related , but two years later (more than actually) and still nothing has really happened
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#14
16 Frags +

https://days.to/until/%39%2d%6a%75%6e%65

Show Content
https://days.to/until/%39%2d%6a%75%6e%65

[spoiler][img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/166266/3.0[/img][/spoiler]
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#15
10 Frags +

anyone have a twitch link to dane's live execution?

anyone have a twitch link to dane's live execution?
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#16
23 Frags +
uberchainhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqD1-oplSEvalve doesn't drop update, dane drops single instead

it was just a pr stunt for his music career

like a sex tape but for tf2 youtubers

[quote=uberchain][youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQqD1-oplSE[/youtube]valve doesn't drop update, dane drops single instead[/quote]

it was just a pr stunt for his music career

like a sex tape but for tf2 youtubers
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#17
0 Frags +

#NotMyUncle
pretend it's dane's face instead of gabe newell
https://youtu.be/IvdqBkmR76Y

#NotMyUncle
pretend it's dane's face instead of gabe newell
https://youtu.be/IvdqBkmR76Y
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#18
9 Frags +

"I admit my mistake of posting the cryptic tweet. I did it out of excitement literally a few hours after I left Valve's offices. Yep, bad move. I should have either just been clear about what I saw (like my follow-up clarifications) or just kept my mouth shut. And for not making those choices, I apologize.

Since we're approaching the event horizon of the 9/6 update officially being over, I might as well be extremely clear about what I saw, nothing left out. This information does not reflect my opinion or any speculation of mine.

When we were walking through the doorway that leads into where the TF Team has all of their desks, Eric took us past a rectangular shaped board room with a glass wall, so you could see inside of the entire thing from the hallway. We stopped in front of it and he explained to us what it's used for (it's used for meetings, to no one's surprise). Inside the board room was three things: a television on the far left wall, a long board room table and chairs in the middle, and a whiteboard on the far right wall.

I remembered seeing this room through the glass wall during my first visit in January. When I saw it the first time, I remember the whiteboard being basically full of random writings, none of which was clearly visible. This time, the entire whiteboard was blank except for a few things in the bottom left corner, clearly visible (for the most part) through the glass wall. I stared at it for a good long while during Eric's explanation of the room's purpose, and saw that it was exactly the following:

The words "September 6th". Below that, a time of day. This was considerably smaller than the date, so I couldn't see exactly what it said, but it was clear to me that it was a time of day. It looked a little bit like 11:30am or something, but I couldn't be sure. So I have always left that information out, since I don't know what it said. Then, underneath that - a very simplistic doodle that was very obviously a jungle. There were a few tropical looking trees and bushes all sitting on a bit of land. Looked more like a small island than anything, but it was obvious to me that it was a very small doodle of a jungle.

That was the only thing written on the whiteboard. Past that, I have no other information from my discussions with the four Valve employees we spoke with for a few hours over lunch and in their office. I've said it before in other places, but 90% of the time, we spoke to them about what we think is good, what we think needs improvement. They listened, we talked. It was not an official meeting by any means, I only wanted to visit again because I genuinely enjoy the atmosphere of Valve, the TF Team is very friendly and down-to-earth, and I love their game and respect their passion for the game. I was in town, so I wanted to stop by and catch up. I didn't go to just press them about Pyro Update news, or interview them like Tyler did.

Sure, I would have loved to have gotten some sort of hint directly from the team, but they love their surprises, so the lack of new info wasn't... surprising. And if the TF Team would have told me anything in confidence, I wouldn't talk about it publically. In fact, there are still things I learned during my first visit that I haven't spoken to anyone about, and I don't plan to - simply because it was told to me in confidence.

The difference between leaking the date I saw on the board, and leaking something the TF Team told me directly comes down to the fact that I have no idea what it meant. My mistake was that I implied it was "official" via loosely cryptic tweet. The only reason I've had faith in the date being real is because...

1) The implication is pretty damn strong. I mean, it's a date and time over a doodle of a jungle. What else could that possibly mean? I thought it was obvious.
2) It's in their board room, which is used for meetings. I imagine it went down like this: They call a meeting intended to decide the launch date. While everyone goes around confirming that their individual projects are completed, someone doodles a jungle on the board to pass the time. Once they all confirm when they think it will be done, a date is written, along with a time. Meeting adjourned, nothing else to discuss. Back to work.
3) The NINESIX meme has been bumpin' for 4 days. If a launch date decision wasn't the reason for this date being written on the whiteboard, you'd think that someone from the TF Team (like Jill) would publicly debunk it. It would take a second, and it would prevent all the disappointment from happening very easily. It would take 10 seconds. I know Valve employees don't like to speak up or clarify things, but I would imagine that an assumption this popular would warrant at least a "nope, lol" from someone. This is the main reason I was expecting it today, to be honest.

This post is getting really fucking long, so I'll just call it here. Once again, sorry for the bamboozle. I was excited, I made a mistake in the way that I brought the speculation to the public. Thanks for being a tad more understanding than the Reddit, guys. I know the Uncle Dane Hunting Memes are mostly in good fun, but do know that I actually feel bad about the way it's gone down and the only thing I can do now is wait and hope just like everyone else."

- Uncle Dane

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1577839&p=52655875&viewfull=1#post52655875

"I admit my mistake of posting the cryptic tweet. I did it out of excitement literally a few hours after I left Valve's offices. Yep, bad move. I should have either just been clear about what I saw (like my follow-up clarifications) or just kept my mouth shut. And for not making those choices, I apologize.

Since we're approaching the event horizon of the 9/6 update officially being over, I might as well be extremely clear about what I saw, nothing left out. This information does not reflect my opinion or any speculation of mine.

When we were walking through the doorway that leads into where the TF Team has all of their desks, Eric took us past a rectangular shaped board room with a glass wall, so you could see inside of the entire thing from the hallway. We stopped in front of it and he explained to us what it's used for (it's used for meetings, to no one's surprise). Inside the board room was three things: a television on the far left wall, a long board room table and chairs in the middle, and a whiteboard on the far right wall.

I remembered seeing this room through the glass wall during my first visit in January. When I saw it the first time, I remember the whiteboard being basically full of random writings, none of which was clearly visible. This time, the entire whiteboard was blank except for a few things in the bottom left corner, clearly visible (for the most part) through the glass wall. I stared at it for a good long while during Eric's explanation of the room's purpose, and saw that it was exactly the following:

The words "September 6th". Below that, a time of day. This was considerably smaller than the date, so I couldn't see exactly what it said, but it was clear to me that it was a time of day. It looked a little bit like 11:30am or something, but I couldn't be sure. So I have always left that information out, since I don't know what it said. Then, underneath that - a very simplistic doodle that was very obviously a jungle. There were a few tropical looking trees and bushes all sitting on a bit of land. Looked more like a small island than anything, but it was obvious to me that it was a very small doodle of a jungle.

That was the only thing written on the whiteboard. Past that, I have no other information from my discussions with the four Valve employees we spoke with for a few hours over lunch and in their office. I've said it before in other places, but 90% of the time, we spoke to them about what we think is good, what we think needs improvement. They listened, we talked. It was not an official meeting by any means, I only wanted to visit again because I genuinely enjoy the atmosphere of Valve, the TF Team is very friendly and down-to-earth, and I love their game and respect their passion for the game. I was in town, so I wanted to stop by and catch up. I didn't go to just press them about Pyro Update news, or interview them like Tyler did.

Sure, I would have loved to have gotten some sort of hint directly from the team, but they love their surprises, so the lack of new info wasn't... surprising. And if the TF Team would have told me anything in confidence, I wouldn't talk about it publically. In fact, there are still things I learned during my first visit that I haven't spoken to anyone about, and I don't plan to - simply because it was told to me in confidence.

The difference between leaking the date I saw on the board, and leaking something the TF Team told me directly comes down to the fact that I have no idea what it meant. My mistake was that I implied it was "official" via loosely cryptic tweet. The only reason I've had faith in the date being real is because...

1) The implication is pretty damn strong. I mean, it's a date and time over a doodle of a jungle. What else could that possibly mean? I thought it was obvious.
2) It's in their board room, which is used for meetings. I imagine it went down like this: They call a meeting intended to decide the launch date. While everyone goes around confirming that their individual projects are completed, someone doodles a jungle on the board to pass the time. Once they all confirm when they think it will be done, a date is written, along with a time. Meeting adjourned, nothing else to discuss. Back to work.
3) The NINESIX meme has been bumpin' for 4 days. If a launch date decision wasn't the reason for this date being written on the whiteboard, you'd think that someone from the TF Team (like Jill) would publicly debunk it. It would take a second, and it would prevent all the disappointment from happening very easily. It would take 10 seconds. I know Valve employees don't like to speak up or clarify things, but I would imagine that an assumption this popular would warrant at least a "nope, lol" from someone. This is the main reason I was expecting it today, to be honest.

This post is getting really fucking long, so I'll just call it here. Once again, sorry for the bamboozle. I was excited, I made a mistake in the way that I brought the speculation to the public. Thanks for being a tad more understanding than the Reddit, guys. I know the Uncle Dane Hunting Memes are mostly in good fun, but do know that I actually feel bad about the way it's gone down and the only thing I can do now is wait and hope just like everyone else."

- Uncle Dane

https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1577839&p=52655875&viewfull=1#post52655875
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#19
14 Frags +

They said it was gonna be 9/6, but they didn't say what year.

They said it was gonna be 9/6, but they didn't say what year.
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#20
7 Frags +

or it's actually june 9th of next year lmao

or it's actually june 9th of next year lmao
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#21
21 Frags +

September 6th was actually the day they started working on the update...

September 6th was actually the day they started working on the update...
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#22
17 Frags +
Show Content

from a former valve employee.

[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/veKzAHT.png[/img][/spoiler]from a [url=https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Valve-Corporation-Reviews-E24849.htm]former valve employee.[/url]
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#23
12 Frags +

Well... if I could just play games and surf the web all day while still making money, I probably would. Rip valve

Well... if I could just play games and surf the web all day while still making money, I probably would. Rip valve
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#24
7 Frags +
sagevalveExpect nothing from Valve over the next few years but micro economies masquerading as games and hardware products nobody wanted or asked for.

i want to cry

[quote=sage][quote=valve]Expect nothing from Valve over the next few years but micro economies masquerading as games and hardware products nobody wanted or asked for.[/quote][/quote]

i want to cry
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