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8values political quiz
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#31
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socialism is the opposite of economic libertarianism

but economic libertarians do not possess sole authority over what constitutes freedom and liberty

some people happen to believe that rich people are a lot more "free" than poor people because they have many more life options available to them and are not constrained by circumstance, and that poor people are deprived of certain basic rights, which we call positive rights

someone can be a civil libertarian and still feel this way

socialism is the opposite of economic libertarianism

but economic libertarians do not possess sole authority over what constitutes freedom and liberty

some people happen to believe that rich people are a lot more "free" than poor people because they have many more life options available to them and are not constrained by circumstance, and that poor people are deprived of certain basic rights, which we call positive rights

someone can be a civil libertarian and still feel this way
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#32
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centrist is what i got

centrist is what i got
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#33
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mustardoverlordsome people happen to believe that rich people are a lot more "free" than poor people because they have many more life options available to them and are not constrained by circumstance

everyone is constrained by circumstance, I can't breathe underwater or fly, that's not an injustice imposed on me, it's the nature of life. The option to live in a nice house or drive a nice car is not relevant to the idea of liberty, someone had to build that nice house and that nice car, if you can't afford to pay for it, that's just too bad, nobody is constraining your liberty by refusing to GIVE YOU FREE SHIT.

[quote=mustardoverlord]some people happen to believe that rich people are a lot more "free" than poor people because they have many more life options available to them and are not constrained by circumstance[/quote]
everyone is constrained by circumstance, I can't breathe underwater or fly, that's not an injustice imposed on me, it's the nature of life. The option to live in a nice house or drive a nice car is not relevant to the idea of liberty, someone had to build that nice house and that nice car, if you can't afford to pay for it, that's just too bad, nobody is constraining your liberty by refusing to GIVE YOU FREE SHIT.
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#34
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=39.7&d=40.4&g=39.1&s=41.5

hmm...

i didnt feel like a neutral guy but apparently i am!

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=39.7&d=40.4&g=39.1&s=41.5

hmm...

i didnt feel like a neutral guy but apparently i am!
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#35
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You are missing the whole "Not everyone thinks like you do, and as it so happens some people think that they are in fact entitled to that free stuff"

Regardless of what is right or wrong, you are incorrect because this is 100% a discussion on peoples viewpoints and not a discussion about what actually happens.

You are missing the whole "Not everyone thinks like you do, and as it so happens some people think that they are in fact entitled to that free stuff"

Regardless of what is right or wrong, you are incorrect because this is 100% a discussion on peoples viewpoints and not a discussion about what actually happens.
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#36
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Liberalism, AKA "Fence-Sitter"

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=45.5&d=54.5&g=53.9&s=59.4

Liberalism, AKA "Fence-Sitter"

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=45.5&d=54.5&g=53.9&s=59.4
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#37
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Tino_You are missing the whole "Not everyone thinks like you do, and as it so happens some people think that they are in fact entitled to that free stuff"

thinking you are entitled to free shit does not make it so.

believing that the government should forcibly redistribute wealth in order to give free shit to people who can't pay for it is not libertarian, end of.

[quote=Tino_]You are missing the whole "Not everyone thinks like you do, and as it so happens some people think that they are in fact entitled to that free stuff"[/quote]
thinking you are entitled to free shit does not make it so.

believing that the government should forcibly redistribute wealth in order to give free shit to people who can't pay for it is not libertarian, end of.
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#38
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http://imgur.com/a/yPmdo

Cool, guess I'm kind of in the middle. Everybody happy (except the radicals)

http://imgur.com/a/yPmdo

Cool, guess I'm kind of in the middle. Everybody happy (except the radicals)
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#39
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This thread is bad.

This thread is bad.
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#40
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Show Content

fukkin liberals

[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/cNkIJmj.png[/img][/spoiler]

fukkin liberals
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#41
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the301stspartanThis thread is bad.

every political thread on tftv is dumpster-worthy

[quote=the301stspartan]This thread is bad.[/quote]
every political thread on tftv is dumpster-worthy
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#42
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i had quite a bit of unsures

http://puu.sh/vs38q/36223584c8.png

i had quite a bit of unsures
[img]http://puu.sh/vs38q/36223584c8.png[/img]
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#43
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mustardoverlordloothttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies

radicalized by 8chan?

lol you don't leave your basement much do you

100% of men with higher than single digit testosterone have similar answers to mine

but yea ur right if only we redistributed wealth or whatever then you would be employable instead of an obese neet... VENEZUELA, HERE I COME

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=loot]https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies[/quote]

radicalized by 8chan?[/quote]

lol you don't leave your basement much do you

100% of men with higher than single digit testosterone have similar answers to mine

but yea ur right if only we redistributed wealth or whatever then you would be employable instead of an obese neet... VENEZUELA, HERE I COME
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#44
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Adnurakevery political thread on tftv is dumpster-worthy

just like ur opinion and analysis

[quote=Adnurak]
every political thread on tftv is dumpster-worthy[/quote]

just like ur opinion and analysis
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#45
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http://i.imgur.com/jZ0uOEr.png

[img]http://i.imgur.com/jZ0uOEr.png[/img]
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#46
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http://i.imgur.com/BSrYsd4.png

[img]http://i.imgur.com/BSrYsd4.png[/img]
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#47
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PankeymanAny anarcho capitalists here?

I hope not.

[quote=Pankeyman]Any anarcho capitalists here?[/quote]

I hope not.
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#48
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https

[img]https[/img]
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#49
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=79.0&d=84.6&g=93.9&s=91.2
Closest Match: Libertarian Socialism

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=79.0&d=84.6&g=93.9&s=91.2
Closest Match: Libertarian Socialism
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#50
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=71.8&d=59.0&g=69.7&s=79.8

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=71.8&d=59.0&g=69.7&s=79.8
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#51
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=30.8&d=40.4&g=39.4&s=39.2
Conservatism

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=30.8&d=40.4&g=39.4&s=39.2
Conservatism
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#52
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=80.8&d=69.2&g=69.6&s=82.1
Libertarian Socialism like everyone else and their grandma

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=80.8&d=69.2&g=69.6&s=82.1
Libertarian Socialism like everyone else and their grandma
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#53
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=71.2&d=58.3&g=69.1&s=74.7

Closest Match: Social Liberalism

i accidently answered a question about religions role in government wrong since i misread it, but oh well

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=71.2&d=58.3&g=69.1&s=74.7

Closest Match: Social Liberalism

i accidently answered a question about religions role in government wrong since i misread it, but oh well
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#54
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loothttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies

Civil Axis: Statist
its pretty stupid to hate commies whilst you favor the states power over peoples liberties

[quote=loot]https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies[/quote]
Civil Axis: Statist
its pretty stupid to hate commies whilst you favor the states power over peoples liberties
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#55
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https://i.gyazo.com/a869511ebe72321259fab87f5e77e844.png

Social liberalism

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/a869511ebe72321259fab87f5e77e844.png[/img]

Social liberalism
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#56
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mustardoverlordAdnurakforced redistribution of wealth by the state
libertarianism
choose one; socialism is antithetical to liberty

people without access to health education and food
libertarianism
choose one; capitalism is antithetical to liberty

lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

sounds alot like capitalism to me bud

[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Adnurak]forced redistribution of wealth by the state
libertarianism
choose one; socialism is antithetical to liberty[/quote]

people without access to health education and food
libertarianism
choose one; capitalism is antithetical to liberty[/quote]
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

sounds alot like capitalism to me bud
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#57
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lootmustardoverlordloothttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies

radicalized by 8chan?

lol you don't leave your basement much do you

anyway I said "not sure" for over half the questions (tantamount to "who gives a shit" answer)

alot of the question are situational
for example question 4 can easily go either way
Publicly-funded research is more beneficial to the people than leaving it to the market.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=40.4&d=44.9&g=64.1&s=57.7
liberalism

[quote=loot][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=loot]https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=35.3&d=32.1&g=30.7&s=23.6

die commies[/quote]

radicalized by 8chan?[/quote]

lol you don't leave your basement much do you

anyway I said "not sure" for over half the questions (tantamount to "who gives a shit" answer)[/quote]
alot of the question are situational
for example question 4 can easily go either way
Publicly-funded research is more beneficial to the people than leaving it to the market.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=40.4&d=44.9&g=64.1&s=57.7
liberalism
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#58
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Nub_DanishmustardoverlordAdnurakforced redistribution of wealth by the state
libertarianism
choose one; socialism is antithetical to liberty

people without access to health education and food
libertarianism
choose one; capitalism is antithetical to liberty
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

sounds alot like capitalism to me bud

that would be the classical definition of libertarianism, yes. but it's not the way this test is using it when they say "libertarian socialist". by that they really mean "civil libertarian socialist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_libertarianism

civil libertarianism is one facet of classical libertarianism. the other half is economic libertarianism.

I know this seems like a dumb battle of semantics but the reason I'm engaging in it is because that other dude was trying to use the unclear language to argue that free markets and other forms of liberty are inexorably tied to one another. I think this is complete bullshit; there are social democratic societies that are more free than authoritarian regimes with free markets (Pinochet's Chile for instance).

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Adnurak]forced redistribution of wealth by the state
libertarianism
choose one; socialism is antithetical to liberty[/quote]

people without access to health education and food
libertarianism
choose one; capitalism is antithetical to liberty[/quote]
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

sounds alot like capitalism to me bud[/quote]

that would be the classical definition of libertarianism, yes. but it's not the way this test is using it when they say "libertarian socialist". by that they really mean "civil libertarian socialist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_libertarianism

civil libertarianism is one facet of classical libertarianism. the other half is economic libertarianism.

I know this seems like a dumb battle of semantics but the reason I'm engaging in it is because that other dude was trying to use the unclear language to argue that free markets and other forms of liberty are inexorably tied to one another. I think this is complete bullshit; there are social democratic societies that are more free than authoritarian regimes with free markets (Pinochet's Chile for instance).
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#59
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=33.3&d=36.5&g=32.5&s=45.7

right wing populism

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=33.3&d=36.5&g=32.5&s=45.7

right wing populism
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#60
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https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=53.8&d=66.0&g=66.3&s=70.4

Liberalism

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=53.8&d=66.0&g=66.3&s=70.4

Liberalism
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