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LF Pre-Built (run tf2 at ~150 fps)
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I'm pretty clueless when it comes to computer hardware, but I've been using the same laptop for games over the past few years, and I think it's time for an upgrade. My goal is to run CS and tf2 at 150 (preferably 200) fps stable, but I don't want to build my own computer (I would break something). I don't know how realistic this is, especially with a monitor and OS still for under $1k total.

I found these online:
https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1379615
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Six_Core_Configurator

but, I don't really know who to expect out of them in terms of performance. Also, if anyone knows any better alternatives that would be appreciated.

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to computer hardware, but I've been using the same laptop for games over the past few years, and I think it's time for an upgrade. My goal is to run CS and tf2 at 150 (preferably 200) fps stable, but I don't want to build my own computer (I would break something). I don't know how realistic this is, especially with a monitor and OS still for under $1k total.

I found these online:
https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1379615
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD_Six_Core_Configurator

but, I don't really know who to expect out of them in terms of performance. Also, if anyone knows any better alternatives that would be appreciated.
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Building a PC is a much better alternative than a pre-built TBH. As long as you're careful with the parts, don't create any static and such, building a PC should be pretty easy.

Building a PC is a much better alternative than a pre-built TBH. As long as you're careful with the parts, don't create any static and such, building a PC should be pretty easy.
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Build your own. You save like 40% and you know how to fix shit if anything goes sideways in the future. Its like big boy legos, not a lot to it.

Or if you dont want to ask shdsteel, i know he builds PCs for people and i am sure he would help you out.

Just dont buy prebuilt there are many better options.

Build your own. You save like 40% and you know how to fix shit if anything goes sideways in the future. Its like big boy legos, not a lot to it.

Or if you dont want to ask shdsteel, i know he builds PCs for people and i am sure he would help you out.

Just dont buy prebuilt there are many better options.
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The easiest way to do it is to build a PC yourself. It's not complicated and you save quite a lot.
If you consider building a PC add this guy on steam - he's a PC build god and very trustable.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/user/Setsul

The easiest way to do it is to build a PC yourself. It's not complicated and you save quite a lot.
If you consider building a PC add this guy on steam - he's a PC build god and very trustable.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/user/Setsul
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are you planning on using an fps config, or high quality settings?

are you planning on using an fps config, or high quality settings?
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*Summoning Mr.Setsul*

*Summoning Mr.Setsul*
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Cerdurare you planning on using an fps config, or high quality settings?

I don't really care about settings but I don't want to use a cfg (can't in CSGO, tf2 is moving in that direction).

@others I know building is a great option, I just want to look at other things/know what I'm doing first.

[quote=Cerdur]are you planning on using an fps config, or high quality settings?[/quote]
I don't really care about settings but I don't want to use a cfg (can't in CSGO, tf2 is moving in that direction).

@others I know building is a great option, I just want to look at other things/know what I'm doing first.
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I thought I'd be able to post something here "today" but since it's technically already the next day and I'm tired I'll just call it a night.

Don't worry, I'll post something tomorrow.
#8 is solid advice though.

I thought I'd be able to post something here "today" but since it's technically already the next day and I'm tired I'll just call it a night.

Don't worry, I'll post something tomorrow.
#8 is solid advice though.
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You can 100% bring your parts to a computer store and have them assemble it for you for a fee. Doesn't even have to be their parts. Do this instead of buying prebuilt if you want to save money. You want a strong CPU, a decent GPU, probably an SSD and a 144hz monitor. Check your options at pcpartspicker, it should be possible for under 1k.

Also not sure if it's possible to run tf2 at stable 200 without a config these days regardless of hardware

You can 100% bring your parts to a computer store and have them assemble it for you for a fee. Doesn't even have to be their parts. Do this instead of buying prebuilt if you want to save money. You want a strong CPU, a decent GPU, probably an SSD and a 144hz monitor. Check your options at pcpartspicker, it should be possible for under 1k.

Also not sure if it's possible to run tf2 at stable 200 without a config these days regardless of hardware
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FireIdk about us Stores but there are some Stores here where you can select your own parts and they build the pc for you, its probably a bit more expensive since you have to get all the parts from the same Shop, but still cheaper than buying a real prebuilt pc.

Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source. For Streaming you want to look for an i7 but I guess you didn't Plan to do that.(I think Ram speed enhanced your fps a bit but usually ddr4 is >= 2133 anyways?)
the301stspartanYou can 100% bring your parts to a computer store and have them assemble it for you for a fee. Doesn't even have to be their parts. Do this instead of buying prebuilt if you want to save money. You want a strong CPU, a decent GPU, probably an SSD and a 144hz monitor. Check your options at pcpartspicker, it should be possible for under 1k.

Also not sure if it's possible to run tf2 at stable 200 without a config these days regardless of hardware

I just checked and my local(ish) place builds for $130. Thanks for the suggestion! I wouldn't have thought of that.

Thank you everyone for the comments so far.

[quote=Fire]Idk about us Stores but there are some Stores here where you can select your own parts and they build the pc for you, its probably a bit more expensive since you have to get all the parts from the same Shop, but still cheaper than buying a real prebuilt pc.

Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source. For Streaming you want to look for an i7 but I guess you didn't Plan to do that.(I think Ram speed enhanced your fps a bit but usually ddr4 is >= 2133 anyways?)[/quote]
[quote=the301stspartan]You can 100% bring your parts to a computer store and have them assemble it for you for a fee. Doesn't even have to be their parts. Do this instead of buying prebuilt if you want to save money. You want a strong CPU, a decent GPU, probably an SSD and a 144hz monitor. Check your options at pcpartspicker, it should be possible for under 1k.

Also not sure if it's possible to run tf2 at stable 200 without a config these days regardless of hardware[/quote]
I just checked and my local(ish) place builds for $130. Thanks for the suggestion! I wouldn't have thought of that.

Thank you everyone for the comments so far.
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Fire Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.

Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.

[quote=Fire] Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.[/quote]

Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.
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ZestyFire Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.
Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.

My current laptop has an i7 processor and Intel Integrated HD Graphics so I'm aware LOL

Edit: i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz for clarification
Point being my graphics card is holding me back a lot (I think)

[quote=Zesty][quote=Fire] Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.[/quote]

Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.[/quote]
My current laptop has an i7 processor and Intel Integrated HD Graphics so I'm aware LOL


Edit: i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz for clarification
Point being my graphics card is holding me back a lot (I think)
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Boomfan56ZestyFire Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.
Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.
My current laptop has an i7 processor and Intel Integrated HD Graphics so I'm aware LOL

If you're talking about processors saying "i7" only doesn't mean shit

[quote=Boomfan56][quote=Zesty][quote=Fire] Also if you really want a prebuilt I guess you should try to get an i5 6600 or 6500 and the Rest basically doesnt matter for fps in source.[/quote]

Just want to mention that while this might be true, don't get an absolutely abysmal (or no) graphics card because there's a limit.[/quote]
My current laptop has an i7 processor and Intel Integrated HD Graphics so I'm aware LOL[/quote]

If you're talking about processors saying "i7" only doesn't mean shit
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Building your own PC will save you a lot of money. Plus you get the experience of building one so you know how to in the future. I built mine for 900 USD including moniter, mouse and keyboard. It can run TF2 at a constant 290-300 fps.

Building your own PC will save you a lot of money. Plus you get the experience of building one so you know how to in the future. I built mine for 900 USD including moniter, mouse and keyboard. It can run TF2 at a constant 290-300 fps.
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building your own is seriously such a better deal. if you really don't wanna build it I'm sure some computer shop will build it for you (ideally with you) for $20 or something

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1019.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-13 11:26 EDT-0400

something i threw together quickly. i made most of it originally with GBP prices so there might be a few $ to shave off by reselecting some parts. if you're a student you can probably get an OS for free with MS dreamspark, check that (if not pm me closer to when you're building and ill give you a key from it)

in other news wow ddr3 is so cheap now

building your own is seriously such a better deal. if you really don't wanna build it I'm sure some computer shop will build it for you (ideally with you) for $20 or something

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cr7MvV]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cr7MvV/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/7bNp99/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3mPzK8/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary]ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/tmYXsY/crucial-memory-ct2kit51264ba160bj]Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($41.98 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/cZRFf7/msi-video-card-r9380gaming4g]MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card[/url] ($174.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/svVBD3/fractal-design-case-fdcadefsbk]Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/CVkD4D/corsair-power-supply-cx750m]Corsair CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($79.89 @ Newegg)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Total:[/b] $1019.19
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-13 11:26 EDT-0400[/i]

something i threw together quickly. i made most of it originally with GBP prices so there might be a few $ to shave off by reselecting some parts. if you're a student you can probably get an OS for free with MS dreamspark, check that (if not pm me closer to when you're building and ill give you a key from it)

in other news wow ddr3 is so cheap now
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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc

You can even go there to see what other people purchased and see what builds are within your price range.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc

You can even go there to see what other people purchased and see what builds are within your price range.
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#11
For TF2 you can get away with an i3, an i5 makes almost no difference (5%). I think CS:GO needs a bit more power so to be on the safe side you want an i5-6500 or i5-6600.
I'm guessing you need a monitor as well? Is that included in the 100$ budget?

Would be good if you could post whatever partlist the shop suggest so we can check it.

#17
Wouldn't recommend Haswell anymore, Skylake is faster and the same price. Same for DDR3 vs DDR4.

Also mediocre overpriced 750W PSU for a <400W, smh.

I get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.

#11
For TF2 you can get away with an i3, an i5 makes almost no difference (5%). I think CS:GO needs a bit more power so to be on the safe side you want an i5-6500 or i5-6600.
I'm guessing you need a monitor as well? Is that included in the 100$ budget?

Would be good if you could post whatever partlist the shop suggest so we can check it.

#17
Wouldn't recommend Haswell anymore, Skylake is faster and the same price. Same for DDR3 vs DDR4.

Also mediocre overpriced 750W PSU for a <400W, smh.

I get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.
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Setsul#11
For TF2 you can get away with an i3, an i5 makes almost no difference (5%). I think CS:GO needs a bit more power so to be on the safe side you want an i5-6500 or i5-6600.
I'm guessing you need a monitor as well? Is that included in the 100$ budget?

Would be good if you could post whatever partlist the shop suggest so we can check

I just looked on their website so far. I haven't gone there yet so I didn't talk to them about parts.
I saw you made some build a few weeks back for $750, should I try to base mine off of that? I want the monitor (120hz probably?) to be included in the $1000 yes. I'm looking for a balanced build so the 6500 looks good (they have it in stock as well). Is there a reason you prefer Intel over AMD? Thanks for the help.

I'll keep poking around their website for parts.

[quote=Setsul]#11
For TF2 you can get away with an i3, an i5 makes almost no difference (5%). I think CS:GO needs a bit more power so to be on the safe side you want an i5-6500 or i5-6600.
I'm guessing you need a monitor as well? Is that included in the 100$ budget?

Would be good if you could post whatever partlist the shop suggest so we can check
[/quote]
I just looked on their website so far. I haven't gone there yet so I didn't talk to them about parts.
I saw you made some build a few weeks back for $750, should I try to base mine off of that? I want the monitor (120hz probably?) to be included in the $1000 yes. I'm looking for a balanced build so the 6500 looks good (they have it in stock as well). Is there a reason you prefer Intel over AMD? Thanks for the help.

I'll keep poking around their website for parts.
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Setsul#17
Wouldn't recommend Haswell anymore, Skylake is faster and the same price. Same for DDR3 vs DDR4.

Also mediocre overpriced 750W PSU for a <400W, smh.

I get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.

Huh, weird, on my quick price check the skylake was £70 more just for the CPU. I normally leave headroom with PSUs cause I normally OC and this is an AMD card too, but fair point. Also afaik they both use the exact same panel, lightboost is probs worth the slightly higher cost tho

[quote=Setsul]#17
Wouldn't recommend Haswell anymore, Skylake is faster and the same price. Same for DDR3 vs DDR4.

Also mediocre overpriced 750W PSU for a <400W, smh.

I get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.[/quote]

Huh, weird, on my quick price check the skylake was £70 more just for the CPU. I normally leave headroom with PSUs cause I normally OC and this is an AMD card too, but fair point. Also afaik they both use the exact same panel, lightboost is probs worth the slightly higher cost tho
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you can choose parts quite easily
with AMD its even easier because they only have 2 CPUs worth buying (fx-6300, fx-8350)

you can choose parts quite easily
with AMD its even easier because they only have 2 CPUs worth buying (fx-6300, fx-8350)
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ew amd for tf2 smh

ew amd for tf2 smh
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sage78you can choose parts quite easily
with AMD its even easier because they only have 2 CPUs worth buying (fx-6300, fx-8350)

ew amd cpus

[quote=sage78]you can choose parts quite easily
with AMD its even easier because they only have 2 CPUs worth buying (fx-6300, fx-8350)[/quote]
ew amd cpus
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#20
Which one? I made a lot of builds.

There is no preference here. AMD hasn't released a new high end CPU in 4 years. And even back then the single threaded performance was terrible. TF2 only uses 3 cores (2 cores with 2 logical cores each (i3) works just as well), so you want those to be as fast as possible. So getting an AMD 8 core for the price of an Intel 4 core looks nice on paper but since 5 of those 8 cores won't be doing anything and since the cores a so slow that even if all 8 are used it can only just about trade blows with the Intel 4 core it's really not a good deal at all. Remember that was 4 years ago.
Sure, Intel hasn't gotten a whole lot faster but neither has AMD. So while AMD does sell some nice cheap overclockable Quad Cores (Athlon X4 7x0K and 8x0K) even overclocked they're still slower.

#21
You've been doing something wrong then. Intel doesn't do price drops and they always release new CPUs that are a few percent faster at almost the same price. No reasons to buy it if it were 50% more expensive.

You'd have to triple the 380's power draw to max out that PSU. I'm pretty it would catch fire way before that.

You wouldn't buy the XL2411T either. Same panel, but the Z offers more/better features. Also the colours on the Asus are worse. I lightboost they are just terrible. I don't mean "you can see it next to an IPS panel" terrible. I mean "why is this blank white page red" terrible.

#22
What if I told you neither is worth buying?

#20
Which one? I made a lot of builds.

There is no preference here. AMD hasn't released a new high end CPU in 4 years. And even back then the single threaded performance was terrible. TF2 only uses 3 cores (2 cores with 2 logical cores each (i3) works just as well), so you want those to be as fast as possible. So getting an AMD 8 core for the price of an Intel 4 core looks nice on paper but since 5 of those 8 cores won't be doing anything and since the cores a so slow that even if all 8 are used it can only just about trade blows with the Intel 4 core it's really not a good deal at all. Remember that was 4 years ago.
Sure, Intel hasn't gotten a whole lot faster but neither has AMD. So while AMD does sell some nice cheap overclockable Quad Cores (Athlon X4 7x0K and 8x0K) even overclocked they're still slower.

#21
You've been doing something wrong then. Intel doesn't do price drops and they always release new CPUs that are a few percent faster at almost the same price. No reasons to buy it if it were 50% more expensive.

You'd have to triple the 380's power draw to max out that PSU. I'm pretty it would catch fire way before that.

You wouldn't buy the XL2411T either. Same panel, but the Z offers more/better features. Also the colours on the Asus are worse. I lightboost they are just terrible. I don't mean "you can see it next to an IPS panel" terrible. I mean "why is this blank [b]white[/b] page [b]red[/b]" terrible.

#22
What if I told you neither is worth buying?
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I threw together a list of possible components.
I'm open for suggestions on any of this (especially motherboard and graphics because I know very little about them).
You should be able to identify the products by the URL (I'm on my phone so typing these out was gonna be a pain).
CPU:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor ($180)
CPU Cooler:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/312368/Hyper_TX3_92mm_HP_CPU_Cooler ($22) (do I need this if my case comes with 3 coolers?)
Memory:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/466885/HyperX_Fury_Black_8GB_DDR4-2133_PC4-17000_CL14_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Module ($35)
Power Supply:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457136/Silver_Series_ILS-500-2_500_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply ($28)
Case:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459076/(Open-Box)_SPEC-02_Carbide_Series_Mid-Tower_Gaming_Case ($40)
Graphics:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/450851/Radeon_R7_370_GAMING_2GB_GDDR5_PCI-e_Video_Card ($128)
Drive:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454560/P300_1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_III_6Gb-s_35_Desktop_Internal_Hard_Drive_-_HDWD110XZSTA ($40)
Motherboard:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446600/Z97_Anniversary_Edition_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard ($80)
SSD (how important is this?):
http://www.microcenter.com/product/463425/750_EVO_Series_250GB_SATA_III_6Gb-s_25_Internal_SSD_Unit_Version_MZ-750250BW ($68)
Total: $621 (before tax and misc rebates)
I roughly based this off http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/618222/pc-build-thread
Is it worth getting a 120/144hz monitor with this kind of build?
Thank you everyone for the help so far!

I threw together a list of possible components.
I'm open for suggestions on any of this (especially motherboard and graphics because I know very little about them).
You should be able to identify the products by the URL (I'm on my phone so typing these out was gonna be a pain).
CPU:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor ($180)
CPU Cooler:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/312368/Hyper_TX3_92mm_HP_CPU_Cooler ($22) (do I need this if my case comes with 3 coolers?)
Memory:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/466885/HyperX_Fury_Black_8GB_DDR4-2133_PC4-17000_CL14_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Module ($35)
Power Supply:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457136/Silver_Series_ILS-500-2_500_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply ($28)
Case:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459076/(Open-Box)_SPEC-02_Carbide_Series_Mid-Tower_Gaming_Case ($40)
Graphics:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/450851/Radeon_R7_370_GAMING_2GB_GDDR5_PCI-e_Video_Card ($128)
Drive:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454560/P300_1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_III_6Gb-s_35_Desktop_Internal_Hard_Drive_-_HDWD110XZSTA ($40)
Motherboard:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446600/Z97_Anniversary_Edition_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard ($80)
SSD (how important is this?):
http://www.microcenter.com/product/463425/750_EVO_Series_250GB_SATA_III_6Gb-s_25_Internal_SSD_Unit_Version_MZ-750250BW ($68)
Total: $621 (before tax and misc rebates)
I roughly based this off http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/618222/pc-build-thread
Is it worth getting a 120/144hz monitor with this kind of build?
Thank you everyone for the help so far!
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SetsulThere is no preference here. AMD hasn't released a new high end CPU in 4 years. And even back then the single threaded performance was terrible.

yo setsul did that Zen leak make you tingle inside like it did for me?

[quote=Setsul]
There is no preference here. AMD hasn't released a new high end CPU in 4 years. And even back then the single threaded performance was terrible.[/quote]
yo setsul did that Zen leak make you tingle inside like it did for me?
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#26
Not quite, you've got 3 fans. Cooler is the metal thing that goes on the CPU. There's a fan on that too. However "boxed" means that the CPU comes in box, bundled with a cooler, so you don't need to buy one.

I'd get a different PSU.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457191/430_Watt_80_Plus_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply_Refurbished
Should be a bit better and cheaper. Or
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457217/CX500_500W_ATX12V_v23_80_Plus_Bronze_ATX_Power_Supply_Refurbished
The CX430 only got one 8 pin and that limits you a bit when upgrading/replacing the GPU.

On that note with the CX500 you could get
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451824/Radeon_R9_380_2GB_GDDR5_PCIe_Video_Card
If the rebate applies. 32$ for 30% more performance. Not necessary, it's just a nice to have.

SSD isn't important but it's nice to have, the pc will boot a lot faster, programs start faster and so on.

The motherboard is wrong though. Wrong socket. LGA1150, you need LGA1151.
Also Z chipsets are for overclocking. Since you can only overclock -K CPUs you don't need that.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454324/GA-H170M-D3H_LGA_1151_mATX_Intel_Motherboard
I'm not sure if the combination of that mobo and the i5-6500 is eligible for the 30$ bundle rebate, but it would be nice (and then you spend those 30$ immediately on the 380, microcenter wins again).

You can order the monitor wherever you want since it's not part of the build process, right? Get the BenQ XL2411Z if you want Lightboost, AOC G2460PF if you don't.

#27
Which one?

#26
Not quite, you've got 3 fans. Cooler is the metal thing that goes on the CPU. There's a fan on that too. However "boxed" means that the CPU comes in box, bundled with a cooler, so you don't need to buy one.



I'd get a different PSU.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457191/430_Watt_80_Plus_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply_Refurbished
Should be a bit better and cheaper. Or
http://www.microcenter.com/product/457217/CX500_500W_ATX12V_v23_80_Plus_Bronze_ATX_Power_Supply_Refurbished
The CX430 only got one 8 pin and that limits you a bit when upgrading/replacing the GPU.

On that note with the CX500 you could get
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451824/Radeon_R9_380_2GB_GDDR5_PCIe_Video_Card
If the rebate applies. 32$ for 30% more performance. Not necessary, it's just a nice to have.

SSD isn't important but it's nice to have, the pc will boot a lot faster, programs start faster and so on.

The motherboard is wrong though. Wrong socket. LGA1150, you need LGA1151.
Also Z chipsets are for overclocking. Since you can only overclock -K CPUs you don't need that.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454324/GA-H170M-D3H_LGA_1151_mATX_Intel_Motherboard
I'm not sure if the combination of that mobo and the i5-6500 is eligible for the 30$ bundle rebate, but it would be nice (and then you spend those 30$ immediately on the 380, microcenter wins again).

You can order the monitor wherever you want since it's not part of the build process, right? Get the BenQ XL2411Z if you want Lightboost, AOC G2460PF if you don't.


#27
Which one?
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#29
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I made some changes (+r9, smaller ssd, fixed motherboard).
What should I look for in a psu for this build? I assume around 500W. Would you still recommend getting one with multiple 8pin if I don't plan on upgrading this or anything after it's built?

CPU:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor ($180)
Memory:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/466885/HyperX_Fury_Black_8GB_DDR4-2133_PC4-17000_CL14_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Module ($35)
PSU: tbd
Case:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459076/(Open-Box)_SPEC-02_Carbide_Series_Mid-Tower_Gaming_Case ($40)
Graphics:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451824/Radeon_R9_380_2GB_GDDR5_PCIe_Video_Card ($180)
Drive:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454560/P300_1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_III_6Gb-s_35_Desktop_Internal_Hard_Drive_-_HDWD110XZSTA ($40)
Motherboard:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454324/GA-H170M-D3H_LGA_1151_mATX_Intel_Motherboard ($89)
SSD:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/460588/BLAST_120GB_SATA_III_6GB-s_25_Internal_Solid_State_Drive_ ($40)
Total: $604 (no psu/rebates/tax)

I made some changes (+r9, smaller ssd, fixed motherboard).
What should I look for in a psu for this build? I assume around 500W. Would you still recommend getting one with multiple 8pin if I don't plan on upgrading this or anything after it's built?

CPU:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor ($180)
Memory:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/466885/HyperX_Fury_Black_8GB_DDR4-2133_PC4-17000_CL14_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Module ($35)
PSU: tbd
Case:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459076/(Open-Box)_SPEC-02_Carbide_Series_Mid-Tower_Gaming_Case ($40)
Graphics:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451824/Radeon_R9_380_2GB_GDDR5_PCIe_Video_Card ($180)
Drive:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454560/P300_1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_III_6Gb-s_35_Desktop_Internal_Hard_Drive_-_HDWD110XZSTA ($40)
Motherboard:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/454324/GA-H170M-D3H_LGA_1151_mATX_Intel_Motherboard ($89)
SSD:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/460588/BLAST_120GB_SATA_III_6GB-s_25_Internal_Solid_State_Drive_ ($40)
Total: $604 (no psu/rebates/tax)
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SetsulI get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.

This is a derail but can u explain this one? I have the VG and I always thought those 2 were basically identical.

Edit nvm I was blind and didn't read the reason provided. Yes, lightboost colors suck awfully.

[quote=Setsul]
I get tired of saying it but the XL2411Z is the same price as the VG248QE and far better.[/quote]

[s]This is a derail but can u explain this one? I have the VG and I always thought those 2 were basically identical.[/s]

Edit nvm I was blind and didn't read the reason provided. Yes, lightboost colors suck awfully.
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