A significant deterrent to new players/UGC teams from giving Open a try is the massive gulf in the skill level of the top teams vs. the low/new teams - a lot of folks are slow/wary to pay to get beaten down so regularly for the possibility if ESEA TF2 is around in a year they'll have more of a shot at playoffs in the future.

Keeping skilled/talented teams from being formed in IM if they want to isn't just bad for that team, it's bad for ESEA immediately (if they play in Open, lower fees) and also for the league in the long-run as it keeps players in below their level and makes Open less appealing for marginal players to join.

I know, but my point was that this isnt even a case of "moving teams up every season". This is a case of letting a team that SHOULD HAVE BEEN moved up and got fucked because of something poorly thought out in terms of letting one person have so much control over the fate of potentially 2/3 of the team

Honestly Killing, when was the last time you manually moved up a team that wasn't already qualified for promotion from Open to IM? I've been playing ESEA since S11 and I can't seem to recall a single instance of this. The most / weirdest I've seen was S12 where Wutang Finanical and Sunday Funday had to play a tiebreaker game to see who would get 16th seed in playoffs.

I ask this since there are 3 more potential IM teams. Gravegun's roster has been discussed a few times already, and Pinoy Boys and Guado Glories both have "viable" rosters to be used in IM if you would move them up.

I think wolth pack in S9 was the last time

There's kind of no excuse to not get paid especially when there are multiple people offering to pay for teams..

#278 can't you just use the mutiny rule?

p sure he's talking about the issue with hippo and twss so they dont have 5 to mutiny

HIPPO DOESNT EAT VEGETABLES JUST GIVE RINGO THE ROSTER

correct me if im wrong but i dont think that team would reform even if they got the roster now

someone give me an IM roster i'll make a team

https://www.change.org/p/killing-in-the-name-of-esea-give-ringo-an-im-roster?just_created=true

If somebody needs an IM roster, add me on steam. I've already talked to Ringo.

I was told the Ogre roster is also available with 2 people on it that can satisfy the hijack rule.

8)

im 88 cents short for my league fee
someone gimme
ill give you 5.66 ref
thanks mr alexander

Done.

GG games Dead move on with your lives ppl.

Good job reading the thread.

yeah see ya later twssler have fun being autistic in cs, youll fit right in

Almost two years later and my thoughts are identical

why did you play on a team with him in the first place

so is the game dead or what

meat market is paid up which makes 10 teams ready. I'm no expert on this but I think IM is looking good, ~15 teams seem committed and several more are in the works based on above comments. We good ESEA?

So Open has 31 paid teams as of current, which mirrors S16's team count. Open should be okay. The question is the decision(s) on IM.

a new yomie is in invite, poll incoming, IM still exists(?)

http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=14347

We have announced TF2 Season 18 Invite. There is currently a poll with the options of:

Cafe Monster
Kawaii 5-0

The Open numbers are looking really good for S18 so we've decided to go ahead with Invite S18. IM is currently looking a bit weak but there is still time to work on it. If there are far too few teams, we might have to axe it for this season. That decision will be made closer to the deadline. Otherwise, great job community, here's to another 18 seasons.

i would like to play invite. bring it on suckers

I hope you have $84.95 ready

i got that christmas dough son

Are you willing to move up Guado Glories and Pinoy Boys if that will satisfy the amount of teams required to keep IM for next season?