assuming hunczak is jaguar and thunberg is lpkane

How would you remove the monitoring from your computer then? I'm assuming just running an anti-virus scan wouldn't do much.

Hunczak is jaguar. Thunberg is lpkane. Craig Levine is torbull.

That is really pathetic and horrifying, and is demonstrative of a larger issue we've been saying about ESEA for years. They care only about money. Not in the way businesses should care about money...they care about it ruthlessly, without regard for their users. Their users are literally money farms.

We in TF2 pay them for what? An anti-cheat and a LAN? What is so great about the LAN? I know all the "top" invite players won't play without the LAN. I've heard that before. Only...take a look at invite. Where are the top players?

There are 2 teams. 12 players. Are we really suggesting it's all worth it for those 12 players? What about 3rd and 4th place this season. Who is paying for their LAN fund? Who is going to shell out money for these teams to lose in the first round to either iT or Mix?

The community is.

For too long we have begged eachother for money that makes no sense spending. How many former invite players sandbag to avoid going to LAN? How many stopped playing to avoid the LAN and it's fiscal burden? I get that TF2 feels more legitimate having a LAN and being part of a league with name recognition, but is it really worth being the red-headed step child to a league run by thieves?

How much better would this season be with Watch This still playing? No Exceptions for them. Rule enforcement to a T with them. Yet the very creators of those rules, broke the law. And we're supposed to make an exception? We're supposed to say, "that's okay, ESEA, we are spineless nerds who want some vindication playing our game, so take my 60 dollars and my dignity."

Do you really trust the ESEA client after this?

http://i.imgur.com/u2flEZn.gif

They installed code with the client. The code would have been undetected by anti-virus most likely, unless something randomly picked it up on heuristics. Removal would have been accomplished by a format / reinstall of windows.

nvm, didnt refresh as well imdumb

http://puu.sh/5nwOJ.png

This could be interesting

I wonder if this shit is sill in there? I still get warnings form my AV anytime the client updates

i think the bigger question is

do you really think the people who run esea client would try anything like this again?

especially considering if they fuck up again it'll seriously cost them ($650k)

I think they would. We've already shown them that we're willing to let it slide.

Let's forgive them and make an exception just this once. Afterall the company as always been fair and willing to work with the community to provide the best product. Without sticking blindly to an arbitrary rule whenever it best suits them.

But seriously...that is awful reasoning. "They couldn't possibly try to do it again." Just like caught hackers right? If there is financial gain to be had? Who knows. Maybe they do try it again.

All I know is the client hasn't touched this PC since I reformatted, and now it never will.

Nah it's okay guys this happened in the tf2 off-season so it doesn't affect us at all

thunBERG

that's an awful comparison. hackers don't have the law and a large fee hanging over their head.

http://youtu.be/ZcdYYd81X9U?t=4m7s

Also ESEA

Should probably note that this has nothing to do with the Lawsuit in California, and that's still ongoing.

What part of the gov't alphabet soup is ESEA working for?

Maybe it is. But it's all relative. If they see a potential financial gain, maybe they take the risk. I would never trust anyone to not do something based on the logic that "they did it already it would be dumb to do it twice."

I can't wait to read 30 pages of anger and then have everyone play in ESEA instead of UGC or CEVO next season again.

they didnt think twice when they thought they could get away with it but id hope lpkane knows better than to wager 650k on a bunch of nerds not catching him again

also cevo make a lan already fuck

if Cevo did have a LAN would there be any reason to stick with ESEA? I cannot think of one. Piggy-backing off it's "name" hasn't done a single thing for TF2 like everyone originally thought

Hold on.

So you're telling me that ESEA put a backdoor on my computer that did not come off with removal of the software?

Did anyone ever believe that bullshit? How does a developer for such a small company pushes out code of that kind without any kind of previous approval?

also, now I am glad I didn't take part in ESEA EU. I hope next season won't be the same and you guys really take a stance, I am tired of posting the same thing over and over and always getting the same reply, "ESEA isn't good but we have no alternative, they are keeping our scene alive"

I mean, how delusional do you have to be to defend a league after this happen? They didn't even respect your privacy, they had direct access to all your computer files and activity, basically their client was a masked trojan, and worse, it's probably still on your computer.

????

it hasnt had to because its been the only highly-competitive league worth (i use that term lightly) playing in

remember it was cevo who had the corrupt admins and a shit client that made everybody embrace esea

i dont think people ever played esea for exposure, it was just a lesser of two evils

I'm no law expert, but doesn't that punish employees who had no idea what was happening in the first place?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLrhQF3qneA

Recidivism rates are well above 50%. Studies would indicate that punishment doesn't seem to detour criminals all that much, otherwise they wouldn't do it in the first place.

- ESEA shall be solely liable for the entire Settlement Payment. In the
event ESEA fails to meet the Settlement Payment obligations under this Section, Thunberg shall be
liable for no more than One Hundred Fiffy Thousand and 00/100 ($150,000.00) of the Settlement
Payment.

I can't (won't) bring myself to give this company any of my money ever again.

Now it's a corrupt client and shit admins. 8)

Specifically, when ESEA isn't keeping our scene alive. The community is. The community funded the i46 and i49 fund and that was completely beyond ESEA. The only thing ESEA is doing for us is providing a LAN, but I am not convinced the LAN event is the best thing for TF2 anymore.

And now corrupt admining looks a hell of a lot like the lesser of two evils compared to what ESEA has done with it's client. And I specifically remember every "top" player at the time going all googly-eyed over the big-name CS league taking an interest in TF2.