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Esperanto should be the language of EU competitive
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#121
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AimIsADickT0mAimIsADickHere is a simple greeting message by me in Esperanto: https://ufile.io/vt2l4ocf.Why are you speaking Spanish in this?That is not spanish. omg. you don't know esperanto at all. you didn't even try to comprehend what I said!

That's what someone trying to hide the fact that they're actually speaking Spanish would say

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m][quote=AimIsADick]Here is a simple greeting message by me in Esperanto: https://ufile.io/vt2l4ocf.[/quote]
Why are you speaking Spanish in this?[/quote]
That is not spanish. omg. you don't know esperanto at all. you didn't even try to comprehend what I said![/quote]
That's what someone trying to hide the fact that they're actually speaking Spanish would say
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#122
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AimIsADickdelete_my_accountWhy did you learn Esperanto since you live in the U.S., Esperanto will never replace English in America.
I never said it would replace English in the U.S; you made that up. It will exist alongside English.

And learned it because I live on the fucking internet, where there are lots of multilingual players; and it's was the easiest language around. at the very least that time spend learning it wasn't as big as when I tried to learn Spanish or English.
delete_my_accountSeems like you wasted a year learning language that will never benefit you.
Don't state shit about my life, that you don't even know about! and you don't know shit about our language; you haven't read any of our works; and you make arrogant claims like that, without any evidence. cite evidence, or shut up!

https://samandmax.fandom.com/wiki/Esperanto_Bookstore
^ thats my evidence

in Sam & Max save the world, there is an esperanto bookstore out of business, therefore I can't read any of your works. This also proves Esperanto and English can't coexist in America. You seem obsessed with optimization and saving time but you can't seem to realize you wasted a year (31,556,952,000 milliseconds) of your life learning a language that will never rise to global prominence

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=delete_my_account]Why did you learn Esperanto since you live in the U.S., Esperanto will never replace English in America. [/quote]

I never said it would replace English in the U.S; you made that up. It will exist alongside English.

And learned it because I live on the fucking internet, where there are lots of multilingual players; and it's was the easiest language around. at the very least that time spend learning it wasn't as big as when I tried to learn Spanish or English.

[quote=delete_my_account]Seems like you wasted a year learning language that will never benefit you.[/quote]

Don't state shit about my life, that you don't even know about! and you don't know shit about our language; you haven't read any of our works; and you make arrogant claims like that, without [b][i]any evidence[/i][/b]. [b]cite evidence, or shut up![/b][/quote]


https://samandmax.fandom.com/wiki/Esperanto_Bookstore
^ thats my evidence

in Sam & Max save the world, there is an esperanto bookstore out of business, therefore I can't read any of your works. This also proves Esperanto and English can't coexist in America. You seem obsessed with optimization and saving time but you can't seem to realize you wasted a year (31,556,952,000 milliseconds) of your life learning a language that will never rise to global prominence
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#123
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Comes back and drops two of the best threads that have been on this forum in months. Truly a generational talent.

Comes back and drops two of the best threads that have been on this forum in months. Truly a generational talent.
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#124
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delete_my_accountAimIsADickdelete_my_accountWhy did you learn Esperanto since you live in the U.S., Esperanto will never replace English in America.
I never said it would replace English in the U.S; you made that up. It will exist alongside English.

And learned it because I live on the fucking internet, where there are lots of multilingual players; and it's was the easiest language around. at the very least that time spend learning it wasn't as big as when I tried to learn Spanish or English.
delete_my_accountSeems like you wasted a year learning language that will never benefit you.
Don't state shit about my life, that you don't even know about! and you don't know shit about our language; you haven't read any of our works; and you make arrogant claims like that, without any evidence. cite evidence, or shut up!

https://samandmax.fandom.com/wiki/Esperanto_Bookstore
^ thats my evidence

in Sam & Max save the world, there is an esperanto bookstore out of business, therefore I can't read any of your works.

That's a damn video game. You're a citing a video game world for your evidence?

There exists esperanto bookstores in the real world and online (librejo & Katalogo de UEA & Literaturo).

delete_my_accountThis also proves Esperanto and English can't coexist in America.

Again, it already is. There is a U.S esperanto association.

delete_my_accountYou seem obsessed with optimization and saving time but you can't seem to realize you wasted a year (31,556,952,000 milliseconds) of your life learning a language that will never rise to global prominence

I spent 3 months learning the actual language itself (actually, it really felt like 2 tbh). Right now, I'm not learning the language, but rather using it. I only try to learn a new radical if its actually needed, otherwise, I just use word combination.

I'm really just trying to unlearn habits that came from learning how to comprehend english.

Esperanto already is rising to global prominence, on a quantitative scale sure, but it will make a qualitative difference. a hundred years ago, one man was an esperantist, hundred years later, is now way more (around 1 or 2 million or whatever) esperantists.

I wasn't obsessed, I made a suggestion. (bad wording lol.)

If anything, most foreigners waste a lot of time being forced to learn english, like in China and Japan.

[quote=delete_my_account][quote=AimIsADick][quote=delete_my_account]Why did you learn Esperanto since you live in the U.S., Esperanto will never replace English in America. [/quote]

I never said it would replace English in the U.S; you made that up. It will exist alongside English.

And learned it because I live on the fucking internet, where there are lots of multilingual players; and it's was the easiest language around. at the very least that time spend learning it wasn't as big as when I tried to learn Spanish or English.

[quote=delete_my_account]Seems like you wasted a year learning language that will never benefit you.[/quote]

Don't state shit about my life, that you don't even know about! and you don't know shit about our language; you haven't read any of our works; and you make arrogant claims like that, without [b][i]any evidence[/i][/b]. [b]cite evidence, or shut up![/b][/quote]


https://samandmax.fandom.com/wiki/Esperanto_Bookstore
^ thats my evidence

in Sam & Max save the world, there is an esperanto bookstore out of business, therefore I can't read any of your works.[/quote]

That's a damn video game. You're a citing a video game world for your evidence?

There exists esperanto bookstores in the real world and online ([url=https://www.librejo.com/]librejo[/url] & [url=https://katalogo.uea.org/]Katalogo de UEA[/url] & [url=https://literaturo.weebly.com/]Literaturo[/url]).
[quote=delete_my_account]This also proves Esperanto and English can't coexist in America.[/quote]

Again, it already is. There is a U.S esperanto association.

[quote=delete_my_account]You seem obsessed with optimization and saving time but you can't seem to realize you wasted a year (31,556,952,000 milliseconds) of your life learning a language that will never rise to global prominence[/quote]

I spent 3 months learning the actual language itself (actually, it really felt like 2 tbh). Right now, I'm not learning the [i]language[/i], but rather using it. I only try to learn a new radical if its actually needed, otherwise, I just use word combination.

I'm really just trying to unlearn habits that came from learning how to comprehend english.

Esperanto already is rising to global prominence, on a quantitative scale sure, but it will make a qualitative difference. a hundred years ago, one man was an esperantist, hundred years later, is now way more (around 1 or 2 million or whatever) esperantists.

[s]I wasn't obsessed, I made a suggestion.[/s] (bad wording lol.)

If anything, most foreigners waste a [i]lot[/i] of time being forced to learn english, like in China and Japan.
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#125
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This is some jordan type shit lets fucking go dude

This is some jordan type shit lets fucking go dude
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#126
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https://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/UZcrF_Fh7e2S_nR8QEbzPhZZGDyXxPML7LAwy3i7U18.jpg

[img]https://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/UZcrF_Fh7e2S_nR8QEbzPhZZGDyXxPML7LAwy3i7U18.jpg [/img]
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#127
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if your goal was to communicate with other players why did u learn a language only spoken by one guy you’ve met so far

if your goal was to communicate with other players why did u learn a language only spoken by one guy you’ve met so far
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#128
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WandumThis is some jordan type shit lets fucking go dude

?

[quote=Wandum]This is some jordan type shit lets fucking go dude[/quote]
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#129
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Bold of you to claim that you can comprehend english when you’ve failed to recognize sarcasm or accurately understand people’s arguments like 100+ times on these forums

Bold of you to claim that you can comprehend english when you’ve failed to recognize sarcasm or accurately understand people’s arguments like 100+ times on these forums
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#130
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bearodactylBold of you to claim that you can comprehend english when you’ve failed to recognize sarcasm

Sarcasm requires context ahead of time to be weary of it. and again, i'm already sick of irony poisoning.

bearodactylor accurately understand people’s arguments like 100+ times on these forums

I did understand them. It's they that misunderstand me. and every time you say that stuff, you show little to no evidence of such a thing occurring.

and even then, I apologize afterward now-a-days, so I don't get your fucking problem.

[quote=bearodactyl]Bold of you to claim that you can comprehend english when you’ve failed to recognize sarcasm[/quote]

Sarcasm requires context ahead of time to be weary of it. and again, i'm already sick of irony poisoning.

[quote=bearodactyl]or accurately understand people’s arguments like 100+ times on these forums[/quote]
I did understand them. It's they that misunderstand me. and every time you say that stuff, you show little to no evidence of such a thing occurring.

and even then, I apologize afterward now-a-days, so I don't get your fucking problem.
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#131
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brodyif your goal was to communicate with other players why did u learn a language only spoken by one guy you’ve met so far

you changed the goalposts from "no one speaks it" and "its useless" to, "its just one dude". quite bullshitting. that was using the language then, even if only in a single match; hence it was useful.

but let me use an inverse question: why should Chinese, Africans, and, Japanese be forced to learn English if they're never gonna leave their countries period?

[quote=brody]if your goal was to communicate with other players why did u learn a language only spoken by one guy you’ve met so far[/quote]

you changed the goalposts from "no one speaks it" and "its useless" to, "its just one dude". quite bullshitting. that was using the language then, even if only in a single match; hence it was useful.

but let me use an inverse question: why should Chinese, Africans, and, Japanese be forced to learn English if they're never gonna leave their countries period?
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#132
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bro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages they choose to do so because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people (both of which your meme language is lacking)

u cant actually be dying on this hill that “i was too stupid to learn spanish and also clearly don’t even fully understand english, therefore the entire world should learn this new language that i actually was successful in learning”

this is quite entertaining so i hope you don’t stop posting but for your own sake you might want to just find an esparanto forum or something lol you seem to be getting more and more frustrated/angry (see: increasing use of the word “fucking”) and are pretty much just subjecting yourself to public ridicule at this point (maybe after 5 more pages you will magically convince the entirety of the EU tf2 scene to learn your language but it seems Unlikely)

bro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages they choose to do so because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people (both of which your meme language is lacking)

u cant actually be dying on this hill that “i was too stupid to learn spanish and also clearly don’t even fully understand english, therefore the entire world should learn this new language that i actually was successful in learning”

this is quite entertaining so i hope you don’t stop posting but for your own sake you might want to just find an esparanto forum or something lol you seem to be getting more and more frustrated/angry (see: increasing use of the word “fucking”) and are pretty much just subjecting yourself to public ridicule at this point (maybe after 5 more pages you will magically convince the entirety of the EU tf2 scene to learn your language but it seems Unlikely)
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#133
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bearodactylbro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages

Ahem (they are):

Foreign Language Education system of JapanForeign Language Education

English is a compulsory subject in junior high and high schools. There are also elementary schools that introduce English education from intermediate grade classes. In some high schools, apart from English, students are also allowed to take courses in Chinese, Korean, French, German, etc.
bearodactylso because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people

I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: 330 million. + British population: 67 million.
Chinese population: 1.4 billion.
Indian population: 1.6 billion.

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.

bearodactylu cant actually be dying on this hill that “i was too stupid to learn spanish therefore the entire world should learn this new language that i actually was successful in learning”

There's the ad hominem again... calling people stupid for not learning Spanish or English. again, I am not selfish like that. quit lying. (since, you seem to believe that, where did I say that exactly? cite your sources!)

bearodactyland also clearly don’t even fully understand english,

Once again, no evidence means unsubstantiated claim. and it ain't any better that each responder hasn't properly responded to all of my responses in my replies.

bearodactylthis is quite entertaining so i hope you don’t stop posting but for your own sake you might want to just find an esparanto forum or something lol you seem to be getting more and more frustrated/angry (see: increasing use of the word “fucking”) and are pretty much just subjecting yourself to public ridicule at this point (maybe after 5 more pages you will magically convince the entirety of the EU tf2 scene to learn your language but it seems Unlikely)

I was indeed, because you people can barely even cite a single source for your claims. you, the one person, who used one link, linked your evidence to a video game wiki...

I'm more pissed that I thought so highly of comp players, when they act like this in reality.

[quote=bearodactyl]bro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages[/quote]

Ahem (they are):
[quote=Foreign Language Education system of Japan]
[url=https://education.jnto.go.jp/en/school-in-japan/japanese-education-system/]Foreign Language Education

English is a compulsory subject in junior high and high schools. There are also elementary schools that introduce English education from intermediate grade classes. In some high schools, apart from English, students are also allowed to take courses in Chinese, Korean, French, German, etc.[/url][/quote]

[quote=bearodactyl]so because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people[/quote]

I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: [url=https://www.census.gov/popclock/]330 million.[/url] + British population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/]67 million[/url].
Chinese population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/]1.4 billion.[/url]
Indian population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/]1.6 billion[/url].

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.

[quote=bearodactyl]u cant actually be dying on this hill that “i was too stupid to learn spanish therefore the entire world should learn this new language that i actually was successful in learning”[/quote]
There's the ad hominem again... calling people stupid for not learning Spanish or English. again, I am not selfish like that. quit lying. (since, you seem to believe that, where did I say that exactly? cite your sources!)

[quote=bearodactyl]and also clearly don’t even fully understand english,[/quote]
Once again, no evidence means unsubstantiated claim. and it ain't any better that each responder hasn't properly responded to [b][i]all[/i][/b] of my responses in my replies.

[quote=bearodactyl]this is quite entertaining so i hope you don’t stop posting but for your own sake you might want to just find an esparanto forum or something lol you seem to be getting more and more frustrated/angry (see: increasing use of the word “fucking”) and are pretty much just subjecting yourself to public ridicule at this point (maybe after 5 more pages you will magically convince the entirety of the EU tf2 scene to learn your language but it seems Unlikely)[/quote]

I was indeed, because you people can barely even cite a single source for your claims. you, the one person, who used [i]one[/i] link, linked your evidence to a video game wiki...

I'm more pissed that I thought so highly of comp players, when they act like [i]this[/i] in reality.
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#134
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Just admit it's spanish bro come on now

Just admit it's spanish bro come on now
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#135
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T0mJust admit it's spanish bro come on now

No it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.

Stop fucking lying:
Esperanto grammar: https://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento/gramatiko_angla.html
Spanish grammar: https://studyspanish.com/grammar

[quote=T0m]Just admit it's spanish bro come on now[/quote]
No it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.

Stop fucking lying:
Esperanto grammar: https://www.akademio-de-esperanto.org/fundamento/gramatiko_angla.html
Spanish grammar: https://studyspanish.com/grammar
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#136
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these sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking

these sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking
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#137
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T0mthese sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking

IT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨!

[quote=T0m]these sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking[/quote]
IT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨!
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#138
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AimIsADickT0mJust admit it's spanish bro come on nowNo it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.

least spanish esperanto vocab https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/saludo#Spanish

AimIsADickT0mthese sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speakingIT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨!

I heard, „¡saludo! mi nombre es amikdikt!" What are you talking about dude?

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m]Just admit it's spanish bro come on now[/quote]
No it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.
[/quote]
least spanish esperanto vocab https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/saludo#Spanish

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m]these sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking[/quote]
IT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨![/quote]
I heard, „¡saludo! mi nombre es amikdikt!" What are you talking about dude?
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#139
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toads_tfAimIsADickT0mJust admit it's spanish bro come on nowNo it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.least spanish esperanto vocab https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/saludo#Spanish
AimIsADickT0mthese sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speakingIT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨!
I heard, „¡saludo! mi nombre es amikdikt!" What are you talking about dude?

THAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.

[quote=toads_tf][quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m]Just admit it's spanish bro come on now[/quote]
No it is not! esperanto is not spanish! The hello greeting of spanish is "gracias", not, "saluton" of esperanto.
[/quote]
least spanish esperanto vocab https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/saludo#Spanish

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m]these sources are no way near reliable enough, its clearly spanish what you're speaking[/quote]
IT IS FUCKING NOT! OMFG

What I said is "saluton! mi nomiĝas amikdikt¨![/quote]
I heard, „¡saludo! mi nombre es amikdikt!" What are you talking about dude?[/quote]
THAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.
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#140
3 Frags +
AimIsADickbearodactylbro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages
Ahem (they are): Foreign Language Education system of JapanForeign Language Education

English is a compulsory subject in junior high and high schools. There are also elementary schools that introduce English education from intermediate grade classes. In some high schools, apart from English, students are also allowed to take courses in Chinese, Korean, French, German, etc.
bearodactylso because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people
I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: 330 million. + British population: 67 million.
Chinese population: 1.4 billion.
Indian population: 1.6 billion.

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.

idk why you keep comparing native speaker populations, that doesn't matter when english is the defacto global lingua franca.

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=bearodactyl]bro are u stupid people aren’t forced to learn languages[/quote]

Ahem (they are):
[quote=Foreign Language Education system of Japan]
[url=https://education.jnto.go.jp/en/school-in-japan/japanese-education-system/]Foreign Language Education

English is a compulsory subject in junior high and high schools. There are also elementary schools that introduce English education from intermediate grade classes. In some high schools, apart from English, students are also allowed to take courses in Chinese, Korean, French, German, etc.[/url][/quote]

[quote=bearodactyl]so because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people[/quote]

I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: [url=https://www.census.gov/popclock/]330 million.[/url] + British population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/]67 million[/url].
Chinese population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/]1.4 billion.[/url]
Indian population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/]1.6 billion[/url].

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.
[/quote]

idk why you keep comparing native speaker populations, that doesn't matter when english is the defacto global lingua franca.
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#141
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AimIsADick
I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: 330 million. + British population: 67 million.
Chinese population: 1.4 billion.
Indian population: 1.6 billion.

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.

this is not how you calculate the number of speakers of a language, both ethnologue and the cia world factbook report that english is the most widely spoken language in the world by a large margin.

you also missed his point completely lol. it's not about the total number of speakers in the world, it's about the pool of people you want to talk to. in the tf2 community, this pool is mostly made up of people that speak english, so it's the most useful language to learn

edit: got sniped lol but also i find it really funny that you assumed every american speaks english as their first language. assuming all indians speak the same language is even more egregious

[quote=AimIsADick]

I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: [url=https://www.census.gov/popclock/]330 million.[/url] + British population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/]67 million[/url].
Chinese population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/]1.4 billion.[/url]
Indian population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/]1.6 billion[/url].

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.
[/quote]

this is not how you calculate the number of speakers of a language, both ethnologue and the cia world factbook report that english is the most widely spoken language in the world by a large margin.

you also missed his point completely lol. it's not about the total number of speakers in the world, it's about the pool of people you want to talk to. in the tf2 community, this pool is mostly made up of people that speak english, so it's the most useful language to learn

edit: got sniped lol but also i find it really funny that you assumed every american speaks english as their first language. assuming all indians speak the same language is even more egregious
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#142
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AimIsADickTHAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.

He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish

[quote=AimIsADick]
THAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.[/quote]
He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish
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#143
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T0mAimIsADickTHAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.
He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish

He is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check!

[quote=T0m][quote=AimIsADick]
THAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.[/quote]
He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish[/quote]
He is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check!
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#144
9 Frags +

my spanish mate (we have spanish in europe not esperanto) said ur speaking spanish

my spanish mate (we have spanish in europe not esperanto) said ur speaking spanish
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#145
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AimIsADickHe is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check!

I have listened to the audio at least 8 time and you are very much so speaking spanish

[quote=AimIsADick]
He is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check![/quote]
I have listened to the audio at least 8 time and you are very much so speaking spanish
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#146
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AimIsADickT0mAimIsADickTHAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.
He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish
He is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673716307090210828/1181372276495626240/in-s3e5-chicanery-of-better-call-saul-during-chucks-rant-he-v0-1ok3n0zq0nea1.png?ex=6580d1ab&is=656e5cab&hm=ab662d90bd7c0ef91e30fb159ecdeac33d10cc2f354717b15e492b658db42c76&;

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=T0m][quote=AimIsADick]
THAT IS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID! STOP FUCKING LYING!

And you don't know shit about the language; so stop acting like you're an expert.[/quote]
He isn't lying though you were literally speaking spanish[/quote]
He is lying. I'M NOT! Slow down the audio and reinterpet it again, if you want to check![/quote]

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eddiieeAimIsADick
I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: 330 million. + British population: 67 million.
Chinese population: 1.4 billion.
Indian population: 1.6 billion.

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.

this is not how you calculate the number of speakers of a language,

I know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)

eddiieeboth ethnologue and the cia world factbook report that english is the most widely spoken language in the world by a large margin.

In that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)

Also, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things? The same people that regime change countries to force them to speak English.

eddiieeyou also missed his point completely lol. it's not about the total number of speakers in the world,

So then why did he mention a "larger group of people"?:

bearodactylso because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people

because U.S and Britain citizens aren't as big as Chinese or Indian, even accounting for foreign speakers of english.

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eddiieeit's about the pool of people you want to talk to. in the tf2 community, this pool is mostly made up of people that speak english, so it's the most useful language to learn

Lol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.

eddiieeedit: got sniped lol but also i find it really funny that you assumed every american speaks english as their first language. assuming all indians speak the same language is even more egregious

I didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]

I know you're implying English populations, but:

US population: [url=https://www.census.gov/popclock/]330 million.[/url] + British population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/]67 million[/url].
Chinese population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/]1.4 billion.[/url]
Indian population: [url=https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/]1.6 billion[/url].

Please stop bullshitting out of your ass. lol. by that logic, people would want to learn mandarin more not English.
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this is not how you calculate the number of speakers of a language,[/quote]

I know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)

[quote=eddiiee]both ethnologue and the cia world factbook report that english is the most widely spoken language in the world by a large margin.[/quote]

In that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)

Also, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things? The same people that regime change countries to force them to speak English.

[quote=eddiiee]you also missed his point completely lol. it's not about the total number of speakers in the world,[/quote]

So then why did he mention a "larger group of people"?:

[quote=bearodactyl]so because of its utility in understanding popular culture or communicating with a larger group of people[/quote]

because U.S and Britain citizens aren't as big as Chinese or Indian, even accounting for foreign speakers of english.

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[quote=eddiiee]it's about the pool of people you want to talk to. in the tf2 community, this pool is mostly made up of people that speak english, so it's the most useful language to learn[/quote]

Lol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.

[quote=eddiiee]edit: got sniped lol but also i find it really funny that you assumed every american speaks english as their first language. assuming all indians speak the same language is even more egregious[/quote]

I didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.
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AimIsADickI know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)

Your reply is wrong and irrelevant in any context you read his post

AimIsADickIn that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)

I provided a source and the list of most spoken languages is very easy to find on the site (took me under 20 seconds blind). Please attempt to check sources yourself before disputing them

AimIsADickAlso, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things?

The CIA World Factbook is a very reliable and highly regarded source

AimIsADickSo then why did he mention a "larger group of people"

A larger group of people does not necessarily refer to the entire population of the world, as you quoted me saying. You need to read posts before replying to them

AimIsADickLol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.

I said nothing about tf2 youtubers. Again, please read posts before replying to them

AimIsADickI didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.

Yes you did

Also, could you please provide a sample of you speaking Esperanto? You're speaking Spanish in the link you provided and it makes me doubt your honesty :\

[quote=AimIsADick]
I know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)[/quote]

Your reply is wrong and irrelevant in any context you read his post

[quote=AimIsADick]
In that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)[/quote]

I provided a source and the list of most spoken languages is very easy to find on the site (took me under 20 seconds blind). Please attempt to check sources yourself before disputing them

[quote=AimIsADick]
Also, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things?[/quote]

The CIA World Factbook is a very reliable and highly regarded source

[quote=AimIsADick]So then why did he mention a "larger group of people"[/quote]

A larger group of people does not necessarily refer to the entire population of the world, as you quoted me saying. You need to read posts before replying to them

[quote=AimIsADick]Lol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.[/quote]

I said nothing about tf2 youtubers. Again, please read posts before replying to them

[quote=AimIsADick]I didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.[/quote]

Yes you did

Also, could you please provide a sample of you speaking Esperanto? You're speaking Spanish in the link you provided and it makes me doubt your honesty :\
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#149
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eddiieeAimIsADickI know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)
Your reply is wrong and irrelevant in any context you read his post

Well that isn't fair at all. This is so immature. So you refuse to fairly setup any legitimate criteria. and you wonder why casual players hate y'all so much.

eddiieeAimIsADickIn that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)

I provided a source and the list of most spoken languages is very easy to find on the site (took me under 20 seconds blind). Please attempt to check sources yourself before disputing them

Well where is it then, if I'm supposedly so stupid?

eddiieeAimIsADickAlso, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things?
The CIA World Factbook is a very reliable and highly regarded source

Unfortunately, for political text, it is. but you're trusting the U.S government here of all things; the same government imposing English everywhere.

eddiieeAimIsADickSo then why did he mention a "larger group of people"
A larger group of people does not necessarily refer to the entire population of the world, as you quoted me saying.

I didn't refer to the entire world population. I thought of the U.S and British POPULATION.

AimIsADickI know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)

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eddiieeYou need to read posts before replying to them

I FUCKING AM!!!

eddiieeAimIsADickLol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.
I said nothing about tf2 youtubers. Again, please read posts before replying to them.

I didn't think you did. I was just thinking of most of the english tf2 youtube sphere, which is god awful.

eddiieeAimIsADickI didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.
Yes you did

Stop fucking lying. I did not.

eddiieeAlso, could you please provide a sample of you speaking Esperanto? You're speaking Spanish in the link you provided and it makes me doubt your honesty

I AM NOT SPEAKING SPANISH OMFG!

I'll record another audio, because that one isn't working; it will be very slow. if You accuse me of fucking lying again, then its the last one I am producing.

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]
I know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of [b]English citizens, not speakers.[/b] (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)[/quote]

Your reply is wrong and irrelevant in any context you read his post[/quote]

Well that isn't fair at all. This is so immature. So you refuse to fairly setup any legitimate criteria. and you wonder why casual players hate y'all so much.

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]
In that case, where exactly did you get that info? From what I checked on the site:
* Mandarin: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/cmn/
* English: https://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng/

Uh, both say more than 1 billion, so I can't tell which is more popular; but either way, I don't see any of their sources. (and btw see this about ethnolouge: I can't pay for their database https://www.science.org/content/article/world-s-largest-linguistics-database-getting-too-expensive-some-researchers.)[/quote]

I provided a source and the list of most spoken languages is very easy to find on the site (took me under 20 seconds blind). Please attempt to check sources yourself before disputing them[/quote]

Well where is it then, if I'm supposedly so stupid?

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]
Also, did you seriously quote the CIA of all things?[/quote]

The CIA World Factbook is a very reliable and highly regarded source[/quote]

Unfortunately, for political text, it is. but you're trusting the U.S government here of all things; the same government imposing English everywhere.

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]So then why did he mention a "larger group of people"[/quote]

A larger group of people does not necessarily refer to the entire population of the world, as you quoted me saying.[/quote]

I didn't refer to the entire world population. I thought of the U.S and British POPULATION.

[quote=AimIsADick][url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1090146/esperanto-should-be-the-language-of-eu-competitive]I know, but the dude was referring to a specific group, I contextually thought it was of English citizens, not speakers. (and here is another example where context isn't everything!)[/url][/quote]

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[quote=eddiiee]You need to read posts before replying to them[/quote]

I FUCKING AM!!!

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]Lol no. most English tf2 youtubers are absolute garbage.[/quote]

I said nothing about tf2 youtubers. Again, please read posts before replying to them.[/quote]

I didn't think you did. I was just thinking of most of the english tf2 youtube sphere, which is god awful.

[quote=eddiiee][quote=AimIsADick]I didn't assume those demographics, spoke one language. I just included them because of them are not speaking english, but another language instead.[/quote]

Yes you did[/quote]

Stop fucking lying. I did not.

[quote=eddiiee]Also, could you please provide a sample of you speaking Esperanto? You're speaking Spanish in the link you provided and it makes me doubt your honesty[/quote]
I AM NOT SPEAKING SPANISH OMFG!

I'll record another audio, because that one isn't working; it will be very slow. if You accuse me of fucking lying again, then its the last one I am producing.
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Also:

Claude PironI believe that a scientific, scholarly approach is as warranted in linguistics as in other fields. Many linguists seem to be unaware that before spreading opinions on Esperanto, it is worth taking one's tape recorder, attending encounters of speakers of the language, visiting families where it is in daily use, analyzing the tapes and all kinds of published or written documents (handwritten correspondence is linguistically quite interesting) and, well, just behave as a proper linguistic scholar does for any Bantu or Filipino language.

The amount of untruths to be found in linguistic publications on Esperanto (as on Chinese) is appalling. All the more so since they're formulated in good faith. Isn't it an interesting socio-psychological phenomenon?
Also: [quote=Claude Piron][url=http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/why.htm]I believe that a scientific, scholarly approach is as warranted in linguistics as in other fields. Many linguists seem to be unaware that before spreading opinions on Esperanto, it is worth taking one's tape recorder, attending encounters of speakers of the language, visiting families where it is in daily use, analyzing the tapes and all kinds of published or written documents (handwritten correspondence is linguistically quite interesting) and, well, just behave as a proper linguistic scholar does for any Bantu or Filipino language.

The amount of untruths to be found in linguistic publications on Esperanto (as on Chinese) is appalling. All the more so since they're formulated in good faith. Isn't it an interesting socio-psychological phenomenon?[/url][/quote]
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