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**First and foremost, I would like to emphasize that this forum post is for the primary purpose of open discussion and the hopes of corrective action regarding the recent bans of Faris and R4bbit. I am NOT writing this forum post for the purpose of witch hunting RGL Staff, rather I write this to point out some of their careless mistakes. This post does NOT condone the trolling done on RGL Forums or any actions previously done.**

**Furthermore, I ask that anyone who opposes the actions taken by the RGL Staff regarding this situation to remain respectful and composed when commenting on this post so as to not bring cause for it to be deleted. Thank you.**

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**FOR CONTEXT:** If you are currently unaware with the drama circling around RGL lately, I advise you to read the Maggie TFTV thread and the BBL Forum Post for information, as that will not be this posts primary focus.

Today on Monday September 9th, 2024, both Faris and r4bbit have been banned indefinitely for 1 year. For anyone who is new to RGL or unfamiliar with either player, both Faris and R4bbit are Main/Adv Highlander players well regarded within the community, neither of which have any disciplinary history. Both players were banned for posting the "Which Chipmunk is getting the best head?" shitpost on the Galaxy LFT. The reason behind the ban stated by RGL is *"Posting NSFW Content depicting underage characters to harass player(s) on the RGL Forums."* (Keep in mind, there were no people depicted in these images. They are literal chipmunks.) For comparison, reading off the ban history of players Maggie (aka aryanne) and Adam (who sexually assaulted someone) you can note that not only do these ban reasons seem less alarming, Maggie's ban has yet to have actually happened. The bans on Faris and R4bbit scream hypocrisy. These two players with no disciplinary history have been slandered as predators, while Maggie, someone who has been revealed to possess some extremely disturbing behavior such as using profile pictures from a questionable game (more details in the TFTV thread linked above), has been seemingly protected by staff, receiving only a temporary probation with no reasoning for the investigation stated on their RGL profile. What both Faris and R4bbit did lacked severity, but the staff decided to ban both of these players from everything RGL related for an entire year while including a misleading ban reason, instead of their original two week forum ban they had initially received. This ultimately comes off incredibly spiteful.

The actions taken by the RGL staff towards this entire situation has highlighted their incompetence and immaturity. It feels as though RGL staff is dramatizing what R4bbit and Faris did in order to deliberately defame and tarnish their character, practically ruining their reputations in the eyes of the community. The inconsistency of stated ban reasonings on the official RGL website indicate a weak or even baseless procedure of enforcing discipline towards players. The staff also seems to have a hard time taking criticism, as multiple people have been either muted or outright banned from the RGL discord and forums for trying to point out their ineptitude. The most notable example of this is Mothership. In response to the discussions arising on the forums and RGL discussions, he seemed unable to take any criticism on the Maggie situation and instead silenced those who spoke about the topic. In fact, looking over what Mothership has said on the topic up until this point, it seems as though he would rather defend a predator than give people a proper platform to speak.

I believe the best way to resolve this situation is to remove the ban reasons stated on both of their profiles at absolute minimum. Since both of these players have a lack of disciplinary history they should have their bans removed, however, since I do not see that happening I believe RGL should lower the ban time. Moving forward, I believe the staff needs to find better ways to deal with their community. Allowing players a platform to speak in this league is very important because without the players there is no league. I hope moving forward that the staff can try to bridge the gap between themselves and the player base.

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**Below are statements given to me by both Faris and R4bbit regarding this situation**

*"I apologize for the distress I caused by posting the Alvin meme on the forums. I understand why I was banned from said forums, however, I believe that the league ban was excessive. For one, I’d like to point to my lack of disciplinary history in all four years that I’ve been in RGL. I’ve been a relatively harmless individual in the community who’s never had malicious intentions nor expressed anything particularly malicious to my fellow community members. The meme I posted is a one-time instance of me partaking in trolling. Also, I’d like to highlight that the ban reason attached to my sentence has very severe implications and casts a negative and misconstrued light on what really happened. One, it paints me as a predator when I am not and have never been. It also gives the wrong impression to people who have never interacted with me prior by perpetuating a false image of who I am."* - Faris

*"I have been playing the game for RGL as far as I can remember. I have made many friends on my path to becoming a part of the community. I'm overall just weirded and confused by the recent actions of RGL head that let a community turn against them and have made no public effort to become more open other than constant blank lies. I think the best days of RGL are long behind, and I will miss the players if my ban is not revoked."* - r4bbit

**First and foremost, I would like to emphasize that this forum post is for the primary purpose of open discussion and the hopes of corrective action regarding the recent bans of Faris and R4bbit. I am NOT writing this forum post for the purpose of witch hunting RGL Staff, rather I write this to point out some of their careless mistakes. This post does NOT condone the trolling done on RGL Forums or any actions previously done.**

**Furthermore, I ask that anyone who opposes the actions taken by the RGL Staff regarding this situation to remain respectful and composed when commenting on this post so as to not bring cause for it to be deleted. Thank you.**

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**FOR CONTEXT:** If you are currently unaware with the drama circling around RGL lately, I advise you to read the [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/64912/pedophile-nazi-brony-moron]Maggie TFTV thread[/url] and the [url=https://forums.rgl.gg/topic/3769/a-discussion-on-how-to-have-better-communication-between-staff-and-player]BBL Forum Post[/url] for information, as that will not be this posts primary focus.

Today on Monday September 9th, 2024, both [url=ttps://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198056710131&r=24]Faris[/url] and [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198299604510]r4bbit[/url] have been banned indefinitely for 1 year. For anyone who is new to RGL or unfamiliar with either player, both Faris and R4bbit are Main/Adv Highlander players well regarded within the community, neither of which have any disciplinary history. Both players were banned for posting the "Which Chipmunk is getting the best head?" shitpost on the Galaxy LFT. The reason behind the ban stated by RGL is *"Posting NSFW Content depicting underage characters to harass player(s) on the RGL Forums."* (Keep in mind, there were no people depicted in these images. They are literal chipmunks.) For comparison, reading off the ban history of players [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198066977500&r=24]Maggie (aka aryanne)[/url] and [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198149048490&r=24]Adam[/url] (who sexually assaulted someone) you can note that not only do these ban reasons seem less alarming, Maggie's ban has yet to have actually happened. The bans on Faris and R4bbit scream hypocrisy. These two players with no disciplinary history have been slandered as predators, while Maggie, someone who has been revealed to possess some extremely disturbing behavior such as using profile pictures from a questionable game (more details in the TFTV thread linked above), has been seemingly protected by staff, receiving only a temporary probation with no reasoning for the investigation stated on their RGL profile. What both Faris and R4bbit did lacked severity, but the staff decided to ban both of these players from everything RGL related for an entire year while including a misleading ban reason, instead of their original two week forum ban they had initially received. This ultimately comes off incredibly spiteful.

The actions taken by the RGL staff towards this entire situation has highlighted their incompetence and immaturity. It feels as though RGL staff is dramatizing what R4bbit and Faris did in order to deliberately defame and tarnish their character, practically ruining their reputations in the eyes of the community. The inconsistency of stated ban reasonings on the official RGL website indicate a weak or even baseless procedure of enforcing discipline towards players. The staff also seems to have a hard time taking criticism, as multiple people have been either muted or outright banned from the RGL discord and forums for trying to point out their ineptitude. The most notable example of this is Mothership. In response to the discussions arising on the forums and RGL discussions, he seemed unable to take any criticism on the Maggie situation and instead silenced those who spoke about the topic. In fact, looking over what Mothership has said on the topic up until this point, it seems as though he would rather defend a predator than give people a proper platform to speak.

I believe the best way to resolve this situation is to remove the ban reasons stated on both of their profiles at absolute minimum. Since both of these players have a lack of disciplinary history they should have their bans removed, however, since I do not see that happening I believe RGL should lower the ban time. Moving forward, I believe the staff needs to find better ways to deal with their community. Allowing players a platform to speak in this league is very important because without the players there is no league. I hope moving forward that the staff can try to bridge the gap between themselves and the player base.

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**Below are statements given to me by both Faris and R4bbit regarding this situation**


*"I apologize for the distress I caused by posting the Alvin meme on the forums. I understand why I was banned from said forums, however, I believe that the league ban was excessive. For one, I’d like to point to my lack of disciplinary history in all four years that I’ve been in RGL. I’ve been a relatively harmless individual in the community who’s never had malicious intentions nor expressed anything particularly malicious to my fellow community members. The meme I posted is a one-time instance of me partaking in trolling. Also, I’d like to highlight that the ban reason attached to my sentence has very severe implications and casts a negative and misconstrued light on what really happened. One, it paints me as a predator when I am not and have never been. It also gives the wrong impression to people who have never interacted with me prior by perpetuating a false image of who I am."* - [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198056710131&r=24]Faris[/url]

*"I have been playing the game for RGL as far as I can remember. I have made many friends on my path to becoming a part of the community. I'm overall just weirded and confused by the recent actions of RGL head that let a community turn against them and have made no public effort to become more open other than constant blank lies. I think the best days of RGL are long behind, and I will miss the players if my ban is not revoked."* - [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198299604510]r4bbit[/url]
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adolf chudler

adolf chudler
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#3
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https://avatars.akamai.steamstatic.com/2f80606e862956e4de2e391ecb7ad0bc4db4e4fb_full.jpg

[img]https://avatars.akamai.steamstatic.com/2f80606e862956e4de2e391ecb7ad0bc4db4e4fb_full.jpg[/img]
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#4
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These mf's got the most detailed ban reason ever meanwhile Diddle Dee and Diddle Dum just get "Breaking RGL's player code of conduct" like what

These mf's got the most detailed ban reason ever meanwhile Diddle Dee and Diddle Dum just get "Breaking RGL's player code of conduct" like what
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#5
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if rgl thinks that cartoon chipmunks are being sexualized, they'd surely ban a lolicon for the same reasons, right?

if rgl thinks that cartoon chipmunks are being sexualized, they'd surely ban a lolicon for the same reasons, right?
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Just remember that the (now former) head forum mod posted shit like this. Don't google Mami Tomoe age, worst mistake of my life.

Just remember that the (now former) head forum mod posted shit like [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233624933989355531/1280914136737255495/togif.gif?ex=66e06740&is=66df15c0&hm=71eb299acdc1e2d74a18544af7d00fd85406cac79172865fad45db9b1df4d9c4&]this[/url]. Don't google Mami Tomoe age, worst mistake of my life.
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#7
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RGL has always had their priorities messed up.

RGL has always had their priorities messed up.
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#8
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There's a world where a potential employer sees this ban reason (which is not unprecedented, see: alfa) and chooses not to hire or fires these players for this. Thus literally opening RGL up to actual legal liability over the fucking alvin and the chipmunks getting head meme.

Just insanely stupid decision making from the admin team, I can't even fathom how this was greenlighted when they specifically do not use the word pedophilia in any ACTUAL pedophile's ban reasons.

There's a world where a potential employer sees this ban reason (which is not unprecedented, see: alfa) and chooses not to hire or fires these players for this. Thus literally opening RGL up to actual legal liability over the fucking alvin and the chipmunks getting head meme.

Just insanely stupid decision making from the admin team, I can't even fathom how this was greenlighted when they specifically do not use the word pedophilia in any ACTUAL pedophile's ban reasons.
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#9
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I really hope that this is the work of some rogue admin because this is an absolutely insane decision and whoever made it should never, ever be in power again

I really hope that this is the work of some rogue admin because this is an absolutely insane decision and whoever made it should never, ever be in power again
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it’s funny how they felt the need to specify that the content involved minors and didn’t just give them the obligatory nursery ban. Even the actual nonces are treated nicer.

All of this over a 2019 meme.

it’s funny how they felt the need to specify that the content involved minors and didn’t just give them the obligatory nursery ban. Even the actual nonces are treated nicer.

All of this over a 2019 meme.
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At first I saw this thread and assumed it was a shitpost because “evil rgl by adolf_chudler” definitely sounds like one, seriously wish it was just that. Thank you rgl for protecting your players, because surely a half decade old non-explicit meme is “depicting minors” or whatever. Wish y’all would put this much effort into the ban reasons for actual threats in this community, new players see “Breaking RGL’s code of conduct” and have no fucking idea what that means, as evident by the fact that Nursey has been seen ringing for newer players on multiple occasions. Really cool of y’all, at least fucking update the ban reason for these players to not be so vilifying, y’all literally changed Nursey’s ban reason from “Sexual misconduct with a minor” to “Breaking RGL’s code of conduct” and that vile human being doesn’t deserve to have their sins hidden from the world.

At first I saw this thread and assumed it was a shitpost because “evil rgl by adolf_chudler” definitely sounds like one, seriously wish it was just that. Thank you rgl for protecting your players, because surely a half decade old non-explicit meme is “depicting minors” or whatever. Wish y’all would put this much effort into the ban reasons for actual threats in this community, new players see “Breaking RGL’s code of conduct” and have no fucking idea what that means, as evident by the fact that Nursey has been seen ringing for newer players on multiple occasions. Really cool of y’all, at least fucking update the ban reason for these players to not be so vilifying, y’all literally changed Nursey’s ban reason from “Sexual misconduct with a minor” to “Breaking RGL’s code of conduct” and that vile human being doesn’t deserve to have their sins hidden from the world.
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excellent work

excellent work
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https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198066977500 later_scrub

https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198066977500 later_scrub
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HornetJust remember that the (now former) head forum mod posted shit like this. Don't google Mami Tomoe age, worst mistake of my life.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/jtliaaom4MQAAAAd/clueless-aware.gif

[quote=Hornet]Just remember that the (now former) head forum mod posted shit like [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233624933989355531/1280914136737255495/togif.gif?ex=66e06740&is=66df15c0&hm=71eb299acdc1e2d74a18544af7d00fd85406cac79172865fad45db9b1df4d9c4&]this[/url]. Don't google Mami Tomoe age, worst mistake of my life.[/quote]
[img]https://media1.tenor.com/m/jtliaaom4MQAAAAd/clueless-aware.gif[/img]
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what if the players just have bad vibes? or they’re just unpleasant to be around?

what if the players just have bad vibes? or they’re just unpleasant to be around?
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#16
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RGL changed the ban reason for Pedophiles because they were looking to get sponsored and were afraid that it would impact that.

RGL changed the ban reason for Pedophiles because they were looking to get sponsored and were afraid that it would impact that.
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#17
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Darkevilrapist and Adolf Chudler are the real heroes

Darkevilrapist and Adolf Chudler are the real heroes
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Comedic overreaction with these bans along with reasoning that completely misrepresents what happened. RGL couldn't just ban the pedophile nazi, they had to sour what would be a positive reaction from the community with more evidence that the administration is, at best, out of touch with the community, if not outright vindictive towards these players.

Comedic overreaction with these bans along with reasoning that completely misrepresents what happened. RGL couldn't just ban the pedophile nazi, they had to sour what would be a positive reaction from the community with more evidence that the administration is, at best, out of touch with the community, if not outright vindictive towards these players.
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I literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discord on their account and that was 3 months. Either need admins to upgrade to brains with wrinkles or get new admins tbh.

I literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discord on their account and that was 3 months. Either need admins to upgrade to brains with wrinkles or get new admins tbh.
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PantherrrI literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discord

why did u do that

[quote=Pantherrr]I literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discord[/quote]
why did u do that
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brodyPantherrrI literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discordwhy did u do that

galaxy

[quote=brody][quote=Pantherrr]I literally remote controlled another player’s computer and spammed slurs in the RGL discord[/quote]
why did u do that[/quote]
galaxy
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when i read faris and r4bbit's ban reason i thought they were posting cp on the forums, that ban message is incredibly dangerous to just throw at people given most tf2 players dont exactly have what you could call opsec.

there are more than enough vigilantes online looking to ruin the lives of anyone marked as a predator, especially when that distinction is given to them by a "reputable" organization such as RGL.

when i read faris and r4bbit's ban reason i thought they were posting cp on the forums, that ban message is incredibly dangerous to just throw at people given most tf2 players dont exactly have what you could call opsec.

there are more than enough vigilantes online looking to ruin the lives of anyone marked as a predator, especially when that distinction is given to them by a "reputable" organization such as RGL.
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https://i.imgur.com/kiHWuZm.png

we did it reddit

https://i.imgur.com/Bl4gp4R.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kiHWuZm.png[/img]
we did it reddit
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Bl4gp4R.png[/img]
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MarioManzhttps://i.imgur.com/kiHWuZm.png
we did it reddit
https://i.imgur.com/Bl4gp4R.png

https://imgur.com/a/pF8KAG0

[quote=MarioManz][img]https://i.imgur.com/kiHWuZm.png[/img]
we did it reddit
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Bl4gp4R.png[/img][/quote]
https://imgur.com/a/pF8KAG0
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#25
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btw more than a week later these guys (who have played 4 and 6 years without any ban history in rgl) still have a year long ban with a reason implying they're pedophiles for posting a "whos getting the best head" meme!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673716307090210828/1285666210004074537/image.png?ex=66eb1976&is=66e9c7f6&hm=0098bce5a76dab4adf8b2ff1635c33b6924cd4da99e489735d778d6ef646bbcd&;

it's the second result on google images for "alvin and the chipmunks meme" but if you post it you're a pedo

btw more than a week later these guys (who have played 4 and 6 years without any ban history in rgl) still have a year long ban with a reason implying they're pedophiles for posting a "whos getting the best head" meme! [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673716307090210828/1285666210004074537/image.png?ex=66eb1976&is=66e9c7f6&hm=0098bce5a76dab4adf8b2ff1635c33b6924cd4da99e489735d778d6ef646bbcd&[/img]
it's the second result on google images for "alvin and the chipmunks meme" but if you post it you're a pedo
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you actively have to try and carry out moderation this badly like holy shit

you actively have to try and carry out moderation this badly like holy shit
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eddiieebtw more than a week later these guys (who have played 4 and 6 years without any ban history in rgl) still have a year long ban with a reason implying they're pedophiles for posting a "whos getting the best head" meme! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673716307090210828/1285666210004074537/image.png?ex=66eb1976&is=66e9c7f6&hm=0098bce5a76dab4adf8b2ff1635c33b6924cd4da99e489735d778d6ef646bbcd&;
it's the second result on google images for "alvin and the chipmunks meme" but if you post it you're a pedo

Hold It There Buddy! You Can’t Be Posting That Here, RGL.gg Prohibits Sexually Explicit Material Depicting Minors!!!

https://imgur.com/a/chBQvhZ

[quote=eddiiee]btw more than a week later these guys (who have played 4 and 6 years without any ban history in rgl) still have a year long ban with a reason implying they're pedophiles for posting a "whos getting the best head" meme! [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673716307090210828/1285666210004074537/image.png?ex=66eb1976&is=66e9c7f6&hm=0098bce5a76dab4adf8b2ff1635c33b6924cd4da99e489735d778d6ef646bbcd&[/img]
it's the second result on google images for "alvin and the chipmunks meme" but if you post it you're a pedo[/quote]
Hold It There Buddy! You Can’t Be Posting That Here, RGL.gg Prohibits Sexually Explicit Material Depicting Minors!!!

https://imgur.com/a/chBQvhZ
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#28
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Sy got banned back in early 2022 for "Player harassment; distributing explicit images of another player." with a previous slur ban and only got a 6 month minimum ban. He then 2 years later while he was ON PROBATION he was banned for "Making unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks towards RGL player(s)" and got a 3 month minimum.

Faris and R4bbit post the alvin and the chipmunks meme on the forums and get a 12 month minimum with no punishment history.

GG GO NEXT!

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561199089196165&r=24]Sy[/url] got banned back in early 2022 for "Player harassment; distributing explicit images of another player." with a previous slur ban and only got a 6 month minimum ban. He then 2 years later while he was ON PROBATION he was banned for "Making unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks towards RGL player(s)" and got a 3 month minimum.

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198056710131&r=24]Faris[/url] and [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198299604510&r=24]R4bbit [/url] post the alvin and the chipmunks meme on the forums and get a 12 month minimum with no punishment history.

GG GO NEXT!
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Forgiveness and understanding from the playerbase can only be reached when you admit that you have a problem or have made a mistake. RGL has had this problem for years on end where they make inconsistent bans, refuse to acknowledge or take responsibility; instead opting to keep silent and sitting on the outrage.

When it comes to cheating (see cukei/sampha), there are instances where the cheating became so blatant that RGL swiftly banned cukei in just under 8 months and sampha in a mere 3 months, after numerous reports and outcry in both player's case. Where, in this time, an entire DIVISION can be affected (meaning ten's of players), RGL would rather bide their time, instead of being more proactive and issuing a temporary ban until these conclusions were sorted out (worse comes to worst, you unban them and give a well meaning apology).

On the other hand, you have faris and r4bbit, who innocuously post a meme on Galaxy's LFT, someone who I'm sure is more likely to cringe at these posts rather than be offended or negatively impacted. They were promptly banned 2 weeks later. I'm sure that absolutely nobody was aware of this situation, before they were banned, because this incident happened on the RGL forums. It's because of incidents like this and the formerly egregious moderation by Mothership that the RGL forums' quest for serious discussion is taken anything but seriously.

I understand that there are different teams for the AC and RGL itself (not sure if/how the forums are a separate team of their own from the league). However, this lack of transparency whilst giving players more and more reasons to stop playing your league isn't going to help. If RGL is going to be proactive about bans, they should also be proactive about adjusting the ban/unbanning players if they (inevitably) make the wrong decision.

Forgiveness and understanding from the playerbase can only be reached when you admit that you have a problem or have made a mistake. RGL has had this problem for years on end where they make inconsistent bans, refuse to acknowledge or take responsibility; instead opting to keep silent and sitting on the outrage.

When it comes to cheating (see cukei/sampha), there are instances where the cheating became so blatant that RGL swiftly banned cukei in [b]just under 8 months[/b] and sampha in a mere [b]3 months[/b], after numerous reports and outcry in both player's case. Where, in this time, an entire DIVISION can be affected (meaning ten's of players), RGL would rather bide their time, instead of being more proactive and issuing a temporary ban until these conclusions were sorted out (worse comes to worst, you unban them and give a well meaning apology).

On the other hand, you have faris and r4bbit, who innocuously post a meme on Galaxy's LFT, someone who I'm sure is more likely to cringe at these posts rather than be offended or negatively impacted. They were promptly banned [b]2 weeks later[/b]. I'm sure that absolutely nobody was aware of this situation, before they were banned, because this incident happened on the RGL forums. It's because of incidents like this and the formerly egregious moderation by Mothership that the RGL forums' quest for serious discussion is taken anything but seriously.

I understand that there are different teams for the AC and RGL itself (not sure if/how the forums are a separate team of their own from the league). However, this lack of transparency whilst giving players more and more reasons to stop playing your league isn't going to help. If RGL is going to be proactive about bans, they should also be proactive about adjusting the ban/unbanning players if they (inevitably) make the wrong decision.
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#30
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Idk why this needs to be said but instead of banning people out of the blue, people should be (warned) for things.

In ESEA if a team tried to make their team name something edgy that was over the line, tri would just tell them "hey you need to change it", working with the players and being forgiving/less strict with banning people means players are happier and drama is avoided

In RGL on the other hand, if someone is deemed to have crossed the line the ban hammer comes down instantly, without any warning, or discussion with the player. Teach people the rules instead of punishing them for not understanding them. If RGL never did things out of the blue and gave warnings/were more lenient about stuff, the majority of these threads/drama would be avoided.

For this case in particular it's so braindead simple, just delete the post if it's a problem, tftv nukes posts all the time but i dont think ive ever seen a thread on this site for someone getting wrongfully banned, cause the admins are (correctly) hesitant to punish people. And if they did make a mistake and have public backlash, they wouldn't die on their hills, that's just poor management being at odds with the community so often (okay enigma did go power crazy that one time but that was the exception)

At the very worst they should be temporarily banned from the forums, if someone posted that shit on tftv nobody would care at all, it's just unlucky that hl players I guess have to use RGL forums (this is like banning someone from RGL because they troll or otherwise get temp banned from pugs, shit should be totally separate).

Idk why this needs to be said but instead of banning people out of the blue, people should be (warned) for things.

In ESEA if a team tried to make their team name something edgy that was over the line, tri would just tell them "hey you need to change it", working with the players and being forgiving/less strict with banning people means players are happier and drama is avoided

In RGL on the other hand, if someone is deemed to have crossed the line the ban hammer comes down instantly, without any warning, or discussion with the player. Teach people the rules instead of punishing them for not understanding them. If RGL never did things out of the blue and gave warnings/were more lenient about stuff, the majority of these threads/drama would be avoided.

For this case in particular it's so braindead simple, just delete the post if it's a problem, tftv nukes posts all the time but i dont think ive ever seen a thread on this site for someone getting wrongfully banned, cause the admins are (correctly) hesitant to punish people. And if they did make a mistake and have public backlash, they wouldn't die on their hills, that's just poor management being at odds with the community so often (okay enigma did go power crazy that one time but that was the exception)

At the very worst they should be temporarily banned from the forums, if someone posted that shit on tftv nobody would care at all, it's just unlucky that hl players I guess have to use RGL forums (this is like banning someone from RGL because they troll or otherwise get temp banned from pugs, shit should be totally separate).
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