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Frag Clips Thread
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6781
#6781
-27 Frags +
kyaaReeroyo i feel bad keylime getting -fragged for the guy in his video despite him being a good editorI think it got downfragged because no one can tell whats going on in the video due to it being so over edited

if you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorry

[quote=kyaa][quote=Reero]yo i feel bad keylime getting -fragged for the guy in his video despite him being a good editor[/quote]
I think it got downfragged because no one can tell whats going on in the video due to it being so over edited[/quote]

if you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorry
6782
#6782
21 Frags +
Cyanicif you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorry

no killfeed, fuckton of particles and 30 fps. had to replay multiple parts to see whether there was a kill or no
yea, definitely brain damage

[quote=Cyanic]if you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorry[/quote]
no killfeed, fuckton of particles and 30 fps. had to replay multiple parts to see whether there was a kill or no
yea, definitely brain damage
6783
#6783
-20 Frags +
RockzCyanicif you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorryno killfeed, fuckton of particles and 30 fps. had to replay multiple parts to see whether there was a kill or no
yea, definitely brain damage

i just dont get it. its perfectly clear to me. also the hate edits get on tftv is pretty unwarranted imo

[quote=Rockz][quote=Cyanic]if you "cant see whats happening" you have brain damage sorry[/quote]
no killfeed, fuckton of particles and 30 fps. had to replay multiple parts to see whether there was a kill or no
yea, definitely brain damage[/quote]

i just dont get it. its perfectly clear to me. also the hate edits get on tftv is pretty unwarranted imo
6784
#6784
20 Frags +

I'd rather not derail this thread much more than it already is, but the main thing for me in klm's fragvid was the strange pace of the clips at times and the poor quality of them. The edit itself isn't my style but I wouldn't say it's a bad edit and klm definitely has an idea of how to do shit.

What I mean with the pace/quality is stuff like 0:27 where there's a 10 second clip of slicerogue missing rockets and then hitting 1 mediocre direct. Next clip is just an arrow saving a demo on blands mid. Also not very impressive. Though not a bad play 99% of people wouldn't consider that worthy of putting in an edit. There's more clips like that, but I'm not going to make a lame list. There's definitely some alright clips in there though.

I don't want to bash klm or slicerogue with this nerd essay, but they both fucked up not really taking into account the minimum standard for today's comp community. klm is a capable editor, slicerogue has enough competitive experience to pick decent clips so not sure how that thing was created

edit: to klm and slicerogue I'd say that they need to rethink how to go about gathering and pacing clips. Could draw some valuable lessons from it and produce a way better result in the future. The video might not have been well received but hopefully it doesn't discourage you too much to improve and gather feedback

I'd rather not derail this thread much more than it already is, but the main thing for me in klm's fragvid was the strange pace of the clips at times and the poor quality of them. The edit itself isn't my style but I wouldn't say it's a bad edit and klm definitely has an idea of how to do shit.

What I mean with the pace/quality is stuff like 0:27 where there's a 10 second clip of slicerogue missing rockets and then hitting 1 mediocre direct. Next clip is just an arrow saving a demo on blands mid. Also not very impressive. Though not a bad play 99% of people wouldn't consider that worthy of putting in an edit. There's more clips like that, but I'm not going to make a lame list. There's definitely some alright clips in there though.

I don't want to bash klm or slicerogue with this nerd essay, but they both fucked up not really taking into account the minimum standard for today's comp community. klm is a capable editor, slicerogue has enough competitive experience to pick decent clips so not sure how that thing was created

edit: to klm and slicerogue I'd say that they need to rethink how to go about gathering and pacing clips. Could draw some valuable lessons from it and produce a way better result in the future. The video might not have been well received but hopefully it doesn't discourage you too much to improve and gather feedback
6785
#6785
11 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQs9xEOdKlg

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQs9xEOdKlg[/youtube]
6786
#6786
6 Frags +

TF2 Edit nerd here;

totally agree with Tob's points on pacing/clip quality.

Also, one big reason that klm's edit is hard to follow is that there's zero sound effects. I didn't mind the visual effects in isolation but that + no killfeed + no sounds means it's often hard to tell IMMEDIATELY when he actually hits an arrow on someone or not. (The arrow impact sound is so satisfying, how could you not include that?) For reference, here's a fucking CRAZY tf2 edit where shit is all over the screen but you can still follow what's going on (shockingly) because of the sound cues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29zYMnO8l00 -- you may not be able to follow aim very well, a style which some people will always inherently hate (for reasons I empathize with), but you always know instantly when an enemy dies.

In the klm/slicerouge edit, yeah I can still technically tell what is going on in the offending clips by squinting, thinking about it, or waiting for the follow-up smooth to tell me if he hit that arrow, but making the viewer have to exert effort to figure out what is happening isn't really what you want in an edit.

That being said, I don't think klm's edit is bad, it just doesn't really live up to its potential.

...holy fuck I spent an hour on this, I need to end this nerd essay before it becomes a 10-page paper on the history of tf2 editing. Don't do Film majors in college kids.

TF2 Edit nerd here;

totally agree with Tob's points on pacing/clip quality.

Also, one big reason that klm's edit is hard to follow is that there's zero sound effects. I didn't mind the visual effects in isolation but that + no killfeed + no sounds means it's often hard to tell IMMEDIATELY when he actually hits an arrow on someone or not. (The arrow impact sound is so satisfying, how could you not include that?) For reference, here's a fucking CRAZY tf2 edit where shit is all over the screen but you can still follow what's going on (shockingly) because of the sound cues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29zYMnO8l00 -- you may not be able to follow aim very well, a style which some people will always inherently hate (for reasons I empathize with), but you always know instantly when an enemy dies.

In the klm/slicerouge edit, yeah I can still technically tell what is going on in the offending clips by squinting, thinking about it, or waiting for the follow-up smooth to tell me if he hit that arrow, but making the viewer have to exert effort to figure out what is happening isn't really what you want in an edit.

That being said, I don't think klm's edit is bad, it just doesn't really live up to its potential.

...holy fuck I spent an hour on this, I need to end this nerd essay before it becomes a 10-page paper on the history of tf2 editing. Don't do Film majors in college kids.
6787
#6787
15 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laExXklmRBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laExXklmRBw
6788
#6788
2 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1ANzKbozo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1ANzKbozo
6789
#6789
13 Frags +

https://youtu.be/NbmNrD7FmNw

https://youtu.be/NbmNrD7FmNw
6790
#6790
-2 Frags +

https://youtu.be/YI6r714MINk

bed editing & funny clips :D

https://youtu.be/YI6r714MINk

bed editing & funny clips :D
6791
#6791
-11 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTe9-iMco50&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTe9-iMco50&feature=youtu.be
6792
#6792
12 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gghi-YEO0qU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gghi-YEO0qU
6793
#6793
1 Frags +

https://youtu.be/buUsxzwXJh4

https://youtu.be/buUsxzwXJh4
6794
#6794
15 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWFvpC8Z1o&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWFvpC8Z1o&feature=youtu.be
6795
#6795
5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRO5QhzIQMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRO5QhzIQMA
6796
#6796
-11 Frags +

https://youtu.be/1g_WERJhbzc

https://youtu.be/1g_WERJhbzc
6797
#6797
-5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bu5qLx3Lw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bu5qLx3Lw0
6798
#6798
Ascent
28 Frags +

ESL Cup frags from Drackk & Sil, Edit by Uil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBK3nmvCNc4

ESL Cup frags from Drackk & Sil, Edit by Uil

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBK3nmvCNc4[/youtube]
6799
#6799
3 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkriYAdKAZ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkriYAdKAZ4
6800
#6800
33 Frags +
Ma3laaESL Cup frags from Drackk & Sil, Edit by Uil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBK3nmvCNc4

the edits really good but please can you not record with interp 0.1 it looks so terrible

[quote=Ma3laa]ESL Cup frags from Drackk & Sil, Edit by Uil

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBK3nmvCNc4[/youtube][/quote]
the edits really good but please can you not record with interp 0.1 it looks so terrible
6801
#6801
1 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjB7OsdtVk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjB7OsdtVk0
6802
#6802
12 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoYwFuQ8p9w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoYwFuQ8p9w
6803
#6803
13 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPmpLcnAEI&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPmpLcnAEI&t=3s
6804
#6804
9 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4G2gVXX_rc&feature=youtu.be

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4G2gVXX_rc&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
6805
#6805
4 Frags +

https://youtu.be/TBMVw7q4U0k

https://youtu.be/TBMVw7q4U0k
6806
#6806
3 Frags +

https://youtu.be/6ipgCPm3-YY

https://youtu.be/6ipgCPm3-YY
6807
#6807
5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKxp-PgTH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKxp-PgTH4
6808
#6808
2 Frags +

https://youtu.be/UrvFB7eFgmQ

https://youtu.be/UrvFB7eFgmQ
6809
#6809
3 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsQ2k-9kgh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsQ2k-9kgh0
6810
#6810
1 Frags +

https://youtu.be/PkwendsL_-k

https://youtu.be/PkwendsL_-k
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