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Help with tracking
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#1
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I've already lowered my sens from 5-6 in/360 to 11.4-12 in/360 but I still flick a lot and it's terrible when I play scout. How do I improve tracking other than lowering my sens again if possible?

I've already lowered my sens from 5-6 in/360 to 11.4-12 in/360 but I still flick a lot and it's terrible when I play scout. How do I improve tracking other than lowering my sens again if possible?
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#2
5 Frags +

Do you flick because of habit from other classes or do you flick because you're trying to "quickly aim/repositioning" crosshair?

Do you flick because of habit from other classes or do you flick because you're trying to "quickly aim/repositioning" crosshair?
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#3
9 Frags +

Start by practicing scout in pubs against players with simple movement and actually think about your aim. Constantly think to yourself that you're only going to track each enemy. All it comes down to is practice until it becomes natural.

Start by practicing scout in pubs against players with simple movement and actually think about your aim. Constantly think to yourself that you're only going to track each enemy. All it comes down to is practice until it becomes natural.
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#4
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You shouldn't need to lower your sens any more, but if you really feel like it's your sens hindering your abilities rather than lack of practice, then go for it. If you want to get good at tracking, practice things that require you to only track, like the pistol.

People will always say it's a stupid idea to play another game to get good at tf2, but honestly cs helps you not aim like a mongo and also improves your crosshair placement. There is no secret though besides practicing what you want to get good at.

You shouldn't need to lower your sens any more, but if you really feel like it's your sens hindering your abilities rather than lack of practice, then go for it. If you want to get good at tracking, practice things that require you to only track, like the pistol.

People will always say it's a stupid idea to play another game to get good at tf2, but honestly cs helps you not aim like a mongo and also improves your crosshair placement. There is no secret though besides practicing what you want to get good at.
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#5
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If you play with viewmodels off try turning them on and enabling the minmode or getting a bigger hud crosshair that surrounds your regular crosshair. Probably placebo with the crosshair but the viewmodels definitely clicks in my brain and encourages me to track.

If you play with viewmodels off try turning them on and enabling the minmode or getting a bigger hud crosshair that surrounds your regular crosshair. Probably placebo with the crosshair but the viewmodels definitely clicks in my brain and encourages me to track.
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#6
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Something that helped me is tracking teammates. pubs, warmup, in-game during stalemates or rollouts, etc
If there are no enemies to shoot I'm tracking a teammate. There's no pressure to hit any shots on teammates so all you need to think about is your aim

Something that helped me is tracking teammates. pubs, warmup, in-game during stalemates or rollouts, etc
If there are no enemies to shoot I'm tracking a teammate. There's no pressure to hit any shots on teammates so all you need to think about is your aim
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#7
16 Frags +

Try this

[url=https://youtu.be/SS4oyd7AchQ?t=8m40s]Try this[/url]
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#8
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use touch screen laptop and track that shit !

use touch screen laptop and track that shit !
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#9
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i learned through scout v scout pistol only mge
so i guess it's just practise and grinding

i learned through scout v scout pistol only mge
so i guess it's just practise and grinding
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#10
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I swear to god when I first saw this thread it said "help with fracking"

I swear to god when I first saw this thread it said "help with fracking"
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#11
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One thing that really helped me was watching sheep demos no matter how strange that sounds

One thing that really helped me was watching sheep demos no matter how strange that sounds
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#12
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playing dm while focusing on not flicking is a start, maybe you won't hit but you'll get out of the bad habbit, then try to smoothly move your mouse which will help you track predictable movement, it takes time.

playing dm while focusing on not flicking is a start, maybe you won't hit but you'll get out of the bad habbit, then try to smoothly move your mouse which will help you track predictable movement, it takes time.
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#13
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Play MGE. Hold down your fire button and force yourself to track.

Play MGE. Hold down your fire button and force yourself to track.
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#14
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Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.

Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.
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#15
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play quake LG only

play quake LG only
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#16
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Gonna hop on the quake bandwagon and just say play that. tracking is a big part of that game, and your sensitivity carries over as well.

Gonna hop on the quake bandwagon and just say play that. tracking is a big part of that game, and your sensitivity carries over as well.
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#17
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I mean if u can't track why don't u work on improving ur flick aim instead to get good at scout

I mean if u can't track why don't u work on improving ur flick aim instead to get good at scout
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#18
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Pistol only dm

Pistol only dm
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#19
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honestly dont waste your time grinding dm

the proactive approach to learning tracking is you can have me come over to your house and ill put my hand ontop of your hand, resting on the mouse.

honestly dont waste your time grinding dm

the [b][i]proactive[/i][/b] approach to learning tracking is you can have me come over to your house and ill put my hand ontop of your hand, resting on the mouse.
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#20
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Adebisi Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry

[quote=Adebisi] [b]Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.[/b]

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.[/quote]

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry
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#21
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wtzwtzfuck I'm retarded
[quote=wtz][quote=wtz]fuck I'm retarded[/quote][/quote]
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#22
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Back when I was getting used to tracking I used tr_aim(the bot on the right) and forced myself to track the bot with both scatter and pistol, but I recommend using scatter more as with pistol tracking comes pretty naturally, but practicing scatter tracking is what you want to do. It can be helpful to practice tracking as sniper as well, helped me.

Sensitivity doesn't matter with tracking, or in fact with anything, it's all just a personal preference(however in general I'd recommend something between 20-38cm/360 as each end might cause trouble tracking in certain ranges) find a comfy one.

Back when I was getting used to tracking I used tr_aim(the bot on the right) and forced myself to track the bot with both scatter and pistol, but I recommend using scatter more as with pistol tracking comes pretty naturally, but practicing scatter tracking is what you want to do. It can be helpful to practice tracking as sniper as well, helped me.

Sensitivity doesn't matter with tracking, or in fact with anything, it's all just a personal preference(however in general I'd recommend something between 20-38cm/360 as each end might cause trouble tracking in certain ranges) find a comfy one.
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#23
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wtzAdebisi Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry

Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.

[quote=wtz][quote=Adebisi] [b]Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.[/b]

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.[/quote]

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry[/quote]
Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.
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#24
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actually keep track of the person you are going to kill with your eyes non stop

actually keep track of the person you are going to kill with your eyes non stop
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#25
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I also have the same problem but with demo... I can't land any pipes

I also have the same problem but with demo... I can't land any pipes
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#26
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#27
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AdebisiwtzAdebisi Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry
Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.

imo a slower sensitivity (over 10 inches) makes you have to move your mouse farther/faster to keep up with the game which tends to make your aim more spazzy/twitchy for me the faster my sensitivity (around 5-10 inches) is easier to track because I can calmly move my mouse nice and slow and still be able to keep up with the players in the game

its an unpopular view I think but the couple people I convinced to try under 10 inch sensitivities instead of over 10 inches also felt the same way that their aim felt much more crisp/calm and it was much easier to track

also for op when I was grinding hard and trying to get really good tracking I watched demos of people with great aim Youmustmike/sheep/snowblind before going into DM and then I tried to just imagine that I was them (sounds dumb but I think it helped... it at least forced me to watch demos more)

if nothing else it working you could also try to play with the shortstop in DM or in pubs the smaller spread combined with lower damage makes it so you really have to be careful with your aim/shots to do well and that could help you get in the right mindset for tracking

GL sorry for wall of 0 punctuation

[quote=Adebisi][quote=wtz][quote=Adebisi] [b]Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.[/b]

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.[/quote]

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry[/quote]
Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.[/quote]

imo a slower sensitivity (over 10 inches) makes you have to move your mouse farther/faster to keep up with the game which tends to make your aim more spazzy/twitchy for me the faster my sensitivity (around 5-10 inches) is easier to track because I can calmly move my mouse nice and slow and still be able to keep up with the players in the game

its an unpopular view I think but the couple people I convinced to try under 10 inch sensitivities instead of over 10 inches also felt the same way that their aim felt much more crisp/calm and it was much easier to track

also for op when I was grinding hard and trying to get really good tracking I watched demos of people with great aim Youmustmike/sheep/snowblind before going into DM and then I tried to just imagine that I was them (sounds dumb but I think it helped... it at least forced me to watch demos more)

if nothing else it working you could also try to play with the shortstop in DM or in pubs the smaller spread combined with lower damage makes it so you really have to be careful with your aim/shots to do well and that could help you get in the right mindset for tracking

GL sorry for wall of 0 punctuation
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#28
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CheesyMacgyverAdebisiwtzAdebisi Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry
Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.

imo a slower sensitivity (over 10 inches) makes you have to move your mouse farther/faster to keep up with the game which tends to make your aim more spazzy/twitchy for me the faster my sensitivity (around 5-10 inches) is easier to track because I can calmly move my mouse nice and slow and still be able to keep up with the players in the game

its an unpopular view I think but the couple people I convinced to try under 10 inch sensitivities instead of over 10 inches also felt the same way that their aim felt much more crisp/calm and it was much easier to track

also for op when I was grinding hard and trying to get really good tracking I watched demos of people with great aim Youmustmike/sheep/snowblind before going into DM and then I tried to just imagine that I was them (sounds dumb but I think it helped... it at least forced me to watch demos more)

if nothing else it working you could also try to play with the shortstop in DM or in pubs the smaller spread combined with lower damage makes it so you really have to be careful with your aim/shots to do well and that could help you get in the right mindset for tracking

GL sorry for wall of 0 punctuation

Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.

[quote=CheesyMacgyver][quote=Adebisi][quote=wtz][quote=Adebisi] [b]Ha, my scout sens is like 15.7.[/b]

I tend to lose focus and go on a mad m1 spree where I hit fuck all. Usually against a slippery medic or sniper. Very embarrassing.[/quote]

I think this is the the problem.
e: I thought you were op sorry[/quote]
Why would it be a problem?

15.7 inches per 360 btw.[/quote]

imo a slower sensitivity (over 10 inches) makes you have to move your mouse farther/faster to keep up with the game which tends to make your aim more spazzy/twitchy for me the faster my sensitivity (around 5-10 inches) is easier to track because I can calmly move my mouse nice and slow and still be able to keep up with the players in the game

its an unpopular view I think but the couple people I convinced to try under 10 inch sensitivities instead of over 10 inches also felt the same way that their aim felt much more crisp/calm and it was much easier to track

also for op when I was grinding hard and trying to get really good tracking I watched demos of people with great aim Youmustmike/sheep/snowblind before going into DM and then I tried to just imagine that I was them (sounds dumb but I think it helped... it at least forced me to watch demos more)

if nothing else it working you could also try to play with the shortstop in DM or in pubs the smaller spread combined with lower damage makes it so you really have to be careful with your aim/shots to do well and that could help you get in the right mindset for tracking

GL sorry for wall of 0 punctuation[/quote]


Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.
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#29
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Adebisi
Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.

Yeah a lot of very great aimers play on around 9-15 (not putting myself in the same category) I used to as well but when it came time to aim my mouse movements always had to be so fast to keep up with the game and all the jumps/strafes I did and it ended up making me super flicky but when I tried (just for fun at first) a very fast sensitivity I realized it was way easier for me to stay calm and move my mouse very slowly which in turn made it much easier to track once I got used to controlling the speed

in the end though I think pretty much everyone is going to have a general area in which they feel most comfy and that should be their sens whether its 5-9/9-12 or 13-17

alright somehow I fucked up the quoting I blame the website tbh
nvmgotitheh

[quote=Adebisi]

Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.[/quote]

Yeah a lot of very great aimers play on around 9-15 (not putting myself in the same category) I used to as well but when it came time to aim my mouse movements always had to be so fast to keep up with the game and all the jumps/strafes I did and it ended up making me super flicky but when I tried (just for fun at first) a very fast sensitivity I realized it was way easier for me to stay calm and move my mouse very slowly which in turn made it much easier to track once I got used to controlling the speed

in the end though I think pretty much everyone is going to have a general area in which they feel most comfy and that should be their sens whether its 5-9/9-12 or 13-17

alright somehow I fucked up the quoting I blame the website tbh
nvmgotitheh
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#30
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CheesyMacgyverAdebisi
Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.

Yeah a lot of very great aimers play on around 9-15 (not putting myself in the same category) I used to as well but when it came time to aim my mouse movements always had to be so fast to keep up with the game and all the jumps/strafes I did and it ended up making me super flicky but when I tried (just for fun at first) a very fast sensitivity I realized it was way easier for me to stay calm and move my mouse very slowly which in turn made it much easier to track once I got used to controlling the speed

in the end though I think pretty much everyone is going to have a general area in which they feel most comfy and that should be their sens whether its 5-9/9-12 or 13-17

alright somehow I fucked up the quoting I blame the website tbh
nvmgotitheh

I still haven't found the perfect sens for me, tbf. I alternate between 15.1 ad everything up to 15.7, depending on whether im struggling to keep up or whether it feels too quick.

[quote=CheesyMacgyver][quote=Adebisi]

Don't most scouts play on maybe 9-15 inches though? I think Shrugger's is like 13, Yomps about 15 something and I think I read that Ruwin and Starkie play/ed on something like 17 or more, though I may be wrong.

If I have a high sens I tend to be more erratic with my aim because of the speed of it all, whereas on a lower one I tend to more guide my mouse onto enemies. I recently spent a long time trying to find the perfect sens after having about 12 inches, and I changed to 15.1 and immediately hit so many more of my shots. The downside is that if a quick enemy is close to me and running past, it's sometimes tough to turn and keep my crosshair on them, or, at least, they may find it easier if they have a higher sens.[/quote]

Yeah a lot of very great aimers play on around 9-15 (not putting myself in the same category) I used to as well but when it came time to aim my mouse movements always had to be so fast to keep up with the game and all the jumps/strafes I did and it ended up making me super flicky but when I tried (just for fun at first) a very fast sensitivity I realized it was way easier for me to stay calm and move my mouse very slowly which in turn made it much easier to track once I got used to controlling the speed

in the end though I think pretty much everyone is going to have a general area in which they feel most comfy and that should be their sens whether its 5-9/9-12 or 13-17

alright somehow I fucked up the quoting I blame the website tbh
nvmgotitheh[/quote]


I still haven't found the perfect sens for me, tbf. I alternate between 15.1 ad everything up to 15.7, depending on whether im struggling to keep up or whether it feels too quick.
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