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eeeyou're going to have a bad time explaining the subtleties of taxonomy to nerds who couldn't finish freshmen biology :(

the defining line between species, subspecies, and races is basically nonexistent. From any sort of criteria that you can come up with that isn't phenotypic, it's basically impossible to differentiate blacks, whites, asians, etc.

i mean u could just look at em tbh fam unless ur blind, oooh sorry to discriminate

[quote=eee]you're going to have a bad time explaining the subtleties of taxonomy to nerds who couldn't finish freshmen biology :(

the defining line between species, subspecies, and races is basically nonexistent. From any sort of criteria that you can come up with that isn't phenotypic, it's basically impossible to differentiate blacks, whites, asians, etc.[/quote]
i mean u could just look at em tbh fam unless ur blind, oooh sorry to discriminate
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Nub_DanishmustardoverlordNub_DanishmustardoverlordLsRainbowsNub_DanishLsRainbowsNub_Danishhttp://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb
it supports the idea of differences based on ancestry not just black, white, yellow etc which supports the arrangement I've made that people are not inherently equal and your ancestry not race in the traditional sense does mean that people are genetically superior and inferior from one another not necessarily based on the race as in skin color and what not because race is not specific enough

this is a far cry from what you said earlier
Nub_Danishraces can be genetically superior to one another this is correct
But no, that paper is literally saying that race is a social construct, from the first paragraph to the last, perhaps you were confused by the wording?? i know words are hard

"As a biological rather than a social construct, “race” has ceased to be seen as a fundamental reality characterizing the human species. "

"If it were admitted that the category of “race” is a purely social construct, however, it would have a weakened legitimacy. Thus, there have been repeated attempts to reassert the objective biological reality of human racial categories despite the evidence to the contrary."

All of this ignores the other completely stupid part of the argument

Even if you can isolate some specific genetic trait as being isolated to one 'race' (for instance, caucasians being much more lactose-tolerant than most other groups), how does that make a race 'superior' or 'inferior'? That terminology is so loaded and meaningless
How could being lactose intolerant being anything but inferior smh

because you don't have to drink milk to live a happy life...?
But having the option to drink milk is a benefit eh?

Nah, it's fattening

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=LsRainbows][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=LsRainbows][quote=Nub_Danish]
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them[/quote]

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb[/quote]
it supports the idea of differences based on ancestry not just black, white, yellow etc which supports the arrangement I've made that people are not inherently equal and your ancestry not race in the traditional sense does mean that people are genetically superior and inferior from one another not necessarily based on the race as in skin color and what not because race is not specific enough[/quote]

this is a far cry from what you said earlier

[quote=Nub_Danish]races can be genetically superior to one another this is correct[/quote]


But no, that paper is literally saying that race is a social construct, from the first paragraph to the last, perhaps you were confused by the wording?? i know words are hard

"As [b]a biological rather than a social construct[/b], “race” has ceased to be seen as a fundamental reality characterizing the human species. "


"If it were admitted that the category of “race” is [b]a purely social construct[/b], however, it would have a weakened legitimacy. Thus, there have been repeated attempts to reassert the objective biological reality of human racial categories despite the [b]evidence to the contrary.[/b]"[/quote]

All of this ignores the other completely stupid part of the argument

Even if you can isolate some specific genetic trait as being isolated to one 'race' (for instance, caucasians being much more lactose-tolerant than most other groups), how does that make a race 'superior' or 'inferior'? That terminology is so loaded and meaningless[/quote]
How could being lactose intolerant being anything but inferior smh[/quote]

because you don't have to drink milk to live a happy life...?[/quote]
But having the option to drink milk is a benefit eh?[/quote]

Nah, it's fattening
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#153
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Nub_DanishLsRainbowsNub_Danishhttp://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb
it supports the idea of differences based on ancestry not just black, white, yellow etc which supports the arrangement I've made that people are not inherently equal and your ancestry not race in the traditional sense does mean that people are genetically superior and inferior from one another not necessarily based on the race as in skin color and what not because race is not specific enough
i will admit that race was not the right way to describe it, i was just refuting someones earlier claim that people cannot be genetically superior based on ancestry/race (my bad i group the two together because in my mind they are the same in thing, but you cant determine someones ancestry simply by looking at them, and race is kind of a arbitrary thing determined only by looks)

damn that's one long sentence you got there bud.

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=LsRainbows][quote=Nub_Danish]
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them[/quote]

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb[/quote]
it supports the idea of differences based on ancestry not just black, white, yellow etc which supports the arrangement I've made that people are not inherently equal and your ancestry not race in the traditional sense does mean that people are genetically superior and inferior from one another not necessarily based on the race as in skin color and what not because race is not specific enough
i will admit that race was not the right way to describe it, i was just refuting someones earlier claim that people cannot be genetically superior based on ancestry/race (my bad i group the two together because in my mind they are the same in thing, but you cant determine someones ancestry simply by looking at them, and race is kind of a arbitrary thing determined only by looks)[/quote]

damn that's one long sentence you got there bud.
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hoolifatswimdudei hope youre not trying to say that gender dysphoria isnt real because a few people misdiagnosed themselves Of course it's real but it is a treatable condition that doesn't have to involve hormones and sex reassignment surgery which can actually make the condition worse and can potential lead to suicide.

that's actually very wrong, please post any evidence supporting that

[quote=hooli][quote=fatswimdude]i hope youre not trying to say that gender dysphoria isnt real because a few people misdiagnosed themselves[/quote] Of course it's real but it is a treatable condition that doesn't have to involve hormones and sex reassignment surgery which can actually make the condition worse and can potential lead to suicide.[/quote]
that's actually very wrong, please post any evidence supporting that
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alright mustard anything is fattening u dum fuck its calories in calories out that is how it works you could just drink skim milk which has very low calories but who would want that its basicly water

alright mustard anything is fattening u dum fuck its calories in calories out that is how it works you could just drink skim milk which has very low calories but who would want that its basicly water
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I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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#159
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I feel like in order to identify as something and have that be respected by people or law etc, you need to actually do something about it? I'm not saying you can't have the idea in your head, but you can't really expect people to bend over backwards for you if you haven't made any effort.

Like for instance, if I just say I'm a girl and then go into the female lockers, still looking like a guy, I can hardly expect people to not be uncomfortable, whereas if I look like I might potentially be a girl or be transitioning then it's a lot more reasonable to expect people to not tell me to get the fuck out.

Who knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.

I feel like in order to identify as something and have that be respected by people or law etc, you need to actually do something about it? I'm not saying you can't have the idea in your head, but you can't really expect people to bend over backwards for you if you haven't made any effort.

Like for instance, if I just say I'm a girl and then go into the female lockers, still looking like a guy, I can hardly expect people to not be uncomfortable, whereas if I look like I might potentially be a girl or be transitioning then it's a lot more reasonable to expect people to not tell me to get the fuck out.

Who knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.
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MouldI feel like in order to identify as something and have that be respected by people or law etc, you need to actually do something about it? I'm not saying you can't have the idea in your head, but you can't really expect people to bend over backwards for you if you haven't made any effort.

Maybe you'll look cute enough that some people will bend over anyways.

[quote=Mould]I feel like in order to identify as something and have that be respected by people or law etc, you need to actually do something about it? I'm not saying you can't have the idea in your head, but you can't really expect people to bend over backwards for you if you haven't made any effort.
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Maybe you'll look cute enough that some people will bend over anyways.
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MouldWho knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.

*enter dragon lady!*

[quote=Mould]Who knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.[/quote]

[url=http://www.unilad.co.uk/pics/transgender-ex-banker-has-ears-removed-in-quest-to-become-dragon/]*enter dragon lady!*[/url]
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#162
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there's nothing wrong with doing what makes you feel happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, regardless of what you may think of the people want to be different

there's nothing wrong with doing what makes you feel happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, regardless of what you may think of the people want to be different
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#163
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MouldLike for instance, if I just say I'm a girl and then go into the female lockers, still looking like a guy, I can hardly expect people to not be uncomfortable, whereas if I look like I might potentially be a girl or be transitioning then it's a lot more reasonable to expect people to not tell me to get the fuck out.

Who knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.

1.most people can tell someone is Transgender because they take hormones. chances are nobody will notice a male to female as being a biological male in public.
2. people don't actually do this because cultural norms don't allow us.
3. you can't 'just say' you're a girl and expect people to believe you, for people to believe someone is transgender, the person in question had to do some working on their end to get to that legitimate point(not necessarily to surgery).
4. plastic surgery is an option if you want to look different

[quote=Mould]
Like for instance, if I just say I'm a girl and then go into the female lockers, still looking like a guy, I can hardly expect people to not be uncomfortable, whereas if I look like I might potentially be a girl or be transitioning then it's a lot more reasonable to expect people to not tell me to get the fuck out.

Who knows maybe one day you'll be able to get surgery to look however you want.[/quote]
1.most people can tell someone is Transgender because they take hormones. chances are nobody will notice a male to female as being a biological male in public.
2. people don't actually do this because cultural norms don't allow us.
3. you can't 'just say' you're a girl and expect people to believe you, for people to believe someone is transgender, the person in question had to do some working on their end to get to that legitimate point(not necessarily to surgery).
4. plastic surgery is an option if you [b]want[/b] to look different
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#164
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Is anyone else amused by the delicious irony of belittling people and their views according to their own indoctrinated principles in here? True comprehension comes from trying to understand - not judging - conflicting views. So much mudslinging, so much labeling in here reeking of hatred and political correctness. What's sad is that this isn't even a discussion. It's just the loudest bunch toppling over each other to see who has the most oil slicked tongue in a rhetoric competition.

There were so many interesting things to talk about. Why is an identity experiment designed around other's perception of you? Is your identity exclusive to your perception only? Why did the experiment place an emphasis on other's perception (value) of a subject other than itself? What are the limitations of forging your own identity? Does it have any relevance on who you are as a person at the end of the day?

I personally thought the purpose of the experiment was somewhat self-defeating but from what I read in the article they were making the argument that 'one who stands for everything stands for nothing' - somewhere there's going to be a conflict of interest. Where do you draw the line? Do you eliminate all the intolerant? Then what does that make you?

It's really amusing because the scenario kind of played out here. I don't agree or disagree strongly because I'm still ignorant over the full implications of this idea. But I'm not going to link petty material or post edgy comebacks or call someone stupid. I'm not that sure of it myself and to be honest you shouldn't either. There's a lot more to think over.

Is anyone else amused by the delicious irony of belittling people and their views according to their own indoctrinated principles in here? True comprehension comes from trying to understand - not judging - conflicting views. So much mudslinging, so much labeling in here reeking of hatred and political correctness. What's sad is that this isn't even a discussion. It's just the loudest bunch toppling over each other to see who has the most oil slicked tongue in a rhetoric competition.

There were so many interesting things to talk about. Why is an identity experiment designed around other's perception of you? Is your identity exclusive to your perception only? Why did the experiment place an emphasis on other's perception (value) of a subject other than itself? What are the limitations of forging your own identity? Does it have any relevance on who you are as a person at the end of the day?

I personally thought the purpose of the experiment was somewhat self-defeating but from what I read in the article they were making the argument that 'one who stands for everything stands for nothing' - somewhere there's going to be a conflict of interest. Where do you draw the line? Do you eliminate all the intolerant? Then what does that make you?

It's really amusing because the scenario kind of played out here. I don't agree or disagree strongly because I'm still ignorant over the full implications of this idea. But I'm not going to link petty material or post edgy comebacks or call someone stupid. I'm not that sure of it myself and to be honest you shouldn't either. There's a lot more to think over.
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cme1.most people can tell someone is Transgender because they take hormones. chances are nobody will notice a male to female as being a biological male in public.
2. people don't actually do this because cultural norms don't allow us.
3. you can't 'just say' you're a girl and expect people to believe you, for people to believe someone is transgender, the person in question had to do some working on their end to get to that legitimate point(not necessarily to surgery).
4. plastic surgery is an option if you want to look different

You have to understand that I was just saying if that guy in the video told me he was transgender then that would be my opinion on him specifically, not hating on trans people tbh, if it came across as me saying any different then apologies, genuinely. I really don't mean to be offensive.

I fully support trans people using their correct bathrooms or lockers or whatever, just not a random bloke saying 'I'm a 6''3 asian woman' using them, because if I was a girl, I would feel uncomfortable with that, because I wouldn't know if the person was truely trans or not, just like you said, you can't just say it and have people believe it.

The surgery comment wasn't just for transgender, like, if he identifies as taller, maybe some day he'll be able to get surgery to be taller, or if someone identifies as a fox, maybe one day they can get a tail or some orange fur or some shit, whatever they want. I'm not trying to say all trans people have to get surgery or whatever, I'm just saying the whole 'identify as X' thing might be easier all round if everyone just looked the way they wanted to.

but yea genuinely sorry if I offended anyone in general, if you still aren't a fan of my viewpoint then it is what it is I guess, but I'll definitely accept I didn't put it across very well the first time

[quote=cme]
1.most people can tell someone is Transgender because they take hormones. chances are nobody will notice a male to female as being a biological male in public.
2. people don't actually do this because cultural norms don't allow us.
3. you can't 'just say' you're a girl and expect people to believe you, for people to believe someone is transgender, the person in question had to do some working on their end to get to that legitimate point(not necessarily to surgery).
4. plastic surgery is an option if you [b]want[/b] to look different[/quote]

You have to understand that I was just saying if that guy in the video told me he was transgender then that would be my opinion on him specifically, not hating on trans people tbh, if it came across as me saying any different then apologies, genuinely. I really don't mean to be offensive.

I fully support trans people using their correct bathrooms or lockers or whatever, just not a random bloke saying 'I'm a 6''3 asian woman' using them, because if I was a girl, I would feel uncomfortable with that, because I wouldn't know if the person was truely trans or not, just like you said, you can't just say it and have people believe it.

The surgery comment wasn't just for transgender, like, if he identifies as taller, maybe some day he'll be able to get surgery to be taller, or if someone identifies as a fox, maybe one day they can get a tail or some orange fur or some shit, whatever they want. I'm not trying to say all trans people [i]have[/i] to get surgery or whatever, I'm just saying the whole 'identify as X' thing might be easier all round if everyone just looked the way they wanted to.

but yea genuinely sorry if I offended anyone in general, if you still aren't a fan of my viewpoint then it is what it is I guess, but I'll definitely accept I didn't put it across very well the first time
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#166
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Reading cis people trying to talk about trans issues is like watching a fish try to breath air...nevertheless it will take time for "public opinion" to change, and these discussions however cancerous they are, definitely show a change considering this thread would not have even existed 3-5 years ago.

With understanding comes empathy, with empathy comes acknowledgement, with acknowledgment comes acceptance.

Reading cis people trying to talk about trans issues is like watching a fish try to breath air...nevertheless it will take time for "public opinion" to change, and these discussions however cancerous they are, definitely show a change considering this thread would not have even existed 3-5 years ago.

With understanding comes empathy, with empathy comes acknowledgement, with acknowledgment comes acceptance.
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MelonTFthere's nothing wrong with doing what makes you feel happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, regardless of what you may think of the people want to be different

Meet Jewel Suping. She has had a fascination with blindness since childhood. She'd try to blind herself by staring at the sun. By 18 she was wearing dark glasses with a cane. Eventually a "sympathetic" psychologist poured drain cleaner into her eyes granting her wish.

Next up we we have this brave and beautiful women who decided to cut off her legs. "I didn't want them. My brain just kept saying get rid of them... so I got rid of them."

Do these people effect you or your family? Probably not. Should they be able to do whatever they want? Within reason. Should we encourage such destructive behavior because it's something they truly want? Do we encourage a suicidal person to kill themselves? Why not? Shouldn't we try everything in our power to prevent these people from doing such harm to their bodies? Can you even argue for these people's sanity?

How would you feel if your daughter told you she won't be happy until she cuts off her legs or blinds herself? Would you be okay with that? Would you encourage and enable her or would you try to make her happy another way?

[quote=MelonTF]there's nothing wrong with doing what makes you feel happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, regardless of what you may think of the people want to be different[/quote]
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3256029/Woman-dreamed-blind-DRAIN-CLEANER-poured-eyes-fulfil-lifelong-wish-says-happier-ever.html]Meet Jewel Suping[/url]. She has had a fascination with blindness since childhood. She'd try to blind herself by staring at the sun. By 18 she was wearing dark glasses with a cane. Eventually a "sympathetic" psychologist poured drain cleaner into her eyes granting her wish.

Next up we we have this [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wlupf36vg]brave and beautiful women[/url] who decided to cut off her legs. "I didn't want them. My brain just kept saying get rid of them... so I got rid of them."

Do these people effect you or your family? Probably not. Should they be able to do whatever they want? Within reason. Should we encourage such destructive behavior because it's something they truly want? Do we encourage a suicidal person to kill themselves? Why not? Shouldn't we try everything in our power to prevent these people from doing such harm to their bodies? Can you even argue for these people's sanity?

How would you feel if your daughter told you she won't be happy until she cuts off her legs or blinds herself? Would you be okay with that? Would you encourage and enable her or would you try to make her happy another way?
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#168
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are you comparing cutting off one's own legs and blinding oneself to getting MEDICALLY AND SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED surgery to correct a gender dysphoria? that's like comparing the shit you said to getting chemo or to removing a kidney stone - you may be hurting your body in the short term through said surgery or treatment but it is correcting an issue, whether it is psychological or physical.

are you comparing cutting off one's own legs and blinding oneself to getting MEDICALLY AND SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED surgery to correct a gender dysphoria? that's like comparing the shit you said to getting chemo or to removing a kidney stone - you may be hurting your body in the short term through said surgery or treatment but it is correcting an issue, whether it is psychological or physical.
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Did I say I was comparing cutting of one's own legs and blinding oneself to getting medically and scientifically supported surgery to correct gender dysphoria? Cool your jets.

I'm attacking the idea of "If it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone else then it's ok."

Did I say I was comparing cutting of one's own legs and blinding oneself to getting medically and scientifically supported surgery to correct gender dysphoria? Cool your jets.

I'm attacking the idea of "If it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone else then it's ok."
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hooli Should we encourage such destructive behavior because it's something they truly want? Do we encourage a suicidal person to kill themselves? Why not? Shouldn't we try everything in our power to prevent these people from doing such harm to their bodies? Can you even argue for these people's sanity?

Both of those two examples are pretty extreme, and honestly they're not too far off from other popular activities. Cigarettes are incredibly harmful both to you and the people around you, yet those are pretty socially acceptable. Chinese foot binding was extremely painful, and popular for a long amount of time. It's not like engaging in self-destructive behaviors in uncommon in the slightest, just that some are weirder and some are socially acceptable. I don't see how it's unfair to them if they are truly happy and are not affecting others. The worst I could think of them affecting others is medical bills being thrust onto the state medical system, in either case.

[quote=hooli] Should we encourage such destructive behavior because it's something they truly want? Do we encourage a suicidal person to kill themselves? Why not? Shouldn't we try everything in our power to prevent these people from doing such harm to their bodies? Can you even argue for these people's sanity? [/quote]
Both of those two examples are pretty extreme, and honestly they're not too far off from other popular activities. Cigarettes are incredibly harmful both to you and the people around you, yet those are pretty socially acceptable. Chinese foot binding was extremely painful, and popular for a long amount of time. It's not like engaging in self-destructive behaviors in uncommon in the slightest, just that some are weirder and some are socially acceptable. I don't see how it's unfair to them if they are truly happy and are not affecting others. The worst I could think of them affecting others is medical bills being thrust onto the state medical system, in either case.
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Its very hard to work in that area, because it is after all a gray area, because, a person didn't decide that they want to kill themselves, most of the time they're fighting killing themselves and staying alive for as long as they can. However, this woman made a conscious decision that she was blind, it felt wrong that she wasn't blind. Where as a suicidal person doesn't want to live anymore, they don't WANT to be dead, its an overwhelming feeling of sadness and dread to kill yourself.

Should we encourage destructive behavior such as pipe draining your eyes? No. However she is an adult and is allowed to do whatever she wants with her body. It shouldn't have been getting as much attention as it has gotten. If a person really wants to kill themselves, theyre going to kill themselves without you encouraging it or discouraging it.

There is an issue however where I have seen teenagers not out of puberty taking testosterone and other genetic modifying drugs. And these can seriously harm your body for the rest of your life, wait until youre of age, and decide and make the biggest decision in your life, not when youre 15.

Its very hard to work in that area, because it is after all a gray area, because, a person didn't decide that they want to kill themselves, most of the time they're fighting killing themselves and staying alive for as long as they can. However, this woman made a conscious decision that she was blind, it felt wrong that she wasn't blind. Where as a suicidal person doesn't want to live anymore, they don't WANT to be dead, its an overwhelming feeling of sadness and dread to kill yourself.

Should we encourage destructive behavior such as pipe draining your eyes? No. However she is an adult and is allowed to do whatever she wants with her body. It shouldn't have been getting as much attention as it has gotten. If a person really wants to kill themselves, theyre going to kill themselves without you encouraging it or discouraging it.

There is an issue however where I have seen teenagers not out of puberty taking testosterone and other genetic modifying drugs. And these can seriously harm your body for the rest of your life, wait until youre of age, and decide and make the biggest decision in your life, not when youre 15.
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i wish all trannies would die along with the bleeding heart liberals

i wish all trannies would die along with the bleeding heart liberals
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Suicide is very much a decision. To not want vision is to want blindness. To not want life is to want death.

Suicide is very much a decision. To not want vision is to want blindness. To not want life is to want death.
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solaThere is an issue however where I have seen teenagers not out of puberty taking testosterone and other genetic modifying drugs. And these can seriously harm your body for the rest of your life, wait until youre of age, and decide and make the biggest decision in your life, not when youre 15.

the issue with that is that pre-puberty is a very effective time to start hormonal therapy, i mean what if you go through puberty and end up being extremely wide, hairy, tall, and have a super masculine jawline? also hormones dont modify your genetics (i hope you're not implying that hormones can somehow change your chromosones) and arnt as harmful as you're probably thinking (unless you're talking about them making you sterile but theres always freezing your sperm/eggs)

yaugi wish all trannies would die along with the bleeding heart liberals

haha! :3

and to sola "However, this woman made a conscious decision that she was blind, it felt wrong that she wasn't blind"
the amputee/disablity dysphoria its (popularly) hypothesized that it's an issue with brain mapping during the imprinting period so although she wasn't born wanting to be blind it's not really a conscious decision

[quote=sola]
There is an issue however where I have seen teenagers not out of puberty taking testosterone and other genetic modifying drugs. And these can seriously harm your body for the rest of your life, wait until youre of age, and decide and make the biggest decision in your life, not when youre 15.[/quote]
the issue with that is that pre-puberty is a very effective time to start hormonal therapy, i mean what if you go through puberty and end up being extremely wide, hairy, tall, and have a super masculine jawline? also hormones dont modify your genetics (i hope you're not implying that hormones can somehow change your chromosones) and arnt as harmful as you're probably thinking (unless you're talking about them making you sterile but theres always freezing your sperm/eggs)

[quote=yaug]i wish all trannies would die along with the bleeding heart liberals[/quote]
haha! :3

and to sola "However, this woman made a conscious decision that she was blind, it felt wrong that she wasn't blind"
the amputee/disablity dysphoria its (popularly) hypothesized that it's an issue with brain mapping during the imprinting period so although she wasn't born wanting to be blind it's not really a conscious decision
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#176
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The impulse isn't conscious but the decision to act is.

The impulse isn't conscious but the decision to act is.
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#177
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i didn't say it wasn't pal im just letting people know that it isn't some random stupid feeling as if one day they felt like not having legs anymore, it's an extremely complex thing that people barely know about so saying "there are other treatments" isnt really true sadly

i didn't say it wasn't pal im just letting people know that it isn't some random stupid feeling as if one day they felt like not having legs anymore, it's an extremely complex thing that people barely know about so saying "there are other treatments" isnt really true sadly
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#178
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maybe the therapist can show videos of people with legs racing people without legs just crawling around and say "see how wrong that is? just keep the legs buddy :)"

maybe the therapist can show videos of people with legs racing people without legs just crawling around and say "see how wrong that is? just keep the legs buddy :)"
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#179
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that curly haired girl is really dumb

that curly haired girl is really dumb
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#180
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The desire to kill oneself is treatable, is it not? Why wouldn't the desire to cut off your legs also be treatable? Are you saying you'd be supportive and encouraging of your child, or other loved one, if they decide to cut off their legs or blind themselves if they feel it is right?

The desire to kill oneself is treatable, is it not? Why wouldn't the desire to cut off your legs also be treatable? Are you saying you'd be supportive and encouraging of your child, or other loved one, if they decide to cut off their legs or blind themselves if they feel it is right?
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