Please don't patronize me. We have plenty of checks against mob rule that are inherently anti-democratic measures- the Supreme Court and the concept of unconstitutionality in general, the enforcement power of the executive branch, term limits (in some cases), supermajorities requires for some of the most important decisions, the Senate (although I'm not a fan of that one either), etc.

You're just defending the one that, without fail, leads to more conservative outcomes than the average American and is slanted against groups that don't support your candidate (people of color) rather than those that do (rural whites).

I realize that you're in denial of the fact that you're grasping for any element of political theory that seems to line up with your preexisting beliefs, but you are ignorant to both the origins of the electoral college and its outcomes.

[most] people aren't protesting because they don't accept the validity of the election, they are protesting because it's the most valid channel of expression against a particular candidate and their goal is to foment a movement

the tea party did exactly the same thing in regards to obama and it helped lead to a wave of new candidates that never would have propagated otherwise

your overly simplistic interpretations as created by r/thedonald do not correspond with reality

that's a myth, the electoral college was designed to prop up southern landed elites who owned slaves

last time I checked the poor rural black people living in the south aren't exactly benefiting from the electoral college

at the end of the day 1 vote should be 1 vote, period

for those who view this post as overly simplistic

I read the entire thing and started copying and pasting sections to talk about and then I realized I was basically copying and pasting the entire document, soooo

ironically the term limits are one of the only things I agree with him on

welp we're doomed

or maybe ive been in mumble with/played against the specific person I'm talking to? did you consider that possibility?

tagg never remotely even suggested that anyone should ban any words, he used his own words to combat them, but the irony is lost on you because you're trying like a motherfucker to rationalize your own use of racist language

people will always find a way to mitigate racist remarks and somehow blame the recipient of them because most people hold a lot of bigoted views and simultaneously have a need to see themselves as essentially good so they will never admit fault

nothing tagg can do about that, get off his nuts

It's easier when you only affiliate with the Democratic Party out of necessity when compared to the alternative

I don't consider myself a liberal, I consider myself a progressive and a democratic socialist and I think a lot more Americans feel that way than the Dems are willing to admit

The sad thing is, the conservatives in this thread are so close to being right. They're right about the DNC's idiocy in misunderstanding the anti-establishment bent of this election. They're right about Hillary (whatever you think about her on a personal/political level) being a terrible candidate in a pragmatic sense, who was seemingly only given the job because it felt like "her turn". They're right about the nasty tone of the election coming down to a "corrupt criminal cunt" vs a "bullying bigoted buffoon", which led to a lot of Americans creating a false equivalency between the two and either not turning out to vote or snap voting for 1 of the 2 for pretty unsatisfactory reasons.

The only area where they are wrong is in painting Donald Trump as in any way the solution to any of their problems. Here we have a rich megalomaniac who has spent his entire life only caring that the system stay rigged in his favor (including through, among other things, donating to Clinton), who has misled the angry white working class into thinking he will fight for them, despite having no substantive policy ideas and a complete lack of understanding how the world works.

The American people want populism so much that they voted for the worst possible populist package. Hopefully next time around we can get a true progressive populist, one who can unite poor whites and poor people of color and help them realize how they're being fucked by the corporations of the world.

I'm a big fan of the writing my man Robert Reich has been doing on the election, some of it was pretty prescient:
http://www.alternet.org/economy/robert-reich-why-white-working-class-abandoned-democratic-party
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_revolt_of_the_anxious_class_20151215
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/why-so-many-americans-fee_b_7150874.html
https://www.guernicamag.com/daily/robert-reich-the-end-of-the-establishment/
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1361848173827775?pnref=story

gee what happened in 1928 I wonder. . .

that's a conservative estimate for how many idiots there are in america

of course hillary still wins the popular vote

and people wonder why the democrats cant get anyone to turn out

what are you talking about

we don't have national popular vote lol, california is literally irrelevant

combination of unpredictable voter turnout, standard margin of error, and people lying about who they're voting for to appear less racist