http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svCmXhYxMGc

Jump around on props and laugh maniacally as you click people to death.

#2 the clockwork vid is great! that's pretty much what I'm looking for. Is there any pattern to the "jump to dodge" or is it mostly just random?

do the unexpected. abuse airstrafing with your double jump, as well as when hit by projectiles. abuse terrain. don't move in straight lines.

People sometimes get mixed up if you jump 1 time, against soldiers and demos at least.

Spam the hell out of jump, jump in random directions, pretend you're jumping off and then hit the strafe key so you lose all momentum and stay barely on highground, mash crouch key as much as you can to make your hitbox laggy and smaller than it appears-

that's vs soldiers anyways

Actually try and move out of the way of projectiles.

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Delay your 2nd jump against projectile classes and it will sometimes psyche them out into firing their shot prematurely, then you jump the other way and dodge.

OK OK OK. The key to dodging is NOT random movement. The secret is to -dodge-. Don't get into the habit of spamming random keys trying to be unpredictable. Once you stop focusing on that, you'll end up having a pretty easy to follow pattern of movement. Just stay calm when fighting and try to pay attention to people's weapon models, predicting where they'll shoot next.

Basically be reactive with your dodging, not proactive(most of the time).

Also, having movement with a purpose rather than random button presses will do wonders for your aim.

I like how people can give the exact same info and some get minus fragged and others plus fragged

I'm not a movement expert, but I've been systematically trying to work on my movement over the past few months. I'm not the best scout, but this is what I do in general.

Step 1: Have full control. Know your limits in terms of movement speed, dodging, airstrafing, surfing, etc. Conservation of momentum is important (when you airstrafe you want to have the right amount of turn). Knowing how to stop yourself in mid air can be important too. I love to hop on a surf server to warm up before I play. Jump maps are good too, but surfing builds on a different skill.

Step 2. Know what your enemy is capable of. This includes everything from how they move and how they aim to how many shots they have loaded. Counting shots is extremely important, because you can base your moves off of their ammo. If they're airborne, know the range of where they can land via airstrafing. If you can predict this kind of stuff, you can put your reticle closer to where they land.

Step 3. Metagame.
3a. First level. What you're thinking.
3b. Second level. What they're thinking.
3c. Third level. What you're thinking they're thinking.
3d. Fourth level. What they're thinking you're thinking they're thinking.

And so on. A lot of people say "be unpredictable" but it's more like predicting what they are predicting of you. Takes some practice.

Set goals and you'll get better for sure. I find that successfully completing surf maps or jump maps is one of many ways to measure your success in the realm of movement.

P.S. Hi b4nny

Also here is a repost of vhalin's scout tips for 1v1s:

just point and click bro

that's for aim, retard

I think slin nailed it, but if I'm allowed to add anything id say its important to be completely comfortable with the mechanics. The best movement is second nature, so its best not to divide your attention thinking about where to dodge. Play around and accustom yourself to situations you might never see in a game. I notice that my movement is best when its completely cerebral, and i think that just comes from hours and *being calm and comfortable*. in short, don't think about it, just make sure your playing and playing diversely.

i don't really agree with this, i think most(invite) scouts move based more off of prediction than reaction. I would say that for me, AT LEAST 60-70% of my movement is prediction.

but maybe that is why i am bad

yeah shrugger (b4nny: "oh MY GOD ... this guy cheats!! /crying") you're terrible

I've been playing some medic lately trying to learn how to bait rocket surfs. It's a useful skill to have as scout as well (watch Tvique's stream, count the "nope"s), although I haven't yet unlearned my habit of mashing doublejump immediately after being popped in the air, which kills all my momentum from the surf.

If you reactively dodge enough, you'll eventually notice patterns in enemy players that you can then predictively dodge.

A lot of scouts seem to try and circle around people, or do a half circle sort of thing then switch. It's easy to counter and easy to catch on to. It's crazy how often it works but it can be risky

for me, i try and move differently depending on how the enemy scout aims.
this takes a while to figure out though, and isnt always guaranteed to work.

Try to airstrafe all the time. You can strafe onto and off of map geometry, strafe into landing shots, strafe toward someone who your team calls to focus, etc. Playing medic helps enormously for scout. Scout is basically like super-medic, because you have that extra jump and speed to surf and dodge everything. People say that scouts move "randomly," but a good scout's movement is about as "random" as a good medic's movement--that is, not at all.

And, like anything else, practice. You aren't going to find tips that will make you relaxed, confident, and consistent in fights.

Also the quote in #14 is spot-on about being an evade tank. You can contribute a LOT to a fight without doing any damage at all just by baiting spam from the opponent.

when i asked powah about dodging, he just said hes trying to always be baiting your next shot, trying to make you rush your shot when you think you have an easy shot when you REALLY have a hard one

Baiting is key, especially as scout. Sometimes I "play dumb" to bait what should be an easy rocket/pipe/headshot but because I know when he's going to shoot it I've already moved. A lot of players shoot at max firing speed and once you get used to that rhythm you can predict when the next shot will occur, and force them to shoot at the wrong spot. You can also think about this when you're the one attacking, and oftentimes if you skip a half beat in the shooting rhythm you can get a much cleaner shot than you would have had otherwise.