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How can I improve at meat shots?
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#1
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So yeah, I'm a scout main and I feel like my overall aim is pretty decent.
When I play against good scouts in MGE, DM or PUGs I often feel like I can beat them 1v1 and at the start of the fight I'm often ahead, dealing more damage than I'm taking, thinking "yeah, I got this guy".
But as soon as they really start closing in on me to the point where you almost run into each other I lose the fight, because I tend to miss a lot of those important really close range shots, or at least more than the other guy.

I don't really know what it is.
I guess maybe I'm better at tracking than I am at flicking and meat shots require flicking, because the other player tends to go from one side of your screen to the other really fast.
I tried using a crosshair that pops out more and is harder to lose track of in those really fast motions.
Also tried to aim with my arm more so I can do wider swings with less effort.
Thought about changing my sensitivity, but I don't really want to mess with it, because like I said otherwise I'm kinda happy with my aim plus at about 9"(23cm)/360 I'm already towards the high end so I don't think it's too low to do fast flicks.
And if my sens was too high I guess mid-long range aim would be a bigger problem than meat shots.

So yeah, anyone got any ideas what I can do to get better at meat shots?

So yeah, I'm a scout main and I feel like my overall aim is pretty decent.
When I play against good scouts in MGE, DM or PUGs I often feel like I can beat them 1v1 and at the start of the fight I'm often ahead, dealing more damage than I'm taking, thinking "yeah, I got this guy".
But as soon as they really start closing in on me to the point where you almost run into each other I lose the fight, because I tend to miss a lot of those important really close range shots, or at least more than the other guy.

I don't really know what it is.
I guess maybe I'm better at tracking than I am at flicking and meat shots require flicking, because the other player tends to go from one side of your screen to the other really fast.
I tried using a crosshair that pops out more and is harder to lose track of in those really fast motions.
Also tried to aim with my arm more so I can do wider swings with less effort.
Thought about changing my sensitivity, but I don't really want to mess with it, because like I said otherwise I'm kinda happy with my aim plus at about 9"(23cm)/360 I'm already towards the high end so I don't think it's too low to do fast flicks.
And if my sens was too high I guess mid-long range aim would be a bigger problem than meat shots.

So yeah, anyone got any ideas what I can do to get better at meat shots?
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#2
19 Frags +

Just play a TON of dm, every day.

Just play a TON of dm, every day.
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#3
8 Frags +

play DM, MGE or whatever and try to put yourself in the situations you mentioned and you will get better at it, its all just about practise and a lot of it

play DM, MGE or whatever and try to put yourself in the situations you mentioned and you will get better at it, its all just about practise and a lot of it
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#4
-7 Frags +

+forward

+forward
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#5
-7 Frags +

8)

8)
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#6
-4 Frags +

strafe aim and click on the foes when they are underneath your crosshair (take your time don't be an ape like me when im on scout and try to rush every shot and end up missing)
might also just be you choking from the pressure/psyching yourself out lol

strafe aim and click on the foes when they are underneath your crosshair (take your time don't be an ape like me when im on scout and try to rush every shot and end up missing)
might also just be you choking from the pressure/psyching yourself out lol
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#7
2 Frags +

Probably a lot of it is mental; relax and be patient instead of rushing your shots and getting caught up in the frantic nature of a fight (easy to say, I know).

Probably a lot of it is mental; relax and be patient instead of rushing your shots and getting caught up in the frantic nature of a fight (easy to say, I know).
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#8
21 Frags +
Adebisirelax

Relax
Take your time

And take your time
To trust in me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity

[quote=Adebisi]relax[/quote]
Relax
Take your time

And take your time
To trust in me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity
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#9
19 Frags +

turn off damage numbers, hitsounds, use viewmodel_fov 70 and stay on the ground most of the time
bonus points if you wear a wifebeater

turn off damage numbers, hitsounds, use viewmodel_fov 70 and stay on the ground most of the time
bonus points if you wear a wifebeater
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#10
1 Frags +
wrechedddddAdebisirelaxRelax
Take your time

And take your time
To trust in me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity

Advice to live by.

Tune

[quote=wrecheddddd][quote=Adebisi]relax[/quote]
Relax
Take your time

And take your time
To trust in me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity[/quote]
Advice to live by.

Tune
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#11
2 Frags +

Try getting a smaller crosshair like a dot. Larger crosshairs help in getting more consistent medium damage shots but smaller crosshairs help clicking in the middle of the animation more therefore more meatshots i.e more precision.

Try getting a smaller crosshair like a dot. Larger crosshairs help in getting more consistent medium damage shots but smaller crosshairs help clicking in the middle of the animation more therefore more meatshots i.e more precision.
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#12
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mbaTry getting a smaller crosshair like a dot. Larger crosshairs help in getting more consistent medium damage shots but smaller crosshairs help clicking in the middle of the animation more therefore more meatshots i.e more precision.

Sorry, but I don't feel like that's good advice at all.
I'd say the opposite is the case. Small crosshair = more precision but easier to lose track of during fast flicks.
Big crosshair = less precision, but harder to lose track of.
For med/long range you need precision, but you don't have to do huger flicks.
For meat shot you don't need a lot of precision, since the guy is right in front of and will be a big target, but you need to do really fast swipes, because the guy can get behind or from one side of you to the other really fast, so you have turn around fast, which makes it more likely to lose track of your crosshair.
So a big crosshair is better for meat shots.
Also kinda gives you more time to react, since a big crosshair will touch the edge of the enemy player model slightly before it's center is on him.

[quote=mba]Try getting a smaller crosshair like a dot. Larger crosshairs help in getting more consistent medium damage shots but smaller crosshairs help clicking in the middle of the animation more therefore more meatshots i.e more precision.[/quote]

Sorry, but I don't feel like that's good advice at all.
I'd say the opposite is the case. Small crosshair = more precision but easier to lose track of during fast flicks.
Big crosshair = less precision, but harder to lose track of.
For med/long range you need precision, but you don't have to do huger flicks.
For meat shot you don't need a lot of precision, since the guy is right in front of and will be a big target, but you need to do really fast swipes, because the guy can get behind or from one side of you to the other really fast, so you have turn around fast, which makes it more likely to lose track of your crosshair.
So a big crosshair is better for meat shots.
Also kinda gives you more time to react, since a big crosshair will touch the edge of the enemy player model slightly before it's center is on him.
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#13
4 Frags +

flail wildly and if you dont hit the meatshot, bitch about hitreg

the cloudmaker strategy

flail wildly and if you dont hit the meatshot, bitch about hitreg

the cloudmaker strategy
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#14
1 Frags +

b complex beautiful lies

b complex beautiful lies
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#15
3 Frags +

you say about losing at really close range when you have done more damage, you could try not to walk really close to the guy in this case and instead finish the kill in a place he can't deal 100 damage to you. Other than that practice

you say about losing at really close range when you have done more damage, you could try not to walk really close to the guy in this case and instead finish the kill in a place he can't deal 100 damage to you. Other than that practice
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#16
9 Frags +

put your favorite dnb playlist and play at least 5hrs a day of DM, you're gonna turn into a wild sorex soon or later

put your favorite dnb playlist and play at least 5hrs a day of DM, you're gonna turn into a wild sorex soon or later
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#17
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Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.

Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.
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#18
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AdebisiOut of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.

now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.

[quote=Adebisi]Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.[/quote]
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.
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#19
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YeeHawAdebisiOut of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.

Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.

[quote=YeeHaw][quote=Adebisi]Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.[/quote]
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.[/quote]
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.
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#20
-2 Frags +

also copper is prem scout but his teammates hold him back

also copper is prem scout but his teammates hold him back
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#21
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AdebisiYeeHawAdebisiOut of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.

I don't think atomic plays anymore and I am eu so idk about na scouts

[quote=Adebisi][quote=YeeHaw][quote=Adebisi]Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.[/quote]
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.[/quote]
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.[/quote]
I don't think atomic plays anymore and I am eu so idk about na scouts
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#22
1 Frags +
AdebisiYeeHawAdebisiOut of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.

having good DM isnt what makes them prem

look at players like sorex (ok lego made playoffs but look at when they started) and hes considered one of the best DMers

[quote=Adebisi][quote=YeeHaw][quote=Adebisi]Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.[/quote]
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.[/quote]
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.[/quote]

having good DM isnt what makes them prem

look at players like sorex (ok lego made playoffs but look at when they started) and hes considered one of the best DMers
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#23
0 Frags +
SpriteAdebisiYeeHawAdebisiOut of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.

having good DM isnt what makes them prem

look at players like sorex (ok lego made playoffs but look at when they started) and hes considered one of the best DMers

Ah I just wondered as I'm very much not prem, whether the best DMers tended to be ok the very top sides or whether there were scouts at lower teams who had the best DM.

[quote=Sprite][quote=Adebisi][quote=YeeHaw][quote=Adebisi]Out of interest, which few scouts would we say had the best DM in the last few years? Is it just the scouts at the top teams or would players like Atomic feature?

You could always watch them and see how they aim or ask how they do it.[/quote]
now is my time

from having played a lot of the prem scouts in dm, the ones that stood out to me were maros + INS. puoskari is also very good. ofc this doesn't mean that they are automatically good in a game scenario as things such as confidence, play style etc. come into it.[/quote]
Ahead of the scouts who have been at top teams for a while?
.I haven't played him but as I say, I have heard and seen of Atomics dm and so I wondered if the best DM scouts necessarily played for teams like se7en, full tilt. Same in NA.[/quote]

having good DM isnt what makes them prem

look at players like sorex (ok lego made playoffs but look at when they started) and hes considered one of the best DMers[/quote]

Ah I just wondered as I'm very much not prem, whether the best DMers tended to be ok the very top sides or whether there were scouts at lower teams who had the best DM.
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#24
0 Frags +
wrechedddddAdebisirelaxRelax
Take your time

And take your time
To Queef on me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity
[quote=wrecheddddd][quote=Adebisi]relax[/quote]
Relax
Take your time

And take your time
To Queef on me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity[/quote]
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