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i58 - Schedule Set
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#31
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Crayonwhat happens at the tournament briefing/ is it essential to attend?

Yeah I will miss it due to my plane time, what does it entail?

[quote=Crayon]what happens at the tournament briefing/ is it essential to attend?[/quote]

Yeah I will miss it due to my plane time, what does it entail?
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#32
4 Frags +

It won't be crucial but bottom line is i'll say things there (i.e. regarding scheduling, how to find servers, communication info) that if you then miss something "I didn't know my game was now" type of shit won't get you anywhere. With the swiss system being used for open groups this year *all* fixtures will get held up by late games so i'm keen to keep everything in line.

Pretty much all the main information prior to the event i'll try post here, fixtures you will find on battlefy, no idea how servers are being managed yet, and mainly there will be an event discord. If you're not on discord you'll miss stuff, but everything mentioned in a briefing will definitely be on discord.

It's usually more useful when we end up with event delays, it's good for people asking questions, maybe if you want to know what the admins look like when you end up wanting to pester them later... lots of people do miss them because it's usually kinda early anyway.

(I have to give a briefing, and it's far more useful for other tournaments, but as a close community all the information should be out there already)

It won't be crucial but bottom line is i'll say things there (i.e. regarding scheduling, how to find servers, communication info) that if you then miss something "I didn't know my game was now" type of shit won't get you anywhere. With the swiss system being used for open groups this year *all* fixtures will get held up by late games so i'm keen to keep everything in line.

Pretty much all the main information prior to the event i'll try post here, fixtures you will find on battlefy, no idea how servers are being managed yet, and mainly there will be an event discord. If you're not on discord you'll miss stuff, but everything mentioned in a briefing will definitely be on discord.

It's usually more useful when we end up with event delays, it's good for people asking questions, maybe if you want to know what the admins look like when you end up wanting to pester them later... lots of people do miss them because it's usually kinda early anyway.

(I have to give a briefing, and it's far more useful for other tournaments, but as a close community all the information should be out there already)
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#33
13 Frags +

Tournament Sign Up Page

Can I just remind teams that they will need to have signed up on the page above before tournament start (Friday 12 pm BST). I'd recommend doing this before the event given there's never a guarantee there will be internet at the event etc. and with players suffering travel delays it won't be the first time teams haven't been able to sign up.

I am currently trying to get an idea of fixtures for the invite group so froyotech, comfortably spanked, full tilt, and crowns all need to sign up still. Without at least 3 of those signed up it doesn't look like I can predict anything (as fixtures appear to generate based on registration order in a round robin). Ideally we can put this out before the event so you'll know what is being streamed and when.

For non-invite teams there is an intention to run a swiss-style open group however depending on numbers this does risk not leaving us enough time to play this out properly. With only two promotion spots available i'd rather have the time to have a play-off as required rather than make decisions based on win difference, for instance. Knowing numbers would be very helpful!

I believe you need all 6 (or more) of your players on your roster before you can actually sign the team up so please give everyone a poke! Get it out of the way and done with then all you need to do is turn up on the day :)

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As a side note, hopefully this should be obvious but to highlight any abuse of bugs and exploits is forbidden. The current hud_reloadscheme issues causing lag spikes will be penalised under this if used during fights or at any point intended to provide an advantage, just to be clear.

[url=https://battlefy.com/insomniateamfortress2/%5Bi58-lan%5D-%C2%A35000-tf2-open/576ba40600aeb4270c59df2e/teams]Tournament Sign Up Page[/url]

Can I just remind teams that they will need to have signed up on the page above before tournament start (Friday 12 pm BST). I'd recommend doing this before the event given there's never a guarantee there will be internet at the event etc. and with players suffering travel delays it won't be the first time teams haven't been able to sign up.

I am currently trying to get an idea of fixtures for the invite group so froyotech, comfortably spanked, full tilt, and crowns all need to sign up still. Without at least 3 of those signed up it doesn't look like I can predict anything (as fixtures appear to generate based on registration order in a round robin). Ideally we can put this out before the event so you'll know what is being streamed and when.

For non-invite teams there is an intention to run a swiss-style open group however depending on numbers this does risk not leaving us enough time to play this out properly. With only two promotion spots available i'd rather have the time to have a play-off as required rather than make decisions based on win difference, for instance. Knowing numbers would be very helpful!

I believe you need all 6 (or more) of your players on your roster before you can actually sign the team up so please give everyone a poke! Get it out of the way and done with then all you need to do is turn up on the day :)

---
As a side note, hopefully this should be obvious but to highlight any abuse of bugs and exploits is forbidden. The current hud_reloadscheme issues causing lag spikes will be penalised under this if used during fights or at any point intended to provide an advantage, just to be clear.
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#34
whitelist.tf
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whitelist.tf/i58 << Essentially the ETF2L whitelist as a preset for i58

[url=http://whitelist.tf/i58]whitelist.tf/i58[/url] << Essentially the ETF2L whitelist as a preset for i58
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#35
-38 Frags +

can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams

can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams
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#36
-1 Frags +

there's no tf2 channel in the discord and the invitation here points to the csgo-open. are we using that one?

there's no tf2 channel in the discord and the invitation [url=https://battlefy.com/insomniateamfortress2/%5Bi58-lan%5D-%C2%A35000-tf2-open/576ba40600aeb4270c59df2e/info]here[/url] points to the csgo-open. are we using that one?
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#37
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campercan you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams

With respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.

[quote=camper]can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams[/quote]
With respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.
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#38
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uberchaincampercan you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streamsWith respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.

Hey I've always liked the skins, and commend you guys for working so hard on them. People really don't appreciate the effort that goes into it, and with a lot of people who are new to 6s watching, it'll help them differentiate teams when they swap sides, so you're helping a lot more than just aesthetics.

[quote=uberchain][quote=camper]can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams[/quote]
With respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.[/quote]

Hey I've always liked the skins, and commend you guys for working so hard on them. People really don't appreciate the effort that goes into it, and with a lot of people who are new to 6s watching, it'll help them differentiate teams when they swap sides, so you're helping a lot more than just aesthetics.
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#39
-11 Frags +

Custom team textures on containers and shit is cool, team models.. Not so much. A lot of colors clash with blue/red, granted some of them look cool. I'd definitely look into map advertisement more so than player models (outside of posters).

Hell even if they're unpaid, random TF2-relevant logos on shit around the map would make it seem more like a global thing and not 12 idiots running around in a x year old game.

Custom team textures on containers and shit is cool, team models.. Not so much. A lot of colors clash with blue/red, granted some of them look cool. I'd definitely look into map advertisement more so than player models (outside of posters).

Hell even if they're unpaid, random TF2-relevant logos on shit around the map would make it seem more like a global thing and not 12 idiots running around in a x year old game.
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#40
-1 Frags +

Reckoner is taking the place of Granary in this rotation and hopefully it can live up to Granary's past exciting matches. I know most people frown upon Granary for one reason or another but the fact is it has never been a boring map to watch during any i-Series in the past.

Infact, there have been a large number of matches on Granary that have been way more exciting to watch than any other map when the best teams in the world play at I-Series.

I am blind

[s]Reckoner is taking the place of Granary in this rotation and hopefully it can live up to Granary's past exciting matches. I know most people frown upon Granary for one reason or another but the fact is it has never been a boring map to watch during any i-Series in the past.

Infact, there have been a large number of matches on Granary that have been way more exciting to watch than any other map when the best teams in the world play at I-Series.[/s]

I am blind
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#41
3 Frags +
SpaceCadetReckoner is taking the place of Granary in this rotationnymthaeMap Pool

cp_badlands
cp_snakewater_u13
cp_process_final
koth_product_rc8
cp_reckoner_b3
cp_gullywash_final1
cp_granary_pro_rc4

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[quote=SpaceCadet]Reckoner is taking the place of Granary in this rotation[/quote]
[quote=nymthae]Map Pool

cp_badlands
cp_snakewater_u13
cp_process_final
koth_product_rc8
[b]cp_reckoner_b3[/b]
cp_gullywash_final1
[b]cp_granary_pro_rc4[/b][/quote]
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#42
4 Frags +

There's a discord here that's being set up for the event so please join this for information

I'll try get the link on that page changed, I still don't have access on there. I haven't been told whether or not there was a more global one for the event and all BYOC tournaments so just easier to roll with our own above.

[url=https://discord.gg/qXk3zYd]There's a discord here[/url] that's being set up for the event so please join this for information

I'll try get the link on that page changed, I still don't have access on there. I haven't been told whether or not there was a more global one for the event and all BYOC tournaments so just easier to roll with our own above.
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#43
newbie.tf
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uberchaincampercan you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streamsWith respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.

what he said was not smart either way, but i think he meant weapon skins

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the player skins look epic uberchain ty for being awesome
[quote=uberchain][quote=camper]can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams[/quote]
With respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.[/quote]
what he said was not smart either way, but i think he meant weapon skins

[spoiler]the player skins look epic uberchain ty for being awesome[/spoiler]
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#44
11 Frags +

Will there be an STV? I like choosing who i watch :)

Will there be an STV? I like choosing who i watch :)
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#45
0 Frags +

No live STVs will be publicly exposed.

No live STVs will be publicly exposed.
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#46
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KevinIsPwnuberchaincampercan you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streamsWith respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.what he said was not smart either way, but i think he meant weapon skins
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the player skins look epic uberchain ty for being awesome

In that case I would have to agree with him. The weapon skins are pretty ugly a lot of the time.

[quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=uberchain][quote=camper]can you please ban skins honestly they look ugly on streams[/quote]
With respect towards personal taste and knowing not everybody likes them (which is absolutely fine, we did it this year due to enough demand), you can have no skins back when me and my team keel over from our all-nighters of editing 120+ textures and attaching those to 36 Steam ID-hexed StatusSpec models. You're probably in luck since I don't ever intend on putting myself or my team through that hell again.[/quote]
what he said was not smart either way, but i think he meant weapon skins

[spoiler]the player skins look epic uberchain ty for being awesome[/spoiler][/quote]

In that case I would have to agree with him. The weapon skins are pretty ugly a lot of the time.
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#47
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Wiethoofdwhitelist.tf/i58 << Essentially the ETF2L whitelist as a preset for i58

Sorry I got to ask this. I am new to this whole "pro" scene and just wanted to ask why is so many taunts banned?
I understand that box trot is banned bc that is so broken

[quote=Wiethoofd][url=http://whitelist.tf/i58]whitelist.tf/i58[/url] << Essentially the ETF2L whitelist as a preset for i58[/quote]
Sorry I got to ask this. I am new to this whole "pro" scene and just wanted to ask why is so many taunts banned?
I understand that box trot is banned bc that is so broken
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#48
1 Frags +

Many taunts that allow you to hold a button to be in the taunt for an are banned because they allow you to see around corners giving players with these items a very large advantage. Other taunts that work for an extended amount of time and allow you to move during taunting both mess up your hitboxes and have been associated with a whole host of other bugs in the past, being able to move whilst taunting is in general pretty buggy in tf2.

Many taunts that allow you to hold a button to be in the taunt for an are banned because they allow you to see around corners giving players with these items a very large advantage. Other taunts that work for an extended amount of time and allow you to move during taunting both mess up your hitboxes and have been associated with a whole host of other bugs in the past, being able to move whilst taunting is in general pretty buggy in tf2.
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#49
whitelist.tf
0 Frags +

taunt bans tldr: only weapon & taunt items with set duration are allowed (they end automatically)

taunt bans tldr: only weapon & taunt items with set duration are allowed (they end automatically)
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#50
-5 Frags +

tbh cozy camper should be unbanned, it's pretty balanced now imo

tbh cozy camper should be unbanned, it's pretty balanced now imo
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#51
10 Frags +

Valve should plaster the schedule all over the game main menu.

Ram it down everyone's throats.

Valve [i]should[/i] plaster the schedule all over the game main menu.

Ram it down everyone's throats.
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#52
6 Frags +

at what time does the stream start?

at what time does the stream start?
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#53
1 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItjqX9f-mIU

when does extine eat?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItjqX9f-mIU[/youtube] when does extine eat?
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#54
2 Frags +

If you are at the event a small reminder... There's a discord here that's being set up for the event so please join this for information

There's also an event-wide discord which can be found on the bit of paper with your seat/name on if you're interested in that.

Servers are currently being sorted out for the tournament so right now no local fun or mumble ones are done yet (priorities!)

If you're registered on battlefy then do check in if you're here at the event. If you've not yet registered try get a move on, signups are due to close in 30 mins although I don't have access (still) so I won't be doing it but I can't promise someone Multiplay-side won't do a global closing of all tournament signups.

Join discord!

If you are at the event a small reminder... [url=https://discord.gg/qXk3zYd]There's a discord here[/url] that's being set up for the event so please join this for information

There's also an event-wide discord which can be found on the bit of paper with your seat/name on if you're interested in that.

Servers are currently being sorted out for the tournament so right now no local fun or mumble ones are done yet (priorities!)

If you're registered on battlefy then do check in if you're here at the event. If you've not yet registered try get a move on, signups are due to close in 30 mins although I don't have access (still) so I won't be doing it but I can't promise someone Multiplay-side won't do a global closing of all tournament signups.
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Join discord![/b]
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#55
3 Frags +

will the stv demos be uploaded somewhere at the end of the day? or do we have to wait til the whole tournament is over?
i dont think i can make it in time to watch the stream and watching stv's seems like the best solution for me (limited data and dont want to use it all on vods fml)

will the stv demos be uploaded somewhere at the end of the day? or do we have to wait til the whole tournament is over?
i dont think i can make it in time to watch the stream and watching stv's seems like the best solution for me (limited data and dont want to use it all on vods fml)
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#56
-15 Frags +

honestly at i58 i feel like games should be played with the american rule set. fuck those 30 min stalemates and parking the bus techniques

honestly at i58 i feel like games should be played with the american rule set. fuck those 30 min stalemates and parking the bus techniques
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#57
8 Frags +
nonamenopasswordhonestly at i58 i feel like games should be played with the american rule set. fuck those 30 min stalemates and parking the bus techniques

How can a stalemate ever be 30 minutes long if the entire match is 30 minutes long and you need to get ahead first to park the bus? Both rule sets are equally prone to stalemates because one of the win conditions is being ahead when the timer hits 0, except with EU rules you only have to watch it for 30 minutes instead of 2x 30 minutes.

And before you say "but they can get to 5 and win that way", that is complete non-sense as well because the entire situation arose in the first place because neither of the teams felt confident enough to push their advantage home and score rounds. If they did, they would try to push for mercy rule in EU, or build a bigger cushion regardless of the rule set used. It's literally the same except EU isn't preceded by 30 more minutes of possible stalemates.

[quote=nonamenopassword]honestly at i58 i feel like games should be played with the american rule set. fuck those 30 min stalemates and parking the bus techniques[/quote]
How can a stalemate ever be 30 minutes long if the entire match is 30 minutes long and you need to get ahead first to park the bus? Both rule sets are equally prone to stalemates [b]because one of the win conditions is being ahead when the timer hits 0[/b], except with EU rules you only have to watch it for 30 minutes instead of 2x 30 minutes.

And before you say "but they can get to 5 and win that way", that is complete non-sense as well because the entire situation arose in the first place because neither of the teams felt confident enough to push their advantage home and score rounds. If they did, they would try to push for mercy rule in EU, or build a bigger cushion regardless of the rule set used. It's literally the same except EU isn't preceded by [i]30 more minutes of possible stalemates[/i].
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#58
3 Frags +
camperwill the stv demos be uploaded somewhere at the end of the day? or do we have to wait til the whole tournament is over?

this?

[quote=camper]will the stv demos be uploaded somewhere at the end of the day? or do we have to wait til the whole tournament is over?
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this?
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#59
0 Frags +

Have any of the teams picked reckoner yet? The only maps I have seen are: Process, Badlands, and granary really. ?

Have any of the teams picked reckoner yet? The only maps I have seen are: Process, Badlands, and granary really. ?
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#60
2 Frags +

There were no map picks for the groups - everything was predetermined.

There were no map picks for the groups - everything was predetermined.
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