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#181
12 Frags +

all out of codes, anyone who has codes should post itt though

also some suggested changes for the system

  • on your stats page, have healing and damage stats changed to healing per minute and damage per minute. should be fairly easy to change, as the duration of every match is already recorded, and this would allow for more relevant stat charting and comparisons over time.
  • maybe extend the ready up time slightly, 5 minutes is fairly short and i had more than one game last night where people were slow to load in and got temp banned because of it.

also im sure you guys are aware of the ready-up bug which causes the game to never start, i think its caused by someone unreadying after everyone readies up but before the game starts. a temp solution to this would be allowing players to close a lobby before it starts by majority vote, so that every time it happens people dont need to contact support.

[b]all out of codes, anyone who has codes should post itt though[/b]



also some suggested changes for the system
[list]
[*] on your stats page, have healing and damage stats changed to healing per minute and damage per minute. should be fairly easy to change, as the duration of every match is already recorded, and this would allow for more relevant stat charting and comparisons over time.
[*] maybe extend the ready up time slightly, 5 minutes is fairly short and i had more than one game last night where people were slow to load in and got temp banned because of it.
[/list]

also im sure you guys are aware of the ready-up bug which causes the game to never start, i think its caused by someone unreadying after everyone readies up but before the game starts. a temp solution to this would be allowing players to close a lobby before it starts by majority vote, so that every time it happens people dont need to contact support.
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#182
0 Frags +

how does one acquire a beta code?
are there going to be more released so people can actually play in the cup tn?

how does one acquire a beta code?
are there going to be more released so people can actually play in the cup tn?
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#183
4 Frags +
bearodactylhow does one acquire a beta code?
are there going to be more released so people can actually play in the cup tn?

For now, you'll need to find somebody who's already in the beta, and give them your email. They can send you one of their 5 allowed invitations. You should be able to find somebody in the discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/tf2faceit

edit: replaced instant invite link with permanent link, ty googler

[quote=bearodactyl]how does one acquire a beta code?
are there going to be more released so people can actually play in the cup tn?[/quote]
For now, you'll need to find somebody who's already in the beta, and give them your email. They can send you one of their 5 allowed invitations. You should be able to find somebody in the discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/tf2faceit

edit: replaced instant invite link with permanent link, ty googler
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#184
6 Frags +

There is a custom discord link now - https://discordapp.com/invite/tf2faceit

There is a custom discord link now - https://discordapp.com/invite/tf2faceit
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#185
9 Frags +

Only 2 teams in the tourney today guys join up

https://www.faceit.com/en/tf2/tournament/292ff55f-94eb-4860-bb8c-c40cccae1d1a

Only 2 teams in the tourney today guys join up

https://www.faceit.com/en/tf2/tournament/292ff55f-94eb-4860-bb8c-c40cccae1d1a
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#186
4 Frags +

Anyone want to create a team for tourney? Still only two teams, looking pretty dire.

Anyone want to create a team for tourney? Still only two teams, looking pretty dire.
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#187
4 Frags +

If you can't find a team you can still add up as soio/group

If you can't find a team you can still add up as soio/group
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#188
3 Frags +
saamIf you can't find a team you can still add up as soio/group

That's what I'm doing but I'm the only one solo queuing....

[quote=saam]If you can't find a team you can still add up as soio/group[/quote]

That's what I'm doing but I'm the only one solo queuing....
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#189
5 Frags +

I'm queued up, too

I'm queued up, too
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#190
9 Frags +

pugs are all super stacked and everyone of mine at least has been a 5-0 roll. The interface seems solid though and I'm happy I can use it in the ingame browser

pugs are all super stacked and everyone of mine at least has been a 5-0 roll. The interface seems solid though and I'm happy I can use it in the ingame browser
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#191
-8 Frags +

Yeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed

Yeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed
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#192
16 Frags +
micspamYeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed

I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.

Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found

[quote=micspam]Yeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed[/quote]


I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.

Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found
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#193
2 Frags +
saammicspamYeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed

I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.

Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found

not a lot of people even know about this yet. Beyond that some people see closed beta and think its hard to get in. There is also no cue on the website to use discord, so some people think there is no voice comms which isn't fun. There is a lot of work to do and atm its hard to get people to leave the more functional sites (tf2c) for an beta that has several somewhat confusing problems. Once this is finished it will be more functional than tf2c and lower skill peeps such as myself will get games unlike pugchamp

(unrelated to quote now I guess)
The biggest problem overall seems to be the fact that mixchamp exists. They are both occupying (or hoping to eventually occupy) the fast, balanced, not invite level pugs. I personally think that faceit will have more functionalities with the cups and such so I don't really see the point of mixchamp continuing once this is done.

[quote=saam][quote=micspam]Yeah when I woke up this morning I thought to myself "I want to get rolled in 6s today by some Invite teams stacking in a 5 dollar prize pool tournament"

XD RIP Razer Arena you will be missed[/quote]


I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.

Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found[/quote]

not a lot of people even know about this yet. Beyond that some people see closed beta and think its hard to get in. There is also no cue on the website to use discord, so some people think there is no voice comms which isn't fun. There is a lot of work to do and atm its hard to get people to leave the more functional sites (tf2c) for an beta that has several somewhat confusing problems. Once this is finished it will be more functional than tf2c and lower skill peeps such as myself will get games unlike pugchamp


(unrelated to quote now I guess)
The biggest problem overall seems to be the fact that mixchamp exists. They are both occupying (or hoping to eventually occupy) the fast, balanced, not invite level pugs. I personally think that faceit will have more functionalities with the cups and such so I don't really see the point of mixchamp continuing once this is done.
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#194
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saamI mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.

Thats a downside not a benefit.

Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found

"Yeah you won't win but hey if you can convince enough people your skill level to sign up you might have some close matches"

You know why no other esport on FaceIt's platform has this issue, its because the highest tier of players literally cannot afford to waste the time in small scale tournaments beating up random shitters.

So when people say TF2 has a lack of support, we're talking about at the high end and the low end of the player-skillbase, not the lack of conglomerate tournament systems that are trying to attract the average player AND invite players at the same time

[quote=saam]
I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.
[/quote]
Thats a downside not a benefit.
[quote]
Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found[/quote]
"Yeah you won't win but hey if you can convince enough people your skill level to sign up you might have some close matches"

You know why no other esport on FaceIt's platform has this issue, its because the highest tier of players [b]literally[/b] cannot afford to waste the time in small scale tournaments beating up random shitters.

So when people say TF2 has a lack of support, we're talking about at the high end and the low end of the player-skillbase, not the lack of conglomerate tournament systems that are trying to attract the average player AND invite players at the same time
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#195
11 Frags +

if you want more people to sign up for these tourneys you should definitely advertise them more
had i not read 7 pages into this thread i wouldn't have even known this was happening today
maybe you could get someone on the tftv staff to hook you up with an article or put it in the upcoming events?
or just make a thread for every cup with the times and stuff

if you want more people to sign up for these tourneys you should definitely advertise them more
had i not read 7 pages into this thread i wouldn't have even known this was happening today
maybe you could get someone on the tftv staff to hook you up with an article or put it in the upcoming events?
or just make a thread for every cup with the times and stuff
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#196
11 Frags +

I mean you're not going to win open either but you play that too

Only 3 teams will win a division this season and there's like 75+ teams in ESEA, and I promise you low open teams get rolled just as hard by high open teams as they do by high invite teams.

I mean you're not going to win open either but you play that too

Only 3 teams will win a division this season and there's like 75+ teams in ESEA, and I promise you low open teams get rolled just as hard by high open teams as they do by high invite teams.
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#197
10 Frags +
micspamsaamI mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.Thats a downside not a benefit.Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found"Yeah you won't win but hey if you can convince enough people your skill level to sign up you might have some close matches"

You know why no other esport on FaceIt's platform has this issue, its because the highest tier of players literally cannot afford to waste the time in small scale tournaments beating up random shitters.

So when people say TF2 has a lack of support, we're talking about at the high end and the low end of the player-skillbase, not the lack of conglomerate tournament systems that are trying to attract the average player AND invite players at the same time

But don't be surprised when this dies because of this attitude.

CorsaNot sure what exactly is happening with this but if this is actually a usual tourney like cs, so many people have said it already: low level teams have to sign up or it'll die, and here's your reason. AvastNothing is wrong with lower level teams wanting to play against people closer to your skill level as practice but don't act surprised/disappointed when these cups die because you don't sign up.

Fact #1: if more open teams just signed up for the cups they would be not only be enjoyable for lower level teams but more successful.
Fact #2: games you get stomped on by super strong teams you can still learn instead of whining about how much better they are than you I gurantee from first hand experience and the experience of many others

There is an online cup for OW tomorrow where many of the current professional teams will be playing (like 4 or more) and they are leagues better than everyone else currently. Guess how many teams there are? 64. They know they're going to get smashed (I wanted to play and get smashed too but it filled too quickly) yet everyone is eagerly going to play Bc the point of cups as a low level team is exposure and improvement.

the only thing holding back these cups for being enjoyable for low level teams is the low level teams

On top of this, matches are good practice even if you're going to lose; teams play differently in matches than scrims, and the more you play matches, the more comfortable you'll be (if you tend to get nervous).

Let's not forget that the bigger this gets, there will be opportunities for lower level teams to win, like in csgo, because of a creation of a pro division, for example.

[quote=micspam][quote=saam]
I mean it's not like the IM stacks are going to be super tryhard against open teams they're gunna be offclassing.
[/quote]
Thats a downside not a benefit.
[quote]
Also if more open teams actually signed up then you would play eachother in the early stages. So many people cry about the lack of support for TF2 and then when something like this shows up they're nowhere to be found[/quote]
"Yeah you won't win but hey if you can convince enough people your skill level to sign up you might have some close matches"

You know why no other esport on FaceIt's platform has this issue, its because the highest tier of players [b]literally[/b] cannot afford to waste the time in small scale tournaments beating up random shitters.

So when people say TF2 has a lack of support, we're talking about at the high end and the low end of the player-skillbase, not the lack of conglomerate tournament systems that are trying to attract the average player AND invite players at the same time[/quote]

But don't be surprised when this dies because of this attitude.

[quote=Corsa]Not sure what exactly is happening with this but if this is actually a usual tourney like cs, so many people have said it already: [b]low level teams have to sign up or it'll die, [/b]and here's your reason.
[quote=Avast]Nothing is wrong with lower level teams wanting to play against people closer to your skill level as practice but don't act surprised/disappointed when these cups die because you don't sign up.

Fact #1: if more open teams just signed up for the cups they would be not only be enjoyable for lower level teams but more successful.
Fact #2: games you get stomped on by super strong teams you can still learn instead of whining about how much better they are than you I gurantee from first hand experience and the experience of many others

There is an online cup for OW tomorrow where many of the current professional teams will be playing (like 4 or more) and they are leagues better than everyone else currently. Guess how many teams there are? 64. They know they're going to get smashed (I wanted to play and get smashed too but it filled too quickly) yet everyone is eagerly going to play Bc the point of cups as a low level team is exposure and improvement.

the only thing holding back these cups for being enjoyable for low level teams is the low level teams[/quote]

On top of this, matches are good practice even if you're going to lose; teams play differently in matches than scrims, and the more you play matches, the more comfortable you'll be (if you tend to get nervous).[/quote]

Let's not forget that the bigger this gets, there will be opportunities for lower level teams to win, like in csgo, because of a creation of a pro division, for example.
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#198
-2 Frags +

People new to comp might not be willing to help expand TF2's competitive side and just want to play against people of similar skill.
There are a lot of High and Prem teams that can enter this and have a healthy tournament with a reasonable amount of teams.
I mean if experienced players can't even bother signing their teams up for something that might be potentially good for TF2 why should low level teams sign up?

People new to comp might not be willing to help expand TF2's competitive side and just want to play against people of similar skill.
There are a lot of High and Prem teams that can enter this and have a healthy tournament with a reasonable amount of teams.
I mean if experienced players can't even bother signing their teams up for something that might be potentially good for TF2 why should low level teams sign up?
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#199
6 Frags +
biskuitI mean if experienced players can't even bother signing their teams up for something that might be potentially good for TF2 why should low level teams sign up?

dishsoap's team was the only team that didn't have invite players on it
i agree that there should be more teams signing up for it but you're just trying to make excuses not to sign up
also can we get rid of this notion of things being 'good for tf2' please
its true that with this and the razer cups there was a chance that tons of teams could sign up and it could take off and make it big
but you should play tf2 for the sake of playing tf2 not in an attempt to validate it as a legitimate esport
clearly the problem is that there's either not enough awareness/advertising beforehand or the players would legitimately rather just play pugchamp instead of taking 5 minutes out of their day to register and sign up for faceit

[quote=biskuit]
I mean if experienced players can't even bother signing their teams up for something that might be potentially good for TF2 why should low level teams sign up?[/quote]
dishsoap's team was the only team that didn't have invite players on it
i agree that there should be more teams signing up for it but you're just trying to make excuses not to sign up
also can we get rid of this notion of things being 'good for tf2' please
its true that with this and the razer cups there was a chance that tons of teams could sign up and it could take off and make it big
but you should play tf2 for the sake of playing tf2 not in an attempt to validate it as a legitimate esport
clearly the problem is that there's either not enough awareness/advertising beforehand or the players would legitimately rather just play pugchamp instead of taking 5 minutes out of their day to register and sign up for faceit
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#200
0 Frags +

I tried to sign up but my region was forced set to EU after an admin had helped me set it to NA the 1st time. It's locked atm until the 7th but i don't know why after I had already set it to NA.

I tried to sign up but my region was forced set to EU after an admin had helped me set it to NA the 1st time. It's locked atm until the 7th but i don't know why after I had already set it to NA.
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#201
3 Frags +

i have some invites pm your email address

i have some invites pm your email address
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#202
3 Frags +

I also have some too, hmu for 1

I also have some too, hmu for 1
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#203
3 Frags +

same here, hmu
Ran out of invites

same here, hmu
Ran out of invites
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#204
0 Frags +

There's gotta be a line for having only high level players playing though. I'm already having trouble getting my friends to play with me since a ton of people play one game, get rolled by 6 invite/im players who run shitty unfun gimmicks, and then refuse to come back. It's not like they all come play at once; they trickle in a few at a time and get turned back as they get rolled. The solution should be as simple as high level players NOT queuing with each other. Just queue at the same time instead and you can get teams with good players on both sides. Sure it might be more frustrating that you have a shitty player or two on your team, but it'll do a better job of keeping those lower level people interested.

There's gotta be a line for having only high level players playing though. I'm already having trouble getting my friends to play with me since a ton of people play one game, get rolled by 6 invite/im players who run shitty unfun gimmicks, and then refuse to come back. It's not like they all come play at once; they trickle in a few at a time and get turned back as they get rolled. The solution should be as simple as high level players NOT queuing with each other. Just queue at the same time instead and you can get teams with good players on both sides. Sure it might be more frustrating that you have a shitty player or two on your team, but it'll do a better job of keeping those lower level people interested.
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#205
8 Frags +

attn: low level players
you can play against noobs all day and stay inside your comfort zone and maybe slightly increase your own level of play, or you can step outside your comfort zone and get smashed by pros and learn new stuff. its called adaptation. eventually, those pros arent going to be rolling you as easily because you will become a more competent opponent. i mean shit its not like its a real life fight where your life is in danger, its a video game. just take the beating and try to learn from it and be grateful that good players are still playing this game.

attn: low level players
you can play against noobs all day and stay inside your comfort zone and maybe slightly increase your own level of play, or you can step outside your comfort zone and get smashed by pros and learn new stuff. its called adaptation. eventually, those pros arent going to be rolling you as easily because you will become a more competent opponent. i mean shit its not like its a real life fight where your life is in danger, its a video game. just take the beating and try to learn from it and be grateful that good players are still playing this game.
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#206
-4 Frags +
ILLEGALELEPHANTGUNattn: low level players
you can play against noobs all day and stay inside your comfort zone and maybe slightly increase your own level of play, or you can step outside your comfort zone and get smashed by pros and learn new stuff. its called adaptation. eventually, those pros arent going to be rolling you as easily because you will become a more competent opponent. i mean shit its not like its a real life fight where your life is in danger, its a video game. just take the beating and try to learn from it and be grateful that good players are still playing this game.

thats a nice concept

but it doesnt actually keep people playing the game

[quote=ILLEGALELEPHANTGUN]attn: low level players
you can play against noobs all day and stay inside your comfort zone and maybe slightly increase your own level of play, or you can step outside your comfort zone and get smashed by pros and learn new stuff. its called adaptation. eventually, those pros arent going to be rolling you as easily because you will become a more competent opponent. i mean shit its not like its a real life fight where your life is in danger, its a video game. just take the beating and try to learn from it and be grateful that good players are still playing this game.[/quote]

thats a nice concept

but it doesnt actually keep people playing the game
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#207
7 Frags +

do you think every time i have to play ORLY (top 100 player) at my melee weekly i just resign it away? no, i get excited because i get to see how better i've become since the last time, i get to see how he plays and adapts. same thing here.

another thing: whenever there's some sort of prize on the line of course top players will be playing. faceit isn't really meant as a platform where you can just get friends together and dick around, nor is it really meant to introduce players to competitive. it's somewhere inbetween TF2Center and ESEA; not really a league, but not just a super pick-up-and-play experience.

also, faceit has ranks and such so things like this should iron out over time anyway

do you think every time i have to play ORLY (top 100 player) at my melee weekly i just resign it away? no, i get excited because i get to see how better i've become since the last time, i get to see how he plays and adapts. same thing here.

another thing: whenever there's some sort of prize on the line of course top players will be playing. faceit isn't really meant as a platform where you can just get friends together and dick around, nor is it really meant to introduce players to competitive. it's somewhere inbetween TF2Center and ESEA; not really a league, but not just a super pick-up-and-play experience.

also, faceit has ranks and such so things like this should iron out over time anyway
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#208
14 Frags +

i'm gonna grind faceit pugs for 3 years straight just to get that fiat

i'm gonna grind faceit pugs for 3 years straight just to get that fiat
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#209
-1 Frags +

Yo I haven't actually sent out any of my invites yet lol.
Msg me.

Yo I haven't actually sent out any of my invites yet lol.
Msg me.
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#210
0 Frags +

:D

:D
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