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im dropping out of college
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being a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore

I have $5000 ish in student loans to pay off, whats the best job for someone with no degree who doesn't pay rent?

being a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore

I have $5000 ish in student loans to pay off, whats the best job for someone with no degree who doesn't pay rent?
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overwatch analyst

overwatch analyst
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/33382/drop-out#3

http://www.teamfortress.tv/33382/drop-out#3
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that's high school

my degree is basically useless unless i teach or go to grad school so there's no point in paying for 2-3 more semesters

that's high school

my degree is basically useless unless i teach or go to grad school so there's no point in paying for 2-3 more semesters
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don't

don't
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#6
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finish what you started imo

finish what you started imo
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If you are not paying rent or utilities, literally ANY legit paying job with medical benefits fits your criteria. I guess you would have more options if you are covered under your parents medical insurance.

Many years ago, I started out as a basic Teller for a local bank and worked my way up from there. No degree required for that position and most banks offer decent medical benefits. Maybe look into that

If you are not paying rent or utilities, literally ANY legit paying job with medical benefits fits your criteria. I guess you would have more options if you are covered under your parents medical insurance.

Many years ago, I started out as a basic Teller for a local bank and worked my way up from there. No degree required for that position and most banks offer decent medical benefits. Maybe look into that
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#8
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You're even more than halfway thru whats the point of dropping out NOW
Just finish it and then think what you want in your life

You're even more than halfway thru whats the point of dropping out NOW
Just finish it and then think what you want in your life
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finish: probably get pressured into going to med school where I'll graduate w/ $200k of debt and crippling self hatred
drop out: have an associates and $5k in debt

finish: probably get pressured into going to med school where I'll graduate w/ $200k of debt and crippling self hatred
drop out: have an associates and $5k in debt
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well theres a difference between having an associates and being a complete drop out

you can actually get plenty of decent jobs with that, here in columbus you can work at the nestle labs or abbott or like a hundred other places and get over 30k+ salary

well theres a difference between having an associates and being a complete drop out

you can actually get plenty of decent jobs with that, here in columbus you can work at the nestle labs or abbott or like a hundred other places and get over 30k+ salary
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What doctor degree are you in school for if you are not in med school yet?

What doctor degree are you in school for if you are not in med school yet?
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?

Nah i just am doing a bio/chem double major but theres really no reason to finish if im not going to med school. My gpa and shit would get me in but idk if itd make me happy

?

Nah i just am doing a bio/chem double major but theres really no reason to finish if im not going to med school. My gpa and shit would get me in but idk if itd make me happy
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eeebeing a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore

I think to get a better idea of what you want to do in the future, and how this decision and the others that follow will affect that (whichever way you decide) will be informed by answering this question- What do you want from your future jobs and career?

[quote=eee]being a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore[/quote]
I think to get a better idea of what you want to do in the future, and how this decision and the others that follow will affect that (whichever way you decide) will be informed by answering this question- What do you want from your future jobs and career?
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wait where does this "get pressured to go to med school to come from" and why wouldn't you be equally pressured to "go back to school" if you were drop out

i've always been a firm believer that there should be alternatives to going to college for many people (bc of seeing people cheat/struggle in school) but if you're doing fine + almost done + "pressure to continue to med school" is the primary obstacle for you (???) then i'm sort of struggling to see how you're deciding this

it's sad but 5k in loans, all said and done, is fairly small for a US student

wait where does this "get pressured to go to med school to come from" and why wouldn't you be equally pressured to "go back to school" if you were drop out

i've always been a firm believer that there should be alternatives to going to college for many people (bc of seeing people cheat/struggle in school) but if you're doing fine + almost done + "pressure to continue to med school" is the primary obstacle for you (???) then i'm sort of struggling to see how you're deciding this

it's sad but 5k in loans, all said and done, is fairly small for a US student
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Definitely avoid US schools if you dont have help from your parents. Save up money and move to a country with not outrageous tuition.

Definitely avoid US schools if you dont have help from your parents. Save up money and move to a country with not outrageous tuition.
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If you dont have something youre so passionate about doing that you dont care if you make shit money or struggle for years, finish the degree. Just having a bachelors degree in general opens the door to thousands of jobs otherwise inaccessible to you.

I went the drop out route with 2 semesters to go about 3 years ago and holy fuck do i wish i stayed. Starting back up in the fall to finish. Think very carefully about this before you decide. Its 10x harder to go back once youre out in the real world working 40+ hours a week.

If you dont have something youre so passionate about doing that you dont care if you make shit money or struggle for years, finish the degree. Just having a bachelors degree in general opens the door to thousands of jobs otherwise inaccessible to you.

I went the drop out route with 2 semesters to go about 3 years ago and holy fuck do i wish i stayed. Starting back up in the fall to finish. Think very carefully about this before you decide. Its 10x harder to go back once youre out in the real world working 40+ hours a week.
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poopsharkwait where does this "get pressured to go to med school to come from" and why wouldn't you be equally pressured to "go back to school" if you were drop out

i've always been a firm believer that there should be alternatives to going to college for many people (bc of seeing people cheat/struggle in school) but if you're doing fine + almost done + "pressure to continue to med school" is the primary obstacle for you (???) then i'm sort of struggling to see how you're deciding this

it's sad but 5k in loans, all said and done, is fairly small for a US student

Mostly my parents + irl friends

i lucked out and didnt pay for the first 2 years so i avoided big loans. I just dont think ill really enjoy any sort of work so id rather do something easy and low stress like work in a grocery store or w/e

[quote=poopshark]wait where does this "get pressured to go to med school to come from" and why wouldn't you be equally pressured to "go back to school" if you were drop out

i've always been a firm believer that there should be alternatives to going to college for many people (bc of seeing people cheat/struggle in school) but if you're doing fine + almost done + "pressure to continue to med school" is the primary obstacle for you (???) then i'm sort of struggling to see how you're deciding this

it's sad but 5k in loans, all said and done, is fairly small for a US student[/quote]
Mostly my parents + irl friends

i lucked out and didnt pay for the first 2 years so i avoided big loans. I just dont think ill really enjoy any sort of work so id rather do something easy and low stress like work in a grocery store or w/e
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HellbentDefinitely avoid US schools if you dont have help from your parents. Save up money and move to a country with not outrageous tuition.

I'm not sure why you're trying to give advice when you don't even live in the US, not knowing much about how the competition and pricing work. It all depends on where you want to work and what your major is. Finding a job in the US without a US degree is sometimes very complicated, especially if you have a technical degree. Working out of country with a student visa can be illegal, and saving up enough money by yourself to pay for college + other bills is quite difficult without being able to work during your stay.

That being said, 2+2 with a good scholarship can be cheap in US.

Edit: also, I'm impressed with your shittposting elliot. you actually got people to give you real advice lol

[quote=Hellbent]Definitely avoid US schools if you dont have help from your parents. Save up money and move to a country with not outrageous tuition.[/quote]

I'm not sure why you're trying to give advice when you don't even live in the US, not knowing much about how the competition and pricing work. It all depends on where you want to work and what your major is. Finding a job in the US without a US degree is sometimes very complicated, especially if you have a technical degree. Working out of country with a student visa can be illegal, and saving up enough money by yourself to pay for college + other bills is quite difficult without being able to work during your stay.

That being said, 2+2 with a good scholarship can be cheap in US.

Edit: also, I'm impressed with your shittposting elliot. you actually got people to give you real advice lol
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In my experience food service is a lot more fun than retail

Work in a restaurant or dining hall or something, its pretty fun and I know a decent number of places near me that pay like 12 an hour.
Hours are annoying sometimes but if you are just living at home and have insurance and everything its some easy cash

Honestly my best job I had before college was bartender, you can make some crazy money if you work at good places. However, it can be tough to find jobs if you have no past experience. Also, learn how to weld, I made good money with that too. If none of that appeals to you, work in construction.

In my experience food service is a lot more fun than retail

Work in a restaurant or dining hall or something, its pretty fun and I know a decent number of places near me that pay like 12 an hour.
Hours are annoying sometimes but if you are just living at home and have insurance and everything its some easy cash

Honestly my best job I had before college was bartender, you can make some crazy money if you work at good places. However, it can be tough to find jobs if you have no past experience. Also, learn how to weld, I made good money with that too. If none of that appeals to you, work in construction.
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You can work with a student visa afaik. I only know two people whove traveled out of the country for school but they both had jobs. Is it a per country thing?

You can work with a student visa afaik. I only know two people whove traveled out of the country for school but they both had jobs. Is it a per country thing?
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hellbent is right corsa, you guys pay ridiculous amounts for an equal or lesser education than you could get at a school up here in canada. canadian colleges and universities are flooded with thousands of american students escaping the embarrassing reality of your countries post secondary education system.

hellbent is right corsa, you guys pay ridiculous amounts for an equal or lesser education than you could get at a school up here in canada. canadian colleges and universities are flooded with thousands of american students escaping the embarrassing reality of your countries post secondary education system.
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When you said "being a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore" I had figure you were dropping out of medical school or were going to take an extended break.

My previous job was in one of the top medical schools in the country and I would help Medical Students plan and "match" for their future residency positions during the 4 years they had with us. When graduates are trying to "match" they are basically in competition with other graduates from all over the country for open positions. Taking extended breaks from medical school, once you start, "can" reflect negatively during this process so it is best to avoid if at all possible. Even situations like pregnancy were discussed with my female students because of possible time away from classes.

Since you have not started medical school yet, taking a break from a BS or even an MS degree is not going to have any long term impact in my opinion.

Following up on what Marmaduke said here:

marmadukeGRYLLSI went the drop out route with 2 semesters to go about 3 years ago and holy fuck do i wish i stayed. Starting back up in the fall to finish. Think very carefully about this before you decide. Its 10x harder to go back once youre out in the real world working 40+ hours a week.

I am not advocating you to drop out of school in any way but you do have viable options. I agree with Marmaduke but you personally have advantages over other types of students because you live at home and don't have the huge stress of money to pay rent/mortgage. If you had that money issue, then you would need your job more than you need school. In your current situation, getting a job and then quitting that job to restarting school can be an overnight process when the time is right.

When you said "being a doctor doesnt seem fun anymore" I had figure you were dropping out of medical school or were going to take an extended break.

My previous job was in one of the top medical schools in the country and I would help Medical Students plan and "match" for their future residency positions during the 4 years they had with us. When graduates are trying to "match" they are basically in competition with other graduates from all over the country for open positions. Taking extended breaks from medical school, once you start, "can" reflect negatively during this process so it is best to avoid if at all possible. Even situations like pregnancy were discussed with my female students because of possible time away from classes.

Since you have not started medical school yet, taking a break from a BS or even an MS degree is not going to have any long term impact in my opinion.

Following up on what Marmaduke said here:

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]I went the drop out route with 2 semesters to go about 3 years ago and holy fuck do i wish i stayed. Starting back up in the fall to finish. Think very carefully about this before you decide. Its 10x harder to go back once youre out in the real world working 40+ hours a week.[/quote]

I am not advocating you to drop out of school in any way but you do have viable options. I agree with Marmaduke but you personally have advantages over other types of students because you live at home and don't have the huge stress of money to pay rent/mortgage. If you had that money issue, then you would need your job more than you need school. In your current situation, getting a job and then quitting that job to restarting school can be an overnight process when the time is right.
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do not drop out!

do not drop out!
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I dont think im going to do a residency. I really wanna do an MSTP program and go into pure research but idk if i have the resumé for it :(

I dont think im going to do a residency. I really wanna do an MSTP program and go into pure research but idk if i have the resumé for it :(
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eeeYou can work with a student visa afaik. I only know two people whove traveled out of the country for school but they both had jobs. Is it a per country thing?

Yes. Probably fine in Canada.

-protohellbent is right corsa, you guys pay ridiculous amounts for an equal or lesser education than you could get at a school up here in canada. canadian colleges and universities are flooded with thousands of american students escaping the embarrassing reality of your countries post secondary education system.

Yeah but if you read my post you'd realize I said it depends on multiple factors. If an engineer from LITERALLY any college in Canada tried to apply for a job in the US, he'd get denied to people who went to average schools in the US. Its obviously a great idea if you want to stay in Canada, but sometimes people want to live near their family.

I could go to school for basically free in the US by going to cc + a cheap uni such as NIU and get a full ride and still have a great engineering degree. You just have to be smart about your plans.

[quote=eee]You can work with a student visa afaik. I only know two people whove traveled out of the country for school but they both had jobs. Is it a per country thing?[/quote]
Yes. Probably fine in Canada.

[quote=-proto]hellbent is right corsa, you guys pay ridiculous amounts for an equal or lesser education than you could get at a school up here in canada. canadian colleges and universities are flooded with thousands of american students escaping the embarrassing reality of your countries post secondary education system.[/quote]

Yeah but if you read my post you'd realize I said it depends on multiple factors. If an engineer from LITERALLY any college in Canada tried to apply for a job in the US, he'd get denied to people who went to average schools in the US. Its obviously a great idea if you want to stay in Canada, but sometimes people want to live near their family.

I could go to school for basically free in the US by going to cc + a cheap uni such as NIU and get a full ride and still have a great engineering degree. You just have to be smart about your plans.
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working in a fucking grocery store is stressful you don't make any fucking money and if you get into any emergency, you're fucked and cant afford anything

source: work in a grocery store

also proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you

working in a fucking grocery store is stressful you don't make any fucking money and if you get into any emergency, you're fucked and cant afford anything

source: work in a grocery store

also proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you
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Turinalso proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you

not even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.

your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.

[quote=Turin]
also proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you[/quote]
not even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.

your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.
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-protoTurinalso proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches younot even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.

The actual education system in the US is like 20th or something, yeah. Everyone knows the system is awful in US, but the actual universities are the highest ranked in the world is what he means. The majority of the top schools in the world are in US.

[quote=-proto][quote=Turin]
also proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you[/quote]
not even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.[/quote]

The actual education system in the US is like 20th or something, yeah. Everyone knows the system is awful in US, but the actual universities are the highest ranked in the world is what he means. The majority of the top schools in the world are in US.
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Was going to say become a longshoremen but you probably don't have 10+ years to wait to get the job. But other then that it's a fun job.

Was going to say become a longshoremen but you probably don't have 10+ years to wait to get the job. But other then that it's a fun job.
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Get your degree, don't go to med school (since you don't want to).

Often there are options for work which you haven't considered for your degree. Talk to your advisors, professors, and classmates to see what options you may have.

Getting a decent job is MUCH easier with a college degree.

Get your degree, don't go to med school (since you don't want to).

Often there are options for work which you haven't considered for your degree. Talk to your advisors, professors, and classmates to see what options you may have.

Getting a decent job is MUCH easier with a college degree.
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