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I've been had - Need help/ideas
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So over the course of the past few months I had been paying my roommates way while he was getting back on his feet. I then found a new job, and had to leave my lease early. So I laid out some options for him on how he wanted to proceed as he was staying where he was. We were deciding over finding a roommate, or having him transfer to a one bed. Last minute he decides to break the lease and help me pay. Obviously, he didn't have the money at the time, so I posted it with his word that he would pay part (total being $2,880, asking him to pay part, see pic below) as well. The payment was processed, then a couple days later I wrote up a contract for what he owed me. When I approached him to sign, he told me he changed his mind about paying for the break fee. I said and DID take him to court. Even with the messages of him admitting to pay (http://i.imgur.com/XxyTEqF.png), in court it didn't hold up because, from how I understand it, there was no reason for him to agree to it (nothing in it for him; something called consideration that's needed for a contract to be valid apparently). He actually lied in court about it, saying he didn't understand, even though he could've told the truth and apparently still been in the "right". So, legally I suppose, he's allowed to get cold feet and not follow up on his word. Even though the only reason I agreed to it was because he would pay part, he doesn't have to be held honest. BTW fun fact: he brought his gf, brother and dad to court to scoff at me during the trail, talking and laughing. His dad literally laughing to my girlfriend's face during trial. A grown ass man, 3x my age who cant act like it who has unsuccessfully raised two characterless children. So now I'm in the hole for a break fee of $2,880. Finding him a roommate would've saved me all of that and the headache/stress/embarrassment of court, but because I did what he said he wanted to do, I get screwed over in the end. No good deed goes unpunished. From the outside, I look like a controlling asshole who gave him no option and tried to scam money out of him, but in reality, I worked with him all the way until the end, picking up his slack while he gets to leave me "high and dry" like he loves to say I did him.

So here's the reason I came here. I'm in a pickle because if I appeal, I might have the same verdict and that would cost me over $300 just to process and serve the appeal. I'm not going to beg, I dont believe in begging. So I'm trying to think of ideas to be made whole from this deadbeat. Had the thought of maybe doing some tf2 fundraiser or tournament thing. Selling custom designed socks (very seriously considering this one). If nothing else, I may just forgive it as an expensive lesson learned, but this is so wrong and I have to try to make it right. Legal advice welcome.

TL;DR Roommate pulled a fast one on me in the tune of $2,880. I need ideas to get that money back, since legally, I'm the only one who can be held responsible. So how do you think I should raise money?

So over the course of the past few months I had been paying my roommates way while he was getting back on his feet. I then found a new job, and had to leave my lease early. So I laid out some options for him on how he wanted to proceed as he was staying where he was. We were deciding over finding a roommate, or having him transfer to a one bed. Last minute he decides to break the lease and help me pay. Obviously, he didn't have the money at the time, so I posted it with his word that he would pay part (total being $2,880, asking him to pay part, see pic below) as well. The payment was processed, then a couple days later I wrote up a contract for what he owed me. When I approached him to sign, he told me he changed his mind about paying for the break fee. I said and DID take him to court. Even with the messages of him admitting to pay (http://i.imgur.com/XxyTEqF.png), in court it didn't hold up because, from how I understand it, there was no reason for him to agree to it (nothing in it for him; something called consideration that's needed for a contract to be valid apparently). He actually lied in court about it, saying he didn't understand, even though he could've told the truth and apparently still been in the "right". So, legally I suppose, he's allowed to get cold feet and not follow up on his word. Even though the only reason I agreed to it was because he would pay part, he doesn't have to be held honest. BTW fun fact: he brought his gf, brother and dad to court to scoff at me during the trail, talking and laughing. His dad literally laughing to my girlfriend's face during trial. A grown ass man, 3x my age who cant act like it who has unsuccessfully raised two characterless children. So now I'm in the hole for a break fee of $2,880. Finding him a roommate would've saved me all of that and the headache/stress/embarrassment of court, but because I did what he said he wanted to do, I get screwed over in the end. No good deed goes unpunished. From the outside, I look like a controlling asshole who gave him no option and tried to scam money out of him, but in reality, I worked with him all the way until the end, picking up his slack while he gets to leave me "high and dry" like he loves to say I did him.

So here's the reason I came here. I'm in a pickle because if I appeal, I might have the same verdict and that would cost me over $300 just to process and serve the appeal. I'm not going to beg, I dont believe in begging. So I'm trying to think of ideas to be made whole from this deadbeat. Had the thought of maybe doing some tf2 fundraiser or tournament thing. Selling custom designed socks (very seriously considering this one). If nothing else, I may just forgive it as an expensive lesson learned, but this is so wrong and I have to try to make it right. Legal advice welcome.

TL;DR Roommate pulled a fast one on me in the tune of $2,880. I need ideas to get that money back, since legally, I'm the only one who can be held responsible. So how do you think I should raise money?
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#2
19 Frags +

eat it and don't loan people money

eat it and don't loan people money
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#3
6 Frags +

Ya done fucked up. If you lost in court, then there's nothing you can do.

Never trust other people when it comes to your money.

Ya done fucked up. If you lost in court, then there's nothing you can do.

Never trust other people when it comes to your money.
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#4
38 Frags +

i see a source of income

https://i.gyazo.com/4946c0a52250fd0ef6c5d64363897eb3.png

i see a source of income

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/4946c0a52250fd0ef6c5d64363897eb3.png[/img]
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#5
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Juicyi see a source of income

https://i.gyazo.com/4946c0a52250fd0ef6c5d64363897eb3.png

Actually am debating that as well.

[quote=Juicy]i see a source of income

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/4946c0a52250fd0ef6c5d64363897eb3.png[/img][/quote]
Actually am debating that as well.
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#6
15 Frags +

The surest way to ruin a friendship is giving them money and expecting repayment. If you give somebody money never expect to get it back - you may be surprised - but usually you're not getting anything back. Especially in this case, you're basically hosed. There may be some vague thing in your state with housing law, but I know here you'd be high and dry too.

The only thing I could think to do would be to ask your land-lord to let you out of *his* portion of the break-fee unless you were subletting to him in which case you're hosed extra. You've prolly already gone down that route, but you could hope that they're a super nice person (unlikely).

The surest way to ruin a friendship is giving them money and expecting repayment. If you give somebody money never expect to get it back - you may be surprised - but usually you're not getting anything back. Especially in this case, you're basically hosed. There may be some vague thing in your state with housing law, but I know here you'd be high and dry too.

The only thing I could think to do would be to ask your land-lord to let you out of *his* portion of the break-fee unless you were subletting to him in which case you're hosed extra. You've prolly already gone down that route, but you could hope that they're a super nice person (unlikely).
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#7
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I guess I should clarify... I know legally there's nothing I can do and nothing I will be able to negotiate. Looking for other ideas like selling cupcakes or lemonade or my body.

I guess I should clarify... I know legally there's nothing I can do and nothing I will be able to negotiate. Looking for other ideas like selling cupcakes or lemonade or my body.
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#8
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Dane or my body.

this seems like best option

[quote=Dane] or my body.[/quote]
this seems like best option
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#9
32 Frags +

well depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.

well depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.
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#10
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Marxistwell depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.

this man is dedicated to tf2

and drinking

[quote=Marxist]well depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.[/quote]
this man is dedicated to tf2

and drinking
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#11
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i think sperm donors can make a lot

i think sperm donors can make a lot
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#12
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Marxistwell depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.

b4nny gets $600/mo from plasma IIRC. But I believe he is the universal blood type so they pay like 3x higher.

[quote=Marxist]well depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.[/quote]

b4nny gets $600/mo from plasma IIRC. But I believe he is the universal blood type so they pay like 3x higher.
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#13
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dollarlayerMarxistwell depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.
b4nny gets $600/mo from plasma IIRC. But I believe he is the universal blood type so they pay like 3x higher.

What a bomb idea. I like the high road.

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=Marxist]well depending on your state you may be able to sell your blood plasma - I did that to pay for a tf2 server and mumble + booze for a while when money was especially tight. The place I went on gave me 50$ a month for my blood that i was only *partially* using.[/quote]

b4nny gets $600/mo from plasma IIRC. But I believe he is the universal blood type so they pay like 3x higher.[/quote]
What a bomb idea. I like the high road.
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#14
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I myself have full gone through troubles and such, I honestly hope something works out for you man. That kinda stuff is lame.

I myself have full gone through troubles and such, I honestly hope something works out for you man. That kinda stuff is lame.
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#15
11 Frags +

Leave a burning bag of poo on his porch.

Leave a burning bag of poo on his porch.
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#16
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Well, you could rob some place, but that might make problems worse.
in all seriousness, start by selling random shit you have taht you can live without

Well, you could rob some place, but that might make problems worse.
in all seriousness, start by selling random shit you have taht you can live without
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#17
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razeWell, you could rob some place, but that might make problems worse.
in all seriousness, start by selling random shit you have taht you can live without

Or maybe make actual money

[quote=raze]Well, you could rob some place, but that might make problems worse.
in all seriousness, start by selling random shit you have taht you can live without[/quote]


Or maybe make actual money
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#18
12 Frags +

stab his dad

stab his dad
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#19
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Your Circling Hearts Glengarry Bonnet alone will net you a quick 103 usd (41.5 keys), in fact I know a guy who is probably interested in buying it right now

Your Circling Hearts Glengarry Bonnet alone will net you a quick 103 usd (41.5 keys), in fact I know a guy who is probably interested in buying it right now
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#20
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Nothing wrong with loaning money. You were supporting a deadbeat though. That is on you. Go enjoy your new job and be happy. Id recommend renting a room from someone or staying with your folks until you find a proper roommate.

Nothing wrong with loaning money. You were supporting a deadbeat though. That is on you. Go enjoy your new job and be happy. Id recommend renting a room from someone or staying with your folks until you find a proper roommate.
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#21
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Sounds like the joke is still on him because you are a genuinely good guy and he lost out on having you as a friend. I'm sure the money stings right now, but 5 years down the road you still won because you don't have to deal with that chicken fucking piece of shit anymore.

Sounds like the joke is still on him because you are a genuinely good guy and he lost out on having you as a friend. I'm sure the money stings right now, but 5 years down the road you still won because you don't have to deal with that chicken fucking piece of shit anymore.
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#22
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What I would do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZomwVcGt0LE

What I would do...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZomwVcGt0LE[/youtube]
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#23
1 Frags +

don't lend any sum to people you haven't known for years and who wouldn't loan towards you.

don't lend any sum to people you haven't known for years and who wouldn't loan towards you.
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#24
7 Frags +

If possible (and this might be embarrassing for you, but it's probably the best route) I think you should try to borrow the money from your parents, as they are likely to quite flexible in many aspects when it comes to paying them back, which will make it easier for you to get on with life.

If possible (and this might be embarrassing for you, but it's probably the best route) I think you should try to borrow the money from your parents, as they are likely to quite flexible in many aspects when it comes to paying them back, which will make it easier for you to get on with life.
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#25
huds.tf
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If you're still struggling to get some cash by the end of the month and actually consider selling those unusuals, I'll buy the gonzilla from you.

If you're still struggling to get some cash by the end of the month and actually consider selling those unusuals, I'll buy the gonzilla from you.
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#26
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#27
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Selling cannabis is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get seeds online and it grows like a weed (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions

Selling cannabis is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get seeds online and it grows like a weed (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions
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#28
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PendaSelling cannabis is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get seeds online and it grows like a weed (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions

Guy already made a bad choice, dont think he should do another ;0

[quote=Penda]Selling cannabis is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get seeds online and it grows like a weed (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions[/quote]

Guy already made a bad choice, dont think he should do another ;0
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#29
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Selling organs is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get drifters off the street and nobody will know where they went (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions

Selling organs is a good market, especially in places where it's illegal. It's easy to get drifters off the street and nobody will know where they went (hence the name)
hmu if you have any questions
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#30
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...when I said "sell my body," I meant like prostitution...

Um.. so anyway, I don't think I'm ready to give up kidneys or unusuals (yet). Do you think a raffle would get enough buzz? I was thinking maybe like if I got that whole amount, I might raffle off a couple visa gift cards for like $500 and less. Being somewhat of a nobody, it'd be kind of embarrassing to have that fall on my face, so I'm hesitant.

...when I said "sell my body," I meant like prostitution...

Um.. so anyway, I don't think I'm ready to give up kidneys or unusuals (yet). Do you think a raffle would get enough buzz? I was thinking maybe like if I got that whole amount, I might raffle off a couple visa gift cards for like $500 and less. Being somewhat of a nobody, it'd be kind of embarrassing to have that fall on my face, so I'm hesitant.
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