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Anyone tried this new pill? I never took those kind of pills before, but with my current job being very demanding, im curious. I know there is other ways to do like doing exercise and sleeping more, but times will be rough in the upcoming months.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/brain-enhancing-smart-drugs-are-going-commercial?utm_source=mbfbvn

Edit : 43$ / month for a bottle of pills... its the same expense as gym, woah not happening.

Anyone tried this new pill? I never took those kind of pills before, but with my current job being very demanding, im curious. I know there is other ways to do like doing exercise and sleeping more, but times will be rough in the upcoming months.


[url=http://motherboard.vice.com/read/brain-enhancing-smart-drugs-are-going-commercial?utm_source=mbfbvn]http://motherboard.vice.com/read/brain-enhancing-smart-drugs-are-going-commercial?utm_source=mbfbvn[/url]

Edit : 43$ / month for a bottle of pills... its the same expense as gym, woah not happening.
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nah it's gonna make your testicles smaller

nah it's gonna make your testicles smaller
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Taking drugs to accommodate a stressful work schedule is never the right idea. You need to force yourself to get an appropriate amount of sleep and make sure to stay hydrated and well-nourished. If you can't make that work, then you might need to decide if the amount of stress you'll be taking on is worth it.

Taking drugs to accommodate a stressful work schedule is never the right idea. You need to force yourself to get an appropriate amount of sleep and make sure to stay hydrated and well-nourished. If you can't make that work, then you might need to decide if the amount of stress you'll be taking on is worth it.
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I know it's hard being Quebecois but there's no wonderdrug available that's going to resolve the amount of stupid it takes to take anything written on Vice seriously in any way, shape, or form.

I know it's hard being Quebecois but there's no wonderdrug available that's going to resolve the amount of stupid it takes to take anything written on Vice seriously in any way, shape, or form.
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Also seems to be a bit bullshit...not read too much into it but I can't imagine it being as effective as the actual ADHD medications at that sort of thing without being licensed as such.

Also seems to be a bit bullshit...not read too much into it but I can't imagine it being as effective as the actual ADHD medications at that sort of thing without being licensed as such.
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I've tried similar pills and I never notice anything different (maybe the first time I'll feel something, but after that not really). So I think these are usually a waste of money.

I've tried similar pills and I never notice anything different (maybe the first time I'll feel something, but after that not really). So I think these are usually a waste of money.
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x3 NO what is this

this is a step backwards don't do this to me x3

x3 NO what is this

this is a step backwards don't do this to me x3
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If you replace add and all in alleradd you get adderall
But seriously op u really shouldn't take them

If you replace add and all in alleradd you get adderall
But seriously op u really shouldn't take them
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good marketing though

good marketing though
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gr8stalinI know it's hard being Quebecois but there's no wonderdrug available that's going to resolve the amount of stupid it takes to take anything written on Vice seriously in any way, shape, or form.

stahp

[quote=gr8stalin]I know it's hard being Quebecois but there's no wonderdrug available that's going to resolve the amount of stupid it takes to take anything written on Vice seriously in any way, shape, or form.[/quote]

stahp
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Speaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.

Speaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.
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You would die probably.

You would die probably.
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BonafideSpeaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.

If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)

[quote=Bonafide]Speaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.[/quote]

If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)
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skeejBonafideSpeaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.
If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)

Because this is supporting charlatans if you refer to the Alleradd :p
Otherwise there rarely are no side effects, but if it works there's no other reason not to take it if you need it.

[quote=skeej][quote=Bonafide]Speaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.[/quote]

If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)[/quote]
Because this is supporting charlatans if you refer to the Alleradd :p
Otherwise there rarely are no side effects, but if it works there's no other reason not to take it if you need it.
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there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion

there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion
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skeejBonafideSpeaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.
If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)

Well, for the sake of discussion..... How do you know this mythical drug has no side effects?

[quote=skeej][quote=Bonafide]Speaking from experience, do not take drugs unless you are in serious health/mental problems and there is no other way. Life can be hard sometimes but pills are absolutely not the answer.[/quote]

If there's no negative side effects, why not?

(disregarding the fact that medication without side effects barely exists, for the sake of discussion)[/quote]
Well, for the sake of discussion..... How do you know this mythical drug has no side effects?
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oh god, this kind of treads again

oh god, this kind of treads again
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owlthere's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion

there can be drugs that have no side effects for certain people, or at least any side effects which are non-negligible within their lifetime, it's not a total fallacy

[quote=owl]there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion[/quote]

there can be drugs that have no side effects for certain people, or at least any side effects which are non-negligible within their lifetime, it's not a total fallacy
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i hear youre supposed to take the whole bottle at once, give it a try

i hear youre supposed to take the whole bottle at once, give it a try
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im gonna stick with my adderall but thanks tho

im gonna stick with my adderall but thanks tho
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owlthere's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion

Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.

[quote=owl]there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion[/quote]

Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.
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skeejowlthere's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion
Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.

You're conflating "no side effects" with "no observable side effects"

[quote=skeej][quote=owl]there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion[/quote]

Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.[/quote]
You're conflating "no side effects" with "no observable side effects"
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Anything in the modern world that is saying it's gonna make you smarter/better that isn't school/hardwork is a blatant marketing strategy for a product that may have adverse side-effects later on. Considering we can't even create things that modify metabolism without blowing our o-rings, i wouldn't trust that. Remember, meth was initially a performance enhancing drug.

Anything in the modern world that is saying it's gonna make you smarter/better that isn't school/hardwork is a blatant marketing strategy for a product that may have adverse side-effects later on. Considering we can't even create things that modify metabolism without blowing our o-rings, i wouldn't trust that. Remember, meth was initially a performance enhancing drug.
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twenty2020skeejowlthere's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion
Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.
You're conflating "no side effects" with "no observable side effects"

I'd rather have a non-observable headache than an observable one. Thank you very much.

edit: To clarify, how can "no side effects" and "non-observable side effects" NOT be conflated? Scientifically, they're the same thing, since what you cannot observe can also not be falsified.

[quote=twenty2020][quote=skeej][quote=owl]there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion[/quote]

Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.[/quote]
You're conflating "no side effects" with "no observable side effects"[/quote]

I'd rather have a non-observable headache than an observable one. Thank you very much.

edit: To clarify, how can "no side effects" and "non-observable side effects" NOT be conflated? Scientifically, they're the same thing, since what you cannot observe can also not be falsified.
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what everyone is trying to say skeej is that you can take something and not suffer from any side effects but that doesn't mean anything for anyone else that might take it

there's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will be

what everyone is trying to say skeej is that you can take something and not suffer from any side effects but that doesn't mean anything for anyone else that might take it

there's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will be
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skeejowlthere's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion
Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.

If your ideology is to use pills instead of working on the real problem, just lol.
Besides, just because there are no known side effects NOW doesn't mean it won't affect you in a negative way, you just wouldn't know it.

For example ADHD, which is a fictive disorder that was purely created for making insane amounts of money in the pharmaceutical industry (aka selling "medicine"). Now the "founding father" of this disorder even claimed so himself that ADHD is a made-up disorder before he died, and many studies support his claim, and besides supporting his claim even tell you to absolutely not take this drug since it can cause many serious health problems, yet millions of childeren have been given this drug (even now this news has been out for nearly two years?).

I mean, just google it if you really want to know more about it honestly, just don't blindly trust the pharmaceutical industry since they're money hungry af and don't care about these health implications at all. Especially don't use drugs when it's something as minor as stress which you can overcome by simply relaxing, having a good sleep schedule, staying socially active, working out and doing things you like.

[quote=skeej][quote=owl]there's no such thing and will never be such a thing as a medicine with literally no side effects so I dont see the point in having that discussion[/quote]

Bullshit. There's already loads of medicine out that that works fine for people without side effects (for myself for instance, long term usage of PPI's doesn't affect me in any negative way). And thats just old fashioned "dumb" medicine. Think about when smart medication (biochemical medicine engineered to the individuals genome, or completely different tech like nanowizardry) will be mainstream.

Also, I'm bad at English. I should've said "If there WOULD be no negative side effects", to avoid misinterpretations. I don't know anything about alleradd, and it sounds like snake oil tbh, but I was just responding to Bona's general statement.[/quote]
If your ideology is to use pills instead of working on the real problem, just lol.
Besides, just because there are no known side effects NOW doesn't mean it won't affect you in a negative way, you just wouldn't know it.

For example ADHD, which is a fictive disorder that was purely created for making insane amounts of money in the pharmaceutical industry (aka selling "medicine"). Now the "founding father" of this disorder even claimed so himself that ADHD is a made-up disorder before he died, and many studies support his claim, and besides supporting his claim even tell you to absolutely not take this drug since it can cause many serious health problems, yet millions of childeren have been given this drug (even now this news has been out for nearly two years?).

I mean, just google it if you really want to know more about it honestly, just don't blindly trust the pharmaceutical industry since they're money hungry af and don't care about these health implications at all. Especially don't use drugs when it's something as minor as stress which you can overcome by simply relaxing, having a good sleep schedule, staying socially active, working out and doing things you like.
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fightwhat everyone is trying to say skeej is that you can take something and not suffer from any side effects but that doesn't mean anything for anyone else that might take it

Ok. Yes? I guess?

I'm not sure why you are aiming this directly at me, cause I would never disagree with such point. When I mentioned my PPI usage for instance, I specifically only referred to my own experience with it.

there's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will be

Really? How can you be that cynical about the future of the scientific/medical world? That "never" part just sounds like "640K ought to be enough for anybody"-type talk.

[quote=fight]what everyone is trying to say skeej is that you can take something and not suffer from any side effects but that doesn't mean anything for anyone else that might take it[/quote]

Ok. Yes? I guess?

I'm not sure why you are aiming this directly at me, cause I would never disagree with such point. When I mentioned my PPI usage for instance, I specifically only referred to my own experience with it.

[quote]there's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will be[/quote]

Really? How can you be that cynical about the future of the scientific/medical world? That "never" part just sounds like "640K ought to be enough for anybody"-type talk.
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skeejfightthere's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will beReally? How can you be that cynical about the future of the scientific/medical world? That "never" part just sounds like "640K ought to be enough for anybody"-type talk.

Well, Medically that's a sound stance.
Given the sheer amount of variance in people and the multitude of different disorders that exist, that's an incredibly true statement. Allergies exist and immunodeficiency exists so it's 100% accurate.

[quote=skeej][quote=fight]
there's no drug that would have no negative side effects in 100% of people and likely never will be[/quote]
Really? How can you be that cynical about the future of the scientific/medical world? That "never" part just sounds like "640K ought to be enough for anybody"-type talk.[/quote]
Well, Medically that's a sound stance.
Given the sheer amount of variance in people and the multitude of different disorders that exist, that's an incredibly true statement. Allergies exist and immunodeficiency exists so it's 100% accurate.
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drugs just don't work that way, you can't formulate something that is going to be safe for everyone because you'd have to take things into account like allergies or interactions with other drugs or foods or even just the differences between any two people and that would never pan out

it's not cynical at all, it's pretty much a fact

edit: ninja'd

drugs just don't work that way, you can't formulate something that is going to be safe for everyone because you'd have to take things into account like allergies or interactions with other drugs or foods or even just the differences between any two people and that would never pan out

it's not cynical at all, it's pretty much a fact

edit: ninja'd
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yaugi hear youre supposed to take the whole bottle at once, give it a try
[quote=yaug]i hear youre supposed to take the whole bottle at once, give it a try[/quote]
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