Does this PC have the capabilities to give off 144hz? Is there a port capable of doing it?
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.
Can this laptop give 144hz?
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Does this PC have the capabilities to give off 144hz? Is there a port capable of doing it?
http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-envy---15t-touch-realsense-laptop-k5h58av-1
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.
http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-envy---15t-touch-realsense-laptop-k5h58av-1
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.
I only see an HDMI port on the side and no displayport. I'm gonna call this a no, although it's not like you would be able to get a usable 144Hz out of integrated graphics in the first place.
I only see an HDMI port on the side and no displayport. I'm gonna call this a no, although it's not like you would be able to get a usable 144Hz out of integrated graphics in the first place.
ulmyxx^its customized.
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming
[quote=ulmyxx]^its customized.[/quote]
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming
Please don't use laptops for gaming, and specially not those meant for simple entertainment. With the same amount of money you could most likely build a decent desktop.
Please don't use laptops for gaming, and specially not those meant for simple entertainment. With the same amount of money you could most likely build a decent desktop.
you could maybe get 60fps on like minesweeper or microsoft word
you could maybe get 60fps on like minesweeper or microsoft word
ulmyxxDoes this PC have the capabilities to give off 144hz? Is there a port capable of doing it?
http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-envy---15t-touch-realsense-laptop-k5h58av-1
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.
ulmyxx^its customized.
Don't do it, you would literally be killing that laptop from day 1 when you start playing any games on it for more than 20-30 minutes. You will notice significant stutters and frame drops occassionally from the CPU underclocking itself cause it gets WAY to hot.
Source: I used a gaming laptop slightly over a year ago with an i7 and 570m in it. It was about as powerful as a laptop as you could get when my friend bought it 4 years ago. The stutters were awful...
[quote=ulmyxx]Does this PC have the capabilities to give off 144hz? Is there a port capable of doing it?
http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-envy---15t-touch-realsense-laptop-k5h58av-1
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.[/quote]
[quote=ulmyxx]^its customized.[/quote]
Don't do it, you would literally be killing that laptop from day 1 when you start playing any games on it for more than 20-30 minutes. You will notice significant stutters and frame drops occassionally from the CPU underclocking itself cause it gets WAY to hot.
Source: I used a gaming laptop slightly over a year ago with an i7 and 570m in it. It was about as powerful as a laptop as you could get when my friend bought it 4 years ago. The stutters were awful...
http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-envy---15t-touch-realsense-laptop-k5h58av-1
I tried to find a list of ports but I could not. Thank you.[/quote]
[quote=ulmyxx]^its customized.[/quote]
Don't do it, you would literally be killing that laptop from day 1 when you start playing any games on it for more than 20-30 minutes. You will notice significant stutters and frame drops occassionally from the CPU underclocking itself cause it gets WAY to hot.
Source: I used a gaming laptop slightly over a year ago with an i7 and 570m in it. It was about as powerful as a laptop as you could get when my friend bought it 4 years ago. The stutters were awful...
With an HMDI to dual DVI you might because to get 144hz to work. You might bottleneck on the splitter and get input lag however. This laptop is more than capable of getting 144fps with the proper CFG (comanglia). Due to the fact that its integrated gfx you'll get better FPS the lower you scale your resolution but with an i5/HD Graphics 5500 that should only be 1024/768.
With an HMDI to dual DVI you might because to get 144hz to work. You might bottleneck on the splitter and get input lag however. This laptop is more than capable of getting 144fps with the proper CFG (comanglia). Due to the fact that its integrated gfx you'll get better FPS the lower you scale your resolution but with an i5/HD Graphics 5500 that should only be 1024/768.
I've researched this a bit. I don't think Intel integrated graphics can get up to 120hz+ even if it had the capable DisplayPort. Nothing I've looked at says it can output at that level.
For example this site: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/quick-reference-guide-to-intel-processor-graphics lists the max resolution but mentions nothing about max refresh rate, so I have to assume it can only do 60hz at a high resolution. I've been able to run 75hz at 1024x768, but that's about it.
You can game on modern laptops, just don't expect to be the best of the best pro-gamer when people out there are playing at 120hz.
I've researched this a bit. I don't think Intel integrated graphics can get up to 120hz+ even if it had the capable DisplayPort. Nothing I've looked at says it can output at that level.
For example this site: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/quick-reference-guide-to-intel-processor-graphics lists the max resolution but mentions nothing about max refresh rate, so I have to assume it can only do 60hz at a high resolution. I've been able to run 75hz at 1024x768, but that's about it.
You can game on modern laptops, just don't expect to be the best of the best pro-gamer when people out there are playing at 120hz.
For example this site: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/quick-reference-guide-to-intel-processor-graphics lists the max resolution but mentions nothing about max refresh rate, so I have to assume it can only do 60hz at a high resolution. I've been able to run 75hz at 1024x768, but that's about it.
You can game on modern laptops, just don't expect to be the best of the best pro-gamer when people out there are playing at 120hz.
ProcreativeWith an HMDI to dual DVI you might because to get 144hz to work. You might bottleneck on the splitter and get input lag however. This laptop is more than capable of getting 144fps with the proper CFG (comanglia). Due to the fact that its integrated gfx you'll get better FPS the lower you scale your resolution but with an i5/HD Graphics 5500 that should only be 1024/768.
Please don't encourage people to buy something that might make them sad after an update or two :-(
I am a laptop user and in short of money, all I can say it's not worth to invest in a laptop(because you can't upgrade or anything). He is better off with a decent desktop, one that suits his need and easily upgradable whenever needed.
[quote=Procreative]With an HMDI to dual DVI you might because to get 144hz to work. You might bottleneck on the splitter and get input lag however. This laptop is more than capable of getting 144fps with the proper CFG (comanglia). Due to the fact that its integrated gfx you'll get better FPS the lower you scale your resolution but with an i5/HD Graphics 5500 that should only be 1024/768.[/quote]
Please don't encourage people to buy something that might make them sad after an update or two :-(
I am a laptop user and in short of money, all I can say it's not worth to invest in a laptop(because you can't upgrade or anything). He is better off with a decent desktop, one that suits his need and easily upgradable whenever needed.
Please don't encourage people to buy something that might make them sad after an update or two :-(
I am a laptop user and in short of money, all I can say it's not worth to invest in a laptop(because you can't upgrade or anything). He is better off with a decent desktop, one that suits his need and easily upgradable whenever needed.
hurrykannPlease don't encourage people to buy something that might make them sad after an update or two :-(. I am a laptop user and in short of money, all I can say it's not worth to invest in a laptop(because you can't upgrade or anything). He is better off with a decent desktop, one that suits his need and easily upgradable whenever needed.
I'm not encouraging or discouraging him. I'm just stating the merits I see in the particular laptop he asked about. Its his mind to make and he may have ulterior motives such as need a laptop for school or wanting something generally portable. I for example got another laptop because its cheaper and I plan to give it away to family shortly.
[quote=hurrykann]Please don't encourage people to buy something that might make them sad after an update or two :-(. I am a laptop user and in short of money, all I can say it's not worth to invest in a laptop(because you can't upgrade or anything). He is better off with a decent desktop, one that suits his need and easily upgradable whenever needed.[/quote]
I'm not encouraging or discouraging him. I'm just stating the merits I see in the particular laptop he asked about. Its his mind to make and he may have ulterior motives such as need a laptop for school or wanting something generally portable. I for example got another laptop because its cheaper and I plan to give it away to family shortly.
I'm not encouraging or discouraging him. I'm just stating the merits I see in the particular laptop he asked about. Its his mind to make and he may have ulterior motives such as need a laptop for school or wanting something generally portable. I for example got another laptop because its cheaper and I plan to give it away to family shortly.
Dave_HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
[quote=Dave_]
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
yttriumDave_HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
If you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.
[quote=yttrium][quote=Dave_]
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
If you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
If you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.
yttriumDave_HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gamingActually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.
[quote=yttrium][quote=Dave_]
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.
ComangliaIf you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.
All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
Dave_yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.
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I was as surprised as you, my friend.
[quote=Comanglia]If you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.[/quote]
All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
[quote=Dave_]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
[spoiler][img]http://puu.sh/hVvUE/c08671ba83.png[/img][/spoiler]
I was as surprised as you, my friend.
All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
[quote=Dave_]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
[spoiler][img]http://puu.sh/hVvUE/c08671ba83.png[/img][/spoiler]
I was as surprised as you, my friend.
Dave_yttriumyes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.Dave_HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gamingActually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.
Yes it is. HDMI 1.4b can do 1080p 120Hz
They're currently on HDMI 2.0
[quote=Dave_][quote=yttrium][quote=Dave_]
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
Yes it is. HDMI 1.4b can do 1080p 120Hz
They're currently on HDMI 2.0
HDMI can output 120Hz assuming you have the correct version (and correct timings but you can't easily set those in intel's drivers RIP). Also why would you have a 144Hz monitor and an integrated gpu that makes no sense; I'd be more worried about getting a constant framerate first. Plus HP doesn't even let you choose a different GPU with that laptop so idk how "customizing" it helps anything related to gaming[/quote]
Actually, Intel's driver when put into Advanced mode has full control of timings and display over clocking. I was kinda surprised myself.[/quote]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
Yes it is. HDMI 1.4b can do 1080p 120Hz
They're currently on HDMI 2.0
I agree that laptops are not ideal for gaming. If you must buy a laptop however (e.g. need one for school), try to get one with at least a mid-range dedicated graphics card (GPU) not one with an integrated GPU. And I'd highly recommend using a decent notebook cooler when you plan to game, to prevent overheating and thermal throttling, and just to increase the lifespan of the computer.
I agree that laptops are not ideal for gaming. If you must buy a laptop however (e.g. need one for school), try to get one with at least a mid-range dedicated graphics card (GPU) not one with an integrated GPU. And I'd highly recommend using a decent notebook cooler when you plan to game, to prevent overheating and thermal throttling, and just to increase the lifespan of the computer.
yttriumComangliaIf you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
Dave_yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.Show ContentI was as surprised as you, my friend.
holy shit
They must've added that since the last time I checked. That's really nice to have then; so 120Hz via HDMI isn't such a pain to do with intel igps now :o
also I forgot to mention over older versions of HDMI/monitors that didn't support it (think of the older 120Hz monitors). It wouldn't matter what version of HDMI the laptop had if the monitor you're connecting to didn't support it. Hence the need for the custom timings.
as far as overclocking the LCD panels, this is true
but I mean the LCD that came in my gaming laptop came stock @ 60Hz and I've had it stable at 100Hz for a while now
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[quote=yttrium][quote=Comanglia]If you're hoping that you can force some other monitor to do 144Hz prepare to be disappointed. Very very few monitors can be overclocked past 76Hz.[/quote]
All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
[quote=Dave_]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
[spoiler][img]http://puu.sh/hVvUE/c08671ba83.png[/img][/spoiler]
I was as surprised as you, my friend.[/quote]
holy shit
They must've added that since the last time I checked. That's really nice to have then; so 120Hz via HDMI isn't such a pain to do with intel igps now :o
also I forgot to mention over older versions of HDMI/monitors that didn't support it (think of the older 120Hz monitors). It wouldn't matter what version of HDMI the laptop had if the monitor you're connecting to didn't support it. Hence the need for the custom timings.
as far as overclocking the LCD panels, this is true
but I mean the LCD that came in my gaming laptop came stock @ 60Hz and I've had it stable at 100Hz for a while now
[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/xeyaijV.png[/img][/spoiler]
All I'm saying is that the driver does have control, not that it'll help you. I altered my 75Hz panels down to 72Hz to help reduce an Aero bug from mismatched refresh rates, so that they're more compatible with my center 144Hz monitor.
[quote=Dave_]
yes but you don't have control over EVERYTHING; i believe you don't get access to the front and back porch settings which makes it impossible to push 120Hz over HDMI conveniently.[/quote]
[spoiler][img]http://puu.sh/hVvUE/c08671ba83.png[/img][/spoiler]
I was as surprised as you, my friend.[/quote]
holy shit
They must've added that since the last time I checked. That's really nice to have then; so 120Hz via HDMI isn't such a pain to do with intel igps now :o
also I forgot to mention over older versions of HDMI/monitors that didn't support it (think of the older 120Hz monitors). It wouldn't matter what version of HDMI the laptop had if the monitor you're connecting to didn't support it. Hence the need for the custom timings.
as far as overclocking the LCD panels, this is true
but I mean the LCD that came in my gaming laptop came stock @ 60Hz and I've had it stable at 100Hz for a while now
[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/xeyaijV.png[/img][/spoiler]
If you want a laptop purely for gaming, go with the new jy751. 144hz works through thunderbolt, and you'll be able to run it at a good fps with a cfq consistently
If you want a laptop purely for gaming, go with the new jy751. 144hz works through thunderbolt, and you'll be able to run it at a good fps with a cfq consistently
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