Another help request from yours truly. I couldn't find/be assed to find mana's thread and jack it for my own very similar question (would probably be a hardcore necropost at this point too) so here goes:
I've got one last semester here at Stony Brook and then I take my Bachelor's in not-STEM and start trying to find a way to pay off my loans right proper quick. Now the catch is that even though my costs are pretty low in comparison to other people both in and outside of my major, my mom is old and cost of living here in NY just keeps going up and up, and I don't have any local connect back in Queens that are strong enough to get something worth a shit to start carrying bill-paying weight. Sure things can change in the job market for my last semester if I get a hookup from the "career center" here but I've been going there for three semesters now and I ain't exactly holdin' my breath at this point, so my mom and I are thinking about moving somewhere with a lower cost of living within a year or two after I graduate. We're pretty keen on staying on the East Coast, although Central US is a possibility.
Following places we were kicking around:
Northern Florida
Pennsylvania (possibly Pittsburgh for CMU since they have a Master's program there that I'm thinking about)
Atlanta, Georgia
Wisconsin (mom mentioned Wisconsin as a possible place but she hates winter in NY and I was like "why do you think Wisconsin will be better?")
One of the Carolinas
Tennessee
What's good, what ain't, holla @ me.
Another help request from yours truly. I couldn't find/be assed to find mana's thread and jack it for my own very similar question (would probably be a hardcore necropost at this point too) so here goes:
I've got one last semester here at Stony Brook and then I take my Bachelor's in not-STEM and start trying to find a way to pay off my loans right proper quick. Now the catch is that even though my costs are pretty low in comparison to other people both in and outside of my major, my mom is old and cost of living here in NY just keeps going up and up, and I don't have any local connect back in Queens that are strong enough to get something worth a shit to start carrying bill-paying weight. Sure things can change in the job market for my last semester if I get a hookup from the "career center" here but I've been going there for three semesters now and I ain't exactly holdin' my breath at this point, so my mom and I are thinking about moving somewhere with a lower cost of living within a year or two after I graduate. We're pretty keen on staying on the East Coast, although Central US is a possibility.
Following places we were kicking around:
Northern Florida
Pennsylvania (possibly Pittsburgh for CMU since they have a Master's program there that I'm thinking about)
Atlanta, Georgia
Wisconsin (mom mentioned Wisconsin as a possible place but she hates winter in NY and I was like "why do you think Wisconsin will be better?")
One of the Carolinas
Tennessee
What's good, what ain't, holla @ me.
the first thing that comes to mind is the weather. clearly your mom likes warmer weather, what about you?
the first thing that comes to mind is the weather. clearly your mom likes warmer weather, what about you?
dont move to north carolina. ive lived here for almost 10 years now, and i live in the only decent part of it which is near the capital, and im tryna get the fuck out as soon as i graduate. south carolina is much more interesting but much more racist so if you are black i would stay away. on the other hand, if you are black i would move to atlanta.
ill give you some actual advice i guess. alot of people are moving to raleigh nc because the job market is booming here and they think people are getting jobs left and right because of the Research Triangle Park, but what they dont know is because its so damn overcrowded, the job competition is incredibly tough, so if that was on your list just cross it off
dont move to north carolina. ive lived here for almost 10 years now, and i live in the only decent part of it which is near the capital, and im tryna get the fuck out as soon as i graduate. south carolina is much more interesting but much more racist so if you are black i would stay away. on the other hand, if you are black i would move to atlanta.
ill give you some actual advice i guess. alot of people are moving to raleigh nc because the job market is booming here and they think people are getting jobs left and right because of the Research Triangle Park, but what they dont know is because its so damn overcrowded, the job competition is incredibly tough, so if that was on your list just cross it off
I recommended Atlanta to mana and I'll do it again. Housing is relatively cheap as long as you're willing to have a commute and jobs are decently plentiful if you have a degree. Do you mind saying what you're majoring in?
I grew up is Wisconsin and would move back in a minute if I could find a great job but my wife hates the winter and so it's probably gonna be just a dream. Milwaukee and Madison are be great places to live, IMHO.
NC is where my wife wants to live. It's unlikely I'll ever find work there given my field but what little time I've been there it's a beautiful place at least.
You don't say what's important to you besides jobs and maybe weather? If you mind winter at all I'd keep Wisco low. Atlanta is ok, no bitter cold, at least.
I recommended Atlanta to mana and I'll do it again. Housing is relatively cheap as long as you're willing to have a commute and jobs are decently plentiful if you have a degree. Do you mind saying what you're majoring in?
I grew up is Wisconsin and would move back in a minute if I could find a great job but my wife hates the winter and so it's probably gonna be just a dream. Milwaukee and Madison are be great places to live, IMHO.
NC is where my wife wants to live. It's unlikely I'll ever find work there given my field but what little time I've been there it's a beautiful place at least.
You don't say what's important to you besides jobs and maybe weather? If you mind winter at all I'd keep Wisco low. Atlanta is ok, no bitter cold, at least.
Michigan ! the big problem is the weather. during the summer its hot as hell and during the winter its cold as hell so i don't know how that will go with your grandma
Michigan ! the big problem is the weather. during the summer its hot as hell and during the winter its cold as hell so i don't know how that will go with your grandma
ComangliaDon't touch the midwest/rockies if you're trying to avoid shitty winters. i.e. North of Oklahoma, East of Northern Cali, Ohio and going west = usually bad winters. Especially if you think New York has bad winters...
Can confirm, Nebraska is a shit-hole for winters, do not move here
[quote=Comanglia]Don't touch the midwest/rockies if you're trying to avoid shitty winters. i.e. North of Oklahoma, East of Northern Cali, Ohio and going west = usually bad winters. Especially if you think New York has bad winters...[/quote]
Can confirm, Nebraska is a shit-hole for winters, do not move here
How much choice do you even have here?
1. Look for jobs to the south.
2. Get a job.
3. Move to wherever that job is.
How much choice do you even have here?
1. Look for jobs to the south.
2. Get a job.
3. Move to wherever that job is.
I live in Philly, and I can tell you after living here for around 13-14 years the weather can get pretty Bipolar. Spring is really nice in Philly 90% of the time, fall usually only gets chilly so fall is also alright, winter can be decent some days or freezing with loads of snow other days, and summer can get very humid. If you're only planning to live in apartments/condominiums, its pretty cheap if you know where to look-I live specifically in NE philly. Most apartments/condominiums go for $700-$1000 a month and studios can go as low as $400-500 a month. I'm not sure how the job market here is since I'm only going to be beginning college this year or the next, so I can't help you out there.
I live in Philly, and I can tell you after living here for around 13-14 years the weather can get pretty Bipolar. Spring is really nice in Philly 90% of the time, fall usually only gets chilly so fall is also alright, winter can be decent some days or freezing with loads of snow other days, and summer can get very humid. If you're only planning to live in apartments/condominiums, its pretty cheap if you know where to look-I live specifically in NE philly. Most apartments/condominiums go for $700-$1000 a month and studios can go as low as $400-500 a month. I'm not sure how the job market here is since I'm only going to be beginning college this year or the next, so I can't help you out there.
whatever you do dont fucking go [i]south[/i]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFNP3pfpj84
Mr_Harvarddont move to north carolina. ive lived here for almost 10 years now, and i live in the only decent part of it which is near the capital, and im tryna get the fuck out as soon as i graduate.
I don't know what this guy is talking about. I've lived in NC for 15 years and I've always found it to be a wonderful place. The cost of living here is very low and you can look at cities like Raleigh and Charlotte for jobs. Raleigh will probably be decently competitive, but like someone above me said, look for a job in places you're interested in and just move wherever seems most promising.
[quote=Mr_Harvard]dont move to north carolina. ive lived here for almost 10 years now, and i live in the only decent part of it which is near the capital, and im tryna get the fuck out as soon as i graduate. [/quote]
I don't know what this guy is talking about. I've lived in NC for 15 years and I've always found it to be a wonderful place. The cost of living here is very low and you can look at cities like Raleigh and Charlotte for jobs. Raleigh will probably be decently competitive, but like someone above me said, look for a job in places you're interested in and just move wherever seems most promising.
somewhere not in america so you dont get shot as soon as you exit your front door
somewhere not in america so you dont get shot as soon as you exit your front door
move to ohio if you like unpredictable weather that changes every other minute
move to ohio if you like unpredictable weather that changes every other minute
burntfishThe cost of living here is very low and you can look at cities like Raleigh and Charlotte for jobs. Raleigh will probably be decently competitive, but like someone above me said, look for a job in places you're interested in and just move wherever seems most promising.
The cost of living is not very low, it is alright, its not too high but its definetely not too low, and maybe the job market is alright in charlotte, but in Raleigh and in RTP, due to the extreme population increase, competition is very very strong. you are right, it depends on the job tho, if you are looking to become a homosexual male stripper then yea you might find a job soon, but if you are looking for anything from accounting to marketing to law to managerial and so on its going to take quite some time. lets not forget about the public school systems. the public school systems are beyond shit, there are a few areas that have decent schools but the state as a whole has terrible public education.
[quote=burntfish]The cost of living here is very low and you can look at cities like Raleigh and Charlotte for jobs. Raleigh will probably be decently competitive, but like someone above me said, look for a job in places you're interested in and just move wherever seems most promising.[/quote]
The cost of living is not very low, it is alright, its not too high but its definetely not too low, and maybe the job market is alright in charlotte, but in Raleigh and in RTP, due to the extreme population increase, competition is very very strong. you are right, it depends on the job tho, if you are looking to become a homosexual male stripper then yea you might find a job soon, but if you are looking for anything from accounting to marketing to law to managerial and so on its going to take quite some time. lets not forget about the public school systems. the public school systems are beyond shit, there are a few areas that have decent schools but the state as a whole has terrible public education.
decent amount of jobs in southern Ontario/GTA; summers are hot, winters are cold, and getting paid in Canadian dollar means you make ~18% more due to the exchange rate
oops i got that backwards, don't work in Canada unless you plan on living there
decent amount of jobs in southern Ontario/GTA; summers are hot, winters are cold, and getting paid in Canadian dollar means you make ~18% more due to the exchange rate
oops i got that backwards, don't work in Canada unless you plan on living there
gandhisomewhere not in america so you dont get shot as soon as you exit your front door
XD
[quote=gandhi]somewhere not in america so you dont get shot as soon as you exit your front door[/quote]
XD
south carolina is fucking disgusting
south carolina is fucking disgusting
move to alabama and u can farm and live off 10k a year its GREAT
move to alabama and u can farm and live off 10k a year its GREAT
If you dont like bad weather move to victoria BC, it's probably the only place in canada where if it snows, its every 4 years for the span of 2 days. It's almost always between 50-60F, summer can be 70s with a hot day in the summer might be 80, rarely goes below 40.
It's perfect, never super hot, never super cold. (unless you like super hot)
If you dont like bad weather move to victoria BC, it's probably the only place in canada where if it snows, its every 4 years for the span of 2 days. It's almost always between 50-60F, summer can be 70s with a hot day in the summer might be 80, rarely goes below 40.
It's perfect, never super hot, never super cold. (unless you like super hot)
rowpiecesMichigan ! the big problem is the weather. during the summer its hot as hell and during the winter its cold as hell so i don't know how that will go with your grandma
Depending on your non-STEM, there are places here that have decent business infrastructure.
The medical field is pretty big business and Western Michigan has a shitload of it that isn't actually practitioner stuff. Stryker, Perrigo some other names (mostly subsidiaries or child companies of those two) are pretty large near Kalamazoo. Craft Beer is a huge thing in the area as well.
[quote=rowpieces]Michigan ! the big problem is the weather. during the summer its hot as hell and during the winter its cold as hell so i don't know how that will go with your grandma[/quote]
Depending on your non-STEM, there are places here that have decent business infrastructure.
The medical field is pretty big business and Western Michigan has a shitload of it that isn't actually practitioner stuff. Stryker, Perrigo some other names (mostly subsidiaries or child companies of those two) are pretty large near Kalamazoo. Craft Beer is a huge thing in the area as well.
Daggerdecent amount of jobs in southern Ontario/GTA; summers are hot, winters are cold, and getting paid in Canadian dollar means you make ~18% more due to the exchange rate
You have this completely backwards, the Canadian dollar is really weak vs the USD right now, the last thing a US citizen wants to do is shift his income into CAD. (It's also generally not a safe bet to speculate on foreign exchange rates with your main source of income anyway, and should not be the basis for a move even with evidence of a long term change in real exchange rates)
[quote=Dagger]decent amount of jobs in southern Ontario/GTA; summers are hot, winters are cold, and getting paid in Canadian dollar means you make ~18% more due to the exchange rate[/quote]
You have this completely backwards, the Canadian dollar is really weak vs the USD right now, the last thing a US citizen wants to do is shift his income into CAD. (It's also generally not a safe bet to speculate on foreign exchange rates with your main source of income anyway, and should not be the basis for a move even with evidence of a long term change in real exchange rates)
can confirm that cost of living in Tennessee is dirt cheap. I found a 3br/2ba townhouse apartment up in Cookeville(about an hour away from Nashville) for about 675/mo. a while back, I couldnt take it since my roommate bailed on me. You can find pretty nice houses dirt cheap too.
EDIT: the 675 included electric, water, cable, wifi and garbage pickup.
can confirm that cost of living in Tennessee is dirt cheap. I found a 3br/2ba townhouse apartment up in Cookeville(about an hour away from Nashville) for about 675/mo. a while back, I couldnt take it since my roommate bailed on me. You can find pretty nice houses dirt cheap too.
EDIT: the 675 included electric, water, cable, wifi and garbage pickup.
move to wisconsin if you like snow in may
Besides the weather though, it isn't that bad. A bit boring though (it's so flat here).
move to wisconsin if you like snow in may
Besides the weather though, it isn't that bad. A bit boring though (it's so flat here).
So now that I'm settled in back home, I can explain some things I left out at 4am:
Bachelor's in not-STEM = Bachelor's in English. If someone asks the specifics, I say Literary Analysis and Argumentation because 90% of my coursework was about that.
I don't really have any specific needs or wants from where I'm living outside of a good gym, an economy where I don't get my shit pushed in by immigrants who will (try) to do the same entry-level job I'm applying for but for far cheaper, and good internet. I can live with crappy pizza and no Manhattan, and I've got no need for night life because I don't smoke and I don't drink. The weather doesn't bother me and I wouldn't complain if I had to live through a Wisconsin winter but my mom is looking for something more temperate after a lifetime in NYC. Our plan is to move somewhere where we can both stand on our own two feet and then locate a place for me to live on my own once we're gucci.
Funny enough, Glassdoor just published a "25 Best Cities for Jobs" in 2015 and Raleigh hit #1 so that instantly grabbed mom's attention. ATL is also still up there. I'm still interested in PA because of Carnegie Mellon.
So now that I'm settled in back home, I can explain some things I left out at 4am:
Bachelor's in not-STEM = Bachelor's in English. If someone asks the specifics, I say Literary Analysis and Argumentation because 90% of my coursework was about that.
I don't really have any specific needs or wants from where I'm living outside of a good gym, an economy where I don't get my shit pushed in by immigrants who will (try) to do the same entry-level job I'm applying for but for far cheaper, and good internet. I can live with crappy pizza and no Manhattan, and I've got no need for night life because I don't smoke and I don't drink. The weather doesn't bother me and I wouldn't complain if I had to live through a Wisconsin winter but my mom is looking for something more temperate after a lifetime in NYC. Our plan is to move somewhere where we can both stand on our own two feet and then locate a place for me to live on my own once we're gucci.
Funny enough, Glassdoor just published a "25 Best Cities for Jobs" in 2015 and Raleigh hit #1 so that instantly grabbed mom's attention. ATL is also still up there. I'm still interested in PA because of Carnegie Mellon.
raleighs got google fiber dude, go for it.
raleighs got google fiber dude, go for it.
as far as quality of life goes atlanta/PA are probably your best bets
as far as quality of life goes atlanta/PA are probably your best bets