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dave, take it easy on dem' pubbers
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let them build confidence, let them take baby steps, if they knew they are literary playing a meat grinder that's producing nerd splatter they wouldn't play the game to begin with

http://www.teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?44822-Dave_AC-Spawnkilling

let them build confidence, let them take baby steps, if they knew they are literary playing a meat grinder that's producing nerd splatter they wouldn't play the game to begin with

http://www.teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?44822-Dave_AC-Spawnkilling
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hes cheating

hes cheating
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Dave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.

Dave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.
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gr8stalinDave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.

So was I, not sure how it turned into such a shit fest.

[quote=gr8stalin]Dave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.[/quote]

So was I, not sure how it turned into such a shit fest.
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#5
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This is a pressing issue.

This is a pressing issue.
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#6
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0It7Mq-si4

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0It7Mq-si4[/youtube]
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#7
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Independent tf2 sub communities always have the worst admins lol.

I don't understand. Who actually considers these kids fit to manage anything?

Independent tf2 sub communities always have the worst admins lol.

I don't understand. Who actually considers these kids fit to manage anything?
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duwatnagr8stalinDave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.
So was I, not sure how it turned into such a shit fest.

I don't particularly know myself, but I have a few details I remember from what Impulsenine and Flamed (part of the old guard) told me. Impulsenine and I spoke somewhere 2 years ago and I asked how everyone was doing and apparently Mondo took an emotional turn for the worst seemingly out of the blue, ruffled a lot of feathers. Apollo ragequit his post soon after I left TI apparently because of some dispute he had with the admin team concerning a pubber. Flamed and I had a haphazard in-game reunion a few months ago, and he told me afterwards that there was a lot of hand-changing after I left. He confirmed the Apollo ragequit and Mondo's retirement, but he generally boiled it down to the old farts of TI just getting older and simply not having the time or energy for TF2 like they used to. I guess the new admin team just isn't up to par with how the old guys took justice and server-starting into their own hands back in the day. They've also expanded into some other games with questionable results.

Arcanus still works about 20 minutes away from my hometown, though. Still plays while on a treadmill. Some things don't change.

[quote=duwatna][quote=gr8stalin]Dave and I were TI members way back when. I tried to go back recently just to say hi, TI now is nothing like I remember it.[/quote]

So was I, not sure how it turned into such a shit fest.[/quote]
I don't particularly know myself, but I have a few details I remember from what Impulsenine and Flamed (part of the old guard) told me. Impulsenine and I spoke somewhere 2 years ago and I asked how everyone was doing and apparently Mondo took an emotional turn for the worst seemingly out of the blue, ruffled a lot of feathers. Apollo ragequit his post soon after I left TI apparently because of some dispute he had with the admin team concerning a pubber. Flamed and I had a haphazard in-game reunion a few months ago, and he told me afterwards that there was a lot of hand-changing after I left. He confirmed the Apollo ragequit and Mondo's retirement, but he generally boiled it down to the old farts of TI just getting older and simply not having the time or energy for TF2 like they used to. I guess the new admin team just isn't up to par with how the old guys took justice and server-starting into their own hands back in the day. They've also expanded into some other games with questionable results.

Arcanus still works about 20 minutes away from my hometown, though. Still plays while on a treadmill. Some things don't change.
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#9
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how did you find this

how did you find this
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I got banned from !? for having a shotgun with the f-word in the name and refusing to not use it.

I got banned from !? for having a shotgun with the f-word in the name and refusing to not use it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4

busted

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4[/youtube]
busted
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ChaChihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4
busted

dude thats not even spawncamping what the hell

[quote=ChaChi]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4
busted[/quote]
dude thats not even spawncamping what the hell
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ChaChihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4busted

I've been using custom huds so long now I forgot those gray bars exist for the average player.
Now it just hurts me to see them.

[quote=ChaChi]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpx15t1jj4busted[/quote]
I've been using custom huds so long now I forgot those gray bars exist for the average player.
Now it just hurts me to see them.
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who's this Dave_AC guy they're talking about... good thing Dave__AC isn't caught up in all this mess because i have the utmost respect for that guy

who's this Dave_AC guy they're talking about... good thing Dave__AC isn't caught up in all this mess because i have the utmost respect for that guy
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how on gods green earth is shooting stickies on one of FOUR possible exits spawncamping

how on gods green earth is shooting stickies on one of FOUR possible exits spawncamping
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Dave__AlwaysCamping

Dave__AlwaysCamping
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*

*
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#18
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shit servers

shit servers
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long time tf2 player and TI member here. I'm personally not involved with this issue, but from what I can tell the thread created by Boston Jake is only going to be used only for documentation - no action taken. The very brief video shows what looks to be like spawn camping, so I don't think TI is in the wrong here. If Dave continues to spawn camp on our server, further action will be taken. But I don't see that happening.

from the thread: "this should not be a big deal in any way. He was kicked once, with a complaint for public documentation and input for possible further action."

tetrominoI got banned from !? for having a shotgun with the f-word in the name and refusing to not use it.

Hi, I did a search for your STEAMID and there is no record of any complaint threads about you. Regardless, if you are referring to the word "faggot", that is against our rules because it's hatespeech. We encourage light cursing, but hatespeech crosses the line.

Also, fun fact, this thread was started by someone who has been quite the ordeal for us in the past.
appeal 2 http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?44679-Denied-Ban-Appeal-future&highlight=future+sandwich
appeal 1 http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?43466-DENIED-lets-be-quot-frank-quot&highlight=future+sandwich
issue thread 1?? http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?41500-Future-Sandwich-perma&highlight=future+sandwich
reddit witch hunt (lol) http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1gsvyg/i_need_impersonators/

tl;dr dave was spawncamping and has been warned. (and TI isn't as bad as some of you make it out to be)

long time tf2 player and TI member here. I'm personally not involved with this issue, but from what I can tell the thread created by Boston Jake is only going to be used only for documentation - no action taken. The very brief video shows what looks to be like spawn camping, so I don't think TI is in the wrong here. If Dave continues to spawn camp on our server, further action will be taken. But I don't see that happening.

from the thread: "this should not be a big deal in any way. He was kicked once, with a complaint for public documentation and input for possible further action."

[quote=tetromino]I got banned from !? for having a shotgun with the f-word in the name and refusing to not use it.[/quote]
Hi, I did a search for your STEAMID and there is no record of any complaint threads about you. Regardless, if you are referring to the word "faggot", that is against our rules because it's hatespeech. We encourage light cursing, but hatespeech crosses the line.

Also, fun fact, this thread was started by someone who has been quite the ordeal for us in the past.
appeal 2 http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?44679-Denied-Ban-Appeal-future&highlight=future+sandwich
appeal 1 http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?43466-DENIED-lets-be-quot-frank-quot&highlight=future+sandwich
issue thread 1?? http://teaminterrobang.com/showthread.php?41500-Future-Sandwich-perma&highlight=future+sandwich
reddit witch hunt (lol) http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1gsvyg/i_need_impersonators/

tl;dr dave was spawncamping and has been warned. (and TI isn't as bad as some of you make it out to be)
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newbie.tf
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Hero88goTI member here. I'm personally not involved with this issue, but from what I can tell the thread created by Boston Jake is only going to be used only for documentation - no action taken. The very brief video shows what looks to be like spawn camping, so I don't think TI is in the wrong here. If Dave continues to spawn camp on our server, further action will be taken. But I don't see that happening.

if you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say

[quote=Hero88go]TI member here. I'm personally not involved with this issue, but from what I can tell the thread created by Boston Jake is only going to be used only for documentation - no action taken. The very brief video shows what looks to be like spawn camping, so I don't think TI is in the wrong here. If Dave continues to spawn camp on our server, further action will be taken. But I don't see that happening.
[/quote]

if you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say
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KevinIsPwnif you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say

Yes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules

[quote=KevinIsPwn]
if you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say[/quote]
Yes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules
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Hero88goKevinIsPwnif you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to sayYes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules

At no point in that video does he ever have a line of sight to spawn or even the opportunity to put sticks on the spawn door.

[quote=Hero88go][quote=KevinIsPwn]
if you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say[/quote]
Yes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules[/quote]

At no point in that video does he ever have a line of sight to spawn or even the opportunity to put sticks on the spawn door.
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Hero88goKevinIsPwnif you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to sayYes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules

this is ridiculous why cant yall just wear hats and play tf2 lol

[quote=Hero88go][quote=KevinIsPwn]
if you think that door is the spawn then... i don't even know what to say[/quote]
Yes, he shoots multiple stickies at the spawn door in the video. As far as I know the courtyard traps aren't spawnkilling. For a more in-depth explanation of our spawn killing rules see http://teaminterrobang.com/content.php?9-server-rules[/quote]
this is ridiculous why cant yall just wear hats and play tf2 lol
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Spawncamping is basically a part of tf2, I don't get why people complain. If you get spawncamped you deserve it. Plus I'm guessing since it's a community 2fort server it's probably instant or fast respawn so even if he was sticky trapping the entire door, people spawn fast enough before he has time to reload and retrap. That goes too even if spawn times are normal.

Then again what I do I know about the mental capabilities of the average pubber on 24/7 2fort.

Spawncamping is basically a part of tf2, I don't get why people complain. If you get spawncamped you deserve it. Plus I'm guessing since it's a community 2fort server it's probably instant or fast respawn so even if he was sticky trapping the entire door, people spawn fast enough before he has time to reload and retrap. That goes too even if spawn times are normal.

Then again what I do I know about the mental capabilities of the average pubber on 24/7 2fort.
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im pretty sure that if he didnt get tattled on for being a spawncamper he would've been told on for aimbotting.

im pretty sure that if he didnt get tattled on for being a spawncamper he would've been told on for aimbotting.
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From their own website, a definition of spawn killing, with an example that says specifically that Dave__AC (note: 2 underscores) is not spawn camping:

Spawn Killing

Definition: Repeatedly killing players as they exit either the doored portion of the respawn area or another exit with limited visibility. The two criteria are repetition and lack of options after exiting the respawn for the person killed. If a player puts stickies in front of the respawn as you run by with the intel that's fine as it's not repeated. Standing there and repeatedly dropping stickies as your friend runs up the spiral is spawn killing. Any doored exit must be clear as must any area to where a respawn-exiting player may make a choice of how to go forward.

Philosophy: Spawn killing regularly creates game scenarios that players find extremely frustrating. Spawn killing negates the enjoyment intrinsic to respawning and rejoining active play.

Example: On ctf_2fort, the area in front of the main respawn (the respawn with a single exit) must be clear but the spiral/grate, battlement exit, or courtyard may be camped as by that point the respawn-exiting player had three movement options. The battlement-area of the secondary respawn (respawn with two exits) must be clear to the point where the respawn-exiting player could continue straight across the battlement or exit to the ground. The secondary respawn exit that opens to the ground floor must be open and free of repeat fire but either exit may be camped.

As far as I can tell from the video, the player that was "spawn camped" was a Pyro running through the door described above as "safe to camp". He never in that video put stickies at the spawn door.

From their own website, a definition of spawn killing, with an example that says specifically that Dave__AC (note: 2 underscores) is not spawn camping:

[quote]Spawn Killing

Definition: Repeatedly killing players as they exit either the doored portion of the respawn area or another exit with limited visibility. The two criteria are repetition and lack of options after exiting the respawn for the person killed. If a player puts stickies in front of the respawn as you run by with the intel that's fine as it's not repeated. Standing there and repeatedly dropping stickies as your friend runs up the spiral is spawn killing. Any doored exit must be clear as must any area to where a respawn-exiting player may make a choice of how to go forward.

Philosophy: Spawn killing regularly creates game scenarios that players find extremely frustrating. Spawn killing negates the enjoyment intrinsic to respawning and rejoining active play.

[b]Example: On ctf_2fort, the area in front of the main respawn (the respawn with a single exit) must be clear but the spiral/grate, battlement exit, or courtyard may be camped as by that point the respawn-exiting player had three movement options.[/b] The battlement-area of the secondary respawn (respawn with two exits) must be clear to the point where the respawn-exiting player could continue straight across the battlement or exit to the ground. The secondary respawn exit that opens to the ground floor must be open and free of repeat fire but either exit may be camped.
[/quote]

As far as I can tell from the video, the player that was "spawn camped" was a Pyro running through the door described above as "safe to camp". He never in that video put stickies at the spawn door.
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See, told you it turned into a shit fest. BTW that bostonjake guy got denied membership soooo many times, got banned at one point, re added to the team and still does that shit. lmfao

See, told you it turned into a shit fest. BTW that bostonjake guy got denied membership soooo many times, got banned at one point, re added to the team and still does that shit. lmfao
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if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn

if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn
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#29
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Tino_if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn

woah man, take it easy, your not even taking into effect all the freindlys, conga goons, and other chatter brains that spam the mic and don't even play the game that occupy whatever the fuck this "community" is! I mean damn, what is this, 2009 or something? who plays this game purely for the dm, or objectives?

its like you think this was a first person shooter or something ha ha ha.

[quote=Tino_]if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn[/quote]

woah man, take it easy, your not even taking into effect all the freindlys, conga goons, and other chatter brains that spam the mic and don't even play the game that occupy whatever the fuck this "community" is! I mean damn, what is this, 2009 or something? who plays this game purely for the dm, or objectives?

its like you think this was a first person shooter or something ha ha ha.
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newbie.tf
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futureTino_if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn
woah man, take it easy, your not even taking into effect all the freindlys, conga goons, and other chatter brains that spam the mic and don't even play the game that occupy whatever the fuck this "community" is! I mean damn, what is this, 2009 or something? who plays this game purely for the dm, or objectives?

its like you think this was a first person shooter or something ha ha ha.

i know it was a joke but it hurt my heart reading this :(

[quote=future][quote=Tino_]if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn[/quote]

woah man, take it easy, your not even taking into effect all the freindlys, conga goons, and other chatter brains that spam the mic and don't even play the game that occupy whatever the fuck this "community" is! I mean damn, what is this, 2009 or something? who plays this game purely for the dm, or objectives?

its like you think this was a first person shooter or something ha ha ha.[/quote]
i know it was a joke but it hurt my heart reading this :(
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