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#121
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wpminnowsTheManWithNoNamewpminnowsbetween this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good
what hiGPS video are you talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44dgjFD2eI

What a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.

[quote=wpminnows][quote=TheManWithNoName][quote=wpminnows]between this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good[/quote]

what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44dgjFD2eI[/quote]

What a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.
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#122
-6 Frags +

No need to get messy here. SnowBlindFrog states, "I have asked our AC team to review at least some of them. Keep in mind the current AC team is not the same people who reviewed her demos back in S5 that lead to her ban." until that case is sorted stop posting all this unnecessary shit that has nothing to do with the situation itself. Hell, I'll even get the Cartoon Network involved.

No need to get messy here. SnowBlindFrog states, "I have asked our AC team to review at least some of them. Keep in mind the current AC team is not the same people who reviewed her demos back in S5 that lead to her ban." until that case is sorted stop posting all this unnecessary shit that has nothing to do with the situation itself. Hell, I'll even get the Cartoon Network involved.
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#123
20 Frags +
Zoltan Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.
[quote=Zoltan] Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.[/quote]
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#124
8 Frags +

Hey wait isn't Axiomatic that guy that always complains when he doesn't do well? and accuses people of hacks when he gets outsniped? Hmmm

Hey wait isn't Axiomatic that guy that always complains when he doesn't do well? and accuses people of hacks when he gets outsniped? Hmmm
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#125
37 Frags +
SnivyMr_Owlwhy would you alias as phorofor what the actual fuck
I was just messing around the other day. Nothing serious.

hi im not good dont alias as me thx

[quote=Snivy][quote=Mr_Owl]why would you alias as phorofor what the actual fuck[/quote]

I was just messing around the other day. Nothing serious.[/quote]
hi im not good dont alias as me thx
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#126
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ZoltanWhat a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.

If your expectations of other humans is that they respect your beliefs and lifestyle choices (e.g. you want people to accept homosexuals and transgenders as humans rather than thinking less of them) then you should probably respect the beliefs and lifestyles of other people when they choose to refer to someone by their actual gender instead of their preferred gender. It's a huge double-standard that the entire LGBT community expects everyone to accept the beliefs and lifestyles of LGBT people, but those same LGBT people refuse to accept other people's beliefs.

Live and let live. I'm not transphobic; I'm a realist, and if there's one thing that's a fact of life, it's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWCdnkPkPE

[quote=Zoltan]
What a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.[/quote]

If your expectations of other humans is that they respect your beliefs and lifestyle choices (e.g. you want people to accept homosexuals and transgenders as humans rather than thinking less of them) then you should probably respect the beliefs and lifestyles of other people when they choose to refer to someone by their actual gender instead of their preferred gender. It's a huge double-standard that the entire LGBT community expects everyone to accept the beliefs and lifestyles of LGBT people, but those same LGBT people refuse to accept other people's beliefs.

Live and let live. I'm not transphobic; I'm a realist, and if there's one thing that's a fact of life, it's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWCdnkPkPE
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#127
5 Frags +

those related videos

those related videos
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#128
30 Frags +
smakersZoltanWhat a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.
If your expectations of other humans is that they respect your beliefs and lifestyle choices (e.g. you want people to accept homosexuals and transgenders as humans rather than thinking less of them) then you should probably respect the beliefs and lifestyles of other people when they choose to refer to someone by their actual gender instead of their preferred gender. It's a huge double-standard that the entire LGBT community expects everyone to accept the beliefs and lifestyles of LGBT people, but those same LGBT people refuse to accept other people's beliefs.

Live and let live. I'm not transphobic; I'm a realist, and if there's one thing that's a fact of life, it's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWCdnkPkPE

the problem is, you are objectively wrong about the definition of gender, because you are confusing gender with sex.

from that bastion of public knowledge, wikipedia:

"Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or intersex), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity."

if you don't know how being transgender works or dont know what a specific person is or what pronoun they prefer, an LGBT person harassing you for your ignorance is a double-standard. however, if you recognize the way they see themself and still refer to them by the WRONG pronoun based on the biological fallacy, you are a bigot.

[quote=smakers][quote=Zoltan]
What a fucking douche bag. Even after being corrected he insists on using male pronouns. Have some respect towards the people you are slandering.[/quote]

If your expectations of other humans is that they respect your beliefs and lifestyle choices (e.g. you want people to accept homosexuals and transgenders as humans rather than thinking less of them) then you should probably respect the beliefs and lifestyles of other people when they choose to refer to someone by their actual gender instead of their preferred gender. It's a huge double-standard that the entire LGBT community expects everyone to accept the beliefs and lifestyles of LGBT people, but those same LGBT people refuse to accept other people's beliefs.

Live and let live. I'm not transphobic; I'm a realist, and if there's one thing that's a fact of life, it's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWCdnkPkPE[/quote]

the problem is, you are objectively wrong about the definition of gender, because you are confusing gender with sex.

from that bastion of public knowledge, wikipedia:

"Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or intersex), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity."

if you don't know how being transgender works or dont know what a specific person is or what pronoun they prefer, an LGBT person harassing you for your ignorance is a double-standard. however, if you recognize the way they see themself and still refer to them by the WRONG pronoun based on the biological fallacy, you are a bigot.
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#129
18 Frags +

ok stop

ok stop
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#130
28 Frags +

can we not do this again

none of u will change how u feel on the subject and ur all stubborn as fuck

marisa doesnt cheat and is going to gxl

can we not do this again

none of u will change how u feel on the subject and ur all stubborn as fuck

marisa doesnt cheat and is going to gxl
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#131
13 Frags +

someone bring jesus in this plz.

someone bring jesus in this plz.
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#132
29 Frags +

On subject:

I watched Axiomatic's videos and they were pretty conclusive evidence that cheating is occurring. Unfortunately, they were conclusive evidence that Axiomatic is a cheating turd, and therefore my bans for him in pug systems will extend out until the year 2030.

Also, the shot m4risa made on the demo isn't even remotely fishy. There are many things to take into effect and looking at the one second before that shot and the half second during the shot shows very little insight. Maybe m4risa has played against that particular demo enough to know that player's tendencies in situations like that. Map knowledge is certainly accountable, i.e. you're the last player alive near the point and you think maybe you can escape, so you opt to sticky jump away. As a sniper, you frequently have to predict what a player is going to do. Hell, you have to do that on every class.

It's obvious the demo is going to sticky jump away, so all you have to do is guess where he'll go and react accordingly. You consider the possibilities and assume that the quickest way for the demo to escape (knowing the demo will be trying to avoid your shot) is a quick straight sticky jump with little arc. How can he accomplish that? Where can he go? The answer is obvious. Under the balcony area. The shot was 50% map/player/situational knowledge, 25% skill, and 25% luck. Going for a shot like that is nothing out of the ordinary. Landing it is a bit lucky. The fact that it ended up being a headshot was pure luck. Nothing at all looked fishy in that clip.

The fact that axiomatic goes on to say something to the effect of 'there's no way a human could think about that many things that fast' is one of the biggest loads of crap I've ever read. If you can't think that quickly, you've got a serious brain problem.

In regards to 'twitching after firing'... I don't see how that's unnatural. I've always done it. I suspect most people do it involuntarily to some degree. Hell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sizl9HTGJk8

On subject:

I watched Axiomatic's videos and they were pretty conclusive evidence that cheating is occurring. Unfortunately, they were conclusive evidence that Axiomatic is a cheating turd, and therefore my bans for him in pug systems will extend out until the year 2030.

Also, the shot m4risa made on the demo isn't even remotely fishy. There are many things to take into effect and looking at the one second before that shot and the half second during the shot shows very little insight. Maybe m4risa has played against that particular demo enough to know that player's tendencies in situations like that. Map knowledge is certainly accountable, i.e. you're the last player alive near the point and you think maybe you can escape, so you opt to sticky jump away. As a sniper, you frequently have to predict what a player is going to do. Hell, you have to do that on every class.

It's obvious the demo is going to sticky jump away, so all you have to do is guess where he'll go and react accordingly. You consider the possibilities and assume that the quickest way for the demo to escape (knowing the demo will be trying to avoid your shot) is a quick straight sticky jump with little arc. How can he accomplish that? Where can he go? The answer is obvious. Under the balcony area. The shot was 50% map/player/situational knowledge, 25% skill, and 25% luck. Going for a shot like that is nothing out of the ordinary. Landing it is a bit lucky. The fact that it ended up being a headshot was pure luck. Nothing at all looked fishy in that clip.

The fact that axiomatic goes on to say something to the effect of 'there's no way a human could think about that many things that fast' is one of the biggest loads of crap I've ever read. If you can't think that quickly, you've got a serious brain problem.

In regards to 'twitching after firing'... I don't see how that's unnatural. I've always done it. I suspect most people do it involuntarily to some degree. Hell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sizl9HTGJk8
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#133
-7 Frags +

welp.

welp.
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#134
35 Frags +
4:20 PM - m4risa: ya i hack

undeniable proof m4risa hacks

[quote]4:20 PM - m4risa: ya i hack[/quote]


undeniable proof m4risa hacks
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#135
-10 Frags +
clorg4:20 PM - m4risa: ya i hack
[quote=clorg][quote][b]4:20[/b] PM - m4risa: ya i hack[/quote]
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#136
12 Frags +
smakersIf you can't think that quickly, you've got a serious brain problem.

This can sum up the entire discussion pretty quickly.

[quote=smakers]If you can't think that quickly, you've got a serious brain problem.
[/quote]
This can sum up the entire discussion pretty quickly.
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#137
5 Frags +

This guy is fucking weird

This guy is fucking weird
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#138
2 Frags +
smakersIn regards to 'twitching after firing'... I don't see how that's unnatural. I've always done it. I suspect most people do it involuntarily to some degree. Hell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.8

I've always found that to be the case as well. Especially if you haven't got a high-DPI mouse, your crosshair can definitely wobble substantially in the direction of movement after you flick a shot over a significant distance on your mousepad. A lot of people aren't able to keep their elbow/wrist/fingers perfectly still after throwing their hand very quickly and low DPI would only make that worse. It's like releasing your brakes on your car after stepping on them firmly; the car wobbles back and forth on the suspension a bit before it levels out again.

[quote=smakers]In regards to 'twitching after firing'... I don't see how that's unnatural. I've always done it. I suspect most people do it involuntarily to some degree. Hell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.8[/quote]
I've always found that to be the case as well. Especially if you haven't got a high-DPI mouse, your crosshair can definitely wobble substantially in the direction of movement after you flick a shot over a significant distance on your mousepad. A lot of people aren't able to keep their elbow/wrist/fingers perfectly still after throwing their hand very quickly and low DPI would only make that worse. It's like releasing your brakes on your car after stepping on them firmly; the car wobbles back and forth on the suspension a bit before it levels out again.
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#139
11 Frags +

nothing is funnier than watching clueless people analyze aim

nothing is funnier than watching clueless people analyze aim
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#140
2 Frags +

the only time i ever suspected m4risa of cheating was this one cloaked spy frag on sawmill or something

and that's not saying a lot, i'm paranoid of cheaters

the only time i ever suspected m4risa of cheating was this one cloaked spy frag on sawmill or something

and that's not saying a lot, i'm paranoid of cheaters
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#141
9 Frags +
smakersHell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sizl9HTGJk8

lol thanks for doing our work smaka now please kindly ban urself from pugs please cheater

[quote=smakers]Hell, here's a crappy clip from 5+ years ago where you can see my "down and left" motion after every shot I take. I suppose it's clear evidence of cheating, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sizl9HTGJk8[/quote]

lol thanks for doing our work smaka now please kindly ban urself from pugs please cheater
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#142
3 Frags +

how do you analyze aim exactly?

how do you analyze aim exactly?
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#143
3 Frags +
wareyathe only time i ever suspected m4risa of cheating was this one cloaked spy frag on sawmill or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zh-IyAvC7w

WHAT AREN'T YOU TELLING US WORMS

[quote=wareya]the only time i ever suspected m4risa of cheating was this one cloaked spy frag on sawmill or something[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zh-IyAvC7w

WHAT AREN'T YOU TELLING US WORMS
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#144
4 Frags +
Rikachuhow do you analyze aim exactly?

shit like this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2fj6p5/release_cheat_catching_aim_analysis_tool_for_pov/
but as far as i know, nobody uses stuff like this in tf2 scene. not sure why.

[quote=Rikachu]how do you analyze aim exactly?[/quote]
shit like this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2fj6p5/release_cheat_catching_aim_analysis_tool_for_pov/
but as far as i know, nobody uses stuff like this in tf2 scene. not sure why.
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#145
15 Frags +

marisa doesn't hack

not really surprised that this drama is stemming from axio though lol

marisa doesn't hack

not really surprised that this drama is stemming from axio though lol
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#146
7 Frags +

Since people keep asking for the respect of Marisa, I suppose I'll be the devil's advocate and ask for the respect of Axio. Even if you don't agree with him or his actions, he's still a person.

Calling Axio names and impersonating him isn't funny.

Since people keep asking for the respect of Marisa, I suppose I'll be the devil's advocate and ask for the respect of Axio. Even if you don't agree with him or his actions, he's still a person.

Calling Axio names and impersonating him isn't funny.
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#147
12 Frags +
katowseSince people keep asking for the respect of Marisa, I suppose I'll be the devil's advocate and ask for the respect of Axio. Even if you don't agree with him or his actions, he's still a person.

Calling Axio names and impersonating him isn't funny.

You have obviously never had any interaction with axio. Some people are undeserving of respect. I believe reading his posts on the UGC thread should give you a good enough judge of his character to determine if he is entitled to respect.

[quote=katowse]Since people keep asking for the respect of Marisa, I suppose I'll be the devil's advocate and ask for the respect of Axio. Even if you don't agree with him or his actions, he's still a person.

Calling Axio names and impersonating him isn't funny.[/quote]
You have obviously never had any interaction with axio. Some people are undeserving of respect. I believe reading his posts on the UGC thread should give you a good enough judge of his character to determine if he is entitled to respect.
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#148
-3 Frags +
harbleuYou have obviously never had any interaction with axio. Some people are undeserving of respect. I believe reading his posts on the UGC thread should give you a good enough judge of his character to determine if he is entitled to respect.

I read most of the thread. All I get from reading it is that he feels very strongly about getting Marisa banned and is willing to do and say anything to get a result. Disagree politely and don't feed into his obsession. If Marisa isn't hacking she doesn't have anything to worry about.

edit: My personal opinion is that Axio has no argument and no proof.
I believe that he doesn't realize what he's doing and shouldn't get this type of reaction. Getting him banned from UGC/whatever else is much more appropriate

[quote=harbleu]
You have obviously never had any interaction with axio. Some people are undeserving of respect. I believe reading his posts on the UGC thread should give you a good enough judge of his character to determine if he is entitled to respect.[/quote]

I read most of the thread. All I get from reading it is that he feels very strongly about getting Marisa banned and is willing to do and say anything to get a result. Disagree politely and don't feed into his obsession. If Marisa isn't hacking she doesn't have anything to worry about.

edit: My personal opinion is that Axio has no argument and no proof.
I believe that he doesn't realize what he's doing and shouldn't get this type of reaction. Getting him banned from UGC/whatever else is much more appropriate
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#149
-1 Frags +

you don't have to be neutral in situations that are onesided

you don't have to be neutral in situations that are onesided
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#150
14 Frags +

good snipers will forever piss people off.

also, from what i've gathered reading the first 10 posts and skipping the rest of the thread is that this guy has been banned from pugs and tftv forums so he had to post on the ugc forum? shouldn't the fact that he is moronic enough to accomplish those things invalidate his opinion?

good snipers will forever piss people off.

also, from what i've gathered reading the first 10 posts and skipping the rest of the thread is that this guy has been banned from pugs and tftv forums so he had to post on the ugc forum? shouldn't the fact that he is moronic enough to accomplish those things invalidate his opinion?
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