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BenQ xl2411t which cables for 120hz?
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The title pretty much explains it.

Some more about my problem.
I recently brought a BenQ xl2411t and it just arrived today. I unboxed and plugged it in, but there was only the option for 60 hertz in windows...

i have read that it could be some about that you need a dvi cabel for 120hertz. If thats true can i use a dvi to hdmi cabel then. because my laptop (msi gt683dxr) dont have a dvi port. so is it even possible for me to get 120hertz? or am i just screwed....

i apologize for my bad english.

The title pretty much explains it.

[b]Some more about my problem.[/b]
I recently brought a BenQ xl2411t and it just arrived today. I unboxed and plugged it in, but there was only the option for 60 hertz in windows...

i have read that it could be some about that you need a dvi cabel for 120hertz. If thats true can i use a dvi to hdmi cabel then. because [b]my laptop (msi gt683dxr) dont have a dvi port.[/b] so is it even possible for me to get 120hertz? or am i just screwed....

i apologize for my bad english.
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You need a dual-link DVI cable to run 120hz. Regular DVI or HDMI doesn't have enough bandwidth. Displayport can run 120hz if you have it on your laptop, otherwise you might be screwed yeah.

You need a dual-link DVI cable to run 120hz. Regular DVI or HDMI doesn't have enough bandwidth. Displayport can run 120hz if you have it on your laptop, otherwise you might be screwed yeah.
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#3
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HDMI is DVI with sound, so it should theoretically work.
EDIT: But it has to be the right version. Read #5

HDMI is DVI with sound, so it should theoretically work.
EDIT: But it has to be the right version. Read #5
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brownymasterHDMI is DVI with sound, so it should theoretically work.

EDIT: darkk-You need a dual-link DVI cable to run 120hz. Regular DVI or HDMI doesn't have enough bandwidth. Displayport can run 120hz if you have it on your laptop, otherwise you might be screwed yeah.HDMI uses the same signal as DVI for video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Whether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.

Let me get this right. i can use my hdmi for 120hertz?

Just an other thing what drivers then? nvidea drivers?

[quote=brownymaster]HDMI is DVI with sound, so it should theoretically work.

EDIT: [quote=darkk-]You need a dual-link DVI cable to run 120hz. Regular DVI or HDMI doesn't have enough bandwidth. Displayport can run 120hz if you have it on your laptop, otherwise you might be screwed yeah.[/quote]
HDMI uses the same signal as DVI for video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Whether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.[/quote]
Let me get this right. i can use my hdmi for 120hertz?

Just an other thing what drivers then? nvidea drivers?
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Whether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. You will notice that a regular DVI cable only uses half of the possible pins while a dual link cable connects all the pins.

To use HDMI, your port (and cable) would have to be HDMI 1.4, which is unusual but possible, check your manual.
Otherwise there is only dual link dvi and (mini)displayport which your labtop doesn't seem to have.

Drivers shouldn't be an issue if oyu have the latest ones.

tl;dr if your HDMI is not 1.4 you need other hardware.

[quote]Whether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Yes it does. You will notice that a regular DVI cable only uses half of the possible pins while a dual link cable connects all the pins.

To use HDMI, your port (and cable) would have to be [b]HDMI 1.4[/b], which is unusual but possible, check your manual.
Otherwise there is only [b]dual link dvi[/b] and [b](mini)displayport[/b] which your labtop doesn't seem to have.

Drivers shouldn't be an issue if oyu have the latest ones.

tl;dr if your HDMI is not 1.4 you need other hardware.
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the301stspartanWhether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does. You will notice that a regular DVI cable only uses half of the possible pins while a dual link cable connects all the pins.

To use HDMI, your port (and cable) would have to be HDMI 1.4, which is unusual but possible, check your manual.
Otherwise there is only dual link dvi and (mini)displayport which your labtop doesn't seem to have.

Drivers shouldn't be an issue if oyu have the latest ones.

tl;dr if your HDMI is not 1.4 you need other hardware.

Forgot about Dual-DVI/older HDMI. You are right, it does matter which.

[quote=the301stspartan][quote]Whether or not the computer drivers can do it is what I'm not sure of, but I imagine so. Bandwidth has nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Yes it does. You will notice that a regular DVI cable only uses half of the possible pins while a dual link cable connects all the pins.

To use HDMI, your port (and cable) would have to be [b]HDMI 1.4[/b], which is unusual but possible, check your manual.
Otherwise there is only [b]dual link dvi[/b] and [b](mini)displayport[/b] which your labtop doesn't seem to have.

Drivers shouldn't be an issue if oyu have the latest ones.

tl;dr if your HDMI is not 1.4 you need other hardware.[/quote]
Forgot about Dual-DVI/older HDMI. You are right, it does matter which.
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Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.

Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.
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darkk-Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.

Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this and how do i check if have it?
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?

[quote=darkk-]Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.[/quote]
[size=10]Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..[/size]

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this [b]and how do i check if have it?[/b]
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?
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ishzbtdarkk-Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.
Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?

You need a 1.4b HDMI CABLE. And you can't use VGA at all. HDMI is still pretty bad for pushing 1080p 120hz, but you have a laptop, which doesn't offer an option for DL-DVI. So HDMI is all you've got.

[quote=ishzbt][quote=darkk-]Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.[/quote]
[size=10]Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..[/size]

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?[/quote]

You need a 1.4b HDMI [b]CABLE[/b]. And you can't use VGA at all. HDMI is still pretty bad for pushing 1080p 120hz, but you have a laptop, which doesn't offer an option for DL-DVI. So HDMI is all you've got.
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Bioishzbtdarkk-Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.
Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?

You need a 1.4b HDMI CABLE. And you can't use VGA at all. HDMI is still pretty bad for pushing 1080p 120hz, but you have a laptop, which doesn't offer an option for DL-DVI. So HDMI is all you've got.

Oh Dear god THANK you, was just getting worried that i couldn't run 120hertz on my new monitor, well kinda don

[quote=Bio][quote=ishzbt][quote=darkk-]Certain versions of HDMI (1.4a or 1.4b I think) can technically support the bandwidth for 1080p @ 120hz, but the problem is no 120hz monitor I know of will support it.

I think you could run 1280x720 at 120hz, give it a try. I don't think your laptop would be able to run 1920x1080 at above 60 fps anyways.[/quote]
[size=10]Can max out bf3 and get above 60 fps , and i get above 180 fps in tf2..[/size]

Anyways hdmi 1.4 is it about the cable or the port? sry im a BIGG newb at this
and
Is it possible to get a dual dvi to vga/hdmi cable to achieve 120hertz or shall i have a dvi port for 120hertz?[/quote]

You need a 1.4b HDMI [b]CABLE[/b]. And you can't use VGA at all. HDMI is still pretty bad for pushing 1080p 120hz, but you have a laptop, which doesn't offer an option for DL-DVI. So HDMI is all you've got.[/quote]
Oh Dear god THANK you, was just getting worried that i couldn't run 120hertz on my new monitor, well kinda don
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#11
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also http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/lightboost/

also http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/lightboost/
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Your HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.

Your HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.
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smakersYour HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.

Well how do i check if i have a hdmi 1.4a/b port?

[quote=smakers]Your HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.[/quote]
Well how do i check if i have a hdmi 1.4a/b port?
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You have to check your labtop's hardware, maybe the manual, maybe even call msi support.
But tbh it's not super likely that your hdmi port is 1.4.
If it is, you are lucky because the benq has a hdmi 1.4 input. You'll stil need the according cable.
If your labtop doesn't have hdmi 1.4 output, you'll probably have to get a PC of some sort or, if you really wanted, be McGyver and hack something together with an external graphics card.

You have to check your labtop's hardware, maybe the manual, maybe even call msi support.
But tbh it's not super likely that your hdmi port is 1.4.
If it is, you are lucky because the benq has a hdmi 1.4 input. You'll stil need the according cable.
If your labtop doesn't have hdmi 1.4 output, you'll probably have to get a PC of some sort or, if you really wanted, be McGyver and hack something together with an external graphics card.
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ishzbtsmakersYour HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.Well how do i check if i have a hdmi 1.4a/b port?

I don't think any laptops run HDMI 1.4, since there really isn't any need for it for 99% of the market.

[quote=ishzbt][quote=smakers]Your HDMI port needs to be 1.4a/b or better as well as the cable. 120hz is a huge difference from 60hz. Signal converters will not work at 120hz.[/quote]
Well how do i check if i have a hdmi 1.4a/b port?[/quote]

I don't think any laptops run HDMI 1.4, since there really isn't any need for it for 99% of the market.
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This says HDMI 1.4
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?id=328

And your BenQ model:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/benq-launches-xl2411t-3d-ready-led-gaming-monitor-for-rs-22500-369681

So you should be good.

This says HDMI 1.4
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?id=328

And your BenQ model:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/benq-launches-xl2411t-3d-ready-led-gaming-monitor-for-rs-22500-369681

So you should be good.
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brownymasterThis says HDMI 1.4
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?id=328

And your BenQ model:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/benq-launches-xl2411t-3d-ready-led-gaming-monitor-for-rs-22500-369681

So you should be good.

I guess I looked up the wrong model number, the one I found said it wasn't. I was wrong and you were very lucky :P

[quote=brownymaster]This says HDMI 1.4
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?id=328

And your BenQ model:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/benq-launches-xl2411t-3d-ready-led-gaming-monitor-for-rs-22500-369681

So you should be good.[/quote]

I guess I looked up the wrong model number, the one I found said it wasn't. I was wrong and you were very lucky :P
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Wow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.

Wow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.
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the301stspartanWow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.

Well any recommendations on what cable i should get. One of my friends said that i should get a 1.4b for 120hertz but im not sure if that

[quote=the301stspartan]Wow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.[/quote]
Well any recommendations on what cable i should get. One of my friends said that i should get a 1.4b for 120hertz but im not sure if that
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the301stspartanWow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.

What are you talking about? HDMI cables are digital there's no difference between a $5 cable and this.

[quote=the301stspartan]Wow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.[/quote]
What are you talking about? HDMI cables are digital there's no difference between a $5 cable and [url=http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Ethernet-Connection-meters/dp/B003CT2A6I/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1382742575&sr=1-1&keywords=diamond+hdmi&tag=teamfortresst-20]this[/url].
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Drewthe301stspartanWow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.
What are you talking about? HDMI cables are digital there's no difference between a $5 cable and this.

Fact is my bad HDMI cable produces a noisy bad image and is probably going to break soon and a good one doesn't.

Well any recommendations on what cable i should get. One of my friends said that i should get a 1.4b for 120hertz but im not sure if that
[quote=Drew][quote=the301stspartan]Wow looks like you are super duper lucky!
All you need now is a quality HDMI 1.4 cable, bad HDMI cables tend to produce piss poor images.
But it's still cheap. And you will be able to use lightboost without any hassle because your labtop has an nvidia gpu.[/quote]
What are you talking about? HDMI cables are digital there's no difference between a $5 cable and [url=http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Ethernet-Connection-meters/dp/B003CT2A6I/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1382742575&sr=1-1&keywords=diamond+hdmi&tag=teamfortresst-20]this[/url].[/quote]

Fact is my bad HDMI cable produces a noisy bad image and is probably going to break soon and a good one doesn't.

[quote]Well any recommendations on what cable i should get. One of my friends said that i should get a 1.4b for 120hertz but im not sure if that
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Obviously you should go for the best quality HDMI cables ever:
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-1m-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT08E4

But srsly, most cables have to pass a certain quality test to be certified.

Obviously you should go for the best quality HDMI cables ever:
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-1m-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT08E4?tag=teamfortresst-20

But srsly, most cables have to pass a certain quality test to be certified.
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brownymasterObviously you should go for the best quality HDMI cables ever:
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-1m-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT08E4

But srsly, most cables have to pass a certain quality test to be certified.
My television is capable of displaying 480p, and I have a 2.1 surround sound system.

So you can imagine my astonishment after I plugged this into my system - and suddenly my television was rendering at 2160p, and I had full 7.1 surround!

Now the bad:

If you have an older HDMI-capable system, this cable is simply too fast. By which I mean that it transports electrons at a rate faster than your system can handle. This has a strange warping effect - and ends up showing you content from the future. A friend of mine got this on my recommendation, and ever since he connected it to his cable box and television, he has been receiving programming approximately 93 seconds ahead of the rest of the world.
[quote=brownymaster]Obviously you should go for the best quality HDMI cables ever:
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-1m-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT08E4?tag=teamfortresst-20

But srsly, most cables have to pass a certain quality test to be certified.[/quote]


[quote]My television is capable of displaying 480p, and I have a 2.1 surround sound system.

So you can imagine my astonishment after I plugged this into my system - and suddenly my television was rendering at 2160p, and I had full 7.1 surround!

Now the bad:

If you have an older HDMI-capable system, this cable is simply too fast. By which I mean that it transports electrons at a rate faster than your system can handle. This has a strange warping effect - and ends up showing you content from the future. A friend of mine got this on my recommendation, and ever since he connected it to his cable box and television, he has been receiving programming approximately 93 seconds ahead of the rest of the world. [/quote]
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My house recently went into foreclosure and i needed something to cheer me up. I walked into the nearest best buy with the intention of just browsing and not purchasing anything. I was approached by a beautiful sales woman who said i looked very depressed and needed an HDMI cable in my life. She showed me the most expensive one they had. I explained to her my situation and she informed me there really was no point in paying my house since i was gonna lose it anyways. This made sense to me and i skipped my house payment and bought the cable.
As i waited at the bus stop i couldn't wait to tell all my friends. I found the nearest pay phone and called my friends collect. They were even more excited than me! The next day i was evicted from my house but was invited to stay over my friends for the weekend because they wanted to use the cable to watch sports games. "Wow the picture quality is simply amazing" said my friend. "You can stay here as long you want as long as we keep using this great cable of yours". I now have a permanent home without an expensive mortgage payment! I'm just thankful i found this cable! I don't know where i would be without it!

What's great about it: Eliminates mortgage payment
What's not so great: Only one color
[quote]My house recently went into foreclosure and i needed something to cheer me up. I walked into the nearest best buy with the intention of just browsing and not purchasing anything. I was approached by a beautiful sales woman who said i looked very depressed and needed an HDMI cable in my life. She showed me the most expensive one they had. I explained to her my situation and she informed me there really was no point in paying my house since i was gonna lose it anyways. This made sense to me and i skipped my house payment and bought the cable.
As i waited at the bus stop i couldn't wait to tell all my friends. I found the nearest pay phone and called my friends collect. They were even more excited than me! The next day i was evicted from my house but was invited to stay over my friends for the weekend because they wanted to use the cable to watch sports games. "Wow the picture quality is simply amazing" said my friend. "You can stay here as long you want as long as we keep using this great cable of yours". I now have a permanent home without an expensive mortgage payment! I'm just thankful i found this cable! I don't know where i would be without it!

What's great about it: Eliminates mortgage payment
What's not so great: Only one color
[/quote]
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#25
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DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.

DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.
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blackdiamondbr0DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.

Did you even read the thread?

[quote=blackdiamondbr0]DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.[/quote]
Did you even read the thread?
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#27
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When it comes to hdmi cables, you are paying for quality.

When it comes to hdmi cables, you are paying for quality.
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#28
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supercellblackdiamondbr0DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.
Did you even read the thread?

Just the first post.

[quote=supercell][quote=blackdiamondbr0]DisplayPort or Dual Link DVI

I highly doubt your laptop has a DisplayPort port, but if it does, there's your ticket.[/quote]
Did you even read the thread?[/quote]


Just the first post.
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Hello guys, i have a msi gt60 0nc 491xfr but with optimus, if i buy the hdmi câble linked, would I be able to run 120 or 140hz with a benq monitor knowing that my system have optimus which limit the system at 60hz.

( have only vga and hdmi output )

Thx.

Hello guys, i have a msi gt60 0nc 491xfr but with optimus, if i buy the hdmi câble linked, would I be able to run 120 or 140hz with a benq monitor knowing that my system have optimus which limit the system at 60hz.

( have only vga and hdmi output )

Thx.
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I don't think that hdmi would be able to give 120Hz, and the vga certainty won't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI no mention of 120Hz capability.

I don't think that hdmi would be able to give 120Hz, and the vga certainty won't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI no mention of 120Hz capability.
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