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America vs. Europe
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#91
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bassheadhttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167812706

badge for the documentary

would it be available to anyone? or only the people who preordered?i bought it the day it came out.
also, the cyzer interview bomb

[quote=basshead]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167812706

badge for the documentary[/quote]
would it be available to anyone? or only the people who preordered?i bought it the day it came out.
also, the cyzer interview bomb
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#92
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now only if my paypal wasnt locked, geegeee

now only if my paypal wasnt locked, geegeee
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#93
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Thanks for the feedback folks, for both the positive and negative. You grow with both.

As Luc already said, we're not done yet. More interviews to come.

Maybe a little Making Of, who knows. Some folks are probably wondering how to make their own, and this being our first documentary, it's worth sharing the lessons we've learned.

Interested ?

Thanks for the feedback folks, for both the positive and negative. You grow with both.

As Luc already said, we're not done yet. More interviews to come.

Maybe a little Making Of, who knows. Some folks are probably wondering how to make their own, and this being our first documentary, it's worth sharing the lessons we've learned.

Interested ?
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#94
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good dayy to be a nerd

good dayy to be a nerd
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#95
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Bought it. Watching it right naaawwww.

Bought it. Watching it right naaawwww.
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#96
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Just watched it, really enjoyed, great job.

Just watched it, really enjoyed, great job.
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#97
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It was pretty cool, but it seems like you guys lacked a shit ton of filler footage. No establishing shots like exterior of venue, Telford, players traveling/socializing, or basically anything aside from one camera interviews, and games. It was probably an issue of time and equipment, but it comes off as being pretty flat due to it. Stuff like that helps the narrative immensely come editing time even if it seems like utter trash when you're filming it.

It was pretty cool, but it seems like you guys lacked a shit ton of filler footage. No establishing shots like exterior of venue, Telford, players traveling/socializing, or basically anything aside from one camera interviews, and games. It was probably an issue of time and equipment, but it comes off as being pretty flat due to it. Stuff like that helps the narrative immensely come editing time even if it seems like utter trash when you're filming it.
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#98
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Gotta agree with Oaf, the interviews started to get a bit repetitive and some more variety would of been great. Still well worth it glad it wasnt just a frag show

Gotta agree with Oaf, the interviews started to get a bit repetitive and some more variety would of been great. Still well worth it glad it wasnt just a frag show
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#99
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I'll try to keep this brief as I don't want to spoil too much for those who are watching tomorrow.

I liked it!

I could poke holes in it all day if I was really bothered, but I think it was a smooth, well thought out production, and honestly TF2 hasn't had anything on this level produced before. It had the right level's of comedy and seriousness, yet it wasn't arrogant in saying, "OMG TF2 IS THE BEST". Great job to all those involved.

As for the biggest gripe with the production. I feel the grand final needed some movement to the TF2 camera work. From those static positions, it felt like it sucked quite a bit of the atmosphere out of what was actually happening. But honestly... this is me being hyper critical.

This was footage captured by one film team, some photos and game footage, and yet even with those limited resources, I feel a large portion of the atmosphere and community spirit was captured in this documentary.

I'll try to keep this brief as I don't want to spoil too much for those who are watching tomorrow.

I liked it!

I could poke holes in it all day if I was really bothered, but I think it was a smooth, well thought out production, and honestly TF2 hasn't had anything on this level produced before. It had the right level's of comedy and seriousness, yet it wasn't arrogant in saying, "OMG TF2 IS THE BEST". Great job to all those involved.

As for the biggest gripe with the production. I feel the grand final needed some movement to the TF2 camera work. From those static positions, it felt like it sucked quite a bit of the atmosphere out of what was actually happening. But honestly... this is me being hyper critical.

This was footage captured by one film team, some photos and game footage, and yet even with those limited resources, I feel a large portion of the atmosphere and community spirit was captured in this documentary.
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#100
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"Started from the bottom, now we're here" - Kevin "Drake" Mackey

"Started from the bottom, now we're here" - Kevin "Drake" Mackey
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#101
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Show Content
US win
[spoiler]US win[/spoiler]
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#102
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Just glorious! I can't put it into anymore words! Thanks to everyone who made it happen, really made tf2 (for me anyway) less about people I heard about on the internet and more about the person actually playing the game!

Just glorious! I can't put it into anymore words! Thanks to everyone who made it happen, really made tf2 (for me anyway) less about people I heard about on the internet and more about the person actually playing the game!
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#103
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Congrats on making it to the official Teamfortress facebook page!

https://www.facebook.com/TeamFortress2?ref=stream&hc_location=stream

Congrats on making it to the official Teamfortress facebook page!

https://www.facebook.com/TeamFortress2?ref=stream&hc_location=stream
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#104
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It's fucking INSANE what that did for the reach of our post... within 15 minutes we went from about 2000 people to almost 100,000.

It's fucking INSANE what that did for the reach of our post... within 15 minutes we went from about 2000 people to almost 100,000.
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#105
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Whens the lo-fi version coming to Youtube? I thought it was supposed to be released today :(

Whens the lo-fi version coming to Youtube? I thought it was supposed to be released today :(
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#106
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r4ptureWhens the lo-fi version coming to Youtube? I thought it was supposed to be released today :(

tomorrow

[quote=r4pture]Whens the lo-fi version coming to Youtube? I thought it was supposed to be released today :([/quote]
tomorrow
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#107
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Really eXcellent production quality. Awesome job dudes.

Really eXcellent production quality. Awesome job dudes.
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#108
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really wish there was a torrent version of this :( (even if it was a 30? frame 720P version)

edit: i paid for it, i just want it faster...

really wish there was a torrent version of this :( (even if it was a 30? frame 720P version)


edit: i paid for it, i just want it faster...
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#109
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HYPEE!

HYPEE!
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#110
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you're an idiot if you're asking for a torrent, you can either pay five dollars (probably spend more on one meal) or just wait one more day

you're an idiot if you're asking for a torrent, you can either pay five dollars (probably spend more on one meal) or just wait one more day
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#111
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blueberrymuffinyou're an idiot if you're asking for a torrent, you can either pay five dollars (probably spend more on one meal) or just wait one more day

i paid for it

i am currently downloading it

i have 2+ hours left

i want it faster

[quote=blueberrymuffin]you're an idiot if you're asking for a torrent, you can either pay five dollars (probably spend more on one meal) or just wait one more day[/quote]

i paid for it

i am currently downloading it

i have 2+ hours left

i want it faster
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#112
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It's really cool that this was made, and it turned out pretty slick. A few things:

It's called America vs. Europe, but is super limited in regards to European coverage. All the Americans talked and talked about playing against the Euros but you hardly see any of it, and the match between Epsilon and LG is voiceover. The storyline/message goes a little all over the place because of it.

Somebody mentioned camera work- when you're doing interviews, you want depth in the background. Almost every interview was with the BG flat on, which makes everything else flat. Shoot with depth. Also noticed was how every interview was different (interviewer, no interviewer, looking straight on, looking off camera). I'm sure you know now to figure out the style and go. Also, it helps to tell interviewees first thing that the doc won't feature the interviewer's voice, so you don't have to keep correcting them.

I think the flip flopping on the style choices kind of hurt it a little- sometimes you went really straight TF2 style, and then others weren't.

The explanation of how the game works was great, but I think it should have gone just a tad deeper. Near the end the VO and players start talking about uber drops and people getting really excited whenever Brad died, and to somebody with no knowledge of the game they would spend that entire time wondering what ubers are and why medics are so important. A quick breakdown of each class would have helped.

I saw how you guys dealt with a lot of bad situations due to a small crew and made it work (and you did a great job at it), but the ending was extremely anti-climactic. I'm not sure why you decided to go voiceover and, at that, have it be essentially "LG won a round. Then Mixup did. Then LG did." I figured you were skipping over most of the matches in the beginning so you could get spend more time on the finals. The finals had some ridiculous plays that should have been highlighted. You did a little bit with Gravel Pit, but hearing from a voiceover that Mixup won was not good.

I hope more content like this doc gets made in the future, there isn't a whole lot of that out there for any e-sport. Next time though, less on the cutesy graphics and more on the nitty gritty. This all probably sounds a little harsh when you read it on a forum and I don't want to discourage anything getting made, so I hope you take it all in some positive manner.

It's really cool that this was made, and it turned out pretty slick. A few things:

It's called America vs. Europe, but is super limited in regards to European coverage. All the Americans talked and talked about playing against the Euros but you hardly see any of it, and the match between Epsilon and LG is voiceover. The storyline/message goes a little all over the place because of it.

Somebody mentioned camera work- when you're doing interviews, you want depth in the background. Almost every interview was with the BG flat on, which makes everything else flat. Shoot with depth. Also noticed was how every interview was different (interviewer, no interviewer, looking straight on, looking off camera). I'm sure you know now to figure out the style and go. Also, it helps to tell interviewees first thing that the doc won't feature the interviewer's voice, so you don't have to keep correcting them.

I think the flip flopping on the style choices kind of hurt it a little- sometimes you went really straight TF2 style, and then others weren't.

The explanation of how the game works was great, but I think it should have gone just a tad deeper. Near the end the VO and players start talking about uber drops and people getting really excited whenever Brad died, and to somebody with no knowledge of the game they would spend that entire time wondering what ubers are and why medics are so important. A quick breakdown of each class would have helped.

I saw how you guys dealt with a lot of bad situations due to a small crew and made it work (and you did a great job at it), but the ending was extremely anti-climactic. I'm not sure why you decided to go voiceover and, at that, have it be essentially "LG won a round. Then Mixup did. Then LG did." I figured you were skipping over most of the matches in the beginning so you could get spend more time on the finals. The finals had some ridiculous plays that should have been highlighted. You did a little bit with Gravel Pit, but hearing from a voiceover that Mixup won was not good.

I hope more content like this doc gets made in the future, there isn't a whole lot of that out there for any e-sport. Next time though, less on the cutesy graphics and more on the nitty gritty. This all probably sounds a little harsh when you read it on a forum and I don't want to discourage anything getting made, so I hope you take it all in some positive manner.
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#113
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haha i remember when everyone in chat got so mad when enigma went heavy on spire

haha i remember when everyone in chat got so mad when enigma went heavy on spire
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#114
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I'm confused here, wasn't it supposed to come out only at 10 of august 9th, because I received an email saying it was available at like 5 am of friday

I'm confused here, wasn't it supposed to come out only at 10 of august 9th, because I received an email saying it was available at like 5 am of friday
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#115
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IT'S JUST FANTASTIC ISN'T IT

IT'S JUST FANTASTIC ISN'T IT
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#116
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i've downloaded the 1080p 50fps video multiple times and it freezes at this frame every time:
http://imgur.com/zOr0iqh
is there a reason to that

i've downloaded the 1080p 50fps video multiple times and it freezes at this frame every time:
http://imgur.com/zOr0iqh
is there a reason to that
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#117
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Wasn't worth a year wait imo

Wasn't worth a year wait imo
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#118
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MarxistTo my understanding what actually happened was this:

Extv asked for donations to send the teams to i46, however, it looked like donations were only going to be enough for 1 team to go rather than 2. So Salamancer himself more or less completely funded the endeavor with his own personal money.

At which point I believe the money that was donated was transferred to Salamancer in an effort to repay him for his incredible generosity, but I doubt he was every actually repaid in full.

I heard LG gave Sal their prize money, and eXtine (i think) also stated that Sal was repaid already.

[quote=Marxist]To my understanding what actually happened was this:

Extv asked for donations to send the teams to i46, however, it looked like donations were only going to be enough for 1 team to go rather than 2. So Salamancer himself more or less completely funded the endeavor with his own personal money.

At which point I believe the money that was donated was transferred to Salamancer in an effort to repay him for his incredible generosity, but I doubt he was every actually repaid in full.[/quote]
I heard LG gave Sal their prize money, and eXtine (i think) also stated that Sal was repaid already.
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#119
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Mangachui've downloaded the 1080p 50fps video multiple times and it freezes at this frame every time:
http://imgur.com/zOr0iqh
is there a reason to that

Could you be using VLC 2.07 by any chance ? I've had a slight problem with that too.

The Media Player Classic Home Cinema has no such problems. All on Windows 7x64 here.

[quote=Mangachu]i've downloaded the 1080p 50fps video multiple times and it freezes at this frame every time:
http://imgur.com/zOr0iqh
is there a reason to that[/quote]

Could you be using VLC 2.07 by any chance ? I've had a slight problem with that too.

The Media Player Classic Home Cinema has no such problems. All on Windows 7x64 here.
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#120
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I think technically, the video was very well done. However, I think the direction was lacking as I was never really gripped by the video.

I think technically, the video was very well done. However, I think the direction was lacking as I was never really gripped by the video.
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