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Petition To Ban Cheaters From Posting On TFTV
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#1
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like if someone has an active ban on ETF2L/RGL/whatever and an admin knows about it can u just ban their account until their league ban expires u dont gotta go out of ur way to acquire league ban lists

all in agreement say "shut the fuck up feno"

like if someone has an active ban on ETF2L/RGL/whatever and an admin knows about it can u just ban their account until their league ban expires u dont gotta go out of ur way to acquire league ban lists

all in agreement say "shut the fuck up feno"
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#2
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Just ban fenomeno

Just ban fenomeno
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#3
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Y'all tryna silence free speech now smh, fascists

Also bro grapejuice this some clout chasing shit ngl, thought you were always a neutral character in most things, but ye ban me, Ive got the shit posting out my system for a year

Y'all tryna silence free speech now smh, fascists

Also bro grapejuice this some clout chasing shit ngl, thought you were always a neutral character in most things, but ye ban me, Ive got the shit posting out my system for a year
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#4
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fenomenofascists
[quote=fenomeno]fascists[/quote]
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#5
28 Frags +

I have not spoken to the other moderators before making this post, I do not speak on behalf of the website or its staff

We've talked about mirroring bans in the past, but much of the cheater threads were in the lock-happy moderating stage, so it sorta got forgotten about.

Personally- I am all for mirroring permanent bans, because odds are good that those permanently removed from competitive tf2 have also then lost the privilege to participate in any discussion regarding the subject. However, this forum has historically been pretty lax with what kind of posts are allowed. Generally, the approach is to "let downfrags do the talking."

If enough people want to mirror cheating bans/league bans I'm sure the moderation team is open to it.

[size=16][b]I have not spoken to the other moderators before making this post, I do not speak on behalf of the website or its staff[/b][/size]

We've talked about mirroring bans in the past, but much of the cheater threads were in the lock-happy moderating stage, so it sorta got forgotten about.

Personally- I am all for mirroring permanent bans, because odds are good that those permanently removed from competitive tf2 have also then lost the privilege to participate in any discussion regarding the subject. However, this forum has historically been pretty lax with what kind of posts are allowed. Generally, the approach is to "let downfrags do the talking."

If enough people want to mirror cheating bans/league bans I'm sure the moderation team is open to it.
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#6
58 Frags +

Feno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence

Feno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence
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#7
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fenomenothought you were always a neutral character in most things

yeah. most things.

[quote=fenomeno]thought you were always a neutral character in [b]most things[/b][/quote]
yeah. most things.
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#8
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alfaFeno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence

Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little

[quote=alfa]Feno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence[/quote]

Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little
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#9
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fenomenoWork

shut up neet

[quote=fenomeno]Work[/quote]

shut up neet
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#10
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just ignore him lol why does he need to be banned

just ignore him lol why does he need to be banned
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#11
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fenomenoalfaFeno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence
Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little

Is this how people talk nowadays?

Hurts my boomer eyes.

[quote=fenomeno][quote=alfa]Feno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence[/quote]

Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little[/quote]

Is this how people talk nowadays?

Hurts my boomer eyes.
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#12
28 Frags +

remember when alfa got banned and was still able to post in the thread to explain/defend himself? in a community this small the downsides will always outweigh the upsides of universal rules like this. if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say that

remember when alfa got banned and was still able to post in the thread to explain/defend himself? in a community this small the downsides will always outweigh the upsides of universal rules like this. if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say that
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#13
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zx37 if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say that

mxr was also an annoying poster

they were both cheaters

coincidence? eh, maybe. but ive lost too many braincells to dumb cheaters on this website and i dont want to lose any more

[quote=zx37] if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say that[/quote]mxr was also an annoying poster

they were both cheaters

coincidence? eh, maybe. but ive lost too many braincells to dumb cheaters on this website and i dont want to lose any more
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#14
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fenos posts r hilarious, and outside of funny lfts and the main thread, for the past month nothing else on this site was worth looking at. U dont like his posts? Just close ur eyes Lol.

fenos posts r hilarious, and outside of funny lfts and the main thread, for the past month nothing else on this site was worth looking at. U dont like his posts? Just close ur eyes Lol.
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#15
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Need that TFTV sanitizer script/addon to automatically mirror bans and/or manually hide whoever's shit you're tired of reading. Maybe even a function to tag alts.

That way we can keep everyone unbanned for comedic purposes, but anyone who wants to protect their braincells can do so, even selectively.

Need that TFTV sanitizer script/addon to automatically mirror bans and/or manually hide whoever's shit you're tired of reading. Maybe even a function to tag alts.

That way we can keep everyone unbanned for comedic purposes, but anyone who wants to protect their braincells can do so, even selectively.
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#16
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GrapeJuiceIIIzx37 if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say thatmxr was also an annoying poster

they were both cheaters

coincidence? eh, maybe. but ive lost too many braincells to dumb cheaters on this website and i dont want to lose any more

log off then u bitch

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=zx37] if u want feno banned cos he’s an annoying poster just say that[/quote]mxr was also an annoying poster

they were both cheaters

coincidence? eh, maybe. but ive lost too many braincells to dumb cheaters on this website and i dont want to lose any more[/quote]

log off then u bitch
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#17
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next step: ban everyone who got trade ban on steam? like we dont want to deal with scammers here!!!

next step: ban everyone who got trade ban on steam? like we dont want to deal with scammers here!!!
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#18
Process/Gullywash Refresh
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fooqpnext step: ban everyone who got trade ban on steam? like we dont want to deal with scammers here!!!

actually sounds great, don't want any annoying trader main scammers posting here

[quote=fooqp]next step: ban everyone who got trade ban on steam? like we dont want to deal with scammers here!!![/quote]
actually sounds great, don't want any annoying trader main scammers posting here
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#19
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StylaxfenomenoalfaFeno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence
Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little

Is this how people talk nowadays?

Hurts my boomer eyes.

is that guy not a boomer? this guy was getting this same constant hate before i even start playing people were chatting shit even when he was apparently not playing (?)

[quote=Stylax][quote=fenomeno][quote=alfa]Feno why are you going schizo now after months of radio silence[/quote]

Work is boring as hell & I was deadass trolling in my first post at first but some mfs made it personal and now we are here. I'm literally only posting in one thread too, like close ur eyes or don't look at that thread if you're that bothered, but yea I guess I could chill a little[/quote]

Is this how people talk nowadays?

Hurts my boomer eyes.[/quote]


is that guy not a boomer? this guy was getting this same constant hate before i even start playing people were chatting shit even when he was apparently not playing (?)
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#20
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not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.

not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.
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#21
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i only come to tf.tv to see the hot tea in the threads. if you ban controversial people what is the point of this?

i only come to tf.tv to see the hot tea in the threads. if you ban controversial people what is the point of this?
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#22
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tftv is nothing without petty drama and we dont even have the open thread anymore

tftv is nothing without petty drama and we dont even have the open thread anymore
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#23
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Opti_not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.

mirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!" We ban them from posting on a forum of a game where they cheated I think that's very justifiable, every other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.

Does their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion, should they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.

[quote=Opti_]not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.[/quote]

mirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!" We ban them from posting on a forum of a game where they cheated I think that's very justifiable, every other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.

Does their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion, should they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.
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#24
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DannyHollowmirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!"

A cheater isn't necessarily undesirable.
Moreover, what is undesirable ? I could make a point that you (or anyone really) are undesirable. You would then get banned.

DannyHollowevery other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.

Very relatable to what I said in my post. "cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need". So they do get banned for acting weird on the forums, not directly because they cheated.

DannyHollowDoes their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion,

This is wrong, you do not become irrelevant just because you cheated.
This is also dangerous because if you think irrelevant people shouldn't be posting then a bar could be set where people beneath open ( low ? mid ?) level aren't allowed to answer certain posts.

DannyHollowshould they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.

Fair enough, but if you're following this path I'm sure you can absolutely see how dangerous it can become. Any admin could ban anyone on the premises that he simply doesn't fancy that guy.

[quote=DannyHollow]
mirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!" [/quote]
A cheater isn't necessarily undesirable.
Moreover, what is undesirable ? I could make a point that you (or anyone really) are undesirable. You would then get banned.

[quote=DannyHollow]
every other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.
[/quote]
Very relatable to what I said in my post. "cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need". So they do get banned for acting weird on the forums, not directly because they cheated.

[quote=DannyHollow]
Does their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion,[/quote]
This is wrong, you do not become irrelevant just because you cheated.
This is also dangerous because if you think irrelevant people shouldn't be posting then a bar could be set where people beneath open ( low ? mid ?) level aren't allowed to answer certain posts.


[quote=DannyHollow]
should they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.[/quote]
Fair enough, but if you're following this path I'm sure you can absolutely see how dangerous it can become. Any admin could ban anyone on the premises that he simply doesn't fancy that guy.
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#25
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Lol

Lol
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#26
-28 Frags +

It's crazy how a few people like to speak for what the whole community likes/dislikes. The arrogance of some of you, and its funny cause yall try to hide your arrogance with a guise of this weird morality gatekeeping

At least Im upfront with my arrogance, yall some fake hoes

On a more concerning point, imagine living in a society where mob rule decides your fate. A lot of us wouldve been killed by the smallest of transgressions

Thats what carter and grapejuice are advocating for, they are either mad or working for the interest of RGL

Thank god there is rule of law on this site, god bless the liberty I have just from signing up on this website.

Say no to RGLs tyranny bleeding over to this site

It's crazy how a few people like to speak for what the whole community likes/dislikes. The arrogance of some of you, and its funny cause yall try to hide your arrogance with a guise of this weird morality gatekeeping

At least Im upfront with my arrogance, yall some fake hoes

On a more concerning point, imagine living in a society where mob rule decides your fate. A lot of us wouldve been killed by the smallest of transgressions

Thats what carter and grapejuice are advocating for, they are either mad or working for the interest of RGL

Thank god there is rule of law on this site, god bless the liberty I have just from signing up on this website.

Say no to RGLs tyranny bleeding over to this site
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#27
3 Frags +

does anyone know if nursey is banned from posting? would clear things up a little

does anyone know if nursey is banned from posting? would clear things up a little
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#28
Process/Gullywash Refresh
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fenomenoIt's crazy how a few people like to speak for what the whole community likes/dislikes. The arrogance of some of you, and its funny cause yall try to hide your arrogance with a guise of this weird morality gatekeeping

At least Im upfront with my arrogance, yall some fake hoes

On a more concerning point, imagine living in a society where mob rule decides your fate. A lot of us wouldve been killed by the smallest of transgressions

Thats what carter and grapejuice are advocating for, they are either mad or working for the interest of RGL

Thank god there is rule of law on this site, god bless the liberty I have just from signing up on this website.

Say no to RGLs tyranny bleeding over to this site

https://www.geekgirlauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/joaquin-phoenix-joker-movie-1174x640.jpg

[quote=fenomeno]It's crazy how a few people like to speak for what the whole community likes/dislikes. The arrogance of some of you, and its funny cause yall try to hide your arrogance with a guise of this weird morality gatekeeping

At least Im upfront with my arrogance, yall some fake hoes

On a more concerning point, imagine living in a society where mob rule decides your fate. A lot of us wouldve been killed by the smallest of transgressions

Thats what carter and grapejuice are advocating for, they are either mad or working for the interest of RGL

Thank god there is rule of law on this site, god bless the liberty I have just from signing up on this website.

Say no to RGLs tyranny bleeding over to this site[/quote]
[img]https://www.geekgirlauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/joaquin-phoenix-joker-movie-1174x640.jpg[/img]
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#29
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fenomeno

i just hate cheaters you dumb egotistical rat fuck. there is no Higher Power at play here. nobody respected you before, i don't know why you think you're owed some kind of respect now

[quote=fenomeno][/quote]

i just hate cheaters you dumb egotistical rat fuck. there is no Higher Power at play here. nobody respected you before, i don't know why you think you're owed some kind of respect now
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#30
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DannyHollowOpti_not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.

mirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!" We ban them from posting on a forum of a game where they cheated I think that's very justifiable, every other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.

Does their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion, should they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.

there are plenty of people on this forum who exist with steam vac ban just fine

[quote=DannyHollow][quote=Opti_]not defending feno/mxr or any cheater on their cheating behavior but why in the world would you ban them from posting on a forum because they cheated ?
By cheating, did they break any forum rules ? (again, by cheating. I am not asking whether or not fenomeno broke a forum rule, I am asking if he broke a forum rule by cheating)
By cheating, does their opinion become automatically irrelevant on 100% of the topics that can be discussed on the forums and therefore should they be removed the right to post on TFTV ?

The cheating part and the shit posting part are two completely different things.[/quote]

mirrorbans are meant to keep undesirable people off the community, instead of having to wait "well they haven't broken a rule here!" We ban them from posting on a forum of a game where they cheated I think that's very justifiable, every other game I've seen that has an active forum bans their cheaters as well cuz most of what they do is be salty about being banned and get the attention that they need.

Does their opinion become irrelevant for being a cheater? Yes lmao if they're commenting on anything competitive related their opinion is absolutely irrelevant since 1. They cannot play 2. They cheated, it's like wondering if the opinion of a waller in csgo is relevant in map design, it makes zero sense and its a completely irrelevant opinion, should they be removed to the right to post on TFTV? yeah? this place isn't absolutely public or government ran, there's moderation and owners to this place so they have all the right to remove someone if they don't want them.[/quote]

there are plenty of people on this forum who exist with steam vac ban just fine
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