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Warning about Nursey trying to come back
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#61
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please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special

please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special
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#62
18 Frags +

lol what is this post ^

lol what is this post ^
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#63
6 Frags +

its what i heard through the grapevine and honestly doesnt seem too far-fetched to me given nurseys persona and behaviour

its what i heard through the grapevine and honestly doesnt seem too far-fetched to me given nurseys persona and behaviour
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#64
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torrit3please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special

call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to MULTIPLE TIMES) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want

[quote=torrit3]please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special[/quote]

call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to [b]MULTIPLE TIMES[/b]) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want
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#65
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DRIFTAhttps://i.gyazo.com/39483e85ff7db348476e9d458bb88ac9.png
cringe!

https://i.imgur.com/yQbQ9wu.jpeg

[quote=DRIFTA][img]https://i.gyazo.com/39483e85ff7db348476e9d458bb88ac9.png[/img]
cringe![/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/yQbQ9wu.jpeg[/img]
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#66
49 Frags +
row_torrit3please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special
call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to MULTIPLE TIMES) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want

thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.

[quote=row_][quote=torrit3]please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special[/quote]

call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to [b]MULTIPLE TIMES[/b]) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want[/quote]
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.
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#67
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dishsoaprow_torrit3please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special
call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to MULTIPLE TIMES) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.

I'm not respecting pedos in any way, shape or form. I don't care what he wants to be called.

[quote=dishsoap][quote=row_][quote=torrit3]please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special[/quote]

call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to [b]MULTIPLE TIMES[/b]) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want[/quote]
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.[/quote]
I'm not respecting pedos in any way, shape or form. I don't care what he wants to be called.
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#68
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torrit3please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special

bruh what? so they're not actually trans and are just saying it for attention? I mean my expectations were already low, since it's a pedo, but jesus christ man.

is there a clip of that or smth?

[quote=torrit3]please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special[/quote]

bruh what? so they're not actually trans and are just saying it for attention? I mean my expectations were already low, since it's a pedo, but jesus christ man.

is there a clip of that or smth?
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#69
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dishsoapthats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.

I think what they did is disgusting and from my point of view inhuman, and I believe they shouldn't ever be allowed to play this game again, or be near anyone vulnerable that they could abuse, manipulate or harm again.

I honestly believe that the lengths to which they have gone to perpetrate and then deny what they've done, and to delude themselves into believing that what has happened as a result of it is the fault of others show that there's no way they're ever going to show real remorse for what they did. That's why I said what i did.

That all being said, I was wrong to dehumanise them and I understand it can be a slippery slope.
However foully they acted it was human, but without remorse or regret as far as I can see.

[quote=dishsoap]
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.[/quote]

I think what they did is disgusting and from my point of view inhuman, and I believe they shouldn't ever be allowed to play this game again, or be near anyone vulnerable that they could abuse, manipulate or harm again.

I honestly believe that the lengths to which they have gone to perpetrate and then deny what they've done, and to delude themselves into believing that what has happened as a result of it is the fault of others show that there's no way they're ever going to show real remorse for what they did. That's why I said what i did.

That all being said, I was wrong to dehumanise them and I understand it can be a slippery slope.
However foully they acted it was human, but without remorse or regret as far as I can see.
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#70
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dishsoaprow_torrit3please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special
call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to MULTIPLE TIMES) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.

Pedophils are not human and shouldn't be treated as one

[quote=dishsoap][quote=row_][quote=torrit3]please dont call nursey a she when she afaik they admitted that theyre only saying that theyre trans because they like the attention and people calling them a girl makes them feel special[/quote]

call them what u like
surely wanting to (and actively attempting to [b]MULTIPLE TIMES[/b]) fuck people that are underage means u forfeit any right to be called what you want[/quote]
thats a slippery slope dude, it gives any sort of bigot the right to dehumanize any sort of minority if theyve caused any sort of mistake (not to say that this shits just a mistake nursey is straight up vile) as long as the crime seems heinous enough in the eyes of the bigot. murders are human too, despite it being difficult to swallow that fact.

nursey is a straight up disturbing individual to say the least, but theyre still human. unfortunately.[/quote]

Pedophils are not human and shouldn't be treated as one
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#71
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what exactly does it mean to you guys to be "actually trans" or not

why does there have to be a debate about what pronoun to use to refer to somebody who sends pictures of his cock to kids

what exactly does it mean to you guys to be "actually trans" or not

why does there have to be a debate about what pronoun to use to refer to somebody who sends pictures of his cock to kids
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#72
41 Frags +

Derailed thread

Derailed thread
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#73
42 Frags +

yeah i didnt mean to derail but just to recap that you shouldnt let someones very destructive acts be as a reason to fuel bigotry. you can be of the opinion that people who commit such atrocities are inhuman for doing them (in which they are inhuman acts), but that doesnt excuse actual dehumanization. shitty people are people whether you like it or not.

lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?

yeah i didnt mean to derail but just to recap that you shouldnt let someones very destructive acts be as a reason to fuel bigotry. you can be of the opinion that people who commit such atrocities are inhuman for doing them (in which they are inhuman acts), but that doesnt excuse actual dehumanization. shitty people are people whether you like it or not.

lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?
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#74
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dishsoapyeah i didnt mean to derail but just to recap that you shouldnt let someones very destructive acts as a reason to fuel bigotry. you can be of the opinion that people who commit such atrocities are inhuman for doing them (in which they are inhuman acts), but that doesnt excuse actual dehumanization. shitty people are people whether you like it or not.

lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?

Most likely the best the community can do is just inform the people who are playing with them and hope they decide 2 not play with the banned player.

Edit/ also don't cut the kid who happened 2 be playing with nurcey, wtf.

[quote=dishsoap]yeah i didnt mean to derail but just to recap that you shouldnt let someones very destructive acts as a reason to fuel bigotry. you can be of the opinion that people who commit such atrocities are inhuman for doing them (in which they are inhuman acts), but that doesnt excuse actual dehumanization. shitty people are people whether you like it or not.

lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?[/quote]

Most likely the best the community can do is just inform the people who are playing with them and hope they decide 2 not play with the banned player.

Edit/ also don't cut the kid who happened 2 be playing with nurcey, wtf.
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#75
27 Frags +

if u ring a pedophile on a team with literal children on it u should probably reconsider how important winning a videogame is

if u ring a pedophile on a team with literal children on it u should probably reconsider how important winning a videogame is
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#76
22 Frags +

this nonce is fakenicking while mercing in pcw's? i cba

this nonce is fakenicking while mercing in pcw's? i cba
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#77
14 Frags +
dishsoaplets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?

flag their steamIDs, global ban from serveme servers for people openly known to engage in child predation, I'm sure that would work, and so long as it was a measure ONLY used against people who use the community as a place to do illegal shit I think it'd be a good idea

[quote=dishsoap]lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?[/quote]
flag their steamIDs, global ban from serveme servers for people openly known to engage in child predation, I'm sure that would work, and so long as it was a measure ONLY used against people who use the community as a place to do illegal shit I think it'd be a good idea
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#78
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dishsoaplets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?

I'll just play devil's advocate here: what if there's nothing more we can do than what's been done?

Quick comparison: Let's say a YouTuber is outed as being a pedophile. It's easy to shun him out of the YouTube community because he knows his community will never be the same and that uploading more videos will result in more people learning he's a pedophile from comments.

However, it's not as easy with a video game. Nursey is outed as a pedophile. They get banned from RGL, but still greatly enjoy playing Team Fortress 2 and especially 6s as a gamemode. Nursey is banned from most PUG groups, leagues, and community servers. TF2's in-game competitive mode is dead. However, new players are coming to TF2 all the time which means not everyone knows who Nursey is. Which seems more likely?

  1. Nursey quits 6s
  2. Nursey finds other avenues where they aren't banned to play 6s (ex. PUG scrims with friends)
  3. Nursey tries to get themselves unbanned relentlessly even though their reputation is forever tarnished

If someone has a love for a video game but is excommunicated by the community, they're going to try and find a way to play the video game without rejoining the community. If anything, making posts like these will only reinforce their beliefs the community is toxic, cause harm for innocent people around them, or cause people to believe Nursey is in the right. As the OP said, the kid is 14 years old. Don't you think getting him cut from a team, banned from a server, and blocked by two people is just going to reaffirm his belief that their friend/acquaintance is right about the community?

I think the only solution here is to ban Nursey from any server we can like Adnurak suggested. Even if the OP's intent had nothing to do with the innocent person getting cut, creating threads like this just seem to cause more problems than they're worth. Nursey did terrible things and should be remembered for doing such, but there's a point where going too far just gives them the ability to weaponize what we say and do.

TL;DR: Ban them everywhere we can, don't go further than that. More trouble than it's worth.

[quote=dishsoap]lets get back on topic: how do we keep pedophiles out once we've outed them?[/quote]

I'll just play devil's advocate here: what if there's nothing more we can do than what's been done?

Quick comparison: Let's say a YouTuber is outed as being a pedophile. It's easy to shun him out of the YouTube community because he knows his community will never be the same and that uploading more videos will result in more people learning he's a pedophile from comments.

However, it's not as easy with a video game. Nursey is outed as a pedophile. They get banned from RGL, but still greatly enjoy playing Team Fortress 2 and especially 6s as a gamemode. Nursey is banned from most PUG groups, leagues, and community servers. TF2's in-game competitive mode is dead. However, new players are coming to TF2 all the time which means not everyone knows who Nursey is. Which seems more likely?
[olist]
[*] Nursey quits 6s
[*] Nursey finds other avenues where they aren't banned to play 6s (ex. PUG scrims with friends)
[*] Nursey tries to get themselves unbanned relentlessly even though their reputation is forever tarnished
[/olist]

If someone has a love for a video game but is excommunicated by the community, they're going to try and find a way to play the video game without rejoining the community. If anything, making posts like these will only [url=https://twitter.com/NURBEYYY/status/1385292813349400580]reinforce their beliefs the community is toxic[/url], [url=https://i.imgur.com/YHyHifQ.png]cause harm for innocent people around them[/url], or cause people to believe Nursey is in the right. As the OP said, the kid is 14 years old. Don't you think getting him cut from a team, banned from a server, and blocked by two people is just going to reaffirm his belief that their friend/acquaintance is right about the community?

I think the only solution here is to ban Nursey from any server we can like Adnurak suggested. Even if the OP's intent had nothing to do with the innocent person getting cut, creating threads like this just seem to cause more problems than they're worth. Nursey did terrible things and should be remembered for doing such, but there's a point where going too far just gives them the ability to weaponize what we say and do.

TL;DR: Ban them everywhere we can, don't go further than that. [url=https://i.imgur.com/YHyHifQ.png]More trouble than it's worth.[/url]
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#79
58 Frags +

This is what broking has been up to

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#80
47 Frags +

I'll just drop here a quick thing but as a Trans person and someone that was victim of pedos as a kid. I really despise Nursey, she destroyed our reputation for the foreseeable future even thought nobody supports what she did, I legit can't count the amount of time someone as a means to insult me, I got called "Nursey" or a pedophile.
Thanks to this jackass TF2 players have this association in their head that is super disgusting !
so yeah don't let her come back and make her be forgotten !

I'll just drop here a quick thing but as a Trans person and someone that was victim of pedos as a kid. I really despise Nursey, she destroyed our reputation for the foreseeable future even thought nobody supports what she did, I legit can't count the amount of time someone as a means to insult me, I got called "Nursey" or a pedophile.
Thanks to this jackass TF2 players have this association in their head that is super disgusting !
so yeah don't let her come back and make her be forgotten !
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#81
TFNew
37 Frags +
MofuI'll just drop here a quick thing but as a Trans person and someone that was victim of pedos as a kid. I really despise Nursey, she destroyed our reputation for the foreseeable future even thought nobody supports what she did, I legit can't count the amount of time someone as a means to insult me, I got called "Nursey" or a pedophile.
Thanks to this jackass TF2 players have this association in their head that is super disgusting !
so yeah don't let her come back and make her be forgotten !

predators are monsters ofc but i think saying nursey is responsible for "ruining the reputation of trans people" takes responsibility away from the people actually being transphobic. its really not hard to recognise that a trans person being a pedo isnt an excuse to be transphobic and transphobia is objectively wrong no matter who its directed towards.

[quote=Mofu]I'll just drop here a quick thing but as a Trans person and someone that was victim of pedos as a kid. I really despise Nursey, she destroyed our reputation for the foreseeable future even thought nobody supports what she did, I legit can't count the amount of time someone as a means to insult me, I got called "Nursey" or a pedophile.
Thanks to this jackass TF2 players have this association in their head that is super disgusting !
so yeah don't let her come back and make her be forgotten ![/quote]
predators are monsters ofc but i think saying nursey is responsible for "ruining the reputation of trans people" takes responsibility away from the people actually being transphobic. its really not hard to recognise that a trans person being a pedo isnt an excuse to be transphobic and transphobia is objectively wrong no matter who its directed towards.
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#82
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#83
26 Frags +
cKrowall pedos should be hung

hanged* :)

[quote=cKrow]all pedos should be hung[/quote]
hanged* :)
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#84
6 Frags +

Pedophile's need to be barred from the internet as a whole
Be labelled as mentally-unstable and get therapy, whilst being under watch
How is an offender like nursey allowed to play video games with kids with 0 repercussions?
Authorities are not doing their job...

Pedophile's need to be barred from the internet as a whole
Be labelled as mentally-unstable and get therapy, whilst being under watch
How is an offender like nursey allowed to play video games with kids with 0 repercussions?
Authorities are not doing their job...
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#85
14 Frags +

Hey, I know that this isn't quite relevant but it occurs to me that Harbleu's named was dropped a bunch in the original scandal and was wondering if there were any evidence against him?

Hey, I know that this isn't quite relevant but it occurs to me that Harbleu's named was dropped a bunch in the original scandal and was wondering if there were any evidence against him?
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#86
11 Frags +

how to be a productive and useful member of society (to those that need it:)

1. don't fuck kids

how to be a productive and useful member of society (to those that need it:)

1. don't fuck kids
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#87
24 Frags +
RahmedAuthorities are not doing their job...

Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?

[quote=Rahmed]Authorities are not doing their job...[/quote]

Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?
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#88
-8 Frags +
SentiRahmedAuthorities are not doing their job...
Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?

Honestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough

[quote=Senti][quote=Rahmed]Authorities are not doing their job...[/quote]

Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?[/quote]

Honestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough
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#89
32 Frags +
RahmedSentiRahmedAuthorities are not doing their job...
Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?

Honestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough

Why would league admins have any more responsibility to report it to the authorities compared to you, me, or literally anyone that knows about it? They run a video game league not "to catch a predator" lol

[quote=Rahmed][quote=Senti][quote=Rahmed]Authorities are not doing their job...[/quote]

Probably because no one reported nursey to the authorities?[/quote]

Honestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough[/quote]

Why would league admins have any more responsibility to report it to the authorities compared to you, me, or literally anyone that knows about it? They run a video game league not "to catch a predator" lol
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#90
6 Frags +
RahmedHonestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility

[quote=Rahmed]
Honestly, with something so heinous, the RGL admins or any TF2 league admins should have a responsibility to bring justice to this individual; being complicit in having them removed from the league is not enough[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
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