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mxr/frkshw cheating in MGE (with proof)
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#31
44 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/6I5uNHY.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/6I5uNHY.png[/img]
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#32
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mxrdownfrag me

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RewardingSnappyElephant-size_restricted.gif

[quote=mxr]downfrag me [/quote]
[img]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RewardingSnappyElephant-size_restricted.gif[/img]
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#33
33 Frags +

you guys are grasping at straws trying to ban me off of shit that can't even be considered evidence. ur using stv demos and a recording of someone spectating me playing scout on mge as proof. I've been playing scout on mge for literally years and people have definitely watched me, and yet no one says anything until someone says "cheater" on tftv. anyone who's done like 5 minutes of research knows that stv and spectating is a very unreliable way to determine if my crosshair movement shows proof of aimbot. And combined with me using a high sens its not gonna look like how it would on my screen or in a POV demo. I guarantee if u didn't know who i was and invested the same amount of time into trying to find proof on me as someone else its gonna look the same. If you want me banned so bad then keep reporting me and ask admins to ask for more of my pov demos and I'll gladly send them. RGL admins and the anticheat staff requested some and I sent them 7 recent POV demos more than a week ago, and u guys are still here jerking eachother off trying to prove im a cheater, get a life bruh... constantly cringe posting on tftv hoping that if u do it enough will get me banned is a waste of ur time and everybody else's. Harassing and shit talking my teammates to get them to leave and to kill my team is also just cringe. its rly just sad. I've never been banned on ESEA UGC or RGL and its still the same handful of people who are so adamant that I am cheating.

downfrag me all u want im not wrong

you guys are grasping at straws trying to ban me off of shit that can't even be considered evidence. ur using stv demos and a recording of someone spectating me playing scout on mge as proof. I've been playing scout on mge for literally years and people have definitely watched me, and yet no one says anything until someone says "cheater" on tftv. anyone who's done like 5 minutes of research knows that stv and spectating is a very unreliable way to determine if my crosshair movement shows proof of aimbot. And combined with me using a high sens its not gonna look like how it would on my screen or in a POV demo. I guarantee if u didn't know who i was and invested the same amount of time into trying to find proof on me as someone else its gonna look the same. If you want me banned so bad then keep reporting me and ask admins to ask for more of my pov demos and I'll gladly send them. RGL admins and the anticheat staff requested some and I sent them 7 recent POV demos more than a week ago, and u guys are still here jerking eachother off trying to prove im a cheater, get a life bruh... constantly cringe posting on tftv hoping that if u do it enough will get me banned is a waste of ur time and everybody else's. Harassing and shit talking my teammates to get them to leave and to kill my team is also just cringe. its rly just sad. I've never been banned on ESEA UGC or RGL and its still the same handful of people who are so adamant that I am cheating.

downfrag me all u want im not wrong
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#34
22 Frags +
mxrsource? u dont have one.

i spent close to 30 hours watching Rewind 2 STVs to find ticks for a frag movie: https://pastebin.com/KupVAHb9

i also watch lots of frag movies that use STV demos
i also watch lots of TF2RJWeekly videos that also use STV demos.
i make frag movies using both POV and STV demos.

silence cheater.

[quote=mxr]source? u dont have one.[/quote]

i spent close to 30 hours watching Rewind 2 STVs to find ticks for a frag movie: https://pastebin.com/KupVAHb9

i also watch lots of frag movies that use STV demos
i also watch lots of TF2RJWeekly videos that also use STV demos.
i make frag movies using both POV and STV demos.

silence cheater.
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#35
-47 Frags +
GrapeJuiceIIImxrsource? u dont have one.
i spent close to 30 hours watching Rewind 2 STVs to find ticks for a frag movie: https://pastebin.com/KupVAHb9

i also watch lots of frag movies that use STV demos
i also watch lots of TF2RJWeekly videos that also use STV demos.
i make frag movies using both POV and STV demos.

silence cheater.

then why r u still wrong...

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=mxr]source? u dont have one.[/quote]

i spent close to 30 hours watching Rewind 2 STVs to find ticks for a frag movie: https://pastebin.com/KupVAHb9

i also watch lots of frag movies that use STV demos
i also watch lots of TF2RJWeekly videos that also use STV demos.
i make frag movies using both POV and STV demos.

silence cheater.[/quote]

then why r u still wrong...
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#36
6 Frags +
mxrsource? u dont have one.

i thought u said sourcetv doesnt count which is it bro

[quote=mxr]source? u dont have one.[/quote]
i thought u said sourcetv doesnt count which is it bro
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#37
0 Frags +

lol

lol
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#38
63 Frags +

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecf_pANXsAAZgzD.jpg

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecf_pANXsAAZgzD.jpg[/img]
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#39
-19 Frags +

guys how can he be cheating
i beat him in mge

guys how can he be cheating
i beat him in mge
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#40
6 Frags +

Not sure if this is really as blatant as everyone is saying it is...
That video quality is garbage and its really impossible to tell any precise crosshair movement from that video. If you look at the clip that ecko posted (https://streamable.com/tp3p0l) the snappiness is a lot more clear but it only happens for like 2 seconds on stv from a 32 man mge server.
Don't get me wrong this is definitely sus, but this looks a lot more like a witch hunt of salty players than an accusation with concrete evidence.
I think there should be some pov demos released to the public before everyone in the community starts shitting on one person for questionable evidence.

Not sure if this is really as blatant as everyone is saying it is...
That video quality is garbage and its really impossible to tell any precise crosshair movement from that video. If you look at the clip that ecko posted (https://streamable.com/tp3p0l) the snappiness is a lot more clear but it only happens for like 2 seconds on stv from a 32 man mge server.
Don't get me wrong this is definitely sus, but this looks a lot more like a witch hunt of salty players than an accusation with concrete evidence.
I think there should be some pov demos released to the public before everyone in the community starts shitting on one person for questionable evidence.
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#41
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altraNot sure if this is really as blatant as everyone is saying it is...
That video quality is garbage and its really impossible to tell any precise crosshair movement from that video. If you look at the clip that ecko posted (https://streamable.com/tp3p0l) the snappiness is a lot more clear but it only happens for like 2 seconds on stv from a 32 man mge server.
Don't get me wrong this is definitely sus, but this looks a lot more like a witch hunt of salty players than an accusation with concrete evidence.
I think there should be some pov demos released to the public before everyone in the community starts shitting on one person for questionable evidence.

the admins have evidence unreleased to the public :)

[quote=altra]Not sure if this is really as blatant as everyone is saying it is...
That video quality is garbage and its really impossible to tell any precise crosshair movement from that video. If you look at the clip that ecko posted (https://streamable.com/tp3p0l) the snappiness is a lot more clear but it only happens for like 2 seconds on stv from a 32 man mge server.
Don't get me wrong this is definitely sus, but this looks a lot more like a witch hunt of salty players than an accusation with concrete evidence.
I think there should be some pov demos released to the public before everyone in the community starts shitting on one person for questionable evidence.[/quote]
the admins have evidence unreleased to the public :)
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#42
16 Frags +

boys you know what a giveaway is some noob is hacking: if their crosshair goes to an enemy gamer and then after shooting for some reason goes back to wherever they were looking. First 10 seconds of this dumbass playing scout and it happens like 7 times.

boys you know what a giveaway is some noob is hacking: if their crosshair goes to an enemy gamer and then after shooting for some reason goes back to wherever they were looking. First 10 seconds of this dumbass playing scout and it happens like 7 times.
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#43
25 Frags +

its almost like once a cheater always a cheater

its almost like once a cheater always a cheater
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#44
-16 Frags +
mxrthen why r u still wrong...

one of my pastimes is literally watching aim and movement in demos.
this is some anti-vaxxer telling a doctor that vaccines dont work type of shit.

[quote=mxr]then why r u still wrong...[/quote]
one of my pastimes is literally watching aim and movement in demos.
this is some anti-vaxxer telling a doctor that vaccines dont work type of shit.
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#45
10 Frags +

Stop lying u fucking cuck and just admit ur cheating already nobody believes ur bullshit

Stop lying u fucking cuck and just admit ur cheating already nobody believes ur bullshit
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#46
6 Frags +

send it to maxbox!!!!!!!

send it to maxbox!!!!!!!
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#47
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phobiaStop lying u fucking cuck and just admit ur cheating already nobody believes ur bullshit
[quote=phobia]Stop lying u fucking cuck and just admit ur cheating already nobody believes ur bullshit[/quote]
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#48
27 Frags +
GrapeJuiceIIImxrthen why r u still wrong...one of my pastimes is literally watching aim and movement in demos.
this is some anti-vaxxer telling a doctor that vaccines dont work type of shit.

It's not true that player movements are recreated perfectly. Firstly, STV demos usually have a very low tickrate (16 by default), and any movement between ticks is interpolated. Secondly, the angles you see in STV and spec are always slightly off because the server only shows an approximation to save bandwidth/space. A POV demo on the other hand is much more accurate because it is the right tickrate and angles, which is why a POV demo is so much better when reviewing cheat evidence.

However, this video is someone speccing another player in-game, in which case only the angles are incorrect while the tickrate is 66, making it more reliable as evidence, but the video is still only 30 fps. It would have been better if OP recorded a POV demo speccing this guy cheating, because that would have produced more reliable evidence.

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII][quote=mxr]then why r u still wrong...[/quote]
one of my pastimes is literally watching aim and movement in demos.
this is some anti-vaxxer telling a doctor that vaccines dont work type of shit.[/quote]

It's not true that player movements are recreated perfectly. Firstly, STV demos usually have a very low tickrate (16 by default), and any movement between ticks is interpolated. Secondly, the angles you see in STV and spec are always slightly off because the server only shows an approximation to save bandwidth/space. A POV demo on the other hand is much more accurate because it is the right tickrate and angles, which is why a POV demo is so much better when reviewing cheat evidence.

However, this video is someone speccing another player in-game, in which case only the angles are incorrect while the tickrate is 66, making it more reliable as evidence, but the video is still only 30 fps. It would have been better if OP recorded a POV demo speccing this guy cheating, because that would have produced more reliable evidence.
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#49
6 Frags +

Just dropping in to call freakshow pathetic. You cant teach gross negligence, it's natural.

Just dropping in to call freakshow pathetic. You cant teach gross negligence, it's natural.
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#50
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This seems pretty open and shut, but hey mxr if you think it's the stv demo's fault why havent you posted some recent pov demos here?

This seems pretty open and shut, but hey mxr if you think it's the stv demo's fault why havent you posted some recent pov demos here?
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#51
-5 Frags +
Ondkaja

learn something new everyday

just looks like mouse movements on STV always look natural even if they aren’t lined up with when players shoot their gun, that’s kinda what I meant by “are recreated perfectly” cuz when you look strictly at where the crosshair ends up, the shots always make sense, but when you take into account where the crosshair is when the shot is actually fired that’s when STV demos look like silent aim

[quote=Ondkaja][/quote]
learn something new everyday

just looks like mouse movements on STV always look natural even if they aren’t lined up with when players shoot their gun, that’s kinda what I meant by “are recreated perfectly” cuz when you look strictly at where the crosshair ends up, the shots always make sense, but when you take into account where the crosshair is when the shot is actually fired that’s when STV demos look like silent aim
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#52
13 Frags +

Literally all of the circumstantial evidence lines up here and there's enough fishy stuff flying around that I'd be amazed if he isn't cheating. I just really wish we had some hard proof that can't be responded to with a nerd essay

Literally all of the circumstantial evidence lines up here and there's enough fishy stuff flying around that I'd be amazed if he isn't cheating. I just really wish we had some hard proof that can't be responded to with a nerd essay
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#53
5 Frags +

mxrs defense isnt to record demos, stream with mouse cam, etc, it is to say "please stop accusing me" while twiddling his thumbs

mxrs defense isnt to record demos, stream with mouse cam, etc, it is to say "please stop accusing me" while twiddling his thumbs
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#54
-56 Frags +

Is it affecting you at all.I have played against freakshow and he isn't cheating just because someone is dominating in a division doesn't mean they are cheating. Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed is it even affecting you that someone in a 13-year-old video game is cheating possibly.TDLR: Does it affect you?

Is it affecting you at all.I have played against freakshow and he isn't cheating just because someone is dominating in a division doesn't mean they are cheating. Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed is it even affecting you that someone in a 13-year-old video game is cheating possibly.TDLR: Does it affect you?
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#55
25 Frags +
Young_Sanityv Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed

you lost me

[quote=Young_Sanityv] Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed [/quote]
you lost me
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#56
-38 Frags +

the point is does it affect you?If it doesn't affect you then why go so far to make basically 2 tftv post about it.

the point is does it affect you?If it doesn't affect you then why go so far to make basically 2 tftv post about it.
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#57
1 Frags +

honest question, I know doing pixel-perfect/optimal routes to make the xhair on target and look natural has been circumvented for a long ass time, but why are we only seeing the effects of it on the pistol? Is it just due to the firerate and that variable % aimlock/whatever?

honest question, I know doing pixel-perfect/optimal routes to make the xhair on target and look natural has been circumvented for a long ass time, but why are we only seeing the effects of it on the pistol? Is it just due to the firerate and that variable % aimlock/whatever?
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#58
50 Frags +
Young_SanityvIs it affecting you at all.I have played against freakshow and he isn't cheating just because someone is dominating in a division doesn't mean they are cheating. Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed is it even affecting you that someone in a 13-year-old video game is cheating possibly.TDLR: Does it affect you?

http://i.imgur.com/5gIzJhL.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E

[quote=Young_Sanityv]Is it affecting you at all.I have played against freakshow and he isn't cheating just because someone is dominating in a division doesn't mean they are cheating. Even if he was cheating is it affecting you? Does it make you not get out of bed is it even affecting you that someone in a 13-year-old video game is cheating possibly.TDLR: Does it affect you?[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/5gIzJhL.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E[/img]
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#59
36 Frags +

Lol sounds like we should be examining young's meteoric rise a little more closely

Lol sounds like we should be examining young's meteoric rise a little more closely
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#60
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MenachemLol sounds like we should be examining young's meteoric rise a little more closely

get cre8 on the job!

[quote=Menachem]Lol sounds like we should be examining young's meteoric rise a little more closely[/quote]
get cre8 on the job!
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