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RGL updates match fixing rules after Div-2 incident
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August 10, 2020

In response to a recent incident in Div-2, RGL have decided to expand and clarify their rules around match fixing to add more depth and allow for varying levels of punishment based on the specifics of the situation.

This came after 1-512-PLUMPWENCH was determined to have intentionally thrown their final match of the regular season in order to prevent Cat Posse from reaching playoffs, as initially reported here. This resulted in PLUMPWENCH being excluded from playoffs. On August 10th, RGL issued a more extensive statement, issuing bans to the players involved.

The rule updates regarding competitive integrity mainly involve splitting incidents into match throwing and match fixing. Fixing covers throwing to intentionally manipulate standings, as was the case here. Fixing will now result in a two season suspension for players involved, and three seasons for the team leader (one extra season each if it occurs in Invite). Throwing will have a sliding scale of punishments depending on where in the season it occurs, and what division it involves.

The decision was also made to re-classify the prior match throwing incident in the Highlander Season 5 Grand Finals to the less harsh throwing punishment, in addition to removing all sanctions from ringer chad420 who was used in that match, as RGL elected to also exempt Big Papi from any league sanctions despite ringing in the match.

You can read the full statement by head admin exa_ on RGL's website. Be sure to read the RGL rules or consult your division admin should you have any questions.

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#1
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wow thats crazy. did you guys hear about the up and comer danny2?

wow thats crazy. did you guys hear about the up and comer danny2?
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#2
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CHAD420 HAS BEEN FREED! LETS FUCKING GO

CHAD420 HAS BEEN FREED! LETS FUCKING GO
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#3
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chad420 is finally free

i hope he was paid reparations by the admins since he's never getting that hl season back...

chad420 is finally free

i hope he was paid reparations by the admins since he's never getting that hl season back...
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good to see don and bigpapi not guilty, both are great guys and best of luck to them. unfortunate for don too since he's the one that got fucked over most of all, he had a breakout season for sure

good to see don and bigpapi not guilty, both are great guys and best of luck to them. unfortunate for don too since he's the one that got fucked over most of all, he had a breakout season for sure
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#5
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I'm sad that Seek had to get fucked over by these guys too, he's a great soldier and a really nice guy. Hope he does well for himself next season cuz he deserves it.

I'm sad that Seek had to get fucked over by these guys too, he's a great soldier and a really nice guy. Hope he does well for himself next season cuz he deserves it.
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#6
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neither seek or don got banned how did they get fucked u furry retards

neither seek or don got banned how did they get fucked u furry retards
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#7
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they had to play through an entire season only for you fucks to throw it all away in the last match of the season. literally all you had to do was play the game and you guys were guaranteed second and probably were gonna win it. u and hub fucked over don and seek, literally everyone with half a brain can see that

they had to play through an entire season only for you fucks to throw it all away in the last match of the season. literally all you had to do was play the game and you guys were guaranteed second and probably were gonna win it. u and hub fucked over don and seek, literally everyone with half a brain can see that
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oh yes the tf2 prestige of winning div 2 i wonder how theyll deal with the mental trauma

oh yes the tf2 prestige of winning div 2 i wonder how theyll deal with the mental trauma
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#9
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danny1oh yes the tf2 prestige of winning div 2 i wonder how theyll deal with the mental trauma

love the double dip of saying u dont care when u were literally willing to throw a match to scum shining out of playoffs LOL the dissonance is hilarious

[quote=danny1]oh yes the tf2 prestige of winning div 2 i wonder how theyll deal with the mental trauma[/quote]
love the double dip of saying u dont care when u were literally willing to throw a match to scum shining out of playoffs LOL the dissonance is hilarious
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https://imgur.com/a/Ej5DisS

[img]https://imgur.com/a/Ej5DisS[/img]
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#11
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u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol

u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol
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#12
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really cool of you to refer to someone as "it", danny

really cool of you to refer to someone as "it", danny
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#13
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danny you posted so much, you can't pull the "lol div 2" card now lmao

danny you posted so much, you can't pull the "lol div 2" card now lmao
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#14
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aint danny the same dude who literally team stacks in mixchamp why tf we even allowing this dumbfuck to speak

aint danny the same dude who literally team stacks in mixchamp why tf we even allowing this dumbfuck to speak
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#15
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like its stupid she can play scout in the div but u threw and now ur big mad makin a clown of urself ur so pathetic bro

like its stupid she can play scout in the div but u threw and now ur big mad makin a clown of urself ur so pathetic bro
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#16
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idk who this danny guy is but he seems like a fuckin tool

idk who this danny guy is but he seems like a fuckin tool
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#17
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plumpwench has more than seven letters. you cant make it a phone number. come on

plumpwench has more than seven letters. you cant make it a phone number. come on
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#18
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can i get unbanned please

can i get unbanned please
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I have been unbanned from RGL 11 days before my original unban date. I feel like my ban was completely unjustified and I feel completely robbed of my last season of highlander. I have a life situation which requires me to separate myself from the community and game entirely, and I regret being unable to play this last season and enjoy a final game with the friends I have made along my tf2 journey, but I do not regret the courageous actions of my brothers who defied the admin staff. In my final moments I have been unbanned, feels like a slap in the face on top of the undeserved sentencing in this unholy prison of RGL bans. I am chad420

I have been unbanned from RGL 11 days before my original unban date. I feel like my ban was completely unjustified and I feel completely robbed of my last season of highlander. I have a life situation which requires me to separate myself from the community and game entirely, and I regret being unable to play this last season and enjoy a final game with the friends I have made along my tf2 journey, but I do not regret the courageous actions of my brothers who defied the admin staff. In my final moments I have been unbanned, feels like a slap in the face on top of the undeserved sentencing in this unholy prison of RGL bans. I am chad420
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#20
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look at me im a snake!

look at me im a snake!
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#21
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perfectionlook at me im a snake!

chinga tu madre

[quote=perfection]look at me im a snake![/quote]
chinga tu madre
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danny1u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol

u guys are acting like shes some untouchable god lmao. if u guys were gonna win div 2 and play div 1 next season u would have had to play scouts MUCH better than shining. chin up and hit the dm server and maybe next time u wont get dicked down by a medic main

its a shame that kenai guy is banned tho he was def an up n comer

[quote=danny1]u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol[/quote]
u guys are acting like shes some untouchable god lmao. if u guys were gonna win div 2 and play div 1 next season u would have had to play scouts MUCH better than shining. chin up and hit the dm server and maybe next time u wont get dicked down by a medic main


its a shame that kenai guy is banned tho he was def an up n comer
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#23
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who is shining star

who is shining star
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#24
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(=´ᆺ`=)

(=´ᆺ`=)
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#25
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total clownage

total clownage
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#26
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Aesome

Aesome
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#27
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danny1u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol

ayo no bad blood but,

https://youtu.be/dhkJt7nPwPQ

[quote=danny1]u telling me it wasnt worth to scum it out of playoffs when everyone in the division agrees it shouldnt have played in the division anyway, really it was just a funny thing to do lol[/quote]

ayo no bad blood but,

https://youtu.be/dhkJt7nPwPQ
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#28
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Seekreally cool of you to refer to someone as "it", danny

he's not a native english speaker, he means "the team". Not cool to bash someone's origins for upfrags.

dishsoapwhy tf we even allowing this dumbfuck to speak

you clearly do not understand the concept of forums, and call for censorship, nice

kudos to RGL to try and keep a clean league. However the following points are things that I think could be improved :

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RGL rulesThe RGL team considers match-fixing to be more severe than a match throwing incident, as match-fixing is a deliberate act to improperly affect the standings of the teams in a division. So a normal match throwing offense is to throw a match that is inconsequential for who makes playoffs? You do not define the term anywhere afaik.
RGL rulesThis would allow the division administrators to carefully watch the POVs of the players to only penalize the players that took a hand in throwing and violating the [1008.13] - Match Throwing / League Fixing guidelinesSo by only watching the stv you think you can determine who threw? is it not a team decision? How can you judge without any comms? What about a player that tells his teammates to feed? All the things you put in §[1008.13] are easily abuseable and can be worked around by people a bit smarter than those guys.
RGL rulesPurposefully not trying, such as, off-classing to suboptimal team compositions in terms of skill or game situation or suboptimal ringers who are below the division’s team skill level. so, if you do not have friends at your level to ring for you, it's an offense? sounds harsh, maybe the ringer system in RGL is different than the way we do it in etf2l.
if I were to make a team to play thief's style, would I be considered to be throwing all my matches?
RGL reportA summary of the evidence include:
Intentional feeding by players
Intentionally wasting ubers
how do you draw the line between "intentional feeding" and people being bad at the game? I assume that the evidence in this match is VERY obvious but once again this is easily abuseable.

tldr be careful with the wording of your rules to avoid easy abuse or too much "admin discretion". All the evidence you claim to gather is quite soft and not as tangible as what is usually accepted as "proof" (for exemple : https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal).
[quote=Seek]really cool of you to refer to someone as "it", danny[/quote]
he's not a native english speaker, he means "the team". Not cool to bash someone's origins for upfrags.


[quote=dishsoap]why tf we even allowing this dumbfuck to speak[/quote]
you clearly do not understand the concept of forums, and call for censorship, nice

kudos to RGL to try and keep a clean league. However the following points are things that I think could be improved :
[spoiler]
[quote=RGL rules]The RGL team considers match-fixing to be more severe than a match throwing incident, as match-fixing is a deliberate act to improperly affect the standings of the teams in a division. [/quote]
So a normal match throwing offense is to throw a match that is inconsequential for who makes playoffs? You do not define the term anywhere afaik.

[quote=RGL rules]This would allow the division administrators to carefully watch the POVs of the players to only penalize the players that took a hand in throwing and violating the [1008.13] - Match Throwing / League Fixing guidelines[/quote]
So by only watching the stv you think you can determine who threw? is it not a team decision? How can you judge without any comms? What about a player that tells his teammates to feed? All the things you put in §[1008.13] are easily abuseable and can be worked around by people a bit smarter than those guys.

[quote=RGL rules]Purposefully not trying, such as, off-classing to suboptimal team compositions in terms of skill or game situation or suboptimal ringers who are below the division’s team skill level.
[/quote]
so, if you do not have friends at your level to ring for you, it's an offense? sounds harsh, maybe the ringer system in RGL is different than the way we do it in etf2l.
if I were to make a team to play thief's style, would I be considered to be throwing all my matches?

[quote=RGL report]A summary of the evidence include:
Intentional feeding by players
Intentionally wasting ubers
[/quote]
how do you draw the line between "intentional feeding" and people being bad at the game? I assume that the evidence in this match is VERY obvious but once again this is easily abuseable.

tldr be careful with the wording of your rules to avoid easy abuse or too much "admin discretion". All the evidence you claim to gather is quite soft and not as tangible as what is usually accepted as "proof" (for exemple : https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal).
[/spoiler]
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#29
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#30
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youre a disgrace to dannys everywhere

youre a disgrace to dannys everywhere
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