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#31
25 Frags +
Petetbh I really don't have a strong opinion on sin karma but the blind dets aren't really what make him the most sus imo

There was one time he asked "Do we have ad?" No one responded, 10 seconds later he said "OH they almost have Uber!" While standing on the pack on process mid

Or the time I was feeding on soldier and didn't say anything and he called "our soldier is about to die" I asked how he knew and he said "I could see your health through the wall because I'm on medic"

when i ask what ubers are and no one responds i think about it in my head and i figure out what ubers are a few seconds later

[quote=Pete]tbh I really don't have a strong opinion on sin karma but the blind dets aren't really what make him the most sus imo

There was one time he asked "Do we have ad?" No one responded, 10 seconds later he said "OH they almost have Uber!" While standing on the pack on process mid

Or the time I was feeding on soldier and didn't say anything and he called "our soldier is about to die" I asked how he knew and he said "I could see your health through the wall because I'm on medic"[/quote]

when i ask what ubers are and no one responds i think about it in my head and i figure out what ubers are a few seconds later
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#32
cp_granary_pro
22 Frags +

Y'all got some real concrete evidence here good work team

Y'all got some real concrete evidence here good work team
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#33
-2 Frags +

I heard he once shot a rocket at a choke and then it hit someone who was walking up to said choke.

I heard he once shot a rocket at a choke and then it hit someone who was walking up to said choke.
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#34
-6 Frags +

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/671580149187346442/676952261682790430/Screen_Shot_2020-02-11_at_4.45.43_PM.png

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/671580149187346442/676952261682790430/Screen_Shot_2020-02-11_at_4.45.43_PM.png[/img]
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#35
-4 Frags +
Petetbh I really don't have a strong opinion on sin karma but the blind dets aren't really what make him the most sus imo

There was one time he asked "Do we have ad?" No one responded, 10 seconds later he said "OH they almost have Uber!" While standing on the pack on process mid

Or the time I was feeding on soldier and didn't say anything and he called "our soldier is about to die" I asked how he knew and he said "I could see your health through the wall because I'm on medic"

Depending on the context the uber call sounds a bit suspect on what you're describing, but your 2nd situation where he called you were about to die can be explained by the medic auto-call options and the match_hud at the top that shows everyone's HP on the team.

https://clips.twitch.tv/PowerfulHedonisticBulgogiWOOP
This clip for blind dets can be mostly explained by multiple visual cues.

Det number 1 going through choke the health beam would be visible coming off the scout.

Det number 2 on the wood beam, he could clearly see the red demo and scout crossing already.

Det number 3 on the point, good guess based on number of people on the cap point. As can be seen via the hud.

Det number 4 between choke and blue 2nd, this is the only one that can really be considered suspect but even then it's still a bit reaching. Sinkarma can see the uber come in from choke and still sees them all the way upto about 33s into the clip.
At this point what could Sin Karma know that would allow him to make the guess of the det timing.

  • 4s of uber has already been used from when he last saw the Red team
  • The Red demo was still standing back near choke
  • That Xattuu did at least 1 uber flash

Given the timing of all of that it would be pretty reasonable to guess to det about 1s after the uber should end since it's likely the Red team will either A group up and try to go up top, B the demo will walk forward over the stickies or C Red team backs up to choke to prepare for a counter sac from Blu since the Blue medic just died.

Granted this is 1 ~45s clip maybe there's more that I can't see

[quote=Pete]tbh I really don't have a strong opinion on sin karma but the blind dets aren't really what make him the most sus imo

There was one time he asked "Do we have ad?" No one responded, 10 seconds later he said "OH they almost have Uber!" While standing on the pack on process mid

Or the time I was feeding on soldier and didn't say anything and he called "our soldier is about to die" I asked how he knew and he said "I could see your health through the wall because I'm on medic"[/quote]

Depending on the context the uber call sounds a bit suspect on what you're describing, but your 2nd situation where he called you were about to die can be explained by the medic auto-call options and the match_hud at the top that shows everyone's HP on the team.


https://clips.twitch.tv/PowerfulHedonisticBulgogiWOOP
This clip for blind dets can be mostly explained by multiple visual cues.

Det number 1 going through choke the health beam would be visible coming off the scout.

Det number 2 on the wood beam, he could clearly see the red demo and scout crossing already.

Det number 3 on the point, good guess based on number of people on the cap point. As can be seen via the hud.

Det number 4 between choke and blue 2nd, this is the only one that can really be considered suspect but even then it's still a bit reaching. Sinkarma can see the uber come in from choke and still sees them all the way upto about 33s into the clip.
At this point what [i]could[/i] Sin Karma know that would allow him to make the guess of the det timing.

[list]
[*] 4s of uber has already been used from when he last saw the Red team
[*] The Red demo was still standing back near choke
[*] That Xattuu did at least 1 uber flash
[/list]

Given the timing of all of that it would be pretty reasonable to guess to det about 1s after the uber should end since it's likely the Red team will either A group up and try to go up top, B the demo will walk forward over the stickies or C Red team backs up to choke to prepare for a counter sac from Blu since the Blue medic just died.

Granted this is 1 ~45s clip maybe there's more that I can't see
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#36
-1 Frags +

yeah and I’m sure he was definitely thinking about all of those factors when he did that

yeah and I’m sure he was definitely thinking about all of those factors when he did that
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#37
10 Frags +
rock_beachyeah and I’m sure he was definitely thinking about all of those factors when he did that

its very normal to think about all that when playing 6s

[quote=rock_beach]yeah and I’m sure he was definitely thinking about all of those factors when he did that[/quote]
its very normal to think about all that when playing 6s
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#38
15 Frags +

sin karma is not very normal
also u don’t even know who he is let alone played a pug with him but im glad u got to put ur 2 cents in

sin karma is not very normal
also u don’t even know who he is let alone played a pug with him but im glad u got to put ur 2 cents in
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#39
-2 Frags +

dont need to know who he is to tell you that its very likely he thought of those factors in that clip

dont need to know who he is to tell you that its very likely he thought of those factors in that clip
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#40
38 Frags +

He uses arrow keys bro, do u actually think he’s capable of installing cheats

He uses arrow keys bro, do u actually think he’s capable of installing cheats
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#41
29 Frags +
jrodHe uses arrow keys bro, do u actually think he’s capable of installing cheats

every person who cheats is pretty fucking retarded to begin with so having a brain isn't exactly a prerequisite

[quote=jrod]He uses arrow keys bro, do u actually think he’s capable of installing cheats[/quote]
every person who cheats is pretty fucking retarded to begin with so having a brain isn't exactly a prerequisite
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#42
35 Frags +

Why are people so eager to admit that they aren't actually thinking when they play tf2

Like maybe sin actually got a brain somewhere in his 130 hr/2 week journey

Sigh and hass hit blind dets fairly often in matches and that's against better players who are trying harder than your average pug bot that probably only clears 1/10th of possible traps

Would be nice if there was more evidence than a clip of people holding W nonstop through every choke on the map

Why are people so eager to admit that they aren't actually thinking when they play tf2

Like maybe sin actually got a brain somewhere in his 130 hr/2 week journey

Sigh and hass hit blind dets fairly often in matches and that's against better players who are trying harder than your average pug bot that probably only clears 1/10th of possible traps

Would be nice if there was more evidence than a clip of people holding W nonstop through every choke on the map
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#43
26 Frags +

I think he just cares more about the game and is one of the faster up and comers IMO. That gullywash clip is pretty awful evidence to assume hes auto deting or walling. I think that hes just better than all the people in top main/low advanced who's been playing the game for 2-3 years because he's actually grinding non-stop. I don't think hes cheating personally and I think he's on the path to being a good advanced player.

I think he just cares more about the game and is one of the faster up and comers IMO. That gullywash clip is pretty awful evidence to assume hes auto deting or walling. I think that hes just better than all the people in top main/low advanced who's been playing the game for 2-3 years because he's actually grinding non-stop. I don't think hes cheating personally and I think he's on the path to being a good advanced player.
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#44
32 Frags +

I clipped the gully thing originally because I thought it was really funny that he had like 5 traps on mid not because I thought he was autodetting lmao.

I clipped the gully thing originally because I thought it was really funny that he had like 5 traps on mid not because I thought he was autodetting lmao.
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#45
18 Frags +
rock_beachsin karma is not very normal
also u don’t even know who he is let alone played a pug with him but im glad u got to put ur 2 cents in

ur open

[quote=rock_beach]sin karma is not very normal
also u don’t even know who he is let alone played a pug with him but im glad u got to put ur 2 cents in[/quote]
ur open
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#46
60 Frags +

https://media.giphy.com/media/WmuinTZzjKUUXWfZ6p/giphy.gif

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/WmuinTZzjKUUXWfZ6p/giphy.gif[/img]
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#47
18 Frags +

All of this is irrelevant unless someone actually takes the time to watch a bunch of demos from multiple different dates to determine if hes cheating or not. Preferably someone who's good at demo.

And literally no one wants to do that

All of this is irrelevant unless someone actually takes the time to watch a bunch of demos from multiple different dates to determine if hes cheating or not. Preferably someone who's good at demo.

And literally no one wants to do that
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#48
4 Frags +

this is probably gonna get me ree'd at by the other nut.city admins but I was under the impression there were at least STV demos used to ban, not fucking twitch clips. I personally don't think sin k4rma is cheating, just a skilled demoman and am kinda baffled that we banned someone for 1 sus twitch clip at best. No one on our admin team has any AC experience so I dont even understand why we are trusting our own judgement and not sending shit off to ETF2L/RGL AC Admins for review if we really think someone is hacking.

unbanned, time to get screamed at by wolsneet/prid/zidgel

this is probably gonna get me ree'd at by the other nut.city admins but I was under the impression there were [i]at least[/i] STV demos used to ban, not fucking [b]twitch clips[/b]. I personally don't think sin k4rma is cheating, just a skilled demoman and am kinda baffled that we banned someone for 1 sus twitch clip at best. No one on our admin team has any AC experience so I dont even understand why we are trusting our own judgement and not sending shit off to ETF2L/RGL AC Admins for review if we really think someone is hacking.

unbanned, time to get screamed at by wolsneet/prid/zidgel
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#49
-12 Frags +

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1995854248 this will explain your answer pete of why I was able to know you where going to die also medic mains take note this is how you know to heal people make sure the auto health percentage is at max or high it makes decision on where you want to be and where you should position your self.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1995854248 this will explain your answer pete of why I was able to know you where going to die also medic mains take note this is how you know to heal people make sure the auto health percentage is at max or high it makes decision on where you want to be and where you should position your self.
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#50
-5 Frags +

I remember this guy being a bot in Faceit but he came a long ways since then and watching him play felt like he actually improved at the game. Just to echo what cukei said, having a top demo player look at his stuff would be the best way to determine this once and for all, maybe good stream content for habib and botmode if they give a shit.

From my POV, when you no life this game like he does, you just start seeing patterns that work in your gameplay that you keep implementing over and over consistently.

I remember this guy being a bot in Faceit but he came a long ways since then and watching him play felt like he actually improved at the game. Just to echo what cukei said, having a top demo player look at his stuff would be the best way to determine this once and for all, maybe good stream content for habib and botmode if they give a shit.

From my POV, when you no life this game like he does, you just start seeing patterns that work in your gameplay that you keep implementing over and over consistently.
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#51
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Zestyhttps://media.giphy.com/media/WmuinTZzjKUUXWfZ6p/giphy.gif

i posted all the bad sin k4rma memes sad

[quote=Zesty][img]https://media.giphy.com/media/WmuinTZzjKUUXWfZ6p/giphy.gif[/img][/quote]
i posted all the bad sin k4rma memes sad
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#52
17 Frags +

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/250458796625887234/677279579743977491/unknown.png

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/250458796625887234/677279579743977491/unknown.png[/img]
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#53
-3 Frags +

https://imgur.com/r9euoWZ

https://imgur.com/r9euoWZ
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#54
-1 Frags +
Discordhttps://imgur.com/r9euoWZ

save it

[quote=Discord]https://imgur.com/r9euoWZ[/quote]
save it
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#55
-14 Frags +

sin next season? i like your aura

sin next season? i like your aura
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#56
-15 Frags +

doesnt cheat
ur welcome

doesnt cheat
ur welcome
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#57
36 Frags +
dcvedoesnt cheat
ur welcome

They said someone good at demoman

[quote=dcve]doesnt cheat
ur welcome[/quote]

They said someone good at demoman
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#58
-1 Frags +

botmode Jarret and alex.exe looked at some of his demos when him cheating was first brought up on Pugchamp and all 3 agreed there wasn't anything suspicious

botmode Jarret and alex.exe looked at some of his demos when him cheating was first brought up on Pugchamp and all 3 agreed there wasn't anything suspicious
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#59
-9 Frags +

Are people really out here losing to sin k4rma alt demoman ?

Are people really out here losing to sin k4rma alt demoman ?
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#60
-2 Frags +

https://youtu.be/npEyLbFbvi4

https://youtu.be/npEyLbFbvi4
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