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Coming out
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#91
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@vis

fraternal birth order isnt a new discovery. the problem with your post is the application of genetic determinism to explain homosexuality, while clearly having a (being charitable) high-school level understanding of immunology and physiology. The extent to which it is genetically determined (predisposed, to be more accurate) is a fairly intense field of study, but your proposed mechanism and presumed source offer incompetent and mechanistically inconclusive explanations, respectively. Further, any attempt to define homosexuality as a predominately genetic phenomena is spurious in the absence of more rigorous study. Your (presumed) source offered no variance assessments between homologs of hetero- and homosexual carriers, so arguing that the heritability* of homosexuality at all is a poor interpretation of the data I gave you. Considering you haven't posted a source yourself, I'd reccomend diving a bit deeper into the peer reviewed literature before making further claims. I'd also reccomend brushing up on comparable phenomena where maternal immunoresponse results in developmental "defects"**, e.g. rh-factor induced hemolytic disease in newborns. In doing so, you'd notice that the response is triggered not by immunoperception across the placenta, but rather by child-to-mother blood transfer occurring during delivery. In the absence of a similar exposure (e.g. one in which the fetal/neonatal nervous tissue is introduced into maternal circulation for immunorecgonition), I really look forward to hearing how you explain the maternal immune response arising to begin with. I'd like reiterate that the protein of consequence here is an embedded surface protein in fetal neuronal tissue, and not in free serum, and so there needs to be some mechanism by which fetal neuronal tissue is exposed to maternal immune cells.

thanks!

*I use heritability in the rigorous sense here, cf.
** I use the term defect here cautiously. Within the broader framework of evolution I do not like the term as it carries significant negative connotation, and within this subject it risks characterizing, in light of further study demonstrating genetic causation of homosexuality, homosexuality itself as a disorder or defect i.e. something to be "corrected"

@vis

fraternal birth order isnt a new discovery. the problem with your post is the application of genetic determinism to explain homosexuality, while clearly having a (being charitable) high-school level understanding of immunology and physiology. The extent to which it is genetically determined (predisposed, to be more accurate) is a fairly intense field of study, but your proposed mechanism and presumed source offer incompetent and mechanistically inconclusive explanations, respectively. Further, any attempt to define homosexuality as a predominately genetic phenomena is spurious in the absence of more rigorous study. Your (presumed) source offered no variance assessments between homologs of hetero- and homosexual carriers, so arguing that the heritability* of homosexuality at all is a poor interpretation of the data [i]I[/i] gave you. Considering you haven't posted a source yourself, I'd reccomend diving a bit deeper into the peer reviewed literature before making further claims. I'd also reccomend brushing up on comparable phenomena where maternal immunoresponse results in developmental "defects"**, e.g. rh-factor induced hemolytic disease in newborns. In doing so, you'd notice that the response is triggered not by immunoperception across the placenta, but rather by child-to-mother blood transfer occurring during delivery. In the absence of a similar exposure (e.g. one in which the fetal/neonatal nervous tissue is introduced into maternal circulation for immunorecgonition), I really look forward to hearing how you explain the maternal immune response arising to begin with. I'd like reiterate that the protein of consequence here is an embedded surface protein in fetal neuronal tissue, and not in free serum, and so there needs to be some mechanism by which fetal neuronal tissue is exposed to maternal immune cells.

thanks!

*I use heritability in the rigorous sense here, [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability]cf.[/url]
** I use the term defect here cautiously. Within the broader framework of evolution I do not like the term as it carries significant negative connotation, and within this subject it risks characterizing, in light of further study demonstrating genetic causation of homosexuality, homosexuality itself as a disorder or defect i.e. something to be "corrected"
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#92
9 Frags +

also, please stop posting

also, please stop posting
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#93
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the people who are arguing are now triple gay. not that there's anything wrong with being gay....

the people who are arguing are now triple gay. not that there's anything wrong with being gay....
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#94
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Rebitethe people who are arguing are now triple gay. not that there's anything wrong with being gay....

being homophobic in a thread about encouraging a safe and welcoming space for LGBT+ community members is a bad look

[quote=Rebite]the people who are arguing are now triple gay. not that there's anything wrong with being gay....[/quote]
being homophobic in a thread about encouraging a safe and welcoming space for LGBT+ community members is a bad look
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#95
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/315/902/034.png

[img]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/315/902/034.png[/img]
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#96
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eee.

Yes, I was simply asked to elaborate what I meant and I did so in a full response, clearly explaining the part with a girl having older brothers being theory of mine that seemed somewhat logical, and dedicated a whole paragraph on how even I saw several flaws within it. I did not argue that I was right, I would suggest all of you a pair of glasses to read it carefully.

In your post you say you look at the article in disbelief, but it is explaining the most probable science behind a tendency that EXISTS, and all I did for the most part in my posts is remind all of you that this tendency EXISTS, whatever the science behind it might be. Calling me names for doing that only proves how mentally restricted those who did it are.

I'm not going to stop posting when some idiots believe the only way to win an argument is to insult, knowing they cannot defend their point due to inability to properly put in use their flat-surfaced brains.

[quote=eee].[/quote]
Yes, I was simply asked to elaborate what I meant and I did so in a full response, clearly explaining the part with a girl having older brothers being theory of mine that seemed somewhat logical, and dedicated a whole paragraph on how even I saw several flaws within it. I did not argue that I was right, I would suggest all of you a pair of glasses to read it carefully.

In your post you say you look at the article in disbelief, but it is explaining the most probable science [b]behind[/b] a [b]tendency [/b]that [b]EXISTS[/b], and all I did for the most part in my posts is remind all of you that this [b]tendency[/b] [b]EXISTS[/b], whatever the science behind it might be. Calling me names for doing that only proves how mentally restricted those who did it are.

I'm not going to stop posting when some idiots believe the only way to win an argument is to insult, knowing they cannot defend their point due to inability to properly put in use their flat-surfaced brains.
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#97
5 Frags +

I love and miss you Blues D:

I love and miss you Blues D:
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#98
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i wnan a have sxe with nip nop buT im not gay

i wnan a have sxe with nip nop buT im not gay
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#99
39 Frags +

This is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.

This is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.
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#100
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BilbertThis is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.

If you need a friend when you tell your parents, I'll be there for you.

[quote=Bilbert]This is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.[/quote]
If you need a friend when you tell your parents, I'll be there for you.
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#101
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BilbertThis is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.

I bet you use the Reserve Shooter, too, you sick fuck.

[quote=Bilbert]This is such a wholesome and supportive community. I feel comfortable saying that I sometimes use Shotgun to deny on Spire.[/quote]

I bet you use the Reserve Shooter, too, you sick fuck.
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#102
4 Frags +

Well personaly, it's more like Gemm, like the idea of an experience with a man sounds cool for me, but i've never got the opportunity to find either a guy that i want to have sex with or a guy that wants to have sex with me (expect of some 40yo horny garbage person, that tried to give me money for that). For now i like good and old straight sex

Well personaly, it's more like Gemm, like the idea of an experience with a man sounds cool for me, but i've never got the opportunity to find either a guy that i want to have sex with or a guy that wants to have sex with me (expect of some 40yo horny garbage person, that tried to give me money for that). For now i like good and old straight sex
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#103
-7 Frags +

everyone downvote vis

everyone downvote vis
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#104
9 Frags +

Our ancestors who won world wars for us are now looking down from the heavens as we discuss being bi curious on a team fortress two forum.

Our ancestors who won world wars for us are now looking down from the heavens as we discuss being bi curious on a team fortress two forum.
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#105
5 Frags +
Olghai've never got the opportunity to find either a guy that i want to have sex with or a guy that wants to have sex with me

Go on a holiday and download Grindr lol

[quote=Olgha]i've never got the opportunity to find either a guy that i want to have sex with or a guy that wants to have sex with me[/quote]
Go on a holiday and download Grindr lol
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#106
2 Frags +

fuck you cunt

fuck you cunt
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#107
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BBiA_duchessOur ancestors who won world wars for us are now looking down from the heavens as we discuss being bi curious on a team fortress two forum.

And we can be glad that nothing of that scale is nearly as likely to crop up and distract us from being ourselves and embracing who we are in our current time, online freedom has definitely helped me come out to people and eventually feel more comfortable with it in the real.

[quote=BBiA_duchess]Our ancestors who won world wars for us are now looking down from the heavens as we discuss being bi curious on a team fortress two forum.[/quote]

And we can be glad that nothing of that scale is nearly as likely to crop up and distract us from being ourselves and embracing who we are in our current time, online freedom has definitely helped me come out to people and eventually feel more comfortable with it in the real.
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