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Concerns about Flares that Care
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#151
71 Frags +

defy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads

defy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads
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#152
7 Frags +

lmao though giving items to someone because you think they're a woman and you love them, people really dont deserve any more if that's all they do with their money

lmao though giving items to someone because you think they're a woman and you love them, people really dont deserve any more if that's all they do with their money
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#153
3 Frags +
snovenDoctorMiggyGuys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.

Thanks for your input, now take your Bernie Madoff-lookin ass out of here!

[quote=snoven][quote=DoctorMiggy]Guys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.[/quote]

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.[/quote]

Thanks for your input, now take your Bernie Madoff-lookin ass out of here!
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#154
4 Frags +
CingOfSpadesOn the other hand, that's a genuine mistake, and before calling him out for being an awful person, consider first that he may just not have known any better.

Yeah, it's really hard to say he might not have known any better when he gloats about scamming people. From the OP:

DigresserHere’s the post where he gloats about his scamming to his victims. While the entire despicable thing is worth reading, here is the key bit: “In total, I gained somewhere near the 40 bud range of total input from people specifically from the vsh server, and I appreciate it greatly. It pleases me greatly that simply by asking for s*** from all of you, and pretending to care, or make some effort to scam it, via a broker, ill pay you back, etc., I could get ALL OF THAT.”
[quote=CingOfSpades]On the other hand, that's a genuine mistake, and before calling him out for being an awful person, consider first that he may just not have known any better.[/quote]

Yeah, it's really hard to say he might not have known any better when he gloats about scamming people. From the OP:

[quote=Digresser]Here’s the [url=http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198042571598-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.82594/#post-227233]post[/url] where he gloats about his scamming to his victims. While the entire despicable thing is worth reading, here is the key bit: [b]“In total, I gained somewhere near the 40 bud range of total input from people specifically from the vsh server, and I appreciate it greatly. It pleases me greatly that simply by asking for s*** from all of you, and pretending to care, or make some effort to scam it, via a broker, ill pay you back, etc., I could get ALL OF THAT.”[/b][/quote]
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#155
27 Frags +
snovenDoctorMiggyGuys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.

Why aren't you returning item donations then and going against your word? You have NO business selling those items for your own personal gain when they were intended for the event. Even with your bad history coming to light you could've still done the right thing not issuing an ultimatum for the item donations before selling them, and give the item donation bot to the new people running FTC. It's obvious you're still cashing out so desperately on what you could get.

[quote=snoven][quote=DoctorMiggy]Guys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.[/quote]

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.[/quote]

Why aren't you returning item donations then and going against your word? You have NO business selling those items for your own personal gain when they were intended for the event. Even with your bad history coming to light you could've still done the right thing not issuing an ultimatum for the item donations before selling them, and give the item donation bot to the new people running FTC. It's obvious you're still cashing out so desperately on what you could get.
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#156
17 Frags +
snovenPlease make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.

you gonna give wrech and everyone else's shit back instead of being a scamming dipshit again?

[quote=snoven]
Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.[/quote]

you gonna give wrech and everyone else's shit back instead of being a scamming dipshit again?
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#157
0 Frags +
sky_snovenPlease make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.
you gonna give wrech and everyone else's shit back instead of being a scamming dipshit again?

yeah thats how scamming works

[quote=sky_][quote=snoven]
Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.[/quote]

you gonna give wrech and everyone else's shit back instead of being a scamming dipshit again?[/quote]
yeah thats how scamming works
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#158
6 Frags +
snovenDoctorMiggyGuys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.

If you would have wanted it to be enjoyable you wouldnt have caused all this drama, if you cared about the cause you were suporting you would have let other members handle the donated items and not sell the donated items (that were for the kids) for games on steam.

[quote=snoven][quote=DoctorMiggy]Guys,
I spoke with Snoven.
B_RED, Wolf Machina, and Myself now have full access to the email accounts, twitch, spotify(lol wut?), the schedule information, and the steam group.
FtC is being saved. Stay tuned.[/quote]

Please make FTC an enjoyable experience, its all i wanted it to be.[/quote]

If you would have wanted it to be enjoyable you wouldnt have caused all this drama, if you cared about the cause you were suporting you would have let other members handle the donated items and not sell the donated items (that were for the kids) for games on steam.
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#159
24 Frags +

Maybe if your dad spent more time hugging you and less time shutting off your internet you wouldn't be stealing from kind strangers trying to donate to a charity

Maybe if your dad spent more time hugging you and less time shutting off your internet you wouldn't be stealing from kind strangers trying to donate to a charity
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#160
-70 Frags +
scrimshawdefy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads

yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw

also if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1

[quote=scrimshaw]defy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads[/quote]

yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw

also if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1
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#161
-7 Frags +

thx for bein a snowden about snoven

thx for bein a snowden about snoven
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#162
22 Frags +
capnfapnthx for bein a snowden about snoven

161 posts in and thats the best u can do?

[quote=capnfapn]thx for bein a snowden about snoven[/quote]

161 posts in and thats the best u can do?
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#163
marketplace.tf
10 Frags +
fatswimdudecapnfapnthx for bein a snowden about snoven
161 posts in and thats the best u can do?

it was clever

just bad

[quote=fatswimdude][quote=capnfapn]thx for bein a snowden about snoven[/quote]

161 posts in and thats the best u can do?[/quote]

it was clever

just bad
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#164
10 Frags +

Glad I elected to donate more to TotH instead of donate to both FTC and TotH. This is super disappointing though, taking advantage of an incredible, generous community(see TotH last year, or team fundraisers)

Glad I elected to donate more to TotH instead of donate to both FTC and TotH. This is super disappointing though, taking advantage of an incredible, generous community(see TotH last year, or team fundraisers)
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#165
10 Frags +
PwnuExplain to me how being a scammer makes you a bad person by default? Sure he took advantage of people, sure he was an asshole to them.

Uh...

[quote=Pwnu]Explain to me how being a [b]scammer[/b] makes you a bad person by default? Sure [b]he took advantage of people[/b], sure [b]he was an asshole to them[/b].[/quote]

Uh...
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#166
4 Frags +
defyscrimshawdefy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads
yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw

also if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1

lol please don't fight each other while we are casting out a demon from the congregation!

[quote=defy][quote=scrimshaw]defy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads[/quote]

yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw

also if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1[/quote]

lol please don't fight each other while we are casting out a demon from the congregation!
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#167
0 Frags +

Did anyone notice that the account Plotchy used to gloat on SteamRep is named B_Red? It's not B_Red's actual account, but it seems this was the "middleman" used for scams. Is he throwing B_Red under the bus or is it both of them?

Did anyone notice that the account Plotchy used to gloat on SteamRep is named B_Red? It's not B_Red's actual account, but it seems this was the "middleman" used for scams. Is he throwing B_Red under the bus or is it both of them?
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#168
17 Frags +
defyscrimshawdefy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads
yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw

smh angry gamers

defyalso if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1

so youre saying you dont bandwagon because you had one thread where you complained about something and then got upset that the bandwagon wasn't on your side for once?

[quote=defy][quote=scrimshaw]defy is ur whole life just farming +frags in bandwagon threads[/quote]

yeah man you caught me, who are you again? i dont recognize the name faggotshaw[/quote]

smh angry gamers

[quote=defy]also if you think i post for that reason you're dumb as fuck, point proven here and that thread i linked

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/10702/quickfix/?page=1[/quote]

so youre saying you dont bandwagon because you had one thread where you complained about something and then got upset that the bandwagon wasn't on your side for once?
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#169
2 Frags +

Why exactly is snoven still defending the fact he wanted the best for the event and yet still declines people looking for refunds? if FTC is truly a legitimate event and snoven is simply being butchered for his past, surely a reasonable person in his position would defend himself, offer item refunds, deliver and then pass the event to a more trusted person to manage it.

As of now, all i've seen is him cancelling the stream the second this became widespread (presumably because many FTC contributors ceased activity and dropped out), stay vague on his explanation (i wanna forget the past guys) and deny some refunds.

Why exactly is snoven still defending the fact he wanted the best for the event and yet still declines people looking for refunds? if FTC is truly a legitimate event and snoven is simply being butchered for his past, surely a reasonable person in his position would defend himself, offer item refunds, deliver and then pass the event to a more trusted person to manage it.

As of now, all i've seen is him cancelling the stream the second this became widespread (presumably because many FTC contributors ceased activity and dropped out), stay vague on his explanation (i wanna forget the past guys) and deny some refunds.
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#170
0 Frags +

looks like he's not just limited to stealing items
he even stole my name

looks like he's not just limited to stealing items
he even stole my name
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#171
-7 Frags +

if you want to donate to a charity go outside and buy a meal for a homeless person or just go to humble bundle like no one is forcing you to donate to this charity if you are skeptical about it just like dont donate there is no need for a 6 page thread about someone being a known scammer and trashing on him

if you want to donate to a charity go outside and buy a meal for a homeless person or just go to humble bundle like no one is forcing you to donate to this charity if you are skeptical about it just like dont donate there is no need for a 6 page thread about someone being a known scammer and trashing on him
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#172
-9 Frags +

Plotchy is my boy

Plotchy is my boy
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#173
19 Frags +
pachDid anyone notice that the account Plotchy used to gloat on SteamRep is named B_Red? It's not B_Red's actual account, but it seems this was the "middleman" used for scams. Is he throwing B_Red under the bus or is it both of them?

It was Plotchy's account. I tracked it down. When asked about it, B_Red told me Plotchy had named an alt after him to tease him about something. I was satisfied by that response and the others B_Red gave me when I friended him last night when I was working on my post I'd realized he had left FTC.

Just to let people to keep people informed, Snoven is currently selling the donated items on the Steam Market (for incredibly cheap prices). For instance, here's a Collector's Backburner which was donated to FTC, and here's a screenshot of it currently on the Market, and here's what Snoven's avatar is right now. Please note that even the name of the item is the same.

He could have owned up to his past and been transparent about his current actions. He'd have come out of this just fine. Unfortunately, he's chosen to view himself as a victim who has deserves to keep the donations. He currently has a Twitch chat going on. Here are a few highlights:

Snoven: @Redditjohnny yeah, and i was, then digresser wanted to shitpost on me before anything happened
Pachupach: "Everyone was mean to me about being a scammer, so I'm gonna keep all the items."
Snoven: @Pachupach exactly
Snoven: @Pachupach they were going to be used for top 3, but now im using them to fund my new account due to the shitposts about me trying to do something honestly good

[quote=pach]Did anyone notice that the account Plotchy used to gloat on SteamRep is named B_Red? It's not B_Red's actual account, but it seems this was the "middleman" used for scams. Is he throwing B_Red under the bus or is it both of them?[/quote]

It was Plotchy's account. I tracked it down. When asked about it, B_Red told me Plotchy had named an alt after him to tease him about something. I was satisfied by that response and the others B_Red gave me when I friended him last night when I was working on my post I'd realized he had left FTC.

Just to let people to keep people informed, Snoven is currently selling the donated items on the Steam Market (for incredibly cheap prices). For instance, [url=http://www.tf2items.com/item/3565832922]here's[/url] a Collector's Backburner which was donated to FTC, and [url=http://i.imgur.com/YUuPyW4.png]here's[/url] a screenshot of it currently on the Market, and [url=http://i.imgur.com/mP3MgJs.png]here's[/url] what Snoven's avatar is right now. Please note that even the name of the item is the same.

He could have owned up to his past and been transparent about his current actions. He'd have come out of this just fine. Unfortunately, he's chosen to view himself as a victim who has deserves to keep the donations. He currently has a Twitch chat going on. Here are a few highlights:

Snoven: @Redditjohnny yeah, and i was, then digresser wanted to shitpost on me before anything happened
Pachupach: "Everyone was mean to me about being a scammer, so I'm gonna keep all the items."
Snoven: @Pachupach exactly
Snoven: @Pachupach they were going to be used for top 3, but now im using them to fund my new account due to the shitposts about me trying to do something honestly good
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#174
13 Frags +

There are some real gems in the stream chat right now.

http://i.imgur.com/2uZzofJ.png

Ah, you're reading it too ^
I am pachupach. it was pretty quiet in there but now it's a flamewar. wooooops

There are some real gems in the stream chat right now.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/2uZzofJ.png[/img]

Ah, you're reading it too ^
I am pachupach. it was pretty quiet in there but now it's a flamewar. wooooops
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#175
20 Frags +

http://puu.sh/gyMbV/1224f24d7c.png

When asked to just donate the money he got for the items he sold

IT FUCKING BAFFLES ME THAT PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE EVEN REAL. WHAT IS POSSIBLY STOPPING YOU FROM JUST DONATING WHAT YOU MADE? I DON'T GET IT.

[img]http://puu.sh/gyMbV/1224f24d7c.png[/img]

When asked to just donate the money he got for the items he sold

IT FUCKING BAFFLES ME THAT PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE EVEN REAL. WHAT IS POSSIBLY STOPPING YOU FROM JUST DONATING WHAT YOU MADE? I DON'T GET IT.
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#176
-2 Frags +

i see him blaming this thread for the fact that he kept the items.
he says that he kept and sold the items because of how he was treated in this thread.

i see him blaming this thread for the fact that he kept the items.
he says that he kept and sold the items because of how he was treated in this thread.
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#177
12 Frags +
Bucakei see him blaming this thread for the fact that he kept the items.
he says that he kept and sold the items because of how he was treated in this thread.

Some of the items are still on the Market as of this post.

[quote=Bucake]i see him blaming this thread for the fact that he kept the items.
he says that he kept and sold the items because of how he was treated in this thread.[/quote]

Some of the items are still on the Market as of this post.
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#178
3 Frags +

Textbook sociopathy.

Textbook sociopathy.
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#179
-7 Frags +
so youre saying you dont bandwagon because you had one thread where you complained about something and then got upset that the bandwagon wasn't on your side for once?

posting whatever you want in any given thread isn't hopping on the bandwagon. this could have literally been me and this idiot scammer going back and forth and that's it. more comments doesn't automatically make something a bandwagon you're just as retarded as that other random good lord

[quote]so youre saying you dont bandwagon because you had one thread where you complained about something and then got upset that the bandwagon wasn't on your side for once?[/quote]

posting whatever you want in any given thread isn't hopping on the bandwagon. this could have literally been me and this idiot scammer going back and forth and that's it. more comments doesn't automatically make something a bandwagon you're just as retarded as that other random good lord
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#180
11 Frags +

http://puu.sh/gyME6/216881a1a0.png

The longer I sit here and read his messages the more bewildered I become.

[img]http://puu.sh/gyME6/216881a1a0.png[/img]

The longer I sit here and read his messages the more bewildered I become.
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