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bad fps? really good computer
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GeForce GTX 970 oced
i7-3770 CPU @ 4.2HZ oc
16GB RAM
1920,1080 144hz
in the demo benchmark with lowest settings and fps config i only get 183 fps while people with worse gpus get 200+ i cant even hold 200 fps constant in 6s fights it drops down to about 140 in 6v6 fights is this normal fps for this good equipment? it seems awful to me i was hoping to get 300 fps constant with this in fights

GeForce GTX 970 oced
i7-3770 CPU @ 4.2HZ oc
16GB RAM
1920,1080 144hz
in the demo benchmark with lowest settings and fps config i only get 183 fps while people with worse gpus get 200+ i cant even hold 200 fps constant in 6s fights it drops down to about 140 in 6v6 fights is this normal fps for this good equipment? it seems awful to me i was hoping to get 300 fps constant with this in fights
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#2
27 Frags +

its time to upgrade

its time to upgrade
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#3
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did you try turning it off and on again

did you try turning it off and on again
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GPU won't affect your frame rate in tf2 unless it's so shit that it bottlenecks your CPU, also it's way harder to get bang for your buck in tf2 in that even a top of the line gaming computer probably couldn't hold 200 fps constantly in a crowded pub while the same computer could put out 600+ fps consistently in cs:go.

That said you're not really getting the performance you should be, check there's nothing weird going on in nvidia settings and make sure cl_threaded_bone_setup is set to 1?

GPU won't affect your frame rate in tf2 unless it's so shit that it bottlenecks your CPU, also it's way harder to get bang for your buck in tf2 in that even a top of the line gaming computer probably couldn't hold 200 fps constantly in a crowded pub while the same computer could put out 600+ fps consistently in cs:go.

That said you're not really getting the performance you should be, check there's nothing weird going on in nvidia settings and make sure cl_threaded_bone_setup is set to 1?
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phraxGPU won't affect your frame rate in tf2 unless it's so shit that it bottlenecks your CPU, also it's way harder to get bang for your buck in tf2 in that even a top of the line gaming computer probably couldn't hold 200 fps constantly in a crowded pub while the same computer could put out 600+ fps consistently in cs:go.

That said you're not really getting the performance you should be, check there's nothing weird going on in nvidia settings and make sure cl_threaded_bone_setup is set to 1?

i have my nvidia settings set to performance and have all the settings at the lowest, i just recently switched from chris max frames to an updated config from here which gave me a 30 fps boost and it has cl_threaded_bone_setup enabled

[quote=phrax]GPU won't affect your frame rate in tf2 unless it's so shit that it bottlenecks your CPU, also it's way harder to get bang for your buck in tf2 in that even a top of the line gaming computer probably couldn't hold 200 fps constantly in a crowded pub while the same computer could put out 600+ fps consistently in cs:go.

That said you're not really getting the performance you should be, check there's nothing weird going on in nvidia settings and make sure cl_threaded_bone_setup is set to 1?[/quote]
i have my nvidia settings set to performance and have all the settings at the lowest, i just recently switched from chris max frames to an updated config from here which gave me a 30 fps boost and it has cl_threaded_bone_setup enabled
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check if your shit is not overheating

check if your shit is not overheating
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DamnEasycheck if your shit is not overheating

my gpu only gets to 60 degrees and cpu about 40

[quote=DamnEasy]check if your shit is not overheating[/quote]
my gpu only gets to 60 degrees and cpu about 40
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close out of background programs (especially Google Chrome if you like extra tabs/extensions)

if you're comparing your system to say mine I have high CPU OC
CPU: i5-4670k @ 4.4GHz (Haswells do better at single thread by about 5% than Ivy Bridge)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87-HD3
RAM: 16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengence @1600MHz
GPU: HIS 6850 1GB

Run in DX 8.1 or "-dxlevel 81"

Try out "No Hats Mod"

Achieve better FPS

close out of background programs (especially Google Chrome if you like extra tabs/extensions)

if you're comparing your system to say mine I have high CPU OC
CPU: i5-4670k @ 4.4GHz (Haswells do better at single thread by about 5% than Ivy Bridge)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87-HD3
RAM: 16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengence @1600MHz
GPU: HIS 6850 1GB

Run in DX 8.1 or "-dxlevel 81"

Try out "No Hats Mod"

Achieve better FPS
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min 140fps is not awful

why u even wanna expend time or energy on this u aint have a problem to solve here man

min 140fps is not awful

why u even wanna expend time or energy on this u aint have a problem to solve here man
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newbie.tf
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ukmmin 140fps is not awful

why u even wanna expend time or energy on this u aint have a problem to solve here man

140 fps= stuttering on a 144hz monitor.

OP, I just play in 720p. I get 150+ on midfights while streaming on my Phenom II cpu. You don't even notice after a little while. Is this a problem only with TF2 or do other programs mess up?

[quote=ukm]min 140fps is not awful

why u even wanna expend time or energy on this u aint have a problem to solve here man[/quote]

140 fps= stuttering on a 144hz monitor.

OP, I just play in 720p. I get 150+ on midfights while streaming on my Phenom II cpu. You don't even notice after a little while. Is this a problem only with TF2 or do other programs mess up?
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#11
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get back to work peter

get back to work peter
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#12
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windows power options--> high performance plan

Lower your resolution.

Try dxlevel 81,85,91,95,98. See which one performs the best.

windows power options--> high performance plan

Lower your resolution.

Try dxlevel 81,85,91,95,98. See which one performs the best.
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#13
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thrillget back to work peter

im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that

[quote=thrill]get back to work peter[/quote]

im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that
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I'm so happy I don't have fps issues, and I'm reminded of it every time I see one of these threads.

And another thing - everybody always says how CPU intensive this game is, but every single time I play my graphics card temp shoots up to like 50 and my cpu stays at like 30. Is it just because I play with max quality and have triple buffering gsync and other graphics card crap going on?

I'm so happy I don't have fps issues, and I'm reminded of it every time I see one of these threads.

And another thing - everybody always says how CPU intensive this game is, but every single time I play my graphics card temp shoots up to like 50 and my cpu stays at like 30. Is it just because I play with max quality and have triple buffering gsync and other graphics card crap going on?
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Chris config?

Chris config?
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ukmif u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that

it would (and does) feel awful

[quote=ukm]
if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that[/quote]

it would (and does) feel awful
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#17
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sound drivers.

all the drivers, make sure theyre up to date

sound drivers.

all the drivers, make sure theyre up to date
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ukmthrillget back to work peter
im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that

At least have the decency to argue your point instead of just insulting him.

There is mathematically a stutter in running 140 fps content on 144hz with vsync, but i don't think any of us here could notice it because it lasts 0.0069 seconds. Without vsync, it's not really an issue at all.

I'm surprised that you can notice a dip to 140 fps honestly. My FPS dips just as low, but it doesn't bother me.

[quote=ukm][quote=thrill]get back to work peter[/quote]

im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that[/quote]
At least have the decency to argue your point instead of just insulting him.

There is mathematically a stutter in running 140 fps content on 144hz [i]with vsync[/i], but i don't think any of us here could notice it because it lasts 0.0069 seconds. Without vsync, it's not really an issue at all.

I'm surprised that you can notice a dip to 140 fps honestly. My FPS dips just as low, but it doesn't bother me.
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smoboukmthrillget back to work peter
im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that
At least have the decency to argue your point instead of just insulting him.

There is mathematically a stutter in running 140 fps content on 144hz with vsync, but i don't think any of us here could notice it because it lasts 0.0069 seconds. Without vsync, it's not really an issue at all.

I'm surprised that you can notice a dip to 140 fps honestly. My FPS dips just as low, but it doesn't bother me.

I can tell when my fps hits 180 or lower... Mouse response just isn't the same.

[quote=smobo][quote=ukm][quote=thrill]get back to work peter[/quote]

im off mahfah

and "kevinispwn" if u think having 4 frames less than your refresh rate is going to cause "stuttering" u need to sit down for a minute and take a think on that[/quote]
At least have the decency to argue your point instead of just insulting him.

There is mathematically a stutter in running 140 fps content on 144hz [i]with vsync[/i], but i don't think any of us here could notice it because it lasts 0.0069 seconds. Without vsync, it's not really an issue at all.

I'm surprised that you can notice a dip to 140 fps honestly. My FPS dips just as low, but it doesn't bother me.[/quote]

I can tell when my fps hits 180 or lower... Mouse response just isn't the same.
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DaStabajwindows power options--> high performance plan

Lower your resolution.

Try dxlevel 81,85,91,95,98. See which one performs the best.

lowering my res doesn't change my fps at all, i already had high performance on and i use the hatless mod dxlevel 81 gives me the most fps

[quote=DaStabaj]windows power options--> high performance plan

Lower your resolution.

Try dxlevel 81,85,91,95,98. See which one performs the best.[/quote]
lowering my res doesn't change my fps at all, i already had high performance on and i use the hatless mod dxlevel 81 gives me the most fps
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I suddenly saw that your card was overclocked, was that factory done or did you do it yourself? Is there some sort of setting you goofed up?

I suddenly saw that your card was overclocked, was that factory done or did you do it yourself? Is there some sort of setting you goofed up?
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I barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even complaining like nobody cares

I barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even complaining like nobody cares
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#23
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ToasterI barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even clomplaining

when you pay money for your stuff and it doesn't perform like you expected it's upsetting

[quote=Toaster]I barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even clomplaining[/quote]
when you pay money for your stuff and it doesn't perform like you expected it's upsetting
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PhunkI suddenly saw that your card was overclocked, was that factory done or did you do it yourself? Is there some sort of setting you goofed up?

i just used msi afterburner and changed gpu clock 1344 mhz to 1480 mhz and memory from 1753 to 1800

ToasterI barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even clomplaining

I'm not complaining i just want to know why some people get higher fps with worse cpu and gpus.

[quote=Phunk]I suddenly saw that your card was overclocked, was that factory done or did you do it yourself? Is there some sort of setting you goofed up?[/quote]
i just used msi afterburner and changed gpu clock 1344 mhz to 1480 mhz and memory from 1753 to 1800


[quote=Toaster]I barely get 100 fps anymore talk less on mid fights. got no problems. appreciate that you can get over 120 constant. Like why are you even clomplaining[/quote]
I'm not complaining i just want to know why some people get higher fps with worse cpu and gpus.
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I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted, if I had spent the money on those (pretty damn good) parts, and they turned out to perform poorly I would be pissed as well. For reference, I have a pretty meh build (AMD FX-6300 stock clock, GeForce 660 stock clock), but get a constant 300+fps with Chris' maxframes. Does your autoexec have anything that might be execing a different graphics config?

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted, if I had spent the money on those (pretty damn good) parts, and they turned out to perform poorly I would be pissed as well. For reference, I have a pretty meh build (AMD FX-6300 stock clock, GeForce 660 stock clock), but get a constant 300+fps with Chris' maxframes. Does your autoexec have anything that might be execing a different graphics config?
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wtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf

wtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf
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zzzzzzzwtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf

actually pretty interesting, was it a hud crosshair or an in game one? and what did it change from/to

[quote=zzzzzzz]wtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf[/quote]

actually pretty interesting, was it a hud crosshair or an in game one? and what did it change from/to
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zzzzzzzwtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf

After reading this I stopped using my animated hud crosshair and my game feels so much smoother.

[quote=zzzzzzz]wtf? i changed my crosshair and that gave 15-20fps boost in my benchmark wtf[/quote]

After reading this I stopped using my animated hud crosshair and my game feels so much smoother.
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