Can we get a link to the current whitelist, not including the ones being voted on? Is it just ESEAs whitelist?
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Can we get a link to the current whitelist, not including the ones being voted on? Is it just ESEAs whitelist?
Lol allowing people in open to have a say
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.
Lol allowing people in open to have a say
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.
r4ptureCan we get a link to the current whitelist, not including the ones being voted on? Is it just ESEAs whitelist?
This is the current whitelist, pre-poll. Any changes made based on the poll will be applied to this.
[quote=r4pture]Can we get a link to the current whitelist, not including the ones being voted on? Is it just ESEAs whitelist?[/quote]
[url=http://whitelist.tf/667]This is the current whitelist[/url], pre-poll. Any changes made based on the poll will be applied to this.
[url=http://whitelist.tf/667]This is the current whitelist[/url], pre-poll. Any changes made based on the poll will be applied to this.
It looks like the CEVO whitelist actually has MORE weapons banned already then ESEA. The soldier backpacks are all whitelisted for ESEA (except of course since the buffs). I feel like the buffs to the Conch won't make much of a different. +2 HP regen per second is actually incredibly slow, and barely noticeable unless you stand out of the fight for a good minute or so...in which case you'd have a medic with you anyway.
Anyway, looks like CEVO will end up having even more weapons banned then ESEA by the end of this.
It looks like the CEVO whitelist actually has MORE weapons banned already then ESEA. The soldier backpacks are all whitelisted for ESEA (except of course since the buffs). I feel like the buffs to the Conch won't make much of a different. +2 HP regen per second is actually incredibly slow, and barely noticeable unless you stand out of the fight for a good minute or so...in which case you'd have a medic with you anyway.
Anyway, looks like CEVO will end up having even more weapons banned then ESEA by the end of this.
Anyway, looks like CEVO will end up having even more weapons banned then ESEA by the end of this.
BenroadsWhy ban the shred alert?
all the vwoom vwoom, swishy thingies, i presume
[quote=Benroads]Why ban the shred alert?[/quote]
all the vwoom vwoom, swishy thingies, i presume
all the vwoom vwoom, swishy thingies, i presume
KarovaLol allowing people in open to have a say
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.
no freedom in the majority of the community
zero
none
[quote=Karova]Lol allowing people in open to have a say
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.[/quote]
no freedom in the majority of the community
zero
none
In what unlocks are allowed. That'll give you some interesting results.[/quote]
no freedom in the majority of the community
zero
none
I would like to be able to vote on the baby face blaster. Making jaguar upset is really important to me, especially in a new league.
I would like to be able to vote on the baby face blaster. Making jaguar upset is really important to me, especially in a new league.
Is there a link to the current votes, or will we have absolutely no idea until the poll closes?
Is there a link to the current votes, or will we have absolutely no idea until the poll closes?
ShadowIs there a link to the current votes, or will we have absolutely no idea until the poll closes?
As long as you are logged in to the website and a member of a current roster that's "ready", you're able to see the results by hovering your mouse over the choices.
[quote=Shadow]Is there a link to the current votes, or will we have absolutely no idea until the poll closes?[/quote]
As long as you are logged in to the website and a member of a current roster that's "ready", you're able to see the results by hovering your mouse over the choices.
As long as you are logged in to the website and a member of a current roster that's "ready", you're able to see the results by hovering your mouse over the choices.
This does seem a little rushed. And looking at this whitelist why are we voting on the wrangler instead of something like the Vaccinator?
Please run a more thorough vote/ban system next season.
This does seem a little rushed. And looking at [url=http://whitelist.tf/667]this whitelist[/url] why are we voting on the wrangler instead of something like the Vaccinator?
Please run a more thorough vote/ban system next season.
Please run a more thorough vote/ban system next season.
Can someone explain what makes the Diamondback worth banning? Seems like it just increases the ability for spy play.
Can someone explain what makes the Diamondback worth banning? Seems like it just increases the ability for spy play.
PYYYOURAll I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
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[quote=PYYYOUR]All I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
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All I see is action from CEVO community members.
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DrPloxoPYYYOURAll I see is talk from ESEA.ftfy
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=PYYYOUR]All I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
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I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
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I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
We want to ban the weapon with a good risk-reward system that relies on skill - The Widowmaker
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.
We want to ban the weapon with a good risk-reward system that relies on skill - The Widowmaker
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.
Who are the other 4 that tried to ban gunboats?
We are the 4%, stay strong.
Who are the other 4 that tried to ban gunboats?
We are the 4%, stay strong.
We are the 4%, stay strong.
LangeDrPloxoPYYYOURAll I see is talk from ESEA.ftfy
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.
[quote=Lange][quote=DrPloxo][quote=PYYYOUR]All I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.
DrPloxoLangeWould the same things be happening without community members?DrPloxoPYYYOURAll I see is talk from ESEA.ftfy
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
That's what i'm getting at.
What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=Lange][quote=DrPloxo][quote=PYYYOUR]All I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.[/quote] What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.[/quote] What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?
FogDrPloxoWhat do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?LangeWould the same things be happening without community members?DrPloxoPYYYOURAll I see is talk from ESEA.ftfy
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.
That's what i'm getting at.
Employees
[quote=Fog][quote=DrPloxo][quote=Lange][quote=DrPloxo][quote=PYYYOUR]All I see is talk from ESEA.
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.[/quote] What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?[/quote]
Employees
All I see is action from CEVO community members.
[/quote]
ftfy[/quote]
I want to make it clear that it's not just the community volunteers doing all the work. We have the full cooperation of the entire CEVO staff. I am in constant contact with Chris Pipher, the general manager, and Mike Stevens has been single-handedly coding the SizzlingStats integration and survey system used in this poll. I also have regular contact with Adam Spangler, senior support specialist for CEVO.
On our side of things, these CEVO staff members and the CEVO TF2 volunteers are in a group Skype chat that we use to coordinate on a daily basis. I can assure you that this is a team effort.[/quote]
Would the same things be happening without community members?
That's what i'm getting at.[/quote] What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?[/quote]
Employees
DrPloxoFogWhat do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?Employees
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=Fog]What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?[/quote] Employees[/quote]
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?
synchroDrPloxoSo you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?FogWhat do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?Employees
Not the point he's making
[quote=synchro][quote=DrPloxo][quote=Fog]What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?[/quote] Employees[/quote]
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?[/quote] Not the point he's making
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?[/quote] Not the point he's making
taggWe want to ban the weapon with a good risk-reward system that relies on skill - The Widowmaker
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.
Has the conch seen any significant use outside of attacking gullywash last?
[quote=tagg]We want to ban the weapon with a good risk-reward system that relies on skill - The Widowmaker
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.[/quote]
Has the conch seen any significant use outside of attacking gullywash last?
We want to allow the item that just changes stats and works regardless of skill - The Conch
2 Health Regen per second, Area of effect speed boost and Health regen from damage dealt is not something that belongs in 6v6 in my opinion. Lets also not forget how silly the Black Box, Conch combo is.[/quote]
Has the conch seen any significant use outside of attacking gullywash last?
FogsynchroNot the point he's makingDrPloxoSo you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?FogWhat do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?Employees
Based on his posts, it looks like the point he's making is that CEVO isn't actually doing anything, the community is. Regardless of whether someone who works for CEVO is actively doing anything or not (hint: people are), CEVO is making changes to the league that people want at an impressive pace.
So, essentially, by calling out the fact that community members are doing the work on behalf of CEVO, he's in effect saying that people in the community are actually able to contribute to and influence CEVO's development - this is good, not bad.
[quote=Fog][quote=synchro][quote=DrPloxo][quote=Fog]What do you think Killing and tri are for ESEA?[/quote] Employees[/quote]
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?[/quote] Not the point he's making[/quote]
Based on his posts, it looks like the point he's making is that CEVO isn't actually doing anything, the community is. Regardless of whether someone who works for CEVO is actively doing anything or not (hint: people are), CEVO is making changes to the league that people want at an impressive pace.
So, essentially, by calling out the fact that community members are doing the work on behalf of CEVO, he's in effect saying that people in the community are actually able to contribute to and influence CEVO's development - this is good, not bad.
So you're saying unpaid, volunteer CEVO members are able to impact CEVO faster than paid ESEA employees are able to impact ESEA..?[/quote] Not the point he's making[/quote]
Based on his posts, it looks like the point he's making is that CEVO isn't actually doing anything, the community is. Regardless of whether someone who works for CEVO is actively doing anything or not (hint: people are), CEVO is making changes to the league that people want at an impressive pace.
So, essentially, by calling out the fact that community members are doing the work on behalf of CEVO, he's in effect saying that people in the community are actually able to contribute to and influence CEVO's development - this is good, not bad.
It is a good thing. But volunteers rarely stick around.
It is a good thing. But volunteers rarely stick around.
another post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team
another post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team
good work team
AloSecanother post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team
blame pyyyour
[quote=AloSec]another post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team[/quote]
blame pyyyour
good work team[/quote]
blame pyyyour
AloSecanother post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team
we fell right into the hands of EG
[quote=AloSec]another post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team[/quote]
we fell right into the hands of EG
good work team[/quote]
we fell right into the hands of EG
Mr_OwlAloSecanother post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team
blame killing
ftfy
[quote=Mr_Owl][quote=AloSec]another post successfully derailed into a fight between cevo and esea
good work team[/quote]
blame killing[/quote]
ftfy
good work team[/quote]
blame killing[/quote]
ftfy
eXtineblendtecDo you guys really want to deal with the battalions backup on KOTH? I know that most of you don't remember why it was banned, but it was op as shit and basically forced on viaduct if you wanted to win. Plus it got buffed since then.
Sorry to bring up ESEA transgressions, but I always thought it was a mistake for them to ban that weapon mid-season.
In my opinion the Battalions Backup being whipped out on Koth_Viaduct week was one of the most significant moments of meta innovation we've seen in TF2. A weapon that no one was touching all of a sudden became a must run and not because of balance changes by Valve... However, "No Exceptions" ESEA flipped the script and banned it half way through the map week, even though it was eXtremely doubtful that teams would have been running it on a 5-cp map.
It's a powerful strategy for KOTH, but should an item really be banned because it's very useful on one map?
Are you kidding? It literally rewarded people for being bad and taking damage. It suggested hey... You get hit way too much.. Let's give your whole team a shield because you suck at dodging damage. That's not a strategy that's a handicap assist button
[quote=eXtine][quote=blendtec]Do you guys really want to deal with the battalions backup on KOTH? I know that most of you don't remember why it was banned, but it was op as shit and basically forced on viaduct if you wanted to win. Plus it got buffed since then.[/quote]
Sorry to bring up ESEA transgressions, but I always thought it was a mistake for them to ban that weapon mid-season.
In my opinion the Battalions Backup being whipped out on Koth_Viaduct week was one of the most significant moments of meta innovation we've seen in TF2. A weapon that no one was touching all of a sudden became a must run and not because of balance changes by Valve... However, "No Exceptions" ESEA flipped the script and banned it half way through the map week, even though it was eXtremely doubtful that teams would have been running it on a 5-cp map.
It's a powerful strategy for KOTH, but should an item really be banned because it's very useful on one map?[/quote]
Are you kidding? It literally rewarded people for being bad and taking damage. It suggested hey... You get hit way too much.. Let's give your whole team a shield because you suck at dodging damage. That's not a strategy that's a handicap assist button
Sorry to bring up ESEA transgressions, but I always thought it was a mistake for them to ban that weapon mid-season.
In my opinion the Battalions Backup being whipped out on Koth_Viaduct week was one of the most significant moments of meta innovation we've seen in TF2. A weapon that no one was touching all of a sudden became a must run and not because of balance changes by Valve... However, "No Exceptions" ESEA flipped the script and banned it half way through the map week, even though it was eXtremely doubtful that teams would have been running it on a 5-cp map.
It's a powerful strategy for KOTH, but should an item really be banned because it's very useful on one map?[/quote]
Are you kidding? It literally rewarded people for being bad and taking damage. It suggested hey... You get hit way too much.. Let's give your whole team a shield because you suck at dodging damage. That's not a strategy that's a handicap assist button
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