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RGL Traditional Sixes Season 3 announced
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April 30, 2020

As we all remain stuck at home, RGL is giving us something to build towards, as the North American flagship league has announced its third season of 6s, with some significant changes. Those looking to join the almost 100 rosters in the process of being formed must have their starting rosters submitted by May 16th.

Keeping in NA tradition, RGL has continued to tweak its proprietary whitelist, electing to unban 4 weapons: The Detonator, the Gas Passer, the Scorch Shot, and the Solemn Vow. The Pyro's new weaponry was allowed in, as RGL stated that players indicated the unbans would have negligible effects on gameplay, while opening potential for new weapon combinations on Pyro. The Solemn Vow, being a more controversial change, was explained in the post as not affecting play at a high level, and not being a substitute for proper Uber tracking.

The controversial point ranking system, that played no small role in Season two's Invite playoffs race, has been traded for win/loss as the primary ranking metric based on post-season feedback. The secondary metric will be the ratio of rounds played to rounds won, with further tiebreakers being handled according to global ruleset.

The season's map pool will see the fabled cp_granary swapped for kevin gator's cp_villa following an Invite-only map cup. Additionally the Invite division exclusively will feature koth_bagel, in hopes that the additional map will help bring variety into the pick/ban selection process of the top division. The map pool for the season is thusly:

  • cp_snakewater_final1
  • cp_sunshine
  • cp_gullywash_final1
  • cp_process_final
  • cp_metalworks
  • cp_villa_b13a
  • koth_clearcut_b14c
  • koth_product_rcx
  • koth_bagel_fall_b7 (Invite only)

Additionally, due to the current health crisis, no LAN has been scheduled for Season 3, however the league is looking to host one "at the nearest available opportunity."

For those wondering about the use of game-altering plugins in the upcoming season, the league is yet to come down on a complete verdict, however the removal of Medic attach speed, is off the table for the current season.

Be sure to check out RGL's original post for more informations and dates. If you happen to be a new player looking for a team to start your journey, consider checking out the Newbie Mixes Team Drive, to join up with like-minded players and mentors and start your competitive journey!

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#1
-34 Frags +
Ireno LAN has been scheduled for Season 3,

Thanks Alfa

[quote=Ire]no LAN has been scheduled for Season 3,[/quote]

Thanks Alfa
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#2
51 Frags +
Ireno LAN has been scheduled for Season 3,

Thanks Alfa

[quote=Ire]no LAN has been scheduled for Season 3,[/quote]

Thanks Alfa
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#3
5 Frags +

-vila + gran -clearcut +blands

-vila + gran -clearcut +blands
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#4
20 Frags +

Worst map pool i have seen in my 11 years of comp TF2.

Worst map pool i have seen in my 11 years of comp TF2.
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#5
4 Frags +

clearcut is a god awful map

clearcut is a god awful map
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#6
-26 Frags +
Krempaskyclearcut is a god awful map

Can the comunity at large just acknowledge koth as a terrible game mode? There has not been a single koth map without MAJOR issues. I am not exactly a fan of the "scouts get to be god for no reason" and "lets run a full time sniper" meta that every koth map devolves into. I challenge anyone to show me a koth map that doesn't.

[quote=Krempasky]clearcut is a god awful map[/quote]
Can the comunity at large just acknowledge koth as a terrible game mode? There has not been a single koth map without MAJOR issues. I am not exactly a fan of the "scouts get to be god for no reason" and "lets run a full time sniper" meta that every koth map devolves into. I challenge anyone to show me a koth map that doesn't.
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#7
18 Frags +

Whys Sigafoo call it Traditional Sixes and not just 6v6? What other 6v6 variants are there?

Whys Sigafoo call it Traditional Sixes and not just 6v6? What other 6v6 variants are there?
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#8
31 Frags +

via and bagel only good koth maps

villa and clearcut are bad, normal cap badlands is bad, fast cap badlands is good, granary is good

via and bagel only good koth maps

villa and clearcut are bad, normal cap badlands is bad, fast cap badlands is good, granary is good
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#9
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funhaver1998Whys Sigafoo call it Traditional Sixes and not just 6v6? What other 6v6 variants are there?

Prolander (joke forced game mode that only exist because sigafoo keeps poooooomping it with money because he desperately wants Engy to be relevant)

[quote=funhaver1998]Whys Sigafoo call it Traditional Sixes and not just 6v6? What other 6v6 variants are there?[/quote]
Prolander (joke forced game mode that only exist because sigafoo keeps poooooomping it with money because he desperately wants Engy to be relevant)
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#10
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yightvia

I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10!

[quote=yight]via [/quote]
I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10!
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#11
2 Frags +

But isn't that 7v7

Anyway bit fucking weird to make a map only available to invite dont rly see the point in that one. Im sure the rest of America is glad they dont have to play that map tho

But isn't that 7v7

Anyway bit fucking weird to make a map only available to invite dont rly see the point in that one. Im sure the rest of America is glad they dont have to play that map tho
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#12
3 Frags +
funhaver1998But isn't that with 7 people

my b i was thinking of no restrictions 6s
Kind of loosing track of all the irreverent joke formats that keep popping up.

[quote=funhaver1998]But isn't that with 7 people[/quote]
my b i was thinking of no restrictions 6s
Kind of loosing track of all the irreverent joke formats that keep popping up.
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#13
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ScrewByightvia I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10!

not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the game

[quote=ScrewB][quote=yight]via [/quote]
I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10![/quote]
not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the game
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#14
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ScrewBKrempaskyclearcut is a god awful mapCan the comunity at large just acknowledge koth as a terrible game mode? There has not been a single koth map without MAJOR issues. I am not exactly a fan of the "scouts get to be god for no reason" and "lets run a full time sniper" meta that every koth map devolves into. I challenge anyone to show me a koth map that doesn't.

hey maybe if we gave koth maps room to grow in a real competitive environment as opposed to once in a blue moon map test cups / random pugs, we might find the formula for ideal new koth maps.
But if only a league were willing to include new maps.. :/

[quote=ScrewB][quote=Krempasky]clearcut is a god awful map[/quote]
Can the comunity at large just acknowledge koth as a terrible game mode? There has not been a single koth map without MAJOR issues. I am not exactly a fan of the "scouts get to be god for no reason" and "lets run a full time sniper" meta that every koth map devolves into. I challenge anyone to show me a koth map that doesn't.[/quote]
hey maybe if we gave koth maps room to grow in a real competitive environment as opposed to once in a blue moon map test cups / random pugs, we might find the formula for ideal new koth maps.
But if only a league were willing to include new maps.. :/
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#15
18 Frags +

give me reckoner

give me reckoner
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#16
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CaptainZidgelhey maybe if we gave koth maps room to grow in a real competitive environment as opposed to once in a blue moon map test cups / random pugs, we might find the formula for ideal new koth maps.
But if only a league were willing to include new maps.. :/

We have been running koth maps every season since viaduct got released in 2009?

[quote=CaptainZidgel]
hey maybe if we gave koth maps room to grow in a real competitive environment as opposed to once in a blue moon map test cups / random pugs, we might find the formula for ideal new koth maps.
But if only a league were willing to include new maps.. :/[/quote]
We have been running koth maps every season since viaduct got released in 2009?
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#17
39 Frags +

also who wanted to unban the scorch shot that weapon is one of the most annoying things in any game ever

also who wanted to unban the scorch shot that weapon is one of the most annoying things in any game ever
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#18
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highfiveScrewByightvia I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10!not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the game

Every viaduct week i get forced into swapping pocket to scout so that the cringe highlander sniper main can play full time sniper and every single time i end up with retarded KDRs while being mediocre at scout. Scout is an easy class and it is even easier on KOTH. Clearly you don't give as shit because you are a psychopath scout main. However i prefer to play the class and position i signed on to play.

[quote=highfive][quote=ScrewB][quote=yight]via [/quote]
I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10![/quote]
not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the game[/quote]
Every viaduct week i get forced into swapping pocket to scout so that the cringe highlander sniper main can play full time sniper and every single time i end up with retarded KDRs while being mediocre at scout. Scout is an easy class and it is even easier on KOTH. Clearly you don't give as shit because you are a psychopath scout main. However i prefer to play the class and position i signed on to play.
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#19
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ScrewBhighfiveScrewByightvia I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10!not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the gameEvery viaduct week i get forced into swapping pocket to scout so that the cringe highlander sniper main can play full time sniper and every single time i end up with retarded KDRs while being mediocre at scout. Scout is an easy class and it is even easier on KOTH. Clearly you don't give as shit because you are a psychopath scout main. However i prefer to play the class and position i signed on to play.

soldier main here!

people who say these things genuinely just have no idea how to play viaduct. demos and soldiers have every chance to have similar or more impact than scouts do.

it's also very stupid to blame the map for your teammate wanting to full-time snipe. unless the sniper is literally hitting every headshot it's not too hard to deal with if the other team is coordinated (hint: try pushing flank!).

[quote=ScrewB][quote=highfive][quote=ScrewB][quote=yight]via [/quote]
I sure do love full time sniper and scouts going 46-10![/quote]
not that this needed to be pointed out but you are obviously bad at the game[/quote]
Every viaduct week i get forced into swapping pocket to scout so that the cringe highlander sniper main can play full time sniper and every single time i end up with retarded KDRs while being mediocre at scout. Scout is an easy class and it is even easier on KOTH. Clearly you don't give as shit because you are a psychopath scout main. However i prefer to play the class and position i signed on to play.[/quote]

soldier main here!

people who say these things genuinely just have no idea how to play viaduct. demos and soldiers have every chance to have similar or more impact than scouts do.

it's also very stupid to blame the map for your teammate wanting to full-time snipe. unless the sniper is literally hitting every headshot it's not too hard to deal with if the other team is coordinated (hint: try pushing flank!).
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#20
-28 Frags +
laz

Bouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:

  1. MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
  2. too easy to play on scout
  3. annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day
[quote=laz][/quote]
Bouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:
[olist]
[*] MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
[*] too easy to play on scout
[*] annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day
[/olist]
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#21
49 Frags +

it takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop bro

it takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop bro
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#22
47 Frags +
ScrewBlazBouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:
  1. MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
  2. too easy to play on scout
  3. annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day

just leave the ground bro

[quote=ScrewB][quote=laz][/quote]
Bouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:
[olist]
[*] MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
[*] too easy to play on scout
[*] annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day
[/olist][/quote]

just leave the ground bro
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#23
-6 Frags +
yightit takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop bro

show me a log (advanced +) for a decently close game on viaduct where soldiers go positive

[quote=yight]it takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop bro[/quote]
show me a log (advanced +) for a decently close game on viaduct where soldiers go positive
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#24
35 Frags +

do you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone via

do you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone via
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#25
31 Frags +
ScrewByightit takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop broshow me a log (advanced +) for a decently close game on viaduct where soldiers go positive

it's about the dub not the k/d

[quote=ScrewB][quote=yight]it takes 2 jumps to get behind as a soldier on via stop bro[/quote]
show me a log (advanced +) for a decently close game on viaduct where soldiers go positive[/quote]
it's about the dub not the k/d
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#26
7 Frags +
ScrewBlazBouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:
  1. MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
  2. too easy to play on scout
  3. annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day

1. Have you considered strafing, improving your jumps, dodging instead of morphing into a pencil?
2. Not if you are bad, please do try to play scout in a high invite scrim and watch your shit get pushed in.
3. Right because snipers are invincible against soldier bombs, demo spam and ubers running at them.

Not sure how you're going to argue 5 invite players on basic mechanics but gl.

[quote=ScrewB][quote=laz][/quote]
Bouncing around like a sudo roamer while getting my ass eaten by 185hp scouts is not my idea of fun.
For me at least its:
[olist]
[*] MISERABLE to play on soldier (getting bodyshot by snipers and having constant full overheal scouts chip me to death on a map with terrain that eats more rockets than badlands mid)
[*] too easy to play on scout
[*] annoying as hell to play if the autist sniper main remembered to take his adderall that day
[/olist][/quote]

1. Have you considered strafing, improving your jumps, dodging instead of morphing into a pencil?
2. Not if you are bad, please do try to play scout in a high invite scrim and watch your shit get pushed in.
3. Right because snipers are invincible against soldier bombs, demo spam and ubers running at them.

Not sure how you're going to argue 5 invite players on basic mechanics but gl.
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#27
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yightdo you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone via

I have voiced my displeasure at the scout dominated meta ever since that cancerous med buff. Koth maps make the situation worse because they are heavily scout dominated and now the med gets to run at scout speed while tanking them full time. This is not fun to play for me as a soldier or medic main.

logan-it's about the dub not the k/d

Its about the fun. Its not fun.

alfaNot sure how you're going to argue 5 invite players on basic mechanics but gl.

I played invite myself already. I am aloud to have my opinion on what i think is fun. Its not about knowing how to play the map. Its about if it is fun to play or not. I don't find to koth meta to be fun because it highlights the things i hate the most about TF2 in the current year.

[quote=yight]do you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone via[/quote]
I have voiced my displeasure at the scout dominated meta ever since that cancerous med buff. Koth maps make the situation worse because they are heavily scout dominated and now the med gets to run at scout speed while tanking them full time. This is not fun to play for me as a soldier or medic main.
[quote=logan-]
it's about the dub not the k/d[/quote]
Its about the fun. Its not fun.
[quote=alfa]
Not sure how you're going to argue 5 invite players on basic mechanics but gl.[/quote]
I played invite myself already. I am aloud to have my opinion on what i think is fun. Its not about knowing how to play the map. Its about if it is fun to play or not. I don't find to koth meta to be fun because it highlights the things i hate the most about TF2 in the current year.
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#28
8 Frags +
ScrewByightdo you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone viaI have voiced my displeasure at the scout dominated meta ever since that cancerous med buff. Koth maps make the situation worse because they are heavily scout dominated and now the med gets to run at scout speed while tanking them full time. This is not fun to play for me as a soldier or medic main.logan-it's about the dub not the k/dIts about the fun. Its not fun.

hear me out bro. If it's not fun to play, don't play :)

[quote=ScrewB][quote=yight]do you think soldiers are supposed to go positive on any map let alone via[/quote]
I have voiced my displeasure at the scout dominated meta ever since that cancerous med buff. Koth maps make the situation worse because they are heavily scout dominated and now the med gets to run at scout speed while tanking them full time. This is not fun to play for me as a soldier or medic main.
[quote=logan-]
it's about the dub not the k/d[/quote]
Its about the fun. Its not fun.[/quote]
hear me out bro. If it's not fun to play, don't play :)
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#29
26 Frags +

screwb has mustardoverlord tier rjs he can't do two jumps in succession

screwb has mustardoverlord tier rjs he can't do two jumps in succession
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#30
-2 Frags +
Dylanhear me out bro. If it's not fun to play, don't play :)

When you are on a team you generally don't get to decide to sit out KOTH week or i would.

[quote=Dylan]
hear me out bro. If it's not fun to play, don't play :)[/quote]
When you are on a team you generally don't get to decide to sit out KOTH week or i would.
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