list of people i want to kill: anthony fantano, mr slin, more
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mintcakeslist of people i want to kill: anthony fantano, mr slin, more
anyone with the best teeth in their game
[quote=mintcakes]list of people i want to kill: anthony fantano, mr slin, more[/quote]
anyone with the best teeth in their game
anyone with the best teeth in their game
HildrethWARHURYEAHyou guys don't understand valve are going over our logs and watching all our games carefully.
I mean look at all the great things that has come from us using the improved whitelist last season:
1. Lowpander
2. Lowpander
3. Lowpander
4. Lowpander
5. Lowpander
6. Muuki
If that doesn't convince you that this is not just a step, but a gigantic leap forward for competitive tf2 than I don't know what will.
Fixed it for you.
great things
That's still up for debate. Maybe we should play-test it for a season before deciding?
[quote=Hildreth][quote=WARHURYEAH]you guys don't understand valve are going over our logs and watching all our games carefully.
I mean look at all the great things that has come from us using the improved whitelist last season:
[b]1. Lowpander
2. Lowpander
3. Lowpander
4. Lowpander
5. Lowpander
6. Muuki[/b]
If that doesn't convince you that this is not just a step, but a gigantic leap forward for competitive tf2 than I don't know what will.[/quote]
Fixed it for you.[/quote]
[b]great things[/b]
That's still up for debate. Maybe we should play-test it for a season before deciding?
I mean look at all the great things that has come from us using the improved whitelist last season:
[b]1. Lowpander
2. Lowpander
3. Lowpander
4. Lowpander
5. Lowpander
6. Muuki[/b]
If that doesn't convince you that this is not just a step, but a gigantic leap forward for competitive tf2 than I don't know what will.[/quote]
Fixed it for you.[/quote]
[b]great things[/b]
That's still up for debate. Maybe we should play-test it for a season before deciding?
With the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.
With the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.
_brianWith the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.
that's a legitimate strat
[quote=_brian]With the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.[/quote]
that's a legitimate strat
that's a legitimate strat
maxc232_brianWith the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.
that's a legitimate strat
Yes. That's the issue.
[quote=maxc232][quote=_brian]With the air strike and quickfix you can have a soldier with 4 rockets loaded and med in their choke on process before the demo gets to their choke.[/quote]
that's a legitimate strat[/quote]
Yes. That's the issue.
that's a legitimate strat[/quote]
Yes. That's the issue.
maxc232that's a legitimate strat
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening
[quote=maxc232]that's a legitimate strat[/quote]
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening
You know what I'm 100% with habib on this now.
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.
You know what I'm 100% with habib on this now.
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.
Yeah, first scrim tonight was with new whitelist weapons and was beyond total garbage. No thinking, no strategy, just people flying around and hoping for the best. I am glad the teams we played afterwards all agreed to just play normal 6's
Yeah, first scrim tonight was with new whitelist weapons and was beyond total garbage. No thinking, no strategy, just people flying around and hoping for the best. I am glad the teams we played afterwards all agreed to just play normal 6's
MalloryYou know what I'm 100% with habib on this now.
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.
give demo two shotguns
[quote=Mallory]You know what I'm 100% with habib on this now.
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.[/quote]
give demo two shotguns
Give demoman a really good shotgun like the reserve shooter and I'll be ok with the rest of this shit.[/quote]
give demo two shotguns
I have given up hope for ETF2L, let's hope at least Samiface and tri_ are gonna be like
https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?
I have given up hope for ETF2L, let's hope at least Samiface and tri_ are gonna be like
[img]https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg[/img]
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?
[img]https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg[/img]
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?
SetsulI have given up hope for ETF2L, let's hope at least Samiface and tri_ are gonna be like
https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?
rewind lan isnt using the new whitelist
[quote=Setsul]I have given up hope for ETF2L, let's hope at least Samiface and tri_ are gonna be like
[img]https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg[/img]
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?[/quote]
rewind lan isnt using the new whitelist
[img]https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg[/img]
Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?[/quote]
rewind lan isnt using the new whitelist
The council has changed the whitelist changes for Rewind LAN within a day, I have little faith in their decisions being long lasting.
The council has changed the whitelist changes for Rewind LAN within a day, I have little faith in their decisions being long lasting.
Vipermaxc232that's a legitimate stratthe fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.
[quote=Viper][quote=maxc232]that's a legitimate strat[/quote]
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening[/quote]
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening[/quote]
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.
maxc232Vipermaxc232that's a legitimate stratthe fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.
The rest of their team will be getting to choke the same time yours does except there's a good chance your team will have a dead demo and they won't
[quote=maxc232][quote=Viper][quote=maxc232]that's a legitimate strat[/quote]
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening[/quote]
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.[/quote]
The rest of their team will be getting to choke the same time yours does except there's a good chance your team will have a dead demo and they won't
the fact that you see zero issue with this is both alarming and saddening[/quote]
kill them, your entire team will be infront of them. Wild theory crafting like this is pointless until people actually play on these weapons and try these things. I predict the solemn vow and quick fix will be rebanned though.[/quote]
The rest of their team will be getting to choke the same time yours does except there's a good chance your team will have a dead demo and they won't
here's my tonight shrimp footage of the quick-fix medic
https://youtu.be/518Dv6VXfyQ?t=217
here's my tonight shrimp footage of the quick-fix medic
https://youtu.be/518Dv6VXfyQ?t=217
https://youtu.be/518Dv6VXfyQ?t=217
I don't get it why are we fussing over the whitelist so much?
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.
I don't get it why are we fussing over the whitelist so much?
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.
pushI don't get it why are we fussing over the whitelist so much?
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.
The same reason I started playing competetive.
I have allways tought that TF2 has too many unnecessary weapons that should just be removed.
In my opinion the game has gotten worse eversince we started unbanning and changing things. I feel like that we're so desperate to please the pub community, we're forgetting what was good and different about the competetive side of the game.
Ye ye its perfectly clear to me why these changes are beeing made.
I'm just a conservative fuck, expressing my opinions.
[quote=push]I don't get it why are we fussing over the whitelist so much?
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.[/quote]
The same reason I started playing competetive.
I have allways tought that TF2 has too many unnecessary weapons that should just be removed.
In my opinion the game has gotten worse eversince we started unbanning and changing things. I feel like that we're so desperate to please the pub community, we're forgetting what was good and different about the competetive side of the game.
Ye ye its perfectly clear to me why these changes are beeing made.
I'm just a conservative fuck, expressing my opinions.
Like I started playing competitive to get away from the chaos and bullshit that is pubbing in this game and now it's creeping its way back for whatever reason.[/quote]
The same reason I started playing competetive.
I have allways tought that TF2 has too many unnecessary weapons that should just be removed.
In my opinion the game has gotten worse eversince we started unbanning and changing things. I feel like that we're so desperate to please the pub community, we're forgetting what was good and different about the competetive side of the game.
Ye ye its perfectly clear to me why these changes are beeing made.
I'm just a conservative fuck, expressing my opinions.
Are there any stream vods of someone using the new whitelist? I've missed everything
Are there any stream vods of someone using the new whitelist? I've missed everything
yeah good idea to experiment for a week
except esea signups end tomorrow and it seems like this whitelist is killing teams
etf2l prem signups have also ended and we have already lost players there too
Scrap this whitelist and re-do the meeting with more structure after playoffs end kthx
yeah good idea to experiment for a week
except esea signups end tomorrow and it seems like this whitelist is killing teams
etf2l prem signups have also ended and we have already lost players there too
Scrap this whitelist and re-do the meeting with more structure after playoffs end kthx
except esea signups end tomorrow and it seems like this whitelist is killing teams
etf2l prem signups have also ended and we have already lost players there too
Scrap this whitelist and re-do the meeting with more structure after playoffs end kthx
it took 2 days to ban the atomizer and base jumper, a day of scrims at all divisions would be enough testing and have plenty of data but people are going to quit over this? rescue ranger and jarate are banned now anyways.
it took 2 days to ban the atomizer and base jumper, a day of scrims at all divisions would be enough testing and have plenty of data but people are going to quit over this? rescue ranger and jarate are banned now anyways.
I would like to put a little post from the Ozfortress League Director Obla
The first meeting, which was held in private, was well structured and followed a set of rules. However, there were only ten or so people there and as such, having a proper meeting was a lot easier.
Yes, we agree that the second meeting was poorly structured and as a result, the discussions that came of it suffered. The idea from that meeting was 'We don't know how it will affect the game, and the only way we will ever know is if we unban it and try it out.' We're currently in the experimental period (a week) where players are just trying it out and providing feedback. We expect changes to the proposed bans and unbans in the very near future. ESEA has already expressed concern over some of the changes already (to be specific, the Quick Fix and Solemn Vow).
We're listening. We're watching. Let the week play out.
I am glad at least the managers of these leagues are not so stubborn as the players on the forums. The whole point of a whitelist is to encourage gameplay of weapons other than the vanilla tf2. I would like to point out the hypocrisy in demanding that certain classes not be allowed variation or direct upgrades but weapons like gunboats or crossbow are allowed which are direct upgrades for the respective classes. Competitive TF2 should exist to shine a light on the players with the highest level of skill, and part of the skill in TF2 is being able to adapt to the many different styles of weapons and ways to play the game. There are broken weapons which should not be used in competitive, I completely agree with that, but the community has no idea how these weapons will impact the competitive scene unless they try it.
I was not around from Season 14 ESEA to have actually experienced the quick-fix unban, but from watching videos and reading what players at the time were complaining about, the vast majority of concerns concerning the weapon have either gone away or changed completely so it is impossible to assume that Season 14 is comparable to the situation now.
As I said before, I look forward to hearing the feedback from this week of scrims and pugs as to whether or not certain weapons will be allowed. The best mechanic for testing the utility of a weapon in competitive is through practice, which is not always as quick as one game also. I have full faith that given the time, the competitive community can decide which way is better for the meta (for proof look to last season with Atomizer and Base Jumper).
I would like to put a little post from the Ozfortress League Director Obla
[quote]
The first meeting, which was held in private, was well structured and followed a set of rules. However, there were only ten or so people there and as such, having a proper meeting was a lot easier.
Yes, we agree that the second meeting was poorly structured and as a result, the discussions that came of it suffered. The idea from that meeting was 'We don't know how it will affect the game, and the only way we will ever know is if we unban it and try it out.' We're currently in the experimental period (a week) where players are just trying it out and providing feedback. We expect changes to the proposed bans and unbans in the very near future. ESEA has already expressed concern over some of the changes already (to be specific, the Quick Fix and Solemn Vow).
We're listening. We're watching. Let the week play out.
[/quote]
I am glad at least the managers of these leagues are not so stubborn as the players on the forums. The whole point of a whitelist is to encourage gameplay of weapons other than the vanilla tf2. I would like to point out the hypocrisy in demanding that certain classes not be allowed variation or direct upgrades but weapons like gunboats or crossbow are allowed which are direct upgrades for the respective classes. Competitive TF2 should exist to shine a light on the players with the highest level of skill, and part of the skill in TF2 is being able to adapt to the many different styles of weapons and ways to play the game. There are broken weapons which should not be used in competitive, I completely agree with that, but the community has no idea how these weapons will impact the competitive scene unless they try it.
I was not around from Season 14 ESEA to have actually experienced the quick-fix unban, but from watching videos and reading what players at the time were complaining about, the vast majority of concerns concerning the weapon have either gone away or changed completely so it is impossible to assume that Season 14 is comparable to the situation now.
As I said before, I look forward to hearing the feedback from this week of scrims and pugs as to whether or not certain weapons will be allowed. The best mechanic for testing the utility of a weapon in competitive is through practice, which is not always as quick as one game also. I have full faith that given the time, the competitive community can decide which way is better for the meta (for proof look to last season with Atomizer and Base Jumper).
[quote]
The first meeting, which was held in private, was well structured and followed a set of rules. However, there were only ten or so people there and as such, having a proper meeting was a lot easier.
Yes, we agree that the second meeting was poorly structured and as a result, the discussions that came of it suffered. The idea from that meeting was 'We don't know how it will affect the game, and the only way we will ever know is if we unban it and try it out.' We're currently in the experimental period (a week) where players are just trying it out and providing feedback. We expect changes to the proposed bans and unbans in the very near future. ESEA has already expressed concern over some of the changes already (to be specific, the Quick Fix and Solemn Vow).
We're listening. We're watching. Let the week play out.
[/quote]
I am glad at least the managers of these leagues are not so stubborn as the players on the forums. The whole point of a whitelist is to encourage gameplay of weapons other than the vanilla tf2. I would like to point out the hypocrisy in demanding that certain classes not be allowed variation or direct upgrades but weapons like gunboats or crossbow are allowed which are direct upgrades for the respective classes. Competitive TF2 should exist to shine a light on the players with the highest level of skill, and part of the skill in TF2 is being able to adapt to the many different styles of weapons and ways to play the game. There are broken weapons which should not be used in competitive, I completely agree with that, but the community has no idea how these weapons will impact the competitive scene unless they try it.
I was not around from Season 14 ESEA to have actually experienced the quick-fix unban, but from watching videos and reading what players at the time were complaining about, the vast majority of concerns concerning the weapon have either gone away or changed completely so it is impossible to assume that Season 14 is comparable to the situation now.
As I said before, I look forward to hearing the feedback from this week of scrims and pugs as to whether or not certain weapons will be allowed. The best mechanic for testing the utility of a weapon in competitive is through practice, which is not always as quick as one game also. I have full faith that given the time, the competitive community can decide which way is better for the meta (for proof look to last season with Atomizer and Base Jumper).
people here dont wanna be good at tf2 they just wanna be good at 6s
people here dont wanna be good at tf2 they just wanna be good at 6s
"ok guys we're gonna try these weapons out in pugchamp/scrims for a few days before coming to a final decision for league play"
i fail to see how this is literally killing tf2
"ok guys we're gonna try these weapons out in pugchamp/scrims for a few days before coming to a final decision for league play"
i fail to see how this is literally killing tf2
i fail to see how this is literally killing tf2
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