http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/02/announcing-twitch-turbo-an-ad-free-experience-for-twitch/
Pretty cool stuff honestly, I keep adblock on when watching streams but the notion of giving streamers ad money as though you were watching them is pretty sweet.
http://blog.twitch.tv/2013/02/announcing-twitch-turbo-an-ad-free-experience-for-twitch/
Pretty cool stuff honestly, I keep adblock on when watching streams but the notion of giving streamers ad money as though you were watching them is pretty sweet.
so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
I just bought it
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vZ4hO3L.png[/img]
miloso i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
[quote=milo]so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?[/quote]
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_nUQImbA2E
This is good, however reading the comments on the official announcement, lots of people don't really see too much value in these little perks to make it worth $9/month. I don't know if I'm going to buy it yet, but it seems kind of meh for the price point.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_nUQImbA2E[/youtube]
This is good, however reading the comments on the official announcement, lots of people don't really see too much value in these little perks to make it worth $9/month. I don't know if I'm going to buy it yet, but it seems kind of meh for the price point.
Matwojmiloso i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers more than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.
[quote=Matwoj][quote=milo]so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?[/quote]
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.[/quote]
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers [b]more [/b]than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.
SteveCMatwojmiloso i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers more than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.
Its a scam
[quote=SteveC][quote=Matwoj][quote=milo]so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?[/quote]
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.[/quote]
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers [b]more [/b]than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.[/quote]
Its a scam
aimSteveCMatwojmiloso i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers more than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.
Its a scam
inb4 johnsfatcock serving up the beatdown
[quote=aim][quote=SteveC][quote=Matwoj][quote=milo]so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?[/quote]
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.[/quote]
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers [b]more [/b]than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.[/quote]
Its a scam[/quote]
inb4 johnsfatcock serving up the beatdown
SteveCMatwojmiloso i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers more than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.
from the twitchtv twitter
Actually, we are literally giving ad impressions since broadcasters receive the impression, had the Turbo viewer seen the ad.
https://twitter.com/TwitchTV/status/298449800137957376
Basically, considering most people adblock every twitch.tv channel, this will be like you're actually watching all of the ads when you're not (and actually giving ad-money to the streamers that are running commercials).
edit: i just went turbo
[quote=SteveC][quote=Matwoj][quote=milo]so i can get everything ad block gives me now for free + some useless features for only $8.99 a month?[/quote]
Its more about supporting the streamers and less about turning the ads off.[/quote]
I don't see how this would benefit partnered streamers [b]more [/b]than just watching a stream normally with ads. An 8.99 ad free service would seem to deter users from purchasing a $4.99 from a subscribe-able channel.[/quote]
from the twitchtv twitter
[quote]Actually, we are literally giving ad impressions since broadcasters receive the impression, had the Turbo viewer seen the ad.[/quote]
https://twitter.com/TwitchTV/status/298449800137957376
Basically, considering most people adblock every twitch.tv channel, this will be like you're actually watching all of the ads when you're not (and actually giving ad-money to the streamers that are running commercials).
[b]edit: [/b] i just went turbo
Just went Turbo, still plan on subscribing to the people I want to support.
It's worth it to give the streamers I was adblocking before extra money, and to support Twitch for giving me the chance to get all this free content, and supporting esports and etc.
Just went Turbo, still plan on subscribing to the people I want to support.
It's worth it to give the streamers I was adblocking before extra money, and to support Twitch for giving me the chance to get all this free content, and supporting esports and etc.
I assume individual streams would get less out of this compared to directly buying a subscription?
I'd rather give a stream or two a $5 sub than spread it so thin that it's worth a few cents. Plus I think most TF2 player streams aren't set up to get ad revenue.
I assume individual streams would get less out of this compared to directly buying a subscription?
I'd rather give a stream or two a $5 sub than spread it so thin that it's worth a few cents. Plus I think most TF2 player streams aren't set up to get ad revenue.
i'd rather give people that run ad revenue something, rather than nothing considering the only thing i've ever subscribed to is probably nasl season 1 and gsl
the variety of streams that i watch all have subscription services, and subscribing to just the ones that i personally watch regularly would easily add up to over $100 a month
i'd rather give people that run ad revenue something, rather than nothing considering the only thing i've ever subscribed to is probably nasl season 1 and gsl
the variety of streams that i watch all have subscription services, and subscribing to just the ones that i personally watch regularly would easily add up to over $100 a month
literally paying $8.99 a month for pinker text
I LOVE IT
literally paying $8.99 a month for pinker text
I LOVE IT
I assume the direct sub options give the streamer at least half of the money, and as far as I know ads give you like .001 cents per viewing.
So, providing that is true, I'd rather contribute to the TF.TV channel instead of buying a coffee once a year for a few TF2 players.
I assume the direct sub options give the streamer at least half of the money, and as far as I know ads give you like .001 cents per viewing.
So, providing that is true, I'd rather contribute to the TF.TV channel instead of buying a coffee once a year for a few TF2 players.
the $4.99 sub gets split down the middle, half to twitch half to the streamer
iirc it's $0.02 cents per ad view and you get paid out @ $100
the $4.99 sub gets split down the middle, half to twitch half to the streamer
iirc it's $0.02 cents per ad view and you get paid out @ $100
Pretty pointless features not worth the price. You can argue it's great to support eSports (which it is), but in the end there's not much that I'm getting out of it. Playing video games isn't an affliction for streamers, they do it because they like it. There's no reason they should be considered charity cases.
Pretty pointless features not worth the price. You can argue it's great to support eSports (which it is), but in the end there's not much that [i]I'm[/i] getting out of it. Playing video games isn't an affliction for streamers, they do it because they like it. There's no reason they should be considered charity cases.
#17
The problem is that street performers are more often hard-up for cash than somebody who has a good enough computer and internet connection to stream well or decently. (Why would anybody want to sit or stand all day in the elements unless they had no other way to make ends meet?) As well, there's more money to be made (if you're good) in street performances than there is from streaming eSports (if you exclude celebrities).
If a streamer is in need of funds, they need to put down the controller and go look for a commercial job or try to do something more sustainable before trying to feed a hobby. The only point where it becomes reasonably profitable is if you do something like WoodysGamertag, who puts out multiple edited quality videos a day, each receiving 200k+ views, in order to support his family while he stays at home to take care of his son who has a host of learning disabilities.
Giving streamers a little pocket change isn't really supporting them so much as it is rewarding them. If you pay their way to cross the pond, like Sal did, that would be supporting them.
As it is, the general streamer is not in need of money, so there's not really a reason that fans should provide them pocket change. Twitch Turbo is supposed to provide more incentive for consumers, but you're really not getting anything worth the cash, so why not keep your pocket change in your own pocket?
#17
The problem is that street performers are more often hard-up for cash than somebody who has a good enough computer and internet connection to stream well or decently. (Why would anybody want to sit or stand all day in the elements unless they had no other way to make ends meet?) As well, there's more money to be made (if you're good) in street performances than there is from streaming eSports (if you exclude celebrities).
If a streamer is in need of funds, they need to put down the controller and go look for a commercial job or try to do something more sustainable before trying to feed a hobby. The only point where it becomes reasonably profitable is if you do something like WoodysGamertag, who puts out multiple edited quality videos a day, each receiving 200k+ views, in order to support his family while he stays at home to take care of his son who has a host of learning disabilities.
Giving streamers a little pocket change isn't really supporting them so much as it is rewarding them. If you pay their way to cross the pond, like Sal did, that would be supporting them.
As it is, the general streamer is not in need of money, so there's not really a reason that fans [i]should[/i] provide them pocket change. Twitch Turbo is supposed to provide more incentive for consumers, but you're really not getting anything worth the cash, so why not keep your pocket change in your own pocket?
my friends street perform for fun lol
no point being talented if you don't use it
my friends street perform for fun lol
no point being talented if you don't use it
#20
It's not comparable to a tip. A tip is given for a service specific to you. I get tips for my artwork because people appreciate what I do for them. I use my skills to make something for them, to their specifications, that I usually do not want to spend my time doing. That isn't really how streams work.
Which is why I said, excluding celebrities. The only way it is ever profitable is if you are very determined, very active, and more often than not, if you are very, very good. That is not most people.
#20
It's not comparable to a tip. A tip is given for a service specific to you. I get tips for my artwork because people appreciate what I do for them. I use my skills to make something for them, to their specifications, that I usually do not want to spend my time doing. That isn't really how streams work.
Which is why I said, excluding celebrities. The only way it is ever profitable is if you are very determined, very active, and more often than not, if you are very, very good. That is not most people.
Why not just directly donate to people and circumvent the twitch process if you don't want to do this?
Why not just directly donate to people and circumvent the twitch process if you don't want to do this?
Foxno point being talented if you don't use it
I don't even know how to respond to this.
[quote=Fox]no point being talented if you don't use it[/quote]
I don't even know how to respond to this.
#22
Chat interaction is not comparable to a fully personalized, customized service.
They didn't stream exclusively, they did something else to support their ability to make time for hobbies.
The money makes a marginal difference if at all, unless you've got a large number of viewers consistently, which you have to work for, and which "donations" will not help you do. Source: I am below the poverty line, and what I make from commissions isn't enough to match minimum wage. I would rather have a job at Walmart, and do art to supplement that.
I didn't say it was worthless. I said it wasn't worth the pricetag. Especially since I can get rid of ads for free. That point is moot.
#22
Chat interaction is not comparable to a fully personalized, customized service.
They didn't stream exclusively, they did something else to support their ability to make time for hobbies.
The money makes a marginal difference if at all, unless you've got a large number of viewers consistently, which you have to work for, and which "donations" will not help you do. Source: I am below the poverty line, and what I make from commissions isn't enough to match minimum wage. I would rather have a job at Walmart, and do art to supplement that.
I didn't say it was worthless. I said it wasn't worth the pricetag. Especially since I can get rid of ads for free. That point is moot.
this thread went from mediocre to fucking awful really fast
this thread went from mediocre to fucking awful really fast
Turbo users count as an ad impression for partnered broadcasters. Having turbo users also leaves more ad inventory available for streamers. This means ad inventory/fill rates stay higher, and streamers make more money.
When you factor in the fact that a lot of regions have an advertising market that is still in it's infancy, this helps significantly for broadcasters with heavy viewership in those regions.
Those that think adblock is the bee's knees: it's very easy for a company to get rid of it entirely. We choose to allow users to have whatever experience they want. That's how we look at it. It's your choice, not ours. We're here to build a platform that allows people to succeed and grow their brand doing something they love.
PS: if you're a turbo user and subscribed to teamfortresstv on Twitch, you can use the emotes sitewide.
seanlange
Turbo users count as an ad impression for partnered broadcasters. Having turbo users also leaves more ad inventory available for streamers. This means ad inventory/fill rates stay higher, and streamers make more money.
When you factor in the fact that a lot of regions have an advertising market that is still in it's infancy, this helps significantly for broadcasters with heavy viewership in those regions.
Those that think adblock is the bee's knees: it's very easy for a company to get rid of it entirely. We choose to allow users to have whatever experience they want. That's how we look at it. It's your choice, not ours. We're here to build a platform that allows people to succeed and grow their brand doing something they love.
PS: if you're a turbo user and subscribed to teamfortresstv on Twitch, you can use the emotes sitewide.
seanlange
TwitchTVJohnTurbo users count as an ad impression for partnered broadcasters. Having turbo users also leaves more ad inventory available for streamers. This means ad inventory/fill rates stay higher, and streamers make more money.
When you factor in the fact that a lot of regions have an advertising market that is still in it's infancy, this helps significantly for broadcasters with heavy viewership in those regions.
Those that think adblock is the bee's knees: it's very easy for a company to get rid of it entirely. We choose to allow users to have whatever experience they want. That's how we look at it. It's your choice, not ours. We're here to build a platform that allows people to succeed and grow their brand doing something they love.
PS: if you're a turbo user and subscribed to teamfortresstv on Twitch, you can use the emotes sitewide.
seanlange
http://bringthetuck.us/rr/the-rock-clapping.gif
[quote=TwitchTVJohn]Turbo users count as an ad impression for partnered broadcasters. Having turbo users also leaves more ad inventory available for streamers. This means ad inventory/fill rates stay higher, and streamers make more money.
When you factor in the fact that a lot of regions have an advertising market that is still in it's infancy, this helps significantly for broadcasters with heavy viewership in those regions.
Those that think adblock is the bee's knees: it's very easy for a company to get rid of it entirely. We choose to allow users to have whatever experience they want. That's how we look at it. It's your choice, not ours. We're here to build a platform that allows people to succeed and grow their brand doing something they love.
PS: if you're a turbo user and subscribed to teamfortresstv on Twitch, you can use the emotes sitewide.
seanlange[/quote]
[img]http://bringthetuck.us/rr/the-rock-clapping.gif [/img]
Why is this such a hot topic? It's completely optional, if you don't think the extra features are worth the $9 a month then don't get it. It's not like they're making it where not having Turbo is going to hinder your stream watching experience.
Why is this such a hot topic? It's completely optional, if you don't think the extra features are worth the $9 a month then don't get it. It's not like they're making it where not having Turbo is going to hinder your stream watching experience.
spring green text or bust
spring green text or bust
I'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.
I'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.
sonnnnI'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.
What ISP/location?
[quote=sonnnn]I'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.[/quote]
What ISP/location?
TwitchTVJohnsonnnnI'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.
What ISP/location?
Time Warner Cable in Hawaii. I called them and they claim they don't throttle my net to twitch.
[quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=sonnnn]I'd be down for this if I could watch streams. I have 30dl/5ul and all streams (regardless of quality) are laggy. Shit don't make no sense.[/quote]
What ISP/location?[/quote]
Time Warner Cable in Hawaii. I called them and they claim they don't throttle my net to twitch.