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Mac TF2 Startup Crash
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This has been happening consistently for several weeks now. I've tried verifying cache, deleting huds, switching to dxlevel 80, using the flushconfig, cleaning my custom folder, everything short of reinstall. Yes, I know, I play on a mac toaster.

Here is the error message after I click "report" when it tells me hl2_osx crashed unexpectedly. (I'm not copying and pasting in here cuz I don't want you to read all that, here's a pastebin)

http://pastebin.com/St71A9mH

I use a Macbook Pro 2011. Dunno too much about that, if you need more info please tell me and I'll try to get it for you.

Thanks!

P.S. on another note, I still don't have my PASS Time Participation Beta Pin. Thx, volvo.

This has been happening consistently for several weeks now. I've tried verifying cache, deleting huds, switching to dxlevel 80, using the flushconfig, cleaning my custom folder, everything short of reinstall. Yes, I know, I play on a mac toaster.

Here is the error message after I click "report" when it tells me hl2_osx crashed unexpectedly. (I'm not copying and pasting in here cuz I don't want you to read all that, here's a pastebin)

http://pastebin.com/St71A9mH

I use a Macbook Pro 2011. Dunno too much about that, if you need more info please tell me and I'll try to get it for you.

Thanks!

P.S. on another note, I still don't have my PASS Time Participation Beta Pin. Thx, volvo.
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>> awkward bump

>> awkward bump
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Blakout74http://pastebin.com/St71A9mH

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqu1pw9vDF1qaslu1o1_500.png

[quote=Blakout74]
http://pastebin.com/St71A9mH[/quote]
[img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqu1pw9vDF1qaslu1o1_500.png[/img]
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newbie.tf
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it's my understanding that the error code "0x00000006" is given when source runs out of memory

it's not really something you can fix. assuming this isn't happening on launch but instead in-game, you can try to get everything to shit-tier graphics + no hats mod + whatever else you can find and see if that works. but yeah, that computer is gonna struggle to run tf2 regardless of what you do.

it's my understanding that the error code "0x00000006" is given when source runs out of memory

it's not [i]really[/i] something you can fix. assuming this isn't happening on launch but instead in-game, you can try to get everything to shit-tier graphics + no hats mod + whatever else you can find and see if that works. but yeah, that computer is gonna struggle to run tf2 regardless of what you do.
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Blakout74dxlevel 80

macs run on openGL, all this will do is change a few commands.

The most common source of mac crashes are lack of memory and thats what your error code is so have you tried opening activity monitor and monitoring your memory (ram) or getting a third party app such as memory clean to monitor your memory while tf2 loads

Setting mac_picmip to anything but 1 or 2 will also cause a crash due to a memory leak bug that has been around since the mac update so turn that down if you have it up.

A restart may also help to clear your caches and possibly free up some more memory.

[quote=Blakout74]dxlevel 80[/quote]
macs run on openGL, all this will do is change a few commands.

The most common source of mac crashes are lack of memory and thats what your error code is so have you tried opening activity monitor and monitoring your memory (ram) or getting a third party app such as memory clean to monitor your memory while tf2 loads

Setting mac_picmip to anything but 1 or 2 will also cause a crash due to a memory leak bug that has been around since the mac update so turn that down if you have it up.

A restart may also help to clear your caches and possibly free up some more memory.
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Yeah, I've restarted the damn thing more times than I can count. Out of memory, huh? So does this mean I need to delete some apps or only run TF2 and nothing else?

Yeah, I've restarted the damn thing more times than I can count. Out of memory, huh? So does this mean I need to delete some apps or only run TF2 and nothing else?
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yttriumBlakout74http://pastebin.com/St71A9mHhttp://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqu1pw9vDF1qaslu1o1_500.png

;D

[quote=yttrium][quote=Blakout74]
http://pastebin.com/St71A9mH[/quote]
[img]http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqu1pw9vDF1qaslu1o1_500.png[/img][/quote]

;D
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KevinIsPwnyou can try to get everything to shit-tier graphics + no hats mod + whatever else you can find and see if that works. but yeah, that computer is gonna struggle to run tf2 regardless of what you do.
[quote=KevinIsPwn]
you can try to get everything to shit-tier graphics + no hats mod + whatever else you can find and see if that works. but yeah, that computer is gonna struggle to run tf2 regardless of what you do.[/quote]
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XenThePybroBlakout74dxlevel 80macs run on openGL, all this will do is change a few commands.

The most common source of mac crashes are lack of memory and thats what your error code is so have you tried opening activity monitor and monitoring your memory (ram) or getting a third party app such as memory clean to monitor your memory while tf2 loads

Setting mac_picmip to anything but 1 or 2 will also cause a crash due to a memory leak bug that has been around since the mac update so turn that down if you have it up.

A restart may also help to clear your caches and possibly free up some more memory.

Thanks! I may have downloaded a mod before that rendered in ultra low textures, but have deleted it; I'm going to mess around with my configs and launch options and see if I can get rid of that setting.

Meanwhile, I've started up TF2 again and monitored the memory usage up to the crash. The thing steadily skyrockets from 40~ mb to 400 mb. Funny thing is, the app I'm using to monitor memory quickly jumped up to 4 GB before jumping back down. At the time of this sentence TF2 has crashed and the application was at around 600~ mb.

2nd Trial -

Upon launching the game, hl2_osx climbs up to 130 mb of usage before "(Not Responding)." Physical memory is at 8 GB and memory used is only at 3.2 GB. TF2 has gone up to 260. And remember, I'm running Steam and Chrome at the same time as TF2, and the memory used is only at around 3.5 GB. TF2 has climbed up to 450 mb. Still not the largest memory hog - but now it is, surpassing kernel_ask at 680~ or so. And it crashes.

3rd Trial -

Launched tf2, climbs up to 3rd place in a matter of seconds, not repsonding. 170 mb. it's climbed to 220, and is slowly climbing at maybe a rate of 20 per 3 seconds. 300 mb, 2nd place on the memory hog list. Climbing still to 353.9 mb. kernel_task is at 673. 400 mb for tf2 now, memory used is 3.6. 480, then 640, and now 660 is tf2, then it reached 683 and crashes. perhaps if it surpasses kernel_task in usage, it's considered too big? there's that large jump from 480 to 660 in 3 seconds, maybe that's what causes the crash?

[quote=XenThePybro][quote=Blakout74]dxlevel 80[/quote]
macs run on openGL, all this will do is change a few commands.

The most common source of mac crashes are lack of memory and thats what your error code is so have you tried opening activity monitor and monitoring your memory (ram) or getting a third party app such as memory clean to monitor your memory while tf2 loads

Setting mac_picmip to anything but 1 or 2 will also cause a crash due to a memory leak bug that has been around since the mac update so turn that down if you have it up.

A restart may also help to clear your caches and possibly free up some more memory.[/quote]

Thanks! I may have downloaded a mod before that rendered in ultra low textures, but have deleted it; I'm going to mess around with my configs and launch options and see if I can get rid of that setting.

Meanwhile, I've started up TF2 again and monitored the memory usage up to the crash. The thing steadily skyrockets from 40~ mb to 400 mb. Funny thing is, the app I'm using to monitor memory quickly jumped up to 4 GB before jumping back down. At the time of this sentence TF2 has crashed and the application was at around 600~ mb.

2nd Trial -

Upon launching the game, hl2_osx climbs up to 130 mb of usage before "(Not Responding)." Physical memory is at 8 GB and memory used is only at 3.2 GB. TF2 has gone up to 260. And remember, I'm running Steam and Chrome at the same time as TF2, and the memory used is only at around 3.5 GB. TF2 has climbed up to 450 mb. Still not the largest memory hog - but now it is, surpassing kernel_ask at 680~ or so. And it crashes.

3rd Trial -

Launched tf2, climbs up to 3rd place in a matter of seconds, not repsonding. 170 mb. it's climbed to 220, and is slowly climbing at maybe a rate of 20 per 3 seconds. 300 mb, 2nd place on the memory hog list. Climbing still to 353.9 mb. kernel_task is at 673. 400 mb for tf2 now, memory used is 3.6. 480, then 640, and now 660 is tf2, then it reached 683 and crashes. perhaps if it surpasses kernel_task in usage, it's considered too big? there's that large jump from 480 to 660 in 3 seconds, maybe that's what causes the crash?
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i play on mac i set it to poop-tier gfx, a lot of the time it doesn't run out of memory because you have no memory left, it'll just error out so i assume its something to do with heap allocation so type -heapsize <blahblah usually 50% of ur total ram> in steam launch params

i use:

mat_picmip 2
r_lod 2
r_rootlod 2
mat_filtertextures 0
mat_phong 0
i play on mac i set it to poop-tier gfx, a lot of the time it doesn't run out of memory because you have no memory left, it'll just error out so i assume its something to do with heap allocation so type -heapsize <blahblah usually 50% of ur total ram> in steam launch params

i use:

[code]
mat_picmip 2
r_lod 2
r_rootlod 2
mat_filtertextures 0
mat_phong 0
[/code]
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no kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GB

Blakout74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAg

is tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load

no kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GB
[quote=Blakout74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAg[/quote]
is tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load
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gatsanno kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GBBlakout74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAgis tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load

tf2 crashes at startup. I'm not sure what to do.

gatsanno kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GBBlakout74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAgis tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load

i will try your solution, allocating heap size seems to be a good idea. Steam Support on the other hand, still haven't received a reply.

[quote=gatsan]no kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GB
[quote=Blakout74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAg[/quote]
is tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load[/quote]

tf2 crashes at startup. I'm not sure what to do.

[quote=gatsan]no kernel_task generally uses like 500 MB or something and tf2 for me uses 1GB - 1.5GB out of my 4GB
[quote=Blakout74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4EHAg[/quote]
is tf2 crashing on startup or during games, i assume TF2 is still loading things if memory usage is climbing that fast and if thats the case i can't really help you other than suggest you lower what it has to load[/quote]

i will try your solution, allocating heap size seems to be a good idea. Steam Support on the other hand, still haven't received a reply.
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Lots of good answers already, but speaking from experience (also have a 2011 MBP), installing a windows partition made my game run a whole lot better (doubled fps, faster load, etc.). The game just isn't optimized as well for Mac.

Lots of good answers already, but speaking from experience (also have a 2011 MBP), installing a windows partition made my game run a whole lot better (doubled fps, faster load, etc.). The game just isn't optimized as well for Mac.
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hmm, nope, allocated the heapsize to 2 gb of mem to tf2 which should have been more than enough, still no help

hmm, nope, allocated the heapsize to 2 gb of mem to tf2 which should have been more than enough, still no help
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>> bumpitty bumpitty

>> bumpitty bumpitty
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Blakout74>> bumpitty bumpitty

Sorry to be a debby downer, but you have a mac from 2011. Don't get me wrong, I am a mac user as well, but your system is pretty outdated. I don't know if you are going to get tf2 to work. Maybe take it into your local computer store? idk man best of luck.

[quote=Blakout74]>> bumpitty bumpitty[/quote]

Sorry to be a debby downer, but you have a mac from 2011. Don't get me wrong, I am a mac user as well, but your system is pretty outdated. I don't know if you are going to get tf2 to work. Maybe take it into your local computer store? idk man best of luck.
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BlitheBlakout74>> bumpitty bumpitty
Sorry to be a debby downer, but you have a mac from 2011. Don't get me wrong, I am a mac user as well, but your system is pretty outdated. I don't know if you are going to get tf2 to work. Maybe take it into your local computer store? idk man best of luck.

yeah, well, worked up till like this summer, idk, might need to upgrade

[quote=Blithe][quote=Blakout74]>> bumpitty bumpitty[/quote]

Sorry to be a debby downer, but you have a mac from 2011. Don't get me wrong, I am a mac user as well, but your system is pretty outdated. I don't know if you are going to get tf2 to work. Maybe take it into your local computer store? idk man best of luck.[/quote]

yeah, well, worked up till like this summer, idk, might need to upgrade
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#18
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Being 5 years old doesn't suddenly give a pc the right to crash programs.

I'll be honest, the easiest fix might actually be to just install Windows or Linux via boot camp and run TF2 on that. You'll probably get more fps as well.

Being 5 years old doesn't suddenly give a pc the right to crash programs.

I'll be honest, the easiest fix might actually be to just install Windows or Linux via boot camp and run TF2 on that. You'll probably get more fps as well.
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I HAVE FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM> AFTER BROWSING THRU A BUNCH OF OTHER PROBLEMS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE SOMEONE SUGGESTED THAT AN EXEC LOOP OCCURRED SOMEWHERE. AND SINCE I AM A NOOB SCRIPTER I PUT exec autoexec IN MY autoexec2 FILE WHICH LED TO AN INFINITE LOOP OF exec autoexec, exec autoexec2. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP BUT I AM GOOD! YAY!

~ happy iToaster player

I HAVE FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM> AFTER BROWSING THRU A BUNCH OF OTHER PROBLEMS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE SOMEONE SUGGESTED THAT AN EXEC LOOP OCCURRED SOMEWHERE. AND SINCE I AM A NOOB SCRIPTER I PUT exec autoexec IN MY autoexec2 FILE WHICH LED TO AN INFINITE LOOP OF exec autoexec, exec autoexec2. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP BUT I AM GOOD! YAY!

~ happy iToaster player
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