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im dropping out of college
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#31
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Most of the things the us sucks at (hospitals, schools, cities) are bad only on average. The US kicks ass if you have money since lots of top schools, hospitals, etc are here.

Most of the things the us sucks at (hospitals, schools, cities) are bad only on average. The US kicks ass if you have money since lots of top schools, hospitals, etc are here.
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#32
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this is a lot easier said than done, but

do not let outside sources pressure you about your life decisions. you should definitely take what friends and family suggest into account in the decision making process because they care for you and want whats best for you, however it is your decision ultimately, and you should be making the decision that is best for yourself, not for others.

i think you should try and finish your degree and take a break afterwards or just end it there. taking a year or 2 off could give you a "clearer" mind on what you should do afterwards whether it be more education or starting a career.

this is a lot easier said than done, but

do not let outside sources pressure you about your life decisions. you should definitely take what friends and family suggest into account in the decision making process because they care for you and want whats best for you, however it is your decision ultimately, and you should be making the decision that is best for yourself, not for others.

i think you should try and finish your degree and take a break afterwards or just end it there. taking a year or 2 off could give you a "clearer" mind on what you should do afterwards whether it be more education or starting a career.
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#33
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eee?

Nah i just am doing a bio/chem double major but theres really no reason to finish if im not going to med school. My gpa and shit would get me in but idk if itd make me happy

why not finish ur bachelors and forget Ur MD program, you will have a bit more debt but a good thing for a back up, even if u go for shitty jobs it will look much better and u might get promoted faster since u have another degree

[quote=eee]?

Nah i just am doing a bio/chem double major but theres really no reason to finish if im not going to med school. My gpa and shit would get me in but idk if itd make me happy[/quote]

why not finish ur bachelors and forget Ur MD program, you will have a bit more debt but a good thing for a back up, even if u go for shitty jobs it will look much better and u might get promoted faster since u have another degree
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#34
newbie.tf
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I was in your position a few years ago and honestly dude, if you don't have much left, just finish your BSc. Like someone else said even a BSc that you never end up using opens up a lot of opportunities. I also went to uni for biology looking to get into medical school and decided I didn't want to sometime around my second year. Did some work in research (many universities have programs specifically designed to help their students get jobs while they're in school - look into something like Co-op, which is a program that starts around 3rd year that basically helps you get hired into internships, with organizations that are specifically looking for college students looking to get experience that have special agreements with your university. Also a lot of labs hire part-time students to do some low-level stuff to give them experience and they tend to pay pretty well, so look into that). But I hated research. Well, hated is a strong word I suppose, I didn't mind it, but I couldn't see myself doing it for more than a couple years.

So I finished my degree and ended up getting a job at the library, who took interest in me because of my BSc. Now I'm looking to get a masters in library science to become a full-fledged librarian because it turned out I really like the sort of people you work with at the library, and the work is pretty satisfying and pays really well.

So... yeah. My recommendation is honestly, just finish what you started, that degree will do a lot for getting better and more interesting jobs.

ETA oh yeah also my grandparents took me on a vacation of Mexico when I finally told them that I wasn't going to med school and spent the whole week non-stop telling me how I should still go to med school because that's what they wanted. It's your life dude, you can make your own decisions about it.

I was in your position a few years ago and honestly dude, if you don't have much left, just finish your BSc. Like someone else said even a BSc that you never end up using opens up a lot of opportunities. I also went to uni for biology looking to get into medical school and decided I didn't want to sometime around my second year. Did some work in research (many universities have programs specifically designed to help their students get jobs while they're in school - look into something like Co-op, which is a program that starts around 3rd year that basically helps you get hired into internships, with organizations that are specifically looking for college students looking to get experience that have special agreements with your university. Also a lot of labs hire part-time students to do some low-level stuff to give them experience and they tend to pay pretty well, so look into that). But I hated research. Well, hated is a strong word I suppose, I didn't mind it, but I couldn't see myself doing it for more than a couple years.

So I finished my degree and ended up getting a job at the library, who took interest in me because of my BSc. Now I'm looking to get a masters in library science to become a full-fledged librarian because it turned out I really like the sort of people you work with at the library, and the work is pretty satisfying and pays really well.

So... yeah. My recommendation is honestly, just finish what you started, that degree will do a lot for getting better and more interesting jobs.

ETA oh yeah also my grandparents took me on a vacation of Mexico when I finally told them that I wasn't going to med school and spent the whole week non-stop telling me how I should still go to med school because that's what they wanted. It's your life dude, you can make your own decisions about it.
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#35
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you can get lab jobs with a bachelors, and a lot of schools offer stipends for graduate students if they work in the school's lab. bachelors is the new high school diploma so if ur gonna stop at least stop there unless youve given up on life then do w/e i guess

you can get lab jobs with a bachelors, and a lot of schools offer stipends for graduate students if they work in the school's lab. bachelors is the new high school diploma so if ur gonna stop at least stop there unless youve given up on life then do w/e i guess
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#36
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If you have the option to do it why not go study something else? I dropped out of university because I hate the first course I did. The year I had off was worse than the first university if im honest. I read up on some other courses at another university and now im studying something i really enjoy.

All im trying to say is that i dont think its worth dropping out. Unless you are really lucky you are just going to end up working in a supermarket or something like that. Either finish your course or go find something else you would enjoy studying.

If you have the option to do it why not go study something else? I dropped out of university because I hate the first course I did. The year I had off was worse than the first university if im honest. I read up on some other courses at another university and now im studying something i really enjoy.

All im trying to say is that i dont think its worth dropping out. Unless you are really lucky you are just going to end up working in a supermarket or something like that. Either finish your course or go find something else you would enjoy studying.
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#37
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How did I know this was going to be an Elliot post

How did I know this was going to be an Elliot post
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#38
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this thread actually brought up some nice discussion and im sure it also helped people who are looking into studying something in the future

this thread actually brought up some nice discussion and im sure it also helped people who are looking into studying something in the future
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BrimstoneHow did I know this was going to be an Elliot post

because it says the name of the person who made the thread below the title

[quote=Brimstone]How did I know this was going to be an Elliot post[/quote]

because it says the name of the person who made the thread below the title
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#40
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Oilfield services companies that do frack, coil tubing or cementing have very good long term career paths. Lots of good benefits ect... If you play your cards right they will pay for all your training which can easily climb above 50k.

Stay away from cooking... it's a deathtrap. You never get out.

Lifeguarding is pretty good if you don't know what you want. Get to hang out with chicks all day...

Take up a trade also good.

Join the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.

Oilfield services companies that do frack, coil tubing or cementing have very good long term career paths. Lots of good benefits ect... If you play your cards right they will pay for all your training which can easily climb above 50k.

Stay away from cooking... it's a deathtrap. You never get out.

Lifeguarding is pretty good if you don't know what you want. Get to hang out with chicks all day...

Take up a trade also good.

Join the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.
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#41
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Ever thought of being an EMT?

Ever thought of being an EMT?
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#42
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pine_beetleJoin the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.

This is actually the path I'm going down. I want to go to USNA, or ROTC. I get free college, a steady job out of college, staying an extra 2 years means the government will pay for my master's degree if I want one. Especially in the US, it's a good path, and could be good for you.

[quote=pine_beetle]
Join the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.[/quote]

This is actually the path I'm going down. I want to go to USNA, or ROTC. I get free college, a steady job out of college, staying an extra 2 years means the government will pay for my master's degree if I want one. Especially in the US, it's a good path, and could be good for you.
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#43
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Tsarbuckspine_beetleJoin the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.
This is actually the path I'm going down. I want to go to USNA, or ROTC. I get free college, a steady job out of college, staying an extra 2 years means the government will pay for my master's degree if I want one. Especially in the US, it's a good path, and could be good for you.

Plus, you get good experience for future job applications.

But, if this isn't your thing, just tough it out for a few more years. You've made it through all those years of elementary school through high school. Get a degree, and be a Physician's Assistant or something.

Tbh, I have no idea what a PA does, but it might fit you due to it being in the same field, and it's not as difficult as being a doctor.

[quote=Tsarbucks][quote=pine_beetle]
Join the army... Not for everyone but I respect anybody that does.[/quote]

This is actually the path I'm going down. I want to go to USNA, or ROTC. I get free college, a steady job out of college, staying an extra 2 years means the government will pay for my master's degree if I want one. Especially in the US, it's a good path, and could be good for you.[/quote]

Plus, you get good experience for future job applications.

But, if this isn't your thing, just tough it out for a few more years. You've made it through all those years of elementary school through high school. Get a degree, and be a Physician's Assistant or something.

Tbh, I have no idea what a PA does, but it might fit you due to it being in the same field, and it's not as difficult as being a doctor.
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being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh
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#45
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eeebeing a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

if you're going for that type of reasoning then dropping out before finishing your bachelors should be a lot worse

[quote=eee]being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh[/quote]
if you're going for that type of reasoning then dropping out before finishing your bachelors should be a lot worse
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#46
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eeebeing a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?

[quote=eee]being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh[/quote]

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?
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#47
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smitteneeebeing a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?

Is it better to never run or take last place?

regardless I could be an MD if I wanted to lmao

[quote=smitten][quote=eee]being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh[/quote]

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?[/quote]
Is it better to never run or take last place?

regardless I could be an MD if I wanted to lmao
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#48
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eeesmitteneeebeing a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?
Is it better to never run or take last place?

regardless I could be an MD if I wanted to lmao

since you're going to college right now to try and be a MD i sure hope you'd want to. If not the case, maybe try a different field you actually want to go in

[quote=eee][quote=smitten][quote=eee]being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh[/quote]

so instead you want to broadcast to the world that you didnt make it past an associates?[/quote]
Is it better to never run or take last place?

regardless I could be an MD if I wanted to lmao[/quote]


since you're going to college right now to try and be a MD i sure hope you'd want to. If not the case, maybe try a different field you actually want to go in
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eeeI dont think im going to do a residency. I really wanna do an MSTP program and go into pure research but idk if i have the resumé for it :(

If you want to do something research related, get an internship or see if any of your professors are doing research of some sort! You can have a iffy GPA and come from a less prestigious school and still look very attractive if you have research experience (nice letters of reference, publications, something to put on your resume, etc). It also gives you the chance to see if it's something you REALLY want to do. You'll probably also get paid to do it. You can do research both during the school year while taking classes (usually for credits or money) and during an internship.

I had a friend who had taken some bio and psych classes intern at a lab that studied ocean creatures in the summer. You don't need to have exact prerequisites for a lot of undergrad research work, and there are a good amount of opportunities for interested undergrads if you ask the right people.

tldr; Talk to your professors. Most professors know people and are happy to point you in a direction. Just tell them you are interested in research!

I know professors can be really intimidating to undergrads, but make the effort anyway! If one professor doesn't have anything for you, the next one might.

eee I just dont think ill really enjoy any sort of work so id rather do something easy and low stress like work in a grocery store or w/e

If you really believe that you can't take another semester and would rather drop out, it sounds like you'd benefit from taking a break to do something else. Have you considered taking a leave of absence and maybe going to do an internship or something else for a semester or two? Going on leave usually means you are still a student at that college and can some back within a certain period of time, so it's a good opportunity to go get some perspective and figure things out.

[quote=eee]I dont think im going to do a residency. I really wanna do an MSTP program and go into pure research but idk if i have the resumé for it :([/quote]

If you want to do something research related, get an internship or see if any of your professors are doing research of some sort! You can have a iffy GPA and come from a less prestigious school and still look very attractive if you have research experience (nice letters of reference, publications, something to put on your resume, etc). It also gives you the chance to see if it's something you REALLY want to do. You'll probably also get paid to do it. You can do research both during the school year while taking classes (usually for credits or money) and during an internship.

I had a friend who had taken some bio and psych classes intern at a lab that studied ocean creatures in the summer. You don't need to have exact prerequisites for a lot of undergrad research work, and there are a good amount of opportunities for interested undergrads if you ask the right people.

tldr; [b]Talk to your professors[/b]. Most professors know people and are happy to point you in a direction. Just tell them you are interested in research!

I know professors can be really intimidating to undergrads, but make the effort anyway! If one professor doesn't have anything for you, the next one might.

[quote=eee] I just dont think ill really enjoy any sort of work so id rather do something easy and low stress like work in a grocery store or w/e[/quote]

If you really believe that you can't take another semester and would rather drop out, it sounds like you'd benefit from taking a break to do something else. Have you considered taking a leave of absence and maybe going to do an internship or something else for a semester or two? Going on leave usually means you are still a student at that college and can some back within a certain period of time, so it's a good opportunity to go get some perspective and figure things out.
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#50
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eeebeing a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh

Not everyone in the medical field once aspired to be a doctor, then couldn't get into med school and decided to do something "lesser". Not everyone wants to be an MD...

If you don't want to go into the medical field then figure out what actually inspires/intrigues/interests you. Finish your degree and it will open up many doors, not just in the medical field.

[quote=eee]being a PA is like being a DO

like idk why you'd ever do that to yrself yr just broadcasting to the world you didn't make it into med school smh[/quote]

Not everyone in the medical field once aspired to be a doctor, then couldn't get into med school and decided to do something "lesser". Not everyone wants to be an MD...

If you don't want to go into the medical field then figure out what actually inspires/intrigues/interests you. Finish your degree and it will open up many doors, not just in the medical field.
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I have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it

I have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it
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I already have $10k in loans and I'm in second year :/

I already have $10k in loans and I'm in second year :/
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#53
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eeeI have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it

Most people aren't very good at anything starting out.

If you like it, you should do it. Most people don't do just ONE kind of job their entire career, and any experience is helpful on your resume. Dedication and hard work usually trumps 'genius'.

If you want to try something else, that's good too. Just don't lock yourself out of a career path you'd be qualified for if you think it's something you enjoy.

[quote=eee]I have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it[/quote]

Most people aren't very good at anything starting out.

If you like it, you should do it. Most people don't do just ONE kind of job their entire career, and any experience is helpful on your resume. Dedication and hard work usually trumps 'genius'.

If you want to try something else, that's good too. Just don't lock yourself out of a career path you'd be qualified for if you think it's something you enjoy.
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#54
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-protoTurinalso proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches younot even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.

your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank_label/sort_order/asc/cols/rank_only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS_World_University_Rankings

[quote=-proto][quote=Turin]
also proto, the US has probably the best university system in the world in terms of what it teaches you[/quote]
not even close actually, I think America comes in at like 20th behind almost every other highly developed nation when it comes to tertiary education. your ignorance reinforces this fact even more.

your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.[/quote]

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank_label/sort_order/asc/cols/rank_only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS_World_University_Rankings
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#55
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dont die

dont die
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#56
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You should finish your degree. You can always apply to law school, personally I think you'd be a good lawyer based on how good you are at trolling teamfortress.tv.

You should finish your degree. You can always apply to law school, personally I think you'd be a good lawyer based on how good you are at trolling teamfortress.tv.
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#57
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eeeIs it better to never run or take last place?

You at least tried if you take last place.
If you never do it, then it probably means you never tried and also too afraid to step out of your comfort zone.

To compare it to your situation, you're in the race already. You can't really "never run." You have to place in your race, or forfeit, but forfeiting makes you look worse than if you placed last imo.

Also, this type of mentality is horrible.

[quote=eee]
Is it better to never run or take last place?

[/quote]

You at least tried if you take last place.
If you never do it, then it probably means you never tried and also too afraid to step out of your comfort zone.

To compare it to your situation, you're in the race already. You can't really "never run." You have to place in your race, or forfeit, but forfeiting makes you look worse than if you placed last imo.

Also, this type of mentality is horrible.
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#58
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if you're going to drop out, be prepared to be asked during job interviews why you dropped out. seeing someone on paper who was able to start and finish something is a major plus and can be a way for employers to tell you can get the job done. if you drop out, you will likely be asked for the reasons why. if you're that closing to finishing your degree, finish it so you can avoid that conversation in future interviews. that's not to say it'll always be a negative factor in job interviews, but it will be a huge focal point when you try to start your career.

if you're going to drop out, be prepared to be asked during job interviews why you dropped out. seeing someone on paper who was able to start and finish something is a major plus and can be a way for employers to tell you can get the job done. if you drop out, you will likely be asked for the reasons why. if you're that closing to finishing your degree, finish it so you can avoid that conversation in future interviews. that's not to say it'll always be a negative factor in job interviews, but it will be a huge focal point when you try to start your career.
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#59
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eeeI have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it

why dont you think you would be good at it?

[quote=eee]I have lab experience and stuff. I like it and I wouldn't mind doing it as a career. I'm just not gonna do it cause it seems pointless to go through all the effort. I don't think i'd be very good at it[/quote]
why dont you think you would be good at it?
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-protoTurin
your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.

you're**
[quote=-proto][quote=Turin]

your a complete fool for thinking your country has better education than say any western european nation even without knowing the official standings.[/quote]

you're**
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