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Euro 2016 - France - Discussion Thread
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#151
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If I was a betting man, cheeky bet on Croatia to win the Euros, excellent footballing side, well drilled - can play direct, can play on the counter, can play possession based, can play a high pressing game and easier route to the final.

Germany/Italy/Spain/France/England in the same side of the draw - going to be a sudden death from the QF onwards, as an England fan we got a decent side and we MIGHT be able to hurt the better teams but we got to be a lot more clinical, strikers like Kane/Vardy we bigged up need to deliver - still as long as we play attacking football and with passion, I don't mind.

If I was a betting man, cheeky bet on Croatia to win the Euros, excellent footballing side, well drilled - can play direct, can play on the counter, can play possession based, can play a high pressing game and easier route to the final.

Germany/Italy/Spain/France/England in the same side of the draw - going to be a sudden death from the QF onwards, as an England fan we got a decent side and we MIGHT be able to hurt the better teams but we got to be a lot more clinical, strikers like Kane/Vardy we bigged up need to deliver - still as long as we play attacking football and with passion, I don't mind.
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#152
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I've only watched the Portugal games and honestly I think everyone would play so much better if they weren't waiting on Ronaldo to do everything. Including Ronaldo himself.

Also the team could use a pure striker.

I've only watched the Portugal games and honestly I think everyone would play so much better if they weren't waiting on Ronaldo to do everything. Including Ronaldo himself.

Also the team could use a pure striker.
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#153
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YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE
YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE
YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE

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YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE
YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE
YOUR DEFENSE IS TERRIFIED WHEN WILL GRIGGS ON FIRE

NAA NAA NA NAAA NANANANAAA NAAAA NAAA
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#154
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dzsudzsák a legjobb!!! =D

dzsudzsák a legjobb!!! =D
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#155
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Croatia <3 Loved how they played yesterday! If we continue playing well we can win the whole thing!

Portugal just didn't want to lose today! They earned their way to the next round.

Some more big matches being played right now!

Croatia <3 Loved how they played yesterday! If we continue playing well we can win the whole thing!

Portugal just didn't want to lose today! They earned their way to the next round.

Some more big matches being played right now!
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#156
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Holy sheeet that heel shot! PORTUGAL GO! IRELAND GO!

A good day for football!

Holy sheeet that heel shot! PORTUGAL GO! IRELAND GO!

A good day for football!
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#157
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Good match, both played well and could have taken it with good play from both sid- oh who am I kidding WHAT UP NOW SWEDES WOO

Good match, both played well and could have taken it with good play from both sid- oh who am I kidding WHAT UP NOW SWEDES WOO
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#158
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fuck you Russia Im so glad I had fever and couldn't see your ass got drenched by Wales, otherwise I'd probably kill myself right after this match
props to Croatia btw

fuck you Russia Im so glad I had fever and couldn't see your ass got drenched by Wales, otherwise I'd probably kill myself right after this match
props to Croatia btw
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#159
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Croatia looks really solid so far. Hopefully gonna make it far in the tournament.

Croatia looks really solid so far. Hopefully gonna make it far in the tournament.
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#160
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Portugal got so lucky haha, going through the next round without having won a single game.
One side of the tournament is so easy now, freeway for Belgium, Croatia and Poland, one of these nations is going to the final.
Spain, Italy, Germany, England and France on the same side, thanks big teams for choking at lan.

Portugal got so lucky haha, going through the next round without having won a single game.
One side of the tournament is so easy now, freeway for Belgium, Croatia and Poland, one of these nations is going to the final.
Spain, Italy, Germany, England and France on the same side, thanks big teams for choking at lan.
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#161
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What are you talking about? Portugal got unlucky if anything for playing better in all games but coming out with draws every time. There have been much worse third places in the groups.

Don't know what makes you think Belgium and Croatia are stronger than Hungary and Portugal but they aren't.

What are you talking about? Portugal got unlucky if anything for playing better in all games but coming out with draws every time. There have been much worse third places in the groups.

Don't know what makes you think Belgium and Croatia are stronger than Hungary and Portugal but they aren't.
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#162
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CROATIA TO POUND LET'S GO

CROATIA TO POUND LET'S GO
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#163
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Portugal to pull a Greece and go through with draws, only winning on penalties

Portugal to pull a Greece and go through with draws, only winning on penalties
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#164
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Belgium Germany finals
germany to walk all over belgium for the 2nd time in history

Belgium Germany finals
germany to walk all over belgium for the 2nd time in history
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#165
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atmBelgium Germany finals
germany to walk all over belgium for the 2nd time in history

*third

[quote=atm]Belgium Germany finals
germany to walk all over belgium for the 2nd time in history[/quote]
*third
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#166
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we're used to it at this point

we're used to it at this point
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#167
4 Frags +

CHOKE OF A CENTURY CHOKE OF A CENTURY

BibleThump

CHOKE OF A CENTURY CHOKE OF A CENTURY

BibleThump
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#168
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http://puu.sh/pFV1q/b6def6708f.png

:)

[img]http://puu.sh/pFV1q/b6def6708f.png[/img]
:)
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#169
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It is a sad time when a team can go through by drawing every game but the team that knocks out the holder's goes out

It is a sad time when a team can go through by drawing every game but the team that knocks out the holder's goes out
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#170
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Croatia with a choke of a LIFETIME
They could easily get 2 goals at least if they wouldn't choke

Croatia with a choke of a LIFETIME
They could easily get 2 goals at least if they wouldn't choke
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#171
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I was telling a friend that I had a hunch Portugal would pass on pure dumb luck. That friend is Polish. Gonna be a fun quarter final.

Croatia deserved better than this, I'm sorry boys

I was telling a friend that I had a hunch Portugal would pass on pure dumb luck. That friend is Polish. Gonna be a fun quarter final.

Croatia deserved better than this, I'm sorry boys
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#172
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I wouldn't call it dumb luck. This was probably portugal's best game strategically so far even if the first half was boring and it wasn't nearly as exciting as the previous one. They countered croatia really well and choked them hard for 2 hours, while still pressuring them but without overextending (for the most part). Some mistake was bound to happen and so it did.

I wouldn't call it dumb luck. This was probably portugal's best game strategically so far even if the first half was boring and it wasn't nearly as exciting as the previous one. They countered croatia really well and choked them hard for 2 hours, while still pressuring them but without overextending (for the most part). Some mistake was bound to happen and so it did.
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#173
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Considering that Croatia had more goal chances and we didn't get to see Portugal's game plan for if they scored, I'd say it was pretty lucky. The goal play starts with a post shot on the other end.

Considering that Croatia had more goal chances and we didn't get to see Portugal's game plan for if they scored, I'd say it was pretty lucky. The goal play starts with a post shot on the other end.
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#174
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How does that make it lucky? It was a well-executed counterattack over the whole field, that's like the opposite of a luck shot. Sanchez did great prep, Ronaldo hit a good shot and Quaresma was there at the right time. It was good coordination. It's not like the ball was in Croatia's area and someone just hit a random shot.

Portugal always had more goal chances than any other team in all the first games and still didn't score, often due to unorganized play. This time there was a plan to shut down croatia and they went through with it successfully.

How does that make it lucky? It was a well-executed counterattack over the whole field, that's like the opposite of a luck shot. Sanchez did great prep, Ronaldo hit a good shot and Quaresma was there at the right time. It was good coordination. It's not like the ball was in Croatia's area and someone just hit a random shot.

Portugal always had more goal chances than any other team in all the first games and still didn't score, often due to unorganized play. This time there was a plan to shut down croatia and they went through with it successfully.
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#175
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Turn up to the slovakia vs germany match on sunday and a rematch on monday @twitch.tv/teamfortresstv.

Turn up to the slovakia vs germany match on sunday and a rematch on monday @twitch.tv/teamfortresstv.
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#176
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Honestly I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal, or they just let their blind hate for Ronaldo get in the way, if anything we've been under performing the whole tournament, we have the best player in Europe in our team and we have a stacked midfield and a very experienced defense. This game was a very good example of that, although it was a snooze fest for most of the game our defense was top notch and we played very smart through it.

We've probably been the most unlucky team so far in the whole tournament despite having the most attempts in the whole tournament through the group phase we didn't manage to win a single game, and in the game vs Hungary alone we managed to concede 2 very unlucky deflected goals in like 10 mins. Maybe we didn't even deserve this win this game but so far from what we've done the whole tournament I think that compensates for the lack of luck we've been having.

Pepe played a beast match defensively, what a world class defender, and Ronaldo did his job perfectly, if you consider he had like 3 players marking him every time he touched the ball and he had brilliant positioning for the winning goal, and Quaresma, so unpredictable, both in a good and bad way, but it worked out this game. Props to Nani pass as well which was one of the best passes I've seen in this whole tournament so far. And also Renato Sanches (not Sanchez pls :D) composure in the counter attack. https://streamable.com/l9pk

Everyone was so confident Croatia was gonna go through after they convincingly beat Spain but Im just happy we're here to stay and I am confident we can go through to the final.

Honestly I think a lot of people underestimate Portugal, or they just let their blind hate for Ronaldo get in the way, if anything we've been under performing the whole tournament, we have the best player in Europe in our team and we have a stacked midfield and a very experienced defense. This game was a very good example of that, although it was a snooze fest for most of the game our defense was top notch and we played very smart through it.

We've probably been the most unlucky team so far in the whole tournament despite having the most attempts in the whole tournament through the group phase we didn't manage to win a single game, and in the game vs Hungary alone we managed to concede 2 very unlucky deflected goals in like 10 mins. Maybe we didn't even deserve this win this game but so far from what we've done the whole tournament I think that compensates for the lack of luck we've been having.

Pepe played a beast match defensively, what a world class defender, and Ronaldo did his job perfectly, if you consider he had like 3 players marking him every time he touched the ball and he had brilliant positioning for the winning goal, and Quaresma, so unpredictable, both in a good and bad way, but it worked out this game. Props to Nani pass as well which was one of the best passes I've seen in this whole tournament so far. And also Renato Sanches [i](not Sanchez pls :D) [/i] composure in the counter attack. https://streamable.com/l9pk

Everyone was so confident Croatia was gonna go through after they convincingly beat Spain but Im just happy we're here to stay and I am confident we can go through to the final.
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#177
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KanecoWe've probably been the most unlucky team so far in the whole tournament despite having the most attempts in the whole tournament through the group phase we didn't manage to win a single game, and in the game vs Hungary alone we managed to concede 2 very unlucky deflected goals in like 10 mins. Maybe we didn't even deserve this win this game but so far from what we've done the whole tournament I think that compensates for the lack of luck we've been having.

If you have a lot of attempts but still dont manage to win games, it's not lack of luck i'm sorry. And if you consider the 30+ shots Ronaldo had in the tournament as attempts, there's nothing i can do for you. SHooting a freekick in the wall isn't an attempt.
People aren't not underestimating Portugal, they just say what they see : despite having good forwards, Portugal can't seem to find any solutions while attacking. I find the midfield very poor in terms of creativity, and their defense isn't as solid as you might think, considering how many goals and occasions they conceded since the beginning of the Euro.

Croatia had a better tournament, but it's not always the best team that wins. Portugal should go to the semis tho, I don't see Poland steeping up their game (hoping to be wrong :) ).

[quote=Kaneco]We've probably been the most unlucky team so far in the whole tournament despite having the most attempts in the whole tournament through the group phase we didn't manage to win a single game, and in the game vs Hungary alone we managed to concede 2 very unlucky deflected goals in like 10 mins. Maybe we didn't even deserve this win this game but so far from what we've done the whole tournament I think that compensates for the lack of luck we've been having.
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If you have a lot of attempts but still dont manage to win games, it's not lack of luck i'm sorry. And if you consider the 30+ shots Ronaldo had in the tournament as attempts, there's nothing i can do for you. SHooting a freekick in the wall isn't an attempt.
People aren't not underestimating Portugal, they just say what they see : despite having good forwards, Portugal can't seem to find any solutions while attacking. I find the midfield very poor in terms of creativity, and their defense isn't as solid as you might think, considering how many goals and occasions they conceded since the beginning of the Euro.

Croatia had a better tournament, but it's not always the best team that wins. Portugal should go to the semis tho, I don't see Poland steeping up their game (hoping to be wrong :) ).
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#178
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Your arguments make no sense. When Portugal scores or wins a game you comment how lucky they got. When someone comments how unlucky they were to concede unpredictable reflect goals you comment "If you have a lot of attempts but still dont manage to win games, it's not lack of luck i'm sorry". But Croatia's loss apparently was due to bad luck according to you.

Your argument is just as smart as saying "If your opponents have a lot of attempts and you manage not to lose game, it's not luck, I'm sorry". By your own logic Portugal played a superior game against croatia.

Portugal hasnt not managed to win any games. They won one just yesterday and went undefeated throughout the group stage. Croatia didn't and Croatia lost. Deal with it.

Your arguments make no sense. When Portugal scores or wins a game you comment how lucky they got. When someone comments how unlucky they were to concede unpredictable reflect goals you comment "If you have a lot of attempts but still dont manage to win games, it's not lack of luck i'm sorry". But Croatia's loss apparently was due to bad luck according to you.

Your argument is just as smart as saying "If your opponents have a lot of attempts and you manage not to lose game, it's not luck, I'm sorry". By your own logic Portugal played a superior game against croatia.

Portugal hasnt not managed to win any games. They won one just yesterday and went undefeated throughout the group stage. Croatia didn't and Croatia lost. Deal with it.
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#179
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Did I say Portugal was lucky to win ? I don't think so.
I didn't talk about the game between Croatia and Portugal btw. Yesterday's game could have gone either way, and it went for Portugal, good for them.

You talk like going undefeated in a group composed with Austria, Hungary and Iceland was an outstanding performance. I think we all agree that Portugal should have won these games "on the paper", but they didn't not because of bad luck, but because they played poorly in front of the goals.

I don't hold any grudge against Portugal, I just think people overlook their weaknesses just because they have Ronaldo in the squad.

Did I say Portugal was lucky to win ? I don't think so.
I didn't talk about the game between Croatia and Portugal btw. Yesterday's game could have gone either way, and it went for Portugal, good for them.

You talk like going undefeated in a group composed with Austria, Hungary and Iceland was an outstanding performance. I think we all agree that Portugal should have won these games "on the paper", but they didn't not because of bad luck, but because they played poorly in front of the goals.

I don't hold any grudge against Portugal, I just think people overlook their weaknesses just because they have Ronaldo in the squad.
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#180
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Well you said they were lucky to advance, which really, they weren't, Ronaldo just played extremely well that game.

I'm not saying the group stage was an outstanding performance at all. I'm very aware that a draw against Austria is not a good result for Portugal. But I'm really glad that they played the way they did in the last game even though it was boring for almost 2 hours because it means they got their tactics together as opposed to the group stage. Defense was rock solid and at least once there was a true combination where good positioning, and Ronaldo's and Sanches' individual skills worked together and this gives me hope that Portugal will continue this kind of play in the upcoming rounds.

Group stage was def dodgy for Portugal but I do believe that they outclassed iceland and austria on the field in all aspects of the game except the one that matters most, scoring goals.
I also still believe that hungary played stronger than Croatia overall so far. Thus I contest your notion that Portugal doesn't deserve to be in the quarters over Croatia.

Well you said they were lucky to advance, which really, they weren't, Ronaldo just played extremely well that game.

I'm not saying the group stage was an outstanding performance at all. I'm very aware that a draw against Austria is not a good result for Portugal. But I'm really glad that they played the way they did in the last game even though it was boring for almost 2 hours because it means they got their tactics together as opposed to the group stage. Defense was rock solid and at least once there was a true combination where good positioning, and Ronaldo's and Sanches' individual skills worked together and this gives me hope that Portugal will continue this kind of play in the upcoming rounds.

Group stage was def dodgy for Portugal but I do believe that they outclassed iceland and austria on the field in all aspects of the game except the one that matters most, scoring goals.
I also still believe that hungary played stronger than Croatia overall so far. Thus I contest your notion that Portugal doesn't deserve to be in the quarters over Croatia.
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