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Raptor cut from Planet Express
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#31
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It's not tftv style to do an editorial rather than a news post, but if it was I'd label this piece:

SCAPEGOAT OF THE SEASON

It's not tftv style to do an editorial rather than a news post, but if it was I'd label this piece:

SCAPEGOAT OF THE SEASON
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#32
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Get nuze on demo and me on med and it will all be ok.....

Get nuze on demo and me on med and it will all be ok.....
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#33
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schockydedicated to improving =/= improving

It really is quite hilarious to see that after some years you now came to realize that this applies when it seemed it didn´t when your girlfriend wanted to actually play soldier for the national team for germany back in the days ( which you wanted too :D ). I do understand that you have a personal bias on that topic and that you are pussy whipped but what I would want you to do is stop being a hypocrite.

Raptor isn´t a medic that was born into greatness but has immense potenial to be on of the top five medics in EU TF2 in < 1 year. He´s already shown that he has improved and tthat he has the right mindset to be able to handle top tier tf2. The problem that he is facing at this moment of his career is a very common that has to do with our very little player base at the top. Whilst he is very keen to "relearn" the game from higher skilled players those players in his team are now people like sheepy and zoob. Sheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute. If you add to this that his demoman is the worst in premiership you could say that the conditions are neither perfect nor good. What would need to happen is for an already existing premiership team to pick up Raptor and make him not maincall.

Let him develop within the team and find his role which would result in him not trying to be or even having to be (?) the maincaller with very limited experience in his current competitve sourrounding. It makes more sense to me to try to develop a player and make him your perfect medic bitch boy instead of cutting people due to performance issues within a team that will or will have to reform itself every season.

I would recommend everyone that is trying to form a good new team contesting low to mid prem but def winning high to pick up raptor ( pls dont pick him up on soldier - we need medics!) , put some effort into him and you will have a benefit in the long run. At the end of the day you can say that medic is the class where the smallest mistakes are the most punishable and influencial and thats why Raptor looks kind of shaky at times. Remember ,a fish rots from the head down.

peace

edit: I´ve cut people in the past and in teams I´ve led always and only for the reason of not showing the right ammount of effort. I´ve spent countless hours with maindemos, medics, roamers going over their demos - drawing ms paint cp_badlands last holds for people that didn´t speak english well enough so I am not talking nonsense when I am saying that you can mold players arround your team. More than often it comes down if the team is willing to put in the effort

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[quote=schocky]dedicated to improving =/= improving[/quote]

It really is quite hilarious to see that after some years you now came to realize that this applies when it seemed it didn´t when your girlfriend wanted to actually play soldier for the national team for germany back in the days ( which you wanted too :D ). I do understand that you have a personal bias on that topic and that you are pussy whipped but what I would want you to do is stop being a hypocrite.

Raptor isn´t a medic that was born into greatness but has immense potenial to be on of the top five medics in EU TF2 in < 1 year. He´s already shown that he has improved and tthat he has the right mindset to be able to handle top tier tf2. The problem that he is facing at this moment of his career is a very common that has to do with our very little player base at the top. Whilst he is very keen to "relearn" the game from higher skilled players those players in his team are now people like sheepy and zoob. Sheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute. If you add to this that his demoman is the worst in premiership you could say that the conditions are neither perfect nor good. What would need to happen is for an already existing premiership team to pick up Raptor and make him not maincall.

Let him develop within the team and find his role which would result in him not trying to be or even having to be (?) the maincaller with very limited experience in his current competitve sourrounding. It makes more sense to me to try to develop a player and make him your perfect medic bitch boy instead of cutting people due to performance issues within a team that will or will have to reform itself every season.

I would recommend everyone that is trying to form a good new team contesting low to mid prem but def winning high to pick up raptor ( pls dont pick him up on soldier - we need medics!) , put some effort into him and you will have a benefit in the long run. At the end of the day you can say that medic is the class where the smallest mistakes are the most punishable and influencial and thats why Raptor looks kind of shaky at times. Remember ,a fish rots from the head down.

peace

edit: I´ve cut people in the past and in teams I´ve led always and only for the reason of not showing the right ammount of effort. I´ve spent countless hours with maindemos, medics, roamers going over their demos - drawing ms paint cp_badlands last holds for people that didn´t speak english well enough so I am not talking nonsense when I am saying that you can mold players arround your team. More than often it comes down if the team is willing to put in the effort

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#34
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your name suits you pretty well.

your name suits you pretty well.
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#35
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ipz use space please, i can't read this wall

ipz use space please, i can't read this wall
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#36
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@ipz ask byte, i am sure he can agree on that. there are people who need that help so they can focus on their aim.
could you copy paste the comment please where i said that you cannot mould players around a team or where i said that raptor hasn't improved?

to be honest i have no idea why you are always want to start a bitchfight... aren't you supposed to be adult (and father)?

i know for a fact that you take this game way too srsly and even shout at your teammates if they aren't listening for a sec. try having fun please. if you want to bitchfight, feel free to re-add me.

@ipz ask byte, i am sure he can agree on that. there are people who need that help so they can focus on their aim.
could you copy paste the comment please where i said that you cannot mould players around a team or where i said that raptor hasn't improved?

to be honest i have no idea why you are always want to start a bitchfight... aren't you supposed to be adult (and father)?

i know for a fact that you take this game way too srsly and even shout at your teammates if they aren't listening for a sec. try having fun please. if you want to bitchfight, feel free to re-add me.
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#38
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CYKAZKidIpzschockydedicated to improving =/= improving
Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

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ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth

woooh chill

[quote=CYKAZ][quote=KidIpz][quote=schocky]dedicated to improving =/= improving[/quote]

Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

edit#2: spaces for dmoule[/quote]

ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth[/quote]

woooh chill
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#39
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Im no the one in here telling people what improvement means and why effort doesnt mean they will ever become good :D Stefan it really is you not being and adult and having a go on matter you actually know very little about ( playing with or against Raptor). My personal life also has nothing to do with this matter as we are arguing on a video gaming board so what is your point. Im neither attacking you personally nor am I making up points that aren´t valid thus I also don´t see how i am behaving as if im not an adult or my nickname suiting me.

edit: Well this now turns into a personal attack when we are discussing esport players performance issues. I had my fair share of this tonight. I wish all the best to Planet Express and Raptor in their future tf2 adventures. Good night

Im no the one in here telling people what improvement means and why effort doesnt mean they will ever become good :D Stefan it really is you not being and adult and having a go on matter you actually know very little about ( playing with or against Raptor). My personal life also has nothing to do with this matter as we are arguing on a video gaming board so what is your point. Im neither attacking you personally nor am I making up points that aren´t valid thus I also don´t see how i am behaving as if im not an adult or my nickname suiting me.

edit: Well this now turns into a personal attack when we are discussing esport players performance issues. I had my fair share of this tonight. I wish all the best to Planet Express and Raptor in their future tf2 adventures. Good night
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#40
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holy shit german drama

holy shit german drama
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#41
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+1 to ipz honestly. There are 3 completely unproven players in planet express all playing in/around the combo, the only experienced head there is not particularly vocal so I have no idea how they expected to see real results this fast. Team got completely carried away with some promising scrim results, and are now learning the hard way that scrims are just scrims. Since Nursey is available this might actually work in the short term now, but it's pure dumb luck since this became apparent after the fact. The team + raptor had a lot of promise as it was, just needed more patience and modesty.

edit: uuuh, +1 to ipz' point about planet express. I dunno about this german drama...

+1 to ipz honestly. There are 3 completely unproven players in planet express all playing in/around the combo, the only experienced head there is not particularly vocal so I have no idea how they expected to see real results this fast. Team got completely carried away with some promising scrim results, and are now learning the hard way that scrims are just scrims. Since Nursey is available this might actually work in the short term now, but it's pure dumb luck since this became apparent after the fact. The team + raptor had a lot of promise as it was, just needed more patience and modesty.

edit: uuuh, +1 to ipz' point about planet express. I dunno about this german drama...
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#42
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im getting flashbacks

im getting flashbacks
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https://youtu.be/-Qqo5PGHM34?t=39s

https://youtu.be/-Qqo5PGHM34?t=39s
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#45
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CYKAZKidIpzschockydedicated to improving =/= improving
Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

edit#2: spaces for dmoule

ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth

mate ur a fuckin dumb cunt u know that

[quote=CYKAZ][quote=KidIpz][quote=schocky]dedicated to improving =/= improving[/quote]

Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

edit#2: spaces for dmoule[/quote]

ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth[/quote]

mate ur a fuckin dumb cunt u know that
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Can you pls stop talkin behind my back.
I dont want to be a part of this, thanks ._.

Can you pls stop talkin behind my back.
I dont want to be a part of this, thanks ._.
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#47
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This , my dear, is a public forum and you are able to read this at any given time. Do you know the definiton of "behind someones back"? Do you imply I should pay you a visit everytime I want to express an opinion about you as a player? You guys are mental

This , my dear, is a public forum and you are able to read this at any given time. Do you know the definiton of "behind someones back"? Do you imply I should pay you a visit everytime I want to express an opinion about you as a player? You guys are mental
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#48
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KidIpzSheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute.

How dare you! This is completely untrue. I find it offensive that you would say something like that. I mean zoob says at least 20 words a minute not 10.

Also it's fair enough that you think I have some "major personality" if you judge by idiot forum posts and maybe my attitude when I was 15. I like to think i'm quite calm and pleasant in game nowadays though and you could probably ask about this to anyone who has played with me recently. I personally don't think raptor is a bad medic apart from being unable to right click sometimes. He just didn't fit in well with the players we have around the combo. I play around the flank on this team so I am usually ok with any medic from my point of view but like kaidus said raptor just didn't work well with our combo classes and it was causing a lot of atmosphere and gameplay issues so I really think that cutting him was the only thing I could do to keep the team going.

Also come back to TF2 already ipz bby

[quote=KidIpz]Sheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute.[/quote]

How dare you! This is completely untrue. I find it offensive that you would say something like that. I mean zoob says at least 20 words a minute not 10.

Also it's fair enough that you think I have some "major personality" if you judge by idiot forum posts and maybe my attitude when I was 15. I like to think i'm quite calm and pleasant in game nowadays though and you could probably ask about this to anyone who has played with me recently. I personally don't think raptor is a bad medic apart from being unable to right click sometimes. He just didn't fit in well with the players we have around the combo. I play around the flank on this team so I am usually ok with any medic from my point of view but like kaidus said raptor just didn't work well with our combo classes and it was causing a lot of atmosphere and gameplay issues so I really think that cutting him was the only thing I could do to keep the team going.

Also come back to TF2 already ipz bby
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#49
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CYKAZKidIpzschockydedicated to improving =/= improving
Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

edit#2: spaces for dmoule

ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth

the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school and you still manage to sound like an illiterate spastic

+ 1 ipz on the raptor matter and good luck for the future

[quote=CYKAZ][quote=KidIpz][quote=schocky]dedicated to improving =/= improving[/quote]

Big wall from the Fake life kid aka IPZ

edit#2: spaces for dmoule[/quote]

ur just yelly that schocky got a actual life and u dont ? remember the time when u lie to the whole tf2 community that u have a Family. But instead ur just a Fucking Lier u just Lie'd about haveing a kid and a Family but yeha ur just Damn Fat and people like you are just annoying :> sorry for telling you the Truth[/quote]


the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school and you still manage to sound like an illiterate spastic

+ 1 ipz on the raptor matter and good luck for the future
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#50
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smzithe average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school

Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck

[quote=smzi]
the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
[/quote]

Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck
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#51
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Sheepy,I understand and respect your decision of cutting Raptor, those kind of steps are sometimes neccesary and also dont only potencially get rid of a weak link but influence the teams moral. My whole point was just to prevent this thing where Raptor becomes a meme for being bad and people telling him that having the will to improve isnt equal with improvement. I also don´t judge you as a real life person ( which i never do ) since we are all on the internet using nicknames and most of the time prolly express ourselfs different to how we would in an offline world. I hope you find a medic that meets your demands.

Sheepy,I understand and respect your decision of cutting Raptor, those kind of steps are sometimes neccesary and also dont only potencially get rid of a weak link but influence the teams moral. My whole point was just to prevent this thing where Raptor becomes a meme for being bad and people telling him that having the will to improve isnt equal with improvement. I also don´t judge you as a real life person ( which i never do ) since we are all on the internet using nicknames and most of the time prolly express ourselfs different to how we would in an offline world. I hope you find a medic that meets your demands.
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No it's like everytime u say sth like "pussy whipped" (I say stefan that he needs to play with me etc. etc. ) some ppl take it way to serious that im a total control freak - and thats totally wrong.

No it's like everytime u say sth like "pussy whipped" (I say stefan that he needs to play with me etc. etc. ) some ppl take it way to serious that im a total control freak - and thats totally wrong.
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Shooshsmzithe average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck

Pretty much all European countries do thisI always thought? English, French, German & Dutch is obligated here, German & French obligated for 2 years then choose the one you're the best at.

[quote=Shoosh][quote=smzi]
the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
[/quote]

Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck[/quote]
Pretty much all European countries do thisI always thought? English, French, German & Dutch is obligated here, German & French obligated for 2 years then choose the one you're the best at.
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KidIpzIm in here telling people what improvement means and why effort doesnt mean they will ever be good :D Stefan it really is you not being and adult and having a go on matter you actually know very little about ( playing with or against Raptor). My personal life also has nothing to do with this matter as we are arguing on a video gaming board so what is your point. Im neither attacking you personally nor am I making up points that aren´t valid thus I also don´t see how i am behaving as if im not an adult or my nickname suiting me.

just read my comment again and think about it (just as sec ... PLEASE). it's getting annoying when people have a tunnelvision while reading comments.

so let me explain it just for you:

1. "+1 that you removed the pastebin link."#
- raptor had a pastebin-link in it which he removed. since it was a chat between sheepy and him I wasn't a huge fan of that.

2. "dedicated to improving =/= improving"
- of course it's excellent if there is a person who wants to improve but that does not mean he (really) improves. just wanted to make it clear. you are right, i haven't played with or against raptor and that's why i did not say that he hasn't improved so far.

3. "you can "put so much time and effort into trying to improve" even w/o seeing improvement"
- again speaking in general. a player should not put time and effort into trying to improve if he thinks he has improved. a player who wants to become better SHOULD put some effort/time into it. for the best effect: ask your teammates if they would like to watch a demo TOGETHER.

actually i do not care if say words like these:
"is you not being and adult"
"you are pussy whipped"
but imo an adult person wouldn't have written such "salty" things.

"Sheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute. If you add to this that his demoman is the worst in premiership you could say that the conditions are neither perfect nor good."

- sheepy is the leader and that's the reason he told raptor that he is cut. in his private chat you can clearly see that he was pretty friendly.

who cares about the conditions if there are people who just do not want to play with raptor as med?
it's a team and the members should be like a "little" family (a friendly family though! :D).

so, that's enough i guess. good night and as i said before: re-add me if you want to discuss with me.

[quote=KidIpz]Im in here telling people what improvement means and why effort doesnt mean they will ever be good :D Stefan it really is you not being and adult and having a go on matter you actually know very little about ( playing with or against Raptor). My personal life also has nothing to do with this matter as we are arguing on a video gaming board so what is your point. Im neither attacking you personally nor am I making up points that aren´t valid thus I also don´t see how i am behaving as if im not an adult or my nickname suiting me.[/quote]

just read my comment again and think about it (just as sec ... PLEASE). it's getting annoying when people have a tunnelvision while reading comments.

so let me explain it just for you:

1. "+1 that you removed the pastebin link."#
- raptor had a pastebin-link in it which he removed. since it was a chat between sheepy and him I wasn't a huge fan of that.

2. "dedicated to improving =/= improving"
- of course it's excellent if there is a person who wants to improve but that does not mean he (really) improves. just wanted to make it clear. you are right, i haven't played with or against raptor and that's why i did not say that he hasn't improved so far.

3. "you can "put so much time and effort into trying to improve" even w/o seeing improvement"
- again speaking in general. a player should not put time and effort into trying to improve if he thinks he has improved. a player who wants to become better SHOULD put some effort/time into it. for the best effect: ask your teammates if they would like to watch a demo TOGETHER.

actually i do not care if say words like these:
"is you not being and adult"
"you are pussy whipped"
but imo an adult person wouldn't have written such "salty" things.


"Sheepy was never known for his great insight in TF2 whilst having major personality issues and his pocket says 10 words a minute. If you add to this that his demoman is the worst in premiership you could say that the conditions are neither perfect nor good."

- sheepy is the leader and that's the reason he told raptor that he is cut. in his private chat you can clearly see that he was pretty friendly.

who cares about the conditions if there are people who just do not want to play with raptor as med?
it's a team and the members should be like a "little" family (a friendly family though! :D).

so, that's enough i guess. good night and as i said before: re-add me if you want to discuss with me.
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#55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRcWLNyA-Hg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRcWLNyA-Hg
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#56
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"salty things"

"salty things"
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Shooshsmzithe average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck

It just so happens that english is an important language :)

[quote=Shoosh][quote=smzi]
the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
[/quote]

Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck[/quote]

It just so happens that english is an important language :)
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kaidusThere are 3 completely unproven players in planet express all playing in/around the combo, the only experienced head there is not particularly vocal so I have no idea how they expected to see real results this fast. Team got completely carried away with some promising scrim results, and are now learning the hard way that scrims are just scrims.

yea sure but the chemistry has to be there. it's pretty important, isn't it? the news post was imo a bit harsh for raptor (quoting for example: stuff like: makes too many mistakes).

the chemistry wasn't good so it's better to part ways

[quote=kaidus]There are 3 completely unproven players in planet express all playing in/around the combo, the only experienced head there is not particularly vocal so I have no idea how they expected to see real results this fast. Team got completely carried away with some promising scrim results, and are now learning the hard way that scrims are just scrims.[/quote]

yea sure but the chemistry has to be there. it's pretty important, isn't it? the news post was imo a bit harsh for raptor (quoting for example: stuff like: makes too many mistakes).

the chemistry wasn't good so it's better to part ways
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Shooshsmzithe average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck

common on the continent; I learned four Languages from 2 to 8 years, French, Dutch, English and German, at least we didnt had to learn Greek or Latin like some courses still do mandatory.

[quote=Shoosh][quote=smzi]
the average german has roughly about 5-9 years of english classes in school
[/quote]

Wait what? i feel bad that I can only speak English... and to learn a language here we memorise a script and talk it back at someone and we pass

The fuck[/quote]
common on the continent; I learned four Languages from 2 to 8 years, French, Dutch, English and German, at least we didnt had to learn Greek or Latin like some courses still do mandatory.
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BonafidePretty much all European countries do this I always thought? English, French, German & Dutch is obligated here, German & French obligated for 2 years then choose the one you're the best at.

I (and a year above or below I forget) was personally forced to take French into year 10 and 11 as a GCSE but that isnt applied anymore. So in the UK everyone from year 7-9 undertakes a language and can optionally take it in year 10 and 11. But it isnt really learning a language, we memorise a script abut two sides of A4 (four different ones) and speak it back and we pass.

[quote=Bonafide]
Pretty much all European countries do this I always thought? English, French, German & Dutch is obligated here, German & French obligated for 2 years then choose the one you're the best at.[/quote]

I (and a year above or below I forget) was personally forced to take French into year 10 and 11 as a GCSE but that isnt applied anymore. So in the UK everyone from year 7-9 undertakes a language and can optionally take it in year 10 and 11. But it isnt really learning a language, we memorise a script abut two sides of A4 (four different ones) and speak it back and we pass.
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