Hey, guys. For those of you who may not know, I am an admin for the NA 6v6 Newbie Mixes. This coming season, we’re wanting to promote players to get straight into ESEA. One of the ways we’re doing that is through a Newbie Mix team drive. Basically, we help newbies find other newbies that want to improve over a season of ESEA-Open. We’ll pair six newbies and a mentor together for every team we make.
The reason for this post is that we need willing players with Open playoff+ experience to guide the newbies along this process and help them hurdle over the barriers of entry that seem so large to a newer player. This includes signing them up, showing how to get fees and premium paid, explaining the client, going over demos once the season actually starts, and answering any questions they might have.
This may seem like a lot, but I can’t imagine it would take more than an hour or two a week if that's all the time you have to spare. If you’re interested in helping out, post a comment here or PM me on TFTV.
Also, we’ll be trying to hook up particularly young players with sponsors to help pay their fees, because $30 is one of those aforementioned barriers of entry. Contact me if you are interested in that as well.
EDIT: Newbies sign up here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix/discussions/0/487877107134357702/
Hey, guys. For those of you who may not know, I am an admin for the NA 6v6 Newbie Mixes. This coming season, we’re wanting to promote players to get straight into ESEA. One of the ways we’re doing that is through a Newbie Mix team drive. [b]Basically, we help newbies find other newbies that want to improve over a season of ESEA-Open.[/b] We’ll pair six newbies and a mentor together for every team we make.
The reason for this post is that we need willing players [b]with Open playoff+ experience[/b] to guide the newbies along this process and help them hurdle over the barriers of entry that seem so large to a newer player. This includes signing them up, showing how to get fees and premium paid, explaining the client, going over demos once the season actually starts, and answering any questions they might have.
This may seem like a lot, but I can’t imagine it would take more than [b]an hour or two a week[/b] if that's all the time you have to spare. If you’re interested in helping out, post a comment here or PM me on TFTV.
Also, we’ll be trying to hook up particularly young players with sponsors to help pay their fees, because $30 is one of those aforementioned barriers of entry. Contact me if you are interested in that as well.
EDIT: Newbies sign up here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix/discussions/0/487877107134357702/
This sounds interesting, I may give it a shot. One question though.
How will teams be picked? Will the coaches pick teams? Will newbies create there own teams? Will teams be created by the newbie mixes staff?
It be nice if coaches got to create teams in my opinion. They would be able to set up 6 players with a solid idea of the game, and that they know and like.
This sounds interesting, I may give it a shot. One question though.
How will teams be picked? Will the coaches pick teams? Will newbies create there own teams? Will teams be created by the newbie mixes staff?
It be nice if coaches got to create teams in my opinion. They would be able to set up 6 players with a solid idea of the game, and that they know and like.
TheMelonThis sounds interesting, I may give it a shot. One question though.
How will teams be picked? Will the coaches pick teams? Will newbies create there own teams? Will teams be created by the newbie mixes staff?
It be nice if coaches got to create teams in my opinion. They would be able to set up 6 players with a solid idea of the game, and that they know and like.
We will be creating a pool of newbies and sorting them out into teams of similar capabilities. More experienced mentors get to pick teams first, then the others.
[quote=TheMelon]This sounds interesting, I may give it a shot. One question though.
How will teams be picked? Will the coaches pick teams? Will newbies create there own teams? Will teams be created by the newbie mixes staff?
It be nice if coaches got to create teams in my opinion. They would be able to set up 6 players with a solid idea of the game, and that they know and like.[/quote]
We will be creating a pool of newbies and sorting them out into teams of similar capabilities. More experienced mentors get to pick teams first, then the others.
Your friends list is full add me please
Your friends list is full add me please
Would love to take a team under my wing
Would love to take a team under my wing
This sounds amazing, kevin is at it again
This sounds amazing, kevin is at it again
One question.
Let's say i want to join that newbie team because i'm always looking to get better and i've been playing Newbie Mixes for months now and some other guy wants to join that Newbie team and has only played one or two Newbie Mixes.
Does he/she have the same chances as me to join that team?
One question.
Let's say i want to join that newbie team because i'm always looking to get better and i've been playing Newbie Mixes for months now and some other guy wants to join that Newbie team and has only played one or two Newbie Mixes.
Does he/she have the same chances as me to join that team?
SmesiOne question.
Let's say i want to join that newbie team because i'm always looking to get better and i've been playing Newbie Mixes for months now and some other guy wants to join that Newbie team and has only played one or two Newbie Mixes.
Does he/she have the same chances as me to join that team?
We look at experience both in newbie mixes and out of newbie mixes to determine that, so no I guess? There will be several teams. Odds are, you will get on one of them.
[quote=Smesi]One question.
Let's say i want to join that newbie team because i'm always looking to get better and i've been playing Newbie Mixes for months now and some other guy wants to join that Newbie team and has only played one or two Newbie Mixes.
Does he/she have the same chances as me to join that team?[/quote]
We look at experience both in newbie mixes and out of newbie mixes to determine that, so no I guess? There will be several teams. Odds are, you will get on one of them.
this seems like an awesome idea.
this seems like an awesome idea.
If i'm interested in being matched into a team, but haven't previously taken part of Newbie mixes, Would that be alright? Of course I'd be willing to participate in mixes down the road, but i've only participated in other pugs and matches.
If i'm interested in being matched into a team, but haven't previously taken part of Newbie mixes, Would that be alright? Of course I'd be willing to participate in mixes down the road, but i've only participated in other pugs and matches.
Man I'd so love to go up for this, but I really just can't cuz my schedule. IF this is successful, would you guys do this mmm perhaps next season or so?
Man I'd so love to go up for this, but I really just can't cuz my schedule. IF this is successful, would you guys do this mmm perhaps next season or so?
This seems like a really cool thing and I'd love to participate as a player.
This seems like a really cool thing and I'd love to participate as a player.
i might have some extra time next season x)
i might have some extra time next season x)
acutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?
acutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?
razeacutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?
I would assume it would depend on your mentor. I personally wouldn't want to foot the bill for a server for a mentored team (although I'd be happy to help them set up a server they're paying for) but I would be willing to help them find scrims. Some mentors would be more or less committed.
[quote=raze]acutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?[/quote]
I would assume it would depend on your mentor. I personally wouldn't want to foot the bill for a server for a mentored team (although I'd be happy to help them set up a server they're paying for) but I would be willing to help them find scrims. Some mentors would be more or less committed.
FUNKeIf i'm interested in being matched into a team, but haven't previously taken part of Newbie mixes, Would that be alright? Of course I'd be willing to participate in mixes down the road, but i've only participated in other pugs and matches.
Yes this is a community-wide recruitment project, so everyone will be able to sign up. It is highly recommended that you go to a few newbie mixes to solidify the basics if you need to though.
StevieMan I'd so love to go up for this, but I really just can't cuz my schedule. IF this is successful, would you guys do this mmm perhaps next season or so?
Yes.
valtroidThis seems like a really cool thing and I'd love to participate as a player.
Sign up here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix/discussions/0/487877107134357702/
razeacutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?
Serveme is a thing, and I have a few rcons that I can give if anyone really needs one.
[quote=FUNKe]If i'm interested in being matched into a team, but haven't previously taken part of Newbie mixes, Would that be alright? Of course I'd be willing to participate in mixes down the road, but i've only participated in other pugs and matches.[/quote]
Yes this is a community-wide recruitment project, so everyone will be able to sign up. It is highly recommended that you go to a few newbie mixes to solidify the basics if you need to though.
[quote=Stevie]Man I'd so love to go up for this, but I really just can't cuz my schedule. IF this is successful, would you guys do this mmm perhaps next season or so?[/quote]
Yes.
[quote=valtroid]This seems like a really cool thing and I'd love to participate as a player.[/quote]
Sign up here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix/discussions/0/487877107134357702/
[quote=raze]acutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?[/quote]
Serveme is a thing, and I have a few rcons that I can give if anyone really needs one.
i will coach my pokemon team will be the strongest
i will coach my pokemon team will be the strongest
this sounds really cool, sign me up :3
this sounds really cool, sign me up :3
this sounds like a great idea, if I have some extra time I'd be down to help out
this sounds like a great idea, if I have some extra time I'd be down to help out
razeacutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?
I already have a newbie team I am mentoring, so I can't commit to teaching another group. But if a team really and honestly can't pay for a scrim server/mumble, let me know and we can come up with a solution. At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
I can also be available for technical assistance for these new teams and their coaches.
[quote=raze]acutally, question: will teh coaches find a server, will you guys do that, or will the players? how about scrims? will teh teams schedule them themselves?
and are these teams designed to exist for more than one season?[/quote]
I already have a newbie team I am mentoring, so I can't commit to teaching another group. But if a team really and honestly can't pay for a scrim server/mumble, let me know and we can come up with a solution. At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
I can also be available for technical assistance for these new teams and their coaches.
drshdwpuppet At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
Discord is FREEEEEEE
[quote=drshdwpuppet] At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
[/quote]
Discord is FREEEEEEE
samifacedrshdwpuppet At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
Discord is FREEEEEEE
And continues to not work for me on Linux.
[quote=samiface][quote=drshdwpuppet] At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
[/quote]
Discord is FREEEEEEE[/quote]
And continues to not work for me on Linux.
drshdwpuppetsamifacedrshdwpuppet At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
Discord is FREEEEEEE
And continues to not work for me on Linux.
The phone app has voice too, Stubborn Sally. Plus discord has /tableflip, how can mumble even try to compete.
[quote=drshdwpuppet][quote=samiface][quote=drshdwpuppet] At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
[/quote]
Discord is FREEEEEEE[/quote]
And continues to not work for me on Linux.[/quote]
The phone app has voice too, Stubborn Sally. Plus discord has /tableflip, how can mumble even try to compete.
drshdwpuppetsamifacedrshdwpuppet At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
Discord is FREEEEEEE
And continues to not work for me on Linux.
are you not able to use the browser version or do you just feel it would be lacking features?
[quote=drshdwpuppet][quote=samiface][quote=drshdwpuppet] At the very least I don't mind hosting a free mumble for newbie teams.
[/quote]
Discord is FREEEEEEE[/quote]
And continues to not work for me on Linux.[/quote]
are you not able to use the browser version or do you just feel it would be lacking features?
As a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.
As a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.
WheresmytoastAs a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.
I think there is this misunderstanding of how open goes for teams. For the first 4 weeks of the season, your matches are randomly drawn. You may have a difficult start, you may have an easier one with teams close to your skill level. Once the halfway point is reached however, teams get matched up against opponents based on w/l record, w/l of everyone each team has played (this keeps you from getting screwed if you face off against all low teams for the first half so you don't get completely screwed over and have to play playoff teams) and a few other factors.
This means that, for the back half of the season, you are way more likely to get paired up with teams closer to your skill level.
Besides, your actual matches represent 16 (hopefully) games over 8 weeks. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the experience you will get playing against other open teams around your skill level and the kinds of challenges and learning opportunities that open themselves up once you start taking the game seriously enough to pay for it.
[quote=Wheresmytoast]As a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.[/quote]
I think there is this misunderstanding of how open goes for teams. For the first 4 weeks of the season, your matches are randomly drawn. You may have a difficult start, you may have an easier one with teams close to your skill level. Once the halfway point is reached however, teams get matched up against opponents based on w/l record, w/l of everyone each team has played (this keeps you from getting screwed if you face off against all low teams for the first half so you don't get completely screwed over and have to play playoff teams) and a few other factors.
This means that, for the back half of the season, you are way more likely to get paired up with teams closer to your skill level.
Besides, your actual matches represent 16 (hopefully) games over 8 weeks. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the experience you will get playing against other open teams around your skill level and the kinds of challenges and learning opportunities that open themselves up once you start taking the game seriously enough to pay for it.
WheresmytoastAs a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.
It's all about building a foundation and working from that. You will lose throughout the season. Maybe you'll lose a little, maybe you'll lose a lot. But if you and your teammates can work through that, keep scrimming, continually find ways to improve (assuming that's what everyone wants to be doing), there's pretty much no harm a season of Open will do for you guys. It's just setting you up for your next season, and then more after that. It's huge to be able to have a "good loser" mentality / be able to handle losing, and be surrounded by teammates who are the same way.
[quote=Wheresmytoast]As a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.[/quote]
It's all about building a foundation and working from that. You will lose throughout the season. Maybe you'll lose a little, maybe you'll lose a lot. But if you and your teammates can work through that, keep scrimming, continually find ways to improve (assuming that's what everyone wants to be doing), there's pretty much no harm a season of Open will do for you guys. It's just setting you up for your next season, and then more after that. It's huge to be able to have a "good loser" mentality / be able to handle losing, and be surrounded by teammates who are the same way.
drshdwpuppetWheresmytoastAs a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.
I think there is this misunderstanding of how open goes for teams. For the first 4 weeks of the season, your matches are randomly drawn. You may have a difficult start, you may have an easier one with teams close to your skill level. Once the halfway point is reached however, teams get matched up against opponents based on w/l record, w/l of everyone each team has played (this keeps you from getting screwed if you face off against all low teams for the first half so you don't get completely screwed over and have to play playoff teams) and a few other factors.
This means that, for the back half of the season, you are way more likely to get paired up with teams closer to your skill level.
Besides, your actual matches represent 16 (hopefully) games over 8 weeks. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the experience you will get playing against other open teams around your skill level and the kinds of challenges and learning opportunities that open themselves up once you start taking the game seriously enough to pay for it.
I didn't think about the valuable learning experience it would be so much as I thought about winning. Oops.
At the end of the season I imagine all the newbie teams would end up playing each other and would probably be able to apply what they learned and overall would improve. Value of this seen.
[quote=drshdwpuppet][quote=Wheresmytoast]As a person who's been playing newbie mixes for awhile, I'm not sure how well these teams would do in Open. Wouldn't they just get stomped? This idea seems cool, but I'm not sure how encouraging losing over and over would be. Of course, some of these teams could do well, but I'm not sure about the majority of these teams contesting mid-high open teams at the least.[/quote]
I think there is this misunderstanding of how open goes for teams. For the first 4 weeks of the season, your matches are randomly drawn. You may have a difficult start, you may have an easier one with teams close to your skill level. Once the halfway point is reached however, teams get matched up against opponents based on w/l record, w/l of everyone each team has played (this keeps you from getting screwed if you face off against all low teams for the first half so you don't get completely screwed over and have to play playoff teams) and a few other factors.
This means that, for the back half of the season, you are way more likely to get paired up with teams closer to your skill level.
Besides, your actual matches represent 16 (hopefully) games over 8 weeks. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the experience you will get playing against other open teams around your skill level and the kinds of challenges and learning opportunities that open themselves up once you start taking the game seriously enough to pay for it.[/quote]
I didn't think about the valuable learning experience it would be so much as I thought about winning. Oops.
At the end of the season I imagine all the newbie teams would end up playing each other and would probably be able to apply what they learned and overall would improve. Value of this seen.