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All-girl, transatlantic TF2 HL showdown!
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#31
12 Frags +

i protest the naming of r/teamfortresstwox due to its heterosexist implication that gender is determined by the chromosomes and the subsequent exclusion of transfemales, women with androgen insensitivity syndrome and those with unusual or intersex chromosome patterns such as XO, XXY, XXX et cetera, if these marginalised groups are not also permitted to participate in these "women-only" events i will be complaining to the ACLU or.... something

your simplistic embracement of the outdated, patriarchal two-gender model is an affront to esports. email me to receive copies of my 350-page dissertation, a history of cisgenderist prejudice in video games 1985-2012, for further information

i protest the naming of r/teamfortresstwox due to its heterosexist implication that gender is determined by the chromosomes and the subsequent exclusion of transfemales, women with androgen insensitivity syndrome and those with unusual or intersex chromosome patterns such as XO, XXY, XXX et cetera, if these marginalised groups are not also permitted to participate in these "women-only" events i will be complaining to the ACLU or.... something

your simplistic embracement of the outdated, patriarchal two-gender model is an affront to esports. email me to receive copies of my 350-page dissertation, [i]a history of cisgenderist prejudice in video games 1985-2012[/i], for further information
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#32
16 Frags +

ok so that wasn't 100% serious

but probably the biggest reason women don't usually make it past open is because of the widespread sexism that is either actively promoted or passively tolerated by virtually all of the influential figures in the community. why bother to put in the effort to improve for a community that's hostile to you from the start because of something beyond your control? most people aren't that invested in a video game

ok so that wasn't 100% serious

but probably the biggest reason women don't usually make it past open is because of the widespread sexism that is either actively promoted or passively tolerated by virtually all of the influential figures in the community. why bother to put in the effort to improve for a community that's hostile to you from the start because of something beyond your control? most people aren't [i]that[/i] invested in a video game
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#33
5 Frags +
riverdudecan you use 9 medics in highlander

im personally offended

[quote=riverdude]can you use 9 medics in highlander[/quote]
im personally offended
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#34
1 Frags +
kiriok so that wasn't 100% serious

but probably the biggest reason women don't usually make it past open is because of the widespread sexism that is either actively promoted or passively tolerated by virtually all of the influential figures in the community. why bother to put in the effort to improve for a community that's hostile to you from the start because of something beyond your control? most people aren't that invested in a video game

Then it's like the Negro Leagues, when black were oppressed from MLB.
Either way, comparing this to the special Olympics was pretty harsh. There are valid reasons for this. That's all I gotta say.

EDIT: Just for final reference:
-There are physical differences. They aren't known to matter significantly for playing TF2.
-Even so, they're minority and underrepresented/seen in leagues.
-Negro leagues had a physical difference (white vs black is a pretty clear physical difference) that doesn't technically affect gameplay, still helpful/ok thing to have for the time.
-If more women end up playing TF2 in bigger and more serious leagues, the better. Maybe this league won't be needed or will generally be a clique thing or for charity events.
-This event isn't trying to make women seem like they're mentally retarded or physically handicapped compared to men, so no need to whine about it.

[quote=kiri]ok so that wasn't 100% serious

but probably the biggest reason women don't usually make it past open is because of the widespread sexism that is either actively promoted or passively tolerated by virtually all of the influential figures in the community. why bother to put in the effort to improve for a community that's hostile to you from the start because of something beyond your control? most people aren't [i]that[/i] invested in a video game[/quote]
Then it's like the Negro Leagues, when black were oppressed from MLB.
Either way, comparing this to the special Olympics was pretty harsh. There are valid reasons for this. That's all I gotta say.

EDIT: Just for final reference:
-There are physical differences. They aren't known to matter significantly for playing TF2.
-Even so, they're minority and underrepresented/seen in leagues.
-Negro leagues had a physical difference (white vs black is a pretty clear physical difference) that doesn't technically affect gameplay, still helpful/ok thing to have for the time.
-If more women end up playing TF2 in bigger and more serious leagues, the better. Maybe this league won't be needed or will generally be a clique thing or for charity events.
-This event isn't trying to make women seem like they're mentally retarded or physically handicapped compared to men, so no need to whine about it.
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#35
19 Frags +
brownymaster There are valid reasons for this.

yes, because there is a 20 millisecond difference in reaction time between genders in the most athletic people in the world, women cannot be competitive with such prime male specimens. truly, shining examples of physical fitness; models of masculine prowess.

http://i.imgur.com/QxOTv.jpgexhibit one

exhibit two

[quote=brownymaster] There are valid reasons for this. [/quote]

yes, because there is a 20 millisecond difference in reaction time between genders in the most athletic people in the world, women cannot be competitive with such prime male specimens. truly, shining examples of physical fitness; models of masculine prowess.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/QxOTv.jpgexhibit one[/img]
[url=http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3610/oplaidga7.png]exhibit two[/url]
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#36
20 Frags +

Holy Shit, An All Girl Team????

Holy Shit, An All Girl Team????
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#37
2 Frags +
crumpetbrownymaster There are valid reasons for this.
yes, because there is a 20 millisecond difference in reaction time between genders in the most athletic people in the world, women cannot be competitive with such prime male specimens. truly, shining examples of physical fitness; models of masculine prowess.

http://i.imgur.com/QxOTv.jpgexhibit one
exhibit two

Not even mortal men can compete with him though.

[quote=crumpet][quote=brownymaster] There are valid reasons for this. [/quote]

yes, because there is a 20 millisecond difference in reaction time between genders in the most athletic people in the world, women cannot be competitive with such prime male specimens. truly, shining examples of physical fitness; models of masculine prowess.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/QxOTv.jpgexhibit one[/img]
[url=http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3610/oplaidga7.png]exhibit two[/url][/quote]
Not even mortal men can compete with him though.
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#38
5 Frags +

It's both interesting and unfortunate that the main selling point of the match is that it stars an all-female lineup on both sides of the pond. Interesting because it's unique, and unfortunate because if we read too far into it, we start a shitstorm.

I like to think that differences in reaction time (if any) are negligible because there are larger and more common factors that affect physical performance, like tiredness and practice.

It's both interesting and unfortunate that the main selling point of the match is that it stars an all-female lineup on both sides of the pond. Interesting because it's unique, and unfortunate because if we read too far into it, we start a shitstorm.

I like to think that differences in reaction time (if any) are negligible because there are larger and more common factors that affect physical performance, like tiredness and practice.
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#39
1 Frags +

the difference between reaction times of top invite players in this game (all of whom, as far as i know, identify as male) is significantly more than 20 ms so i don't see how that kind of difference is statistically significant

the difference between reaction times of top invite players in this game (all of whom, as far as i know, identify as male) is significantly more than 20 ms so i don't see how that kind of difference is statistically significant
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#40
-1 Frags +

Hmm, this would make a good Fully Charged episode discussion...

Pleeeeeeeeeease let me be on FC, Sal!!!!!!!! I promise I won't even mention cats.

Hmm, this would make a good Fully Charged episode discussion...

Pleeeeeeeeeease let me be on FC, Sal!!!!!!!! I promise I won't even mention cats.
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#41
4 Frags +
KipHmm, this would make a good Fully Charged episode discussion...

Pleeeeeeeeeease let me be on FC, Sal!!!!!!!! I promise I won't even mention cats.

http://i.imgur.com/C5Cb4.jpg

[quote=Kip]Hmm, this would make a good Fully Charged episode discussion...

Pleeeeeeeeeease let me be on FC, Sal!!!!!!!! I promise I won't even mention cats.[/quote]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/C5Cb4.jpg[/img]
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#42
-4 Frags +
RenhetAs a girl, I resent girl-only tourneys. Why not participate with guys in leagues that already exist? I think being the best of both genders warrants more bragging rights. This feels like the Special Olympics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNESGut1Jo4

[quote=Renhet]As a girl, I resent girl-only tourneys. Why not participate with guys in leagues that already exist? I think being the best of both genders warrants more bragging rights. This feels like the Special Olympics.[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNESGut1Jo4
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#43
3 Frags +

Good shit, I love girls and highlander TF2 a whole lot.

Good shit, I love girls and highlander TF2 a whole lot.
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#44
1 Frags +

yall niggas is trippin

yall niggas is trippin
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#45
7 Frags +

Holy fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)

Holy fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)
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#46
2 Frags +

I don't know any of the girls on those teams ):

I don't know any of the girls on those teams ):
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#47
0 Frags +
FogHoly fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)

The vulgar things you said in mumble about this thread are super offensive.

Can someone explain to me what "canadian baconing" a woman is?

[quote=Fog]Holy fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)[/quote]

The vulgar things you said in mumble about this thread are super offensive.

Can someone explain to me what "canadian baconing" a woman is?
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#48
2 Frags +

/facepalm x 2

Gosh darn it, people...

/facepalm x 2

Gosh darn it, people...
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#49
12 Frags +

This is probably the saddest thread I have ever read.

This is probably the saddest thread I have ever read.
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#50
10 Frags +

There may or may not be physical/biological sex differences that affect performance in tf2, but I think it probably has more to do with the fact that women in general tend to be less competitive than men, and that most of the women who play probably have less experience with video games in general than men.

BapeDo a fattest girl award, I would be on the edge of my seat.

It's ignorant things like that that help prevent women from putting much effort into playing video games. It's not exactly encouraging when you're constantly told you're bad and always will be because you're female, and people constantly assume that you're fat, only play medic, etc. I joke about it too but honestly it gets old after a while. Repeatedly saying things like women are bad at games tends to make them believe that, adopt that label, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

There may or may not be physical/biological sex differences that affect performance in tf2, but I think it probably has more to do with the fact that women in general tend to be less competitive than men, and that most of the women who play probably have less experience with video games in general than men.

[quote=Bape]Do a fattest girl award, I would be on the edge of my seat.[/quote]

It's ignorant things like that that help prevent women from putting much effort into playing video games. It's not exactly encouraging when you're constantly told you're bad and always will be because you're female, and people constantly assume that you're fat, only play medic, etc. I joke about it too but honestly it gets old after a while. Repeatedly saying things like women are bad at games tends to make them believe that, adopt that label, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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#51
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swiperRepeatedly saying things like women are bad at games tends to make them believe that, adopt that label, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Why do so many people have this shitty attitude.

"Oh this person called me bad at [whatever], now my feelings are hurt and I'm going to stop doing it."

Grow a fucking spine.

(Not directed at you. Just a general statement.)

[quote=swiper]Repeatedly saying things like women are bad at games tends to make them believe that, adopt that label, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.[/quote]
Why do so many people have this shitty attitude.

"Oh this person called me bad at [whatever], now my feelings are hurt and I'm going to stop doing it."

Grow a fucking spine.

(Not directed at you. Just a general statement.)
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#52
11 Frags +

this thread is weird

this thread is weird
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#53
0 Frags +

could imagine the level of bickering generated by one mumble channel, must be off the charts l00000000000000000000l

could imagine the level of bickering generated by one mumble channel, must be off the charts l00000000000000000000l
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#54
-4 Frags +
Lil_NathanThat went downhill rather quickly. And people wonder why the TF2 community doesn't grow. *smh*

what part of this went downhill, also nice 3 friends *smh*

[quote=Lil_Nathan]That went downhill rather quickly. And people wonder why the TF2 community doesn't grow. *smh*[/quote]
what part of this went downhill, also nice 3 friends *smh*
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#55
-1 Frags +

I dont know if its physiology based or gender role based or psychologically based

but girls are bad at video games

except for mtf transexuals

I dont know if its physiology based or gender role based or psychologically based

but girls are bad at video games

except for mtf transexuals
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#56
2 Frags +
mustardoverlordexcept for mtf transexuals

what has science done

[quote=mustardoverlord]
except for mtf transexuals[/quote]
[i]what has science done[/i]
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#57
1 Frags +

dey got dem big hands

dey got dem big hands
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#58
3 Frags +
KipThe game will be played on Saturday 1st December 2012 at 22:00 CET/18:00 EST

22 CET is 16 EST. Which is 4 pm if you are lazy and don't know 24 hr clock.

[quote=Kip]The game will be played on Saturday 1st December 2012 at 22:00 CET/18:00 EST[/quote]

22 CET is 16 EST. Which is 4 pm if you are lazy and don't know 24 hr clock.
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#59
10 Frags +

Also a lot of the players (at least on the NA team) are very new to competitive so this is a nice way for them to get some experience in a team format on a class that isn't medic. These teams were formed to play before we knew there would be a 'showmatch' between the EU and NA lady teams.

I don't really care if we're bad; I just want to play video games.

Also a lot of the players (at least on the NA team) are very new to competitive so this is a nice way for them to get some experience in a team format on a class that isn't medic. These teams were formed to play before we knew there would be a 'showmatch' between the EU and NA lady teams.

I don't really care if we're bad; I just want to play video games.
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#60
1 Frags +
ThomasduhtrainFogHoly fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)
The vulgar things you said in mumble about this thread are super offensive.

Can someone explain to me what "canadian baconing" a woman is?

From urbandictionary

Sex with a Canadian girl.
You get that canadian bacon?
Yeah boy, we did it last night

Used to define one's extraordinary large or thick penis. Originates from the
thickness of the breakfast meat it's named after. Meat being another slang for penis.
Click here for tripple x canadian bacon.

[quote=Thomasduhtrain][quote=Fog]Holy fuck dudes, calm your tits (man-tits also applies here)[/quote]

The vulgar things you said in mumble about this thread are super offensive.

Can someone explain to me what "canadian baconing" a woman is?[/quote]
From urbandictionary

Sex with a Canadian girl.
You get that canadian bacon?
Yeah boy, we did it last night

Used to define one's extraordinary large or thick penis. Originates from the
thickness of the breakfast meat it's named after. Meat being another slang for penis.
Click here for tripple x canadian bacon.
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