https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiqicP2pfCqCdFo2V3FfTUVwbHB1YWZYYUdjVFBtVVE
Just like the previous seasons, all invite teams (minus poll team) had a chance to decide which weapons are banned. A weapon needed 4 votes to be banned. I highlighted all the weapons that were on the fence (3-4 votes) in yellow. If I forgot a weapon, just post it in comments and I'll see to it.
Enjoy.
Note: ESEA rulebook will be updated soon... I promise.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiqicP2pfCqCdFo2V3FfTUVwbHB1YWZYYUdjVFBtVVE
Just like the previous seasons, all invite teams (minus poll team) had a chance to decide which weapons are banned. A weapon needed 4 votes to be banned. I highlighted all the weapons that were on the fence (3-4 votes) in yellow. If I forgot a weapon, just post it in comments and I'll see to it.
Enjoy.
Note: ESEA rulebook will be updated soon... I promise.
no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come
no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come
I don't see the Flying Guillotine (scout cleaver) on the weapon list. Pleasee don't ban it, it's so good.
I don't see the Flying Guillotine (scout cleaver) on the weapon list. Pleasee don't ban it, it's so good.
that weapon is retarded, does like 60 dmg from a distance when you hit them and it makes you bleed. plus the charge up time is quick. its like a boston basher only way better definitely a pub weapon and not comp
that weapon is retarded, does like 60 dmg from a distance when you hit them and it makes you bleed. plus the charge up time is quick. its like a boston basher only way better definitely a pub weapon and not comp
Thanks for telling me. Flying Guillotine will be banned.
Thanks for telling me. Flying Guillotine will be banned.
breloomno ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come
think people chose not to ban it because its so bad.
[quote=breloom]no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come[/quote]
think people chose not to ban it because its so bad.
Please ban things that make people bleed from distance my dx8 can't take it.
Please ban things that make people bleed from distance my dx8 can't take it.
I DIDNT KNOW IF 1 MEANTH ALLOW OR BAN?, so I put allow and Ban. ty for putting up with me killing
I DIDNT KNOW IF 1 MEANTH ALLOW OR BAN?, so I put allow and Ban. ty for putting up with me killing
Righteous Bison triumphant return
Righteous Bison triumphant return
Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?
(you can see enemy uber charge)
Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?
(you can see enemy uber charge)
waefwaefSolemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?
(you can see enemy uber charge)
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't
[quote=waefwaef]Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?
(you can see enemy uber charge)[/quote]
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't
what
solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge
what
solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge
tranchemusicwhat
solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge
It shows everything looking at teammates does.
[quote=tranchemusic]what
solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge[/quote]
It shows everything looking at teammates does.
Heavy not banned, thoughts?
I'm going to be interested to see if weapons like the Baby Face Blaster, Huntsman and Third Degree are used. I noticed Deadringer wasn't listed?
[s]Heavy not banned, thoughts?[/s]
I'm going to be interested to see if weapons like the Baby Face Blaster, Huntsman and Third Degree are used. I noticed Deadringer wasn't listed?
But double gunslinger engie mids were fucking amazing QQ
But double gunslinger engie mids were fucking amazing QQ
bison unbanned.
I have been waiting seasons for this day.
bison unbanned.
I have been waiting seasons for this day.
Neon Annihilator isn't on the list. It's pretty shitty though so whatever.
Neon Annihilator isn't on the list. It's pretty shitty though so whatever.
#19
Huntsman has been unbanned since its inception, Carnage used it like twice back in the hey day on Badlands last and Gravel Pit and that is about it.
#19
Huntsman has been unbanned since its inception, Carnage used it like twice back in the hey day on Badlands last and Gravel Pit and that is about it.
Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.
Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.
BerethWhy ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.
[quote=Bereth]Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.[/quote]
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.
DrPloxoBerethWhy ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.
More like free teleport to spawn with no spawn timer. Just speeds up escapes.
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=Bereth]Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.[/quote]
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.[/quote]
More like free teleport to spawn with no spawn timer. Just speeds up escapes.
dfy
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't
I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.
[quote=dfy]
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't[/quote]
I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.
Solemn Vow could be interesting...some medics rarely get melee swings in when they aren't guaranteed to die anyways so it might be compelling enough to use.
Solemn Vow could be interesting...some medics rarely get melee swings in when they aren't guaranteed to die anyways so it might be compelling enough to use.
Thomasduhtraindfy
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't
I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.
Every team I've played with since season 5 has just called out uber times based on the minimum amount of time they could possibly be taking to build another. If you know when their medic spawns/ends uber/etc. you can probably estimate within a good 5% of what their percentage is. Solemn vow really does not afford a massive advantage since anything it is doing for you is fairly easily made up by other members of your team comming and watching the enemy team properly. It might be nice to call focuses at mids, but even then that's probably handled by the pocket and fairly easily estimated.
[quote=Thomasduhtrain][quote=dfy]
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.
you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't[/quote]
I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.[/quote]
Every team I've played with since season 5 has just called out uber times based on the minimum amount of time they could possibly be taking to build another. If you know when their medic spawns/ends uber/etc. you can probably estimate within a good 5% of what their percentage is. Solemn vow really does not afford a massive advantage since anything it is doing for you is fairly easily made up by other members of your team comming and watching the enemy team properly. It might be nice to call focuses at mids, but even then that's probably handled by the pocket and fairly easily estimated.
Did these guys really vote to ban an item that does nothing except give the sniper 25 extra health?
For God's sake man up.
Actually nvm you guys are right Ruwin singlehandedly won all of mixup's gpit matches sniping into blu spawn with 150hp instead of 125.
Did these guys really vote to ban an item that does nothing except give the sniper 25 extra health?
For God's sake man up.
Actually nvm you guys are right Ruwin singlehandedly won all of mixup's gpit matches sniping into blu spawn with 150hp instead of 125.
Season 12 -> Season 13
Unbanned:
- Baby Face's Blaster
- Concheror
- Righteous Bison
- Manmelter
- Scorch Shot
- Third Degree
- Neon Annhiliator? (not voted on)
- Splendid Screen
- Dalokohs Bar
- Family Business
- Warrior's Spiit
- Eviction Notice
- Solemn Vow
- Shahanshah
- Red-Tape Recorder
Banned:
- Frontier Justice
- Darwin's Danger Shield
Season 12 -> Season 13
Unbanned:
- Baby Face's Blaster
- Concheror
- Righteous Bison
- Manmelter
- Scorch Shot
- Third Degree
- [b]Neon Annhiliator?[/b] (not voted on)
- Splendid Screen
- Dalokohs Bar
- Family Business
- Warrior's Spiit
- Eviction Notice
- Solemn Vow
- Shahanshah
- Red-Tape Recorder
Banned:
- Frontier Justice
- Darwin's Danger Shield