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#241
1 Frags +

Why 16GB RAM? Why a 600W PSU? Why no SSD?

Why 16GB RAM? Why a 600W PSU? Why no SSD?
242
#242
1 Frags +

There's a lot of things about this build that I don't like.
CPU is ok-ish. There's better for almost the same price but it's ok.
Mainboard is a bit too low end for my taste.
16GB RAM is bullshit if you're on a tight budget and not doing any video editing or rendering. Low Voltage RAM is a Desktop PC is bullshit no matter how you put it. It's simply more expensive.
The HDD isn't bad, but I'm always picking on 1TB HDDs with 32MB cache so with 2TB I can't let that slide.
No SSD.
A 750 Ti is bullshit, especially with that PSU. The selling point of the 750 Ti is the low power consumption. With a 600W PSU it won't matter if the GPU pulls 60W or 100W, so you're just paying more for worse performance.
Link for the case?
That build would draw 300W max. A 600W is beyong overkill, it's just bullshit.
It's had to get something wrong with the ODD though.
WLAN card seems fine.

OS included?

Please link some Portugese online shops, I don't know any and pcpartpicker doesn't have Portugal yet. I should be able to do a build that gets your friend double the fps and an SSD for the same price. What HDD size does he need? If he needs more than 2 TB it's cheaper to buy a big enough HDD now, especially since 3TB gets you the most space per €.

There's a lot of things about this build that I don't like.
CPU is ok-ish. There's better for almost the same price but it's ok.
Mainboard is a bit too low end for my taste.
16GB RAM is bullshit if you're on a tight budget and not doing any video editing or rendering. Low Voltage RAM is a Desktop PC is bullshit no matter how you put it. It's simply more expensive.
The HDD isn't bad, but I'm always picking on 1TB HDDs with 32MB cache so with 2TB I can't let that slide.
No SSD.
A 750 Ti is bullshit, especially with that PSU. The selling point of the 750 Ti is the low power consumption. With a 600W PSU it won't matter if the GPU pulls 60W or 100W, so you're just paying more for worse performance.
Link for the case?
That build would draw 300W max. A 600W is beyong overkill, it's just bullshit.
It's had to get something wrong with the ODD though.
WLAN card seems fine.

OS included?

Please link some Portugese online shops, I don't know any and pcpartpicker doesn't have Portugal yet. I should be able to do a build that gets your friend double the fps and an SSD for the same price. What HDD size does he need? If he needs more than 2 TB it's cheaper to buy a big enough HDD now, especially since 3TB gets you the most space per €.
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#243
0 Frags +
sidestepWhy 16GB RAM? Why a 600W PSU? Why no SSD?

Dunno I'm just the messenger, I tried to explain that 16GB RAM is way more thn what he needs but lets see if I can make him think about it.

SetsulThere's a lot of things about this build that I don't like.
CPU is ok-ish. There's better for almost the same price but it's ok.
Mainboard is a bit too low end for my taste.
16GB RAM is bullshit if you're on a tight budget and not doing any video editing or rendering. Low Voltage RAM is a Desktop PC is bullshit no matter how you put it. It's simply more expensive.
The HDD isn't bad, but I'm always picking on 1TB HDDs with 32MB cache so with 2TB I can't let that slide.
No SSD.
A 750 Ti is bullshit, especially with that PSU. The selling point of the 750 Ti is the low power consumption. With a 600W PSU it won't matter if the GPU pulls 60W or 100W, so you're just paying more for worse performance.
Link for the case?
That build would draw 300W max. A 600W is beyong overkill, it's just bullshit.
It's had to get something wrong with the ODD though.
WLAN card seems fine.

OS included?

Please link some Portugese online shops, I don't know any and pcpartpicker doesn't have Portugal yet. I should be able to do a build that gets your friend double the fps and an SSD for the same price. What HDD size does he need? If he needs more than 2 TB it's cheaper to buy a big enough HDD now, especially since 3TB gets you the most space per €.

Alientech is the one I kinda like the most. If you use this website ( KuantoKusta ) you can use it to search the product on all ( i think ) online shops available just need to type the product you need and hit "Pesquisar". Unfornately the website its only in Portuguese but I think you can handle it.

And details about what he really wants I think its only gaming in general and links for cases I have none cause there was no specific details on the parts on the e-mail the shop sent him

[quote=sidestep]Why 16GB RAM? Why a 600W PSU? Why no SSD?[/quote]

Dunno I'm just the messenger, I tried to explain that 16GB RAM is way more thn what he needs but lets see if I can make him think about it.

[quote=Setsul]There's a lot of things about this build that I don't like.
CPU is ok-ish. There's better for almost the same price but it's ok.
Mainboard is a bit too low end for my taste.
16GB RAM is bullshit if you're on a tight budget and not doing any video editing or rendering. Low Voltage RAM is a Desktop PC is bullshit no matter how you put it. It's simply more expensive.
The HDD isn't bad, but I'm always picking on 1TB HDDs with 32MB cache so with 2TB I can't let that slide.
No SSD.
A 750 Ti is bullshit, especially with that PSU. The selling point of the 750 Ti is the low power consumption. With a 600W PSU it won't matter if the GPU pulls 60W or 100W, so you're just paying more for worse performance.
Link for the case?
That build would draw 300W max. A 600W is beyong overkill, it's just bullshit.
It's had to get something wrong with the ODD though.
WLAN card seems fine.

OS included?

Please link some Portugese online shops, I don't know any and pcpartpicker doesn't have Portugal yet. I should be able to do a build that gets your friend double the fps and an SSD for the same price. What HDD size does he need? If he needs more than 2 TB it's cheaper to buy a big enough HDD now, especially since 3TB gets you the most space per €.[/quote]


[url=http://www.alientech.pt/]Alientech[/url] is the one I kinda like the most. If you use this website ( [url=http://www.kuantokusta.pt/]KuantoKusta[/url] ) you can use it to search the product on all ( i think ) online shops available just need to type the product you need and hit "Pesquisar". Unfornately the website its only in Portuguese but I think you can handle it.

And details about what he really wants I think its only gaming in general and links for cases I have none cause there was no specific details on the parts on the e-mail the shop sent him
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#244
3 Frags +

That is even better than just linking a shop, thanks.
This is just a rough sketch.

CPU: i5-4690 185€
MB: Asrock B85M Pro4 65€
RAM: Crucial 2*4GB 1600Mhz CL9 70€ (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00)
SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 85€
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 50€ (2TB 70€, 3TB 90€)
GPU: MSI R9 280X 175€
PSU: CX500M 60€
ODD: Lite-on iHas124 bulk or w/e 20€
Case:CM N200 or w/e 40€

Total: 750€

Cheaper, way better GPU (there's also a 290 Tri-X for 325€ to consider), SSD, slightly better CPU.

That is even better than just linking a shop, thanks.
This is just a rough sketch.

CPU: i5-4690 185€
MB: Asrock B85M Pro4 65€
RAM: Crucial 2*4GB 1600Mhz CL9 70€ (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00)
SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 85€
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 50€ (2TB 70€, 3TB 90€)
GPU: MSI R9 280X 175€
PSU: CX500M 60€
ODD: Lite-on iHas124 bulk or w/e 20€
Case:CM N200 or w/e 40€

Total: 750€

Cheaper, way better GPU (there's also a 290 Tri-X for 325€ to consider), SSD, slightly better CPU.
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#245
0 Frags +

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.19 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card ($101.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Rosewill 40-1 Internal Card Reader ($14.99)
Total: $616.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 19:33 EDT-0400

I'm building this PC for my father, who is going to probably use it for semi-modern games as well as work. He wanted it as cheap as possible.
Is there anything that stands out that needs to be changed?

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CywcBm]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CywcBm/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54430]Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($189.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b85g41pcmate]MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.19 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1600c9]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($89.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx750phoc1gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card[/url] ($101.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($66.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze]SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas12414]Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($12.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Other:[/b] Rosewill 40-1 Internal Card Reader ($14.99)
[b]Total:[/b] $616.11
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 19:33 EDT-0400[/i]

I'm building this PC for my father, who is going to probably use it for semi-modern games as well as work. He wanted it as cheap as possible.
Is there anything that stands out that needs to be changed?
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#246
3 Frags +

Sorry, I haven't looked at this thread for a couple of days.

300W PSU would been enough.
I'd go with 2*2GB RAM at first. The mobo got 4 slots so you could upgrade to 8GB if you ever need it.
CPU and GPU are a bit mismatched. A low-end Haswell i5 should be accompanied by something like a 280X or 770. Since the objective is "as cheap as possible" either drop down to a Pentium G3220 and keep the 750 or get a 760K and a 750 Ti or 265.

Have you though about microATX?

Sorry, I haven't looked at this thread for a couple of days.

300W PSU would been enough.
I'd go with 2*2GB RAM at first. The mobo got 4 slots so you could upgrade to 8GB if you ever need it.
CPU and GPU are a bit mismatched. A low-end Haswell i5 should be accompanied by something like a 280X or 770. Since the objective is "as cheap as possible" either drop down to a Pentium G3220 and keep the 750 or get a 760K and a 750 Ti or 265.

Have you though about microATX?
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#247
2 Frags +

I have absolutely no idea what is good hardware anymore, so hopefully some of you fellows can help me out.
I'm mainly aiming for it to be good for handling 3D modeling, but I'll do some gaming on the side as well (I don't need to play the latest games on max graphics or anything).

What I threw together:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($332.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($151.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1014.91

Few notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.
Might've gone overkill on the RAM..
I'd highly prefer a nVidia card (from what I can tell they're a lot more stable with Maya)
I plan on dual booting Windows and Linux
I'm using a 1080p 144hz

My current set-up:
Asus P7P55-M mobo
i5 750 cpu
GTS 250 gpu
4 GB RAM (don't remember stats on that)

I'd be ok with stripping parts from that if they're not ancient relics by today's standards.

I have absolutely no idea what is good hardware anymore, so hopefully some of you fellows can help me out.
I'm mainly aiming for it to be good for handling 3D modeling, but I'll do some gaming on the side as well (I don't need to play the latest games on max graphics or anything).

What I threw together:

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YvY623]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YvY623/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k]Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($332.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87pro]Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($151.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c10d16gtx]G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($174.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750m]Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $1014.91

Few notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.
Might've gone overkill on the RAM..
I'd highly prefer a nVidia card (from what I can tell they're a lot more stable with Maya)
I plan on dual booting Windows and Linux
I'm using a 1080p 144hz

My current set-up:
Asus P7P55-M mobo
i5 750 cpu
GTS 250 gpu
4 GB RAM (don't remember stats on that)

I'd be ok with stripping parts from that if they're not ancient relics by today's standards.
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#248
2 Frags +

How serious are you about 3D modeling?
I'm guessing you're using multithreaded?

Overclocking yes or no?
Thought about ECC RAM?
1080p 144Hz so it's a TN panel I guess? The lower colour depth on GeForce won't matter then, so definitely no need for a Quadro.

What about (an) HDD(s)?
Keeping your old case aswell?
Do you need WLAN?

Some things that I can already tell you:
CPU: The 4790K is faster and cheaper.
PSU: 400W would be enough, 500W for lots of overclocking headroom and a more power hungry GPU.
The new EVGA SuperNova NEX 650W is currently on sale at newegg. You won't find another PSU with the same performance OR fully modular for 50$, let alone both.

A few possible builds:
Maximum Performance (except for the GPU)
OC, no ECC, no WLAN, cooler needs to be added later
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($135.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Xtreem 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $935.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:27 EDT-0400

Less powerful but a lot cheaper
No OC, no ECC, no WLAN
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Team Xtreem 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $827.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:27 EDT-0400

Cheapest, sacrifing RAM bandwidth and size (2 more modules can be added later, speed is limited to 1600MHz though).
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $718.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:29 EDT-0400

How serious are you about 3D modeling?
I'm guessing you're using multithreaded?

Overclocking yes or no?
Thought about ECC RAM?
1080p 144Hz so it's a TN panel I guess? The lower colour depth on GeForce won't matter then, so definitely no need for a Quadro.

What about (an) HDD(s)?
Keeping your old case aswell?
Do you need WLAN?

Some things that I can already tell you:
CPU: The 4790K is faster and cheaper.
PSU: 400W would be enough, 500W for lots of overclocking headroom and a more power hungry GPU.
The new EVGA SuperNova NEX 650W is currently on sale at newegg. You won't find another PSU with the same performance OR fully modular for 50$, let alone both.


A few possible builds:
Maximum Performance (except for the GPU)
OC, no ECC, no WLAN, cooler needs to be added later
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RGTbyc]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RGTbyc/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($309.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($135.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txwd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($144.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $935.91
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:27 EDT-0400[/i]

Less powerful but a lot cheaper
No OC, no ECC, no WLAN
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pMtm23]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pMtm23/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97pcmate]MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txwd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($144.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $827.91
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:27 EDT-0400[/i]

Cheapest, sacrifing RAM bandwidth and size (2 more modules can be added later, speed is limited to 1600MHz though).
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9dVqNG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9dVqNG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3h]Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($56.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tlyd38g1600hc9dc01]Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($68.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $718.91
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-03 05:29 EDT-0400[/i]
249
#249
0 Frags +

Could wait for rest of the 9xx series to come out. 960 could be a godsend for cheaper builds. I think it's released this month. Also from what I've heard, anything above DDR3 1600 cl9 is pointless (idk how accurate that is though, I'm no scientist). I personally would go for 16 gb ram but mainly because when I play star citizen windows pops up "pls download more ram". Fucking star citizen.

Could wait for rest of the 9xx series to come out. 960 could be a godsend for cheaper builds. I think it's released this month. Also from what I've heard, anything above DDR3 1600 cl9 is pointless (idk how accurate that is though, I'm no scientist). I personally would go for 16 gb ram but mainly because when I play star citizen windows pops up "pls download more ram". Fucking star citizen.
250
#250
1 Frags +

#250
Forgot to mention the 960. Thanks for the reminder.
With the exception of Star Citizen 16GB RAM is pointless for gaming.
This mostly about rendering. And rendering is a whole different affair. Hardware requirements can go as far as "anything with less than 2 figure core count and 3 figure RAM capacity in GB is underpowered". I don't think zigzter needs something that extreme but for Maya the rule for RAM is "get as much as you can get/afford". A render might crash simply because you have "only 8GB RAM". About the speed, 1600Mhz is fine for games and everything, but games don't spend their day loading and saving a metric fuckton of data. Have you ever thought "Who the fuck needs a 1TB SSD?" Take a guess, it's those guys.

#250
Forgot to mention the 960. Thanks for the reminder.
With the exception of Star Citizen 16GB RAM is pointless for gaming.
This mostly about rendering. And rendering is a whole different affair. Hardware requirements can go as far as "anything with less than 2 figure core count and 3 figure RAM capacity in GB is underpowered". I don't think zigzter needs something that extreme but for Maya the rule for RAM is "get as much as you can get/afford". A render might crash simply because you have "only 8GB RAM". About the speed, 1600Mhz is fine for games and everything, but games don't spend their day loading and saving a metric fuckton of data. Have you ever thought "Who the fuck needs a 1TB SSD?" Take a guess, it's those guys.
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#251
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Hey guys, I'm looking for something that can run TF2 in dx9 with medium settings at ~175 fps, and CS:GO with ~120 at 1080p
I would like an SSD
I don't mind overclocking, but I won't unless I really have to
My budget would be around $1300, pretty flexible though

Hey guys, I'm looking for something that can run TF2 in dx9 with medium settings at ~175 fps, and CS:GO with ~120 at 1080p
I would like an SSD
I don't mind overclocking, but I won't unless I [b]really[/b] have to
My budget would be around $1300, pretty flexible though
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#252
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SetsulHow serious are you about 3D modeling?

Very. I'm working on getting my first studio job and turning it into a career.

I'm guessing you're using multithreaded?

Whenever I render something, yeah.

Overclocking yes or no?

Kinda iffy about it since I've never done it. If it's OC out of the box I'm fine with it.

Thought about ECC RAM?

Would be great, but only if it doesn't break the bank too much.

1080p 144Hz so it's a TN panel I guess? The lower colour depth on GeForce won't matter then, so definitely no need for a Quadro.

Forgot to mention I have a Dell 2209WA as a secondary, but amazing color isn't too important to me.

What about (an) HDD(s)?

I have two externals (500 and 640), though I was kind of considering adding another internal HDD (or SSD even) to have Windows and Linux on separate drives.

Keeping your old case aswell?

If it's compatible with the new stuff. I'll have to figure out what type it is..
Edit: Found it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203

Do you need WLAN?

Nope.

(Thanks for the feedback :3 )

[quote=Setsul]How serious are you about 3D modeling?[/quote]
Very. I'm working on getting my first studio job and turning it into a career.
[quote]I'm guessing you're using multithreaded?[/quote]
Whenever I render something, yeah.

[quote]Overclocking yes or no?[/quote]
Kinda iffy about it since I've never done it. If it's OC out of the box I'm fine with it.
[quote]Thought about ECC RAM?[/quote]
Would be great, but only if it doesn't break the bank too much.
[quote]1080p 144Hz so it's a TN panel I guess? The lower colour depth on GeForce won't matter then, so definitely no need for a Quadro.[/quote]
Forgot to mention I have a Dell 2209WA as a secondary, but amazing color isn't too important to me.

[quote]What about (an) HDD(s)?[/quote]
I have two externals (500 and 640), though I was kind of considering adding another internal HDD (or SSD even) to have Windows and Linux on separate drives.
[quote]Keeping your old case aswell?[/quote]
If it's compatible with the new stuff. I'll have to figure out what type it is..
Edit: Found it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119203
[quote]Do you need WLAN?[/quote]
Nope.

(Thanks for the feedback :3 )
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#253
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EDIT: added #252
#252
You need to up your requirements or lower your budget. Both of these build will perform way beyond what you requested and don't come close to your budget. I mean I could push it to 970s in SLI but that's more like Crysis 3/Metro LL 1080p ~120fps, CS:GO max settings ~600fps (rough estimate)
SLI-capable:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1106.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:30 EDT-0400

no SLI possible
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1036.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:34 EDT-0400

#253
CPUs are never oc'd out of the box. Considering you haven't oc'd before, don't need the absolute highest singlethreaded performance for multithreaded and want/could use ECC, I'd definitely recommend going for a Xeon instead of a "K" i7.

Keep in mind you won't get 2400MHz CL10, you'll get 1600MHz CL11 and probably pay more for it than for 2400. I don't know any server hardware retailers in the US, so you might be able to find 1600 ECC at the price of non-ECC 1600 +10%.

Just judging by newegg's prices going for unbuffered ECC and a comparable motherboard will add about 100-150$.

Rough sketch:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Open Box ASUS P9D-V ATX ($126.79)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 ECC 1600MHz ($179.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $899.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 09:38 EDT-0400

For comparision:
Open Box ASUS P9D-V
C224, 1x PCIe 3.0 x16

Some more motherboards:
Open Box ASRock E3C224-V+
+Two more SATA3 ports (Marvell controller)
+Two PCIe x16 slots -> second GPU possible (Quadro later on or SLI)
-Both x16 slots running at 3.0 x8 (shouldn't matter too much, only reason I didn't use this oe was to keep iot <900$)

Open Box SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SAE-O
+2 SATA3 ports (ASMedia)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226 (6x SATA3 instead of 4x SATA3 + 2x SATA2)

Not Open Box:
SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O
+not open box
-C222 (2x SATA3 + 4x SATA2)
-2x SATA2 removed so only 4x SATA in total.
-PCIe x16 slot running at 3.0 x8

ASRock E3C224-V+
+Same as above, only new instead of open box

ASRock C226 WS
+not open box
+4 SATA3 ports (2x Marvell SE9172)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226

My knowledge regarding single-socket Workstation/Server motherboards, availability and pricing of those and ECC RAM in the US is rather limited though.

EDIT: added #252
#252
You need to up your requirements or lower your budget. Both of these build will perform way beyond what you requested and don't come close to your budget. I mean I could push it to 970s in SLI but that's more like Crysis 3/Metro LL 1080p ~120fps, CS:GO max settings ~600fps (rough estimate)
SLI-capable:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MN2FYJ]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MN2FYJ/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extreme3]ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($109.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory[/url] ($74.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42972kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card[/url] ($329.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $1106.86
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:30 EDT-0400[/i]

no SLI possible
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YyQzHx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YyQzHx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory[/url] ($74.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42972kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card[/url] ($329.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $1036.86
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:34 EDT-0400[/i]

#253
CPUs are never oc'd out of the box. Considering you haven't oc'd before, don't need the absolute highest singlethreaded performance for multithreaded and want/could use ECC, I'd definitely recommend going for a Xeon instead of a "K" i7.

Keep in mind you won't get 2400MHz CL10, you'll get 1600MHz CL11 and probably pay more for it than for 2400. I don't know any server hardware retailers in the US, so you might be able to find 1600 ECC at the price of non-ECC 1600 +10%.

Just judging by newegg's prices going for unbuffered ECC and a comparable motherboard will add about 100-150$.

Rough sketch:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PsMnNG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PsMnNG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132004R]Open Box ASUS P9D-V ATX[/url] ($126.79)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148669]Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 ECC 1600MHz[/url] ($179.99)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $899.71
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 09:38 EDT-0400[/i]

For comparision:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132004R]Open Box ASUS P9D-V[/url]
C224, 1x PCIe 3.0 x16

Some more motherboards:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157403R]Open Box ASRock E3C224-V+[/url]
+Two more SATA3 ports (Marvell controller)
+Two PCIe x16 slots -> second GPU possible (Quadro later on or SLI)
-Both x16 slots running at 3.0 x8 (shouldn't matter too much, only reason I didn't use this oe was to keep iot <900$)

[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182831R]Open Box SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SAE-O[/url]
+2 SATA3 ports (ASMedia)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226 (6x SATA3 instead of 4x SATA3 + 2x SATA2)

Not Open Box:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182835]SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O[/url]
+not open box
-C222 (2x SATA3 + 4x SATA2)
-2x SATA2 removed so only 4x SATA in total.
-PCIe x16 slot running at 3.0 x8

[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157403]ASRock E3C224-V+[/url]
+Same as above, only new instead of open box

[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157409]ASRock C226 WS[/url]
+not open box
+4 SATA3 ports (2x Marvell SE9172)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226


My knowledge regarding single-socket Workstation/Server motherboards, availability and pricing of those and ECC RAM in the US is rather limited though.
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#254
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I don't really know shit about them so I feel the need to ask you Setsul, what is it with you and (almost) always recommending Xeon processors?

I don't really know shit about them so I feel the need to ask you Setsul, what is it with you and (almost) always recommending Xeon processors?
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#255
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zigzterI have absolutely no idea what is good hardware anymore, so hopefully some of you fellows can help me out.
I'm mainly aiming for it to be good for handling 3D modeling, but I'll do some gaming on the side as well (I don't need to play the latest games on max graphics or anything).

What I threw together:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($332.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($151.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1014.91

Few notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.
Might've gone overkill on the RAM..
I'd highly prefer a nVidia card (from what I can tell they're a lot more stable with Maya)
I plan on dual booting Windows and Linux
I'm using a 1080p 144hz

My current set-up:
Asus P7P55-M mobo
i5 750 cpu
GTS 250 gpu
4 GB RAM (don't remember stats on that)

I'd be ok with stripping parts from that if they're not ancient relics by today's standards.

That would be great for modeling, however I would go for the newer 4790K and a z97 motherboard. Then I would save money on ram and the PSU (get ~500w), then buy a GTX 970 instead, if you can.

[quote=zigzter]I have absolutely no idea what is good hardware anymore, so hopefully some of you fellows can help me out.
I'm mainly aiming for it to be good for handling 3D modeling, but I'll do some gaming on the side as well (I don't need to play the latest games on max graphics or anything).

What I threw together:

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YvY623]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YvY623/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k]Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($332.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87pro]Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($151.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c10d16gtx]G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($174.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc]MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750m]Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $1014.91

Few notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.
Might've gone overkill on the RAM..
I'd highly prefer a nVidia card (from what I can tell they're a lot more stable with Maya)
I plan on dual booting Windows and Linux
I'm using a 1080p 144hz

My current set-up:
Asus P7P55-M mobo
i5 750 cpu
GTS 250 gpu
4 GB RAM (don't remember stats on that)

I'd be ok with stripping parts from that if they're not ancient relics by today's standards.[/quote]

That would be great for modeling, however I would go for the newer 4790K and a z97 motherboard. Then I would save money on ram and the PSU (get ~500w), then buy a GTX 970 instead, if you can.
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#256
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#255
Right now I'm just recommending Xeons whenever one would recommend a non-OC i7. Basically the only i7 worth recommending right now is the 4790K if you a) want to overclock or b) need the world's highest single-threaded performance.

IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION AHEAD, YOU CAN SKIP THIS PARAGRAPH IF YOU WANT.

Traditionally the Xeon E3-12xx are basically the same as an i5 (122x) or an i7 with the same clockrate with the only exception that only those ending on 5 having an iGPU. Their iGPU-less counterparts ending on 0 are cheaper.
The price of 122x (the i5 equivalent) tended to be too close to the 123x's to be cheaper than an i5. There are no 125x and usually no 126x, the 127x are significantly more expensive and not worth it anymore, the 128x are double the 127x's prices for some reason and the 129x almost triple, but the 123x and 124x hit a sweet spot.

The 1230 and 1240 tended to be significantly cheaper than an i7 at only slightly lower speed because you didn't have to pay for an iGPU that you wouldn't use anyway.

Some more details if you're interested:
With the current generation (4xxx for i7s and v3 for the Xeons) Intel has gone absolutely bonkers on the pricing. The clockrates stayed the same, the i7s got more expensive, the Xeons got cheaper.

With the newer versions with the same features (ending on 1 and 6) being 0.1GHz faster AT THE SAME PRICE OR CHEAPER than the corresponding 0 or 5 version it has become absolutely ridiculous.

You can even get a Xeon with higher clock speed AND an iGPU for less than an i7 with the only exceptions being the 4790 and 4790K.

tl;dr
The Xeon E3-1231 v3 just wins a price/performance comparision by a wide margin.
The i7-4790 is 6% faster at best but 20% more expensive.
The i7-4790K is 18% faster at best but 35% more expensive.
The only reasons to even consider the 4790K are a) maximum performance b) overclocking.

#255
Right now I'm just recommending Xeons whenever one would recommend a non-OC i7. Basically the only i7 worth recommending right now is the 4790K if you a) want to overclock or b) need the world's highest single-threaded performance.
[b]
IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION AHEAD, YOU CAN SKIP THIS PARAGRAPH IF YOU WANT.[/b]
Traditionally the Xeon E3-12xx are basically the same as an i5 (122x) or an i7 with the same clockrate with the only exception that only those ending on 5 having an iGPU. Their iGPU-less counterparts ending on 0 are cheaper.
The price of 122x (the i5 equivalent) tended to be too close to the 123x's to be cheaper than an i5. There are no 125x and usually no 126x, the 127x are significantly more expensive and not worth it anymore, the 128x are double the 127x's prices for some reason and the 129x almost triple, but the 123x and 124x hit a sweet spot.


The 1230 and 1240 tended to be significantly cheaper than an i7 at only slightly lower speed because you didn't have to pay for an iGPU that you wouldn't use anyway.

Some more details if you're interested:
With the current generation (4xxx for i7s and v3 for the Xeons) Intel has gone absolutely bonkers on the pricing. The clockrates stayed the same, the i7s got more expensive, the Xeons got cheaper.

With the newer versions with the same features (ending on 1 and 6) being 0.1GHz faster AT THE SAME PRICE OR CHEAPER than the corresponding 0 or 5 version it has become absolutely ridiculous.

You can even get a Xeon with higher clock speed AND an iGPU for less than an i7 with the only exceptions being the 4790 and 4790K.

[b]tl;dr[/b]
The Xeon E3-1231 v3 just wins a price/performance comparision by a wide margin.
The i7-4790 is 6% faster at best but 20% more expensive.
The i7-4790K is 18% faster at best but 35% more expensive.
The only reasons to even consider the 4790K are a) maximum performance b) overclocking.
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#257
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So if I were to skip out on ECC to save money, would you still recommend your initial 3 builds?

On a side note, I forgot to mention I want an UEFI mobo. (Or do they all support UEFI now?)

Edit: Switching to the Canadian PCPP makes your 2nd option about $65 cheaper. Since I'm already paying a grand, would it be better to stick with #1? The i7 is only $50 more expensive than the Xeon in Canada.

So if I were to skip out on ECC to save money, would you still recommend your initial 3 builds?

On a side note, I forgot to mention I want an UEFI mobo. (Or do they all support UEFI now?)

Edit: Switching to the Canadian PCPP makes your 2nd option about $65 cheaper. Since I'm already paying a grand, would it be better to stick with #1? The i7 is only $50 more expensive than the Xeon in Canada.
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#258
3 Frags +

#258
UEFI is standard nowadays.
I completely forgot to change it to Canada and to ask you if you want the option to go SLI/adding a Quadro.

Moose approved versions of those builds (maple syrup not included):

SetsulA few possible builds:
Maximum Performance (except for the GPU)
OC, SLI, no ECC, cooler needs to be added later
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($358.32 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1039.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:22 EDT-0400
Slightly over budget, <1000$ is easily possible though.
E.g. motherboard Asus Z87-A, GPU Asus GTX 760 DirectCU II OC brings the price down to 994.25$.

Less powerful but a lot cheaper
No OC, SLI, no ECC
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $935.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:33 EDT-0400

Cheapest, sacrifing RAM bandwidth and size (2 more modules can be added later, speed is limited to 1600MHz though).
No OC, no SLI, no ECC
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $790.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:37 EDT-0400

Bonus build:
non-SLI, Z97 build for comparision with C226.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($143.31 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $873.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:43 EDT-0400

#258
UEFI is standard nowadays.
I completely forgot to change it to Canada and to ask you if you want the option to go SLI/adding a Quadro.

Moose approved versions of those builds (maple syrup not included):
[quote=Setsul]A few possible builds:
Maximum Performance (except for the GPU)
OC, SLI, no ECC, cooler needs to be added later
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/YMkLbv]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/YMkLbv/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($358.32 @ TigerDirect Canada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($219.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr]EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $1039.25
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:22 EDT-0400[/i]
Slightly over budget, <1000$ is easily possible though.
E.g. motherboard [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A[/url], GPU [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GTX 760 DirectCU II OC[/url] brings the price down to 994.25$.


Less powerful but a lot cheaper
No OC, SLI, no ECC
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/X2dCMp]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/X2dCMp/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760oc2gdrev20]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($219.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr]EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $935.72
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:33 EDT-0400[/i]

Cheapest, sacrifing RAM bandwidth and size (2 more modules can be added later, speed is limited to 1600MHz though).
No OC, no SLI, no ECC
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZqvKNG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZqvKNG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85anniversary]ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($59.50 @ Vuugo)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1600c9g]Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card[/url] ($199.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $790.23
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:37 EDT-0400[/i]
[/quote]

Bonus build:
non-SLI, Z97 build for comparision with C226.
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZP4DmG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZP4DmG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97anniversary]ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($78.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/geil-memory-gev316gb1866c9dc]GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($143.31 @ TigerDirect Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card[/url] ($199.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $873.03
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:43 EDT-0400[/i]
259
#259
4 Frags +

Split due to post length limit:

Surprise bonus round, we're not only bringing you one but THREE ECC BUILDS:

C222
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O ($145.00)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $985.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:53 EDT-0400

C224
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O ($184.99)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1025.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:54 EDT-0400

C226
2nd GPU possible
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock C226 WS ($209.99)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1045.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 06:00 EDT-0400

Average cost to upgrade to ECC is about 130$.

Split due to post length limit:

Surprise bonus round, we're not only bringing you one but THREE ECC BUILDS:

C222
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/PMhMyc]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/PMhMyc/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O ($145.00)
[b]Memory:[/b] Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card[/url] ($199.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $985.73
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:53 EDT-0400[/i]

C224
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/TdkLbv]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/TdkLbv/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O ($184.99)
[b]Memory:[/b] Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card[/url] ($199.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $1025.72
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:54 EDT-0400[/i]

C226
2nd GPU possible
[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/FsTWK8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/FsTWK8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3]Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] ASRock C226 WS ($209.99)
[b]Memory:[/b] Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card[/url] ($199.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr]EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $1045.73
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 06:00 EDT-0400[/i]

Average cost to upgrade to ECC is about 130$.
260
#260
0 Frags +

I did some research on ECC and 3D modeling, and it seems like the price increase isn't worth it.
So I'm still leaning towards the first option.

Only thing I'm worried about is the computer not making full use of the RAM speed.
PCPP is yelling at me about the voltage exceeding the Intel recommended voltage. Does that mean the RAM would run at a slower speed? Would it be better to get some 1600 RAM instead then?

I did some research on ECC and 3D modeling, and it seems like the price increase isn't worth it.
So I'm still leaning towards the first option.

Only thing I'm worried about is the computer not making full use of the RAM speed.
PCPP is yelling at me about the voltage exceeding the Intel recommended voltage. Does that mean the RAM would run at a slower speed? Would it be better to get some 1600 RAM instead then?
261
#261
2 Frags +

Intel officially only supports 1600Mhz max and 1.5V max. It's mostly so no one can blame them if something becomes unstable. You'll just have to enable an XMP profile in the UEFI to get the RAM to run at 2400MHz. Guess whose idea XMP profiles are? Right, intel. They support those speeds (and up to 1.65V), just not officially.

Now you just need to decide wether or not you not you want the option to add a 2nd GPU.
Definitely wait one or two weeks for the GTX 960, even if you still buy a 760 it'll at least be cheaper.

Intel officially only supports 1600Mhz max and 1.5V max. It's mostly so no one can blame them if something becomes unstable. You'll just have to enable an XMP profile in the UEFI to get the RAM to run at 2400MHz. Guess whose idea XMP profiles are? Right, intel. They support those speeds (and up to 1.65V), just not officially.

Now you just need to decide wether or not you not you want the option to add a 2nd GPU.
Definitely wait one or two weeks for the GTX 960, even if you still buy a 760 it'll at least be cheaper.
262
#262
0 Frags +

Thanks for the explanation, makes a lot of sense for consumers and not very much by intel. Seems like people almost just pay for the "name" of i5 or i7.

Thanks for the explanation, makes a lot of sense for consumers and not very much by intel. Seems like people almost just pay for the "name" of i5 or i7.
263
#263
0 Frags +

Alright so I added a case (probably going to sell my current computer to a friend), and removed the GPU for now to wait for the 960, then I can see if I can get that one or see how much cheaper the 760 has become.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1000.90

Does that look good?

Edit: Also changed the PSU 'cause I like how that one is supposed to be quiet, plus it's modular.

Alright so I added a case (probably going to sell my current computer to a friend), and removed the GPU for now to wait for the 960, then I can see if I can get that one or see how much cheaper the 760 has become.

[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8Q9WK8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8Q9WK8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc2100kwn1]Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm550]Corsair RM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($124.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $1000.90


Does that look good?

Edit: Also changed the PSU 'cause I like how that one is supposed to be quiet, plus it's modular.
264
#264
0 Frags +
zigzterAlright so I added a case (probably going to sell my current computer to a friend), and removed the GPU for now to wait for the 960, then I can see if I can get that one or see how much cheaper the 760 has become.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1000.90

Does that look good?

Edit: Also changed the PSU 'cause I like how that one is supposed to be quiet, plus it's modular.

Sound good. The chances of a gtx 960 being released soon are high. I would also recommend saving some money on the case and possibly the ram, (I don't know a thing about 3D modeling so you might need it more than I think you do).

Another thing to take into account is that if i were you I would invest in a high end cooler and then overclock the i7 quite a bit. Not sure if you could stretch your budget this much though, you may need to wait and buy this later down the line.

[quote=zigzter]Alright so I added a case (probably going to sell my current computer to a friend), and removed the GPU for now to wait for the 960, then I can see if I can get that one or see how much cheaper the 760 has become.

[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8Q9WK8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8Q9WK8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc2100kwn1]Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm550]Corsair RM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($124.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $1000.90


Does that look good?

Edit: Also changed the PSU 'cause I like how that one is supposed to be quiet, plus it's modular.[/quote]

Sound good. The chances of a gtx 960 being released soon are high. I would also recommend saving some money on the case and possibly the ram, (I don't know a thing about 3D modeling so you might need it more than I think you do).

Another thing to take into account is that if i were you I would invest in a high end cooler and then overclock the i7 quite a bit. Not sure if you could stretch your budget this much though, you may need to wait and buy this later down the line.
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#265
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Is there a better cheaper case?

I liked the look of that one because of the dust filters and the handles up top.

Is there a better cheaper case?

I liked the look of that one because of the dust filters and the handles up top.
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#266
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zigzterFew notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.

You are going significantly over your budget.
Dust filters are standard. Do you need handles? Full-size ATX isn't ideal if you're going for portable.

I have to revise my motherboard recommendation. I though they carried over the vrms from the Z87X-UD3H but they actually cheaped out a bit.

Also there are so many things wrong with that PSU, I can't even list them all without needing a second post. Just the most obvious things: You'd be buying a PSU above MSRP when the except for the wattage identical 650W model and even the superior 750W model are cheaper.

Something not as obvious: It's built by CWT. C "What does QC mean" W "We forgot to solder that thing on but it sill works" T. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $915.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 05:52 EDT-0400

[quote=zigzter]Few notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.
[/quote]
You are going significantly over your budget.
Dust filters are standard. Do you need handles? Full-size ATX isn't ideal if you're going for portable.

I have to revise my motherboard recommendation. I though they carried over the vrms from the Z87X-UD3H but they actually cheaped out a bit.

Also there are so many things wrong with that PSU, I can't even list them all without needing a second post. Just the most obvious things: You'd be buying a PSU [b]above[/b] MSRP when the except for the wattage identical 650W model and even the superior 750W model are cheaper.

Something not as obvious: It's built by CWT. C "What does QC mean" W "We forgot to solder that thing on but it sill works" T. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

[url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/VjsZqs]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/VjsZqs/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2400hc10qdc01]Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc2100kwn1]Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($63.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Total:[/b] $915.91
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 05:52 EDT-0400[/i]
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#267
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Awesome, I'll go for that then, thanks. :D

Including the future GPU I'll probably be $100ish over my budget, but I'll be selling my old one for probably like 200-300 so that'll offset it a bit.

Awesome, I'll go for that then, thanks. :D

Including the future GPU I'll probably be $100ish over my budget, but I'll be selling my old one for probably like 200-300 so that'll offset it a bit.
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#268
2 Frags +

The GTX 960 might get postponed to Q1 2015.
GM204 yield rates and demand for 980/970 too high.
Literally everyone is buying one and Maxwell doesn't seem to produce enough "bad" chips to be used for the 960 and cutting them down when the demand for the 980/970 is so high just doesn't make sense.

In other news: nvidia making boatloads of money. Money bin completion planned for Q1 2015 aswell.

The GTX 960 might get postponed to Q1 2015.
GM204 yield rates and demand for 980/970 too high.
Literally everyone is buying one and Maxwell doesn't seem to produce enough "bad" chips to be used for the 960 and cutting them down when the demand for the 980/970 is so high just doesn't make sense.

In other news: nvidia making boatloads of money. Money bin completion planned for Q1 2015 aswell.
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#269
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Hmmm should I still hold off on the 760 then?

If it's only going to save me like $20 to wait, I'd rather just get it now.

Hmmm should I still hold off on the 760 then?

If it's only going to save me like $20 to wait, I'd rather just get it now.
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#270
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No reason to hold off, I don't expect price drops until Q1 2015 now.

No reason to hold off, I don't expect price drops until Q1 2015 now.
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