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FPS HELP, WILL PAY KEYS IF SOLVED
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As I continue to get more into tf2, a consistent decent framerate has become more desirable for there is a direct level of correlation between my skill level and framerate.

Yes, I am going to get hated, I play off of a 2010/11 Mac Book Pro. So, there is a bit of a barrier regarding how I should go over things considering no direct x 8 or 9. Besides that, the different OS hasn't seemed to have been any of an issue.

I have probably spent some 12 hours working on tweaking my tf2 to get decent framerate, and still can't stay at a solid 60 (I might be there for 5 minutes, and then that number gets cut in half). Often from time to time, it drops to an unbearable degree of 5-20 fps.

For starters, I have all of the in game settings down as much as possible.

2nd, I am running chris's max fps config where I have it as fps helping as it can be tweaked, I cap my fps at 65.

3rd, I am using minimal particles, I can't find the link at the moment, but basically making things like smoke/terrain damage gone, and minimalising the medigun, rockets (they are just orange balls), and removing muzzle flares from most hitscan weapons.

4th, I have a fan control program which I have noticed in the past help boost frames.

Occasionally, this setup will give me what I need, the desirable 40-60 fps average I need. But that will only last for an hour or two. I have tried literally everything I could imagine that could make a big difference. I don't care HOW butt ugly I can make this game, I just want reasonable frames. Randomly dropping to 15 fps when I launch it sometimes is literally retarded.

What is so frustrating is every once and a while I will get a solid 60 fps, and the next I won't hit 30 with the same paramaters when launching, (a few minutes after my computer is boot, NOTHING else running besides steam and tf2). So it is apparent, that my game can hit the framerate i want it is just COMPLETELY inconsistent.

If you could help reccomend me anything that would be great, I don't care how ugly it makes my game. I JUST WANT TO PLAY IT.

Thanks, and remember if you solve my problem I will give you TWO KEYS for FREE.

As I continue to get more into tf2, a consistent decent framerate has become more desirable for there is a direct level of correlation between my skill level and framerate.

Yes, I am going to get hated, I play off of a 2010/11 Mac Book Pro. So, there is a bit of a barrier regarding how I should go over things considering no direct x 8 or 9. Besides that, the different OS hasn't seemed to have been any of an issue.

I have probably spent some 12 hours working on tweaking my tf2 to get decent framerate, and still can't stay at a solid 60 (I might be there for 5 minutes, and then that number gets cut in half). Often from time to time, it drops to an unbearable degree of 5-20 fps.

For starters, I have all of the in game settings down as much as possible.

2nd, I am running chris's max fps config where I have it as fps helping as it can be tweaked, I cap my fps at 65.

3rd, I am using minimal particles, I can't find the link at the moment, but basically making things like smoke/terrain damage gone, and minimalising the medigun, rockets (they are just orange balls), and removing muzzle flares from most hitscan weapons.

4th, I have a fan control program which I have noticed in the past help boost frames.

Occasionally, this setup will give me what I need, the desirable 40-60 fps average I need. But that will only last for an hour or two. I have tried literally everything I could imagine that could make a big difference. I don't care HOW butt ugly I can make this game, I just want reasonable frames. Randomly dropping to 15 fps when I launch it sometimes is literally retarded.

What is so frustrating is every once and a while I will get a solid 60 fps, and the next I won't hit 30 with the same paramaters when launching, (a few minutes after my computer is boot, NOTHING else running besides steam and tf2). So it is apparent, that my game can hit the framerate i want it is just COMPLETELY inconsistent.

If you could help reccomend me anything that would be great, I don't care how ugly it makes my game. I JUST WANT TO PLAY IT.

Thanks, and remember if you solve my problem I will give you TWO KEYS for FREE.
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#2
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I would highly recommend setting up windows in a partition
http://www.macworld.com/article/1050374/winmacfaq.html
From there you should be able to use dx8. I don't know too much though, so other people probably will be able to help more c:

I would highly recommend setting up windows in a partition
http://www.macworld.com/article/1050374/winmacfaq.html
From there you should be able to use dx8. I don't know too much though, so other people probably will be able to help more c:
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#3
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to me the problem doesnt seem to be any of your game parameters, it seems like overheating.

to me the problem doesnt seem to be any of your game parameters, it seems like overheating.
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#4
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Are you playing in the same resolution as your native desktop resolution, as well as playing in full screen mode rather than windowed mode? Both should improve your performance if you aren't already

Are you playing in the same resolution as your native desktop resolution, as well as playing in full screen mode rather than windowed mode? Both should improve your performance if you aren't already
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#5
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"literally retarded" .__.

Anyways, have you tried a cpu optimization software like Process Lasso or Game Booster?

"literally retarded" .__.

Anyways, have you tried a cpu optimization software like Process Lasso or Game Booster?
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#6
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flippersto me the problem doesnt seem to be any of your game parameters, it seems like overheating.

I can agree, that this could be a big issue, I dont think there are any software solutions so stop the overheating so I will half to look into something physical.

TavyI would highly recommend setting up windows in a partition
http://www.macworld.com/article/1050374/winmacfaq.html
From there you should be able to use dx8. I don't know too much though, so other people probably will be able to help more c:

Thanks, I am considering this as well, tf2 runs MUCH better on the windows side of things.

[quote=flippers]to me the problem doesnt seem to be any of your game parameters, it seems like overheating.[/quote]

I can agree, that this could be a big issue, I dont think there are any software solutions so stop the overheating so I will half to look into something physical.

[quote=Tavy]I would highly recommend setting up windows in a partition
http://www.macworld.com/article/1050374/winmacfaq.html
From there you should be able to use dx8. I don't know too much though, so other people probably will be able to help more c:[/quote]

Thanks, I am considering this as well, tf2 runs MUCH better on the windows side of things.
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#7
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You should try cleaning out the fans, it instantly reduced my laptop's CPU temperatures by 30 degrees Celsius.

You should try cleaning out the fans, it instantly reduced my laptop's CPU temperatures by 30 degrees Celsius.
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#8
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Not_a_ZombieYou should try cleaning out the fans, it instantly reduced my laptop's CPU temperatures by 30 degrees Celsius.

Good idea, I will try this this weekend, maybe it can be something I get in a routine of doing once a month.

delpo"literally retarded" .__.

Anyways, have you tried a cpu optimization software like Process Lasso or Game Booster?

I haven't and from my knowledge neither of those are compatible with mac.

[quote=Not_a_Zombie]You should try cleaning out the fans, it instantly reduced my laptop's CPU temperatures by 30 degrees Celsius.[/quote]

Good idea, I will try this this weekend, maybe it can be something I get in a routine of doing once a month.[quote=delpo]"literally retarded" .__.

Anyways, have you tried a cpu optimization software like Process Lasso or Game Booster?[/quote]

I haven't and from my knowledge neither of those are compatible with mac.
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#9
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Have you checked out this thread? http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation

Have you checked out this thread? http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation
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#10
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What have you tried OUTSIDE of TF2?

Can you also post some spec's of your computer?

Honestly, it could be an overheating issue. A good number of computers also come with absolute piece of shit thermal greasing work. If that was the case with yours, that could be another cause, in which case you'd be better off re-greasing.

Well, given your comp seems to be a couple years old, it probably is a good idea to re-grease your cpu anyway...

What have you tried OUTSIDE of TF2?

Can you also post some spec's of your computer?

Honestly, it could be an overheating issue. A good number of computers also come with absolute piece of shit thermal greasing work. If that was the case with yours, that could be another cause, in which case you'd be better off re-greasing.

Well, given your comp seems to be a couple years old, it probably is a good idea to re-grease your cpu anyway...
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#11
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are you running tf2 at the lowest res possible? back when i played on a shitty laptop the game was unplayable at anything not 640x480.

are you running tf2 at the lowest res possible? back when i played on a shitty laptop the game was unplayable at anything not 640x480.
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#12
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Have you seen this thread?

[url=http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/8399-macbook-pros-and-overheating-fix-success]Have you seen this thread?[/url]
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#13
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I would recommend http://www.onyxmac.com/ helps clean stuff up and it helped with my fps drops in the past. Playing on the same computer too so I guess it might help

I would recommend http://www.onyxmac.com/ helps clean stuff up and it helped with my fps drops in the past. Playing on the same computer too so I guess it might help
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#14
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I too run on a shitty laptop here are some solutions I use for optimal FPS
1. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation/1 (Fps improver)
2. Heat my still be an issue if your laptop is elevate to encourage airflow
3. Hit Ctrl+Shift+Tab ,and go into processes ,and disable things YOU KNOW that aren`t important also right click on hl2.exe ,and set priority to high .I can`t say this for the mac never used never will .
4. Surface under the laptop should not be any fabric or cloth (pants, bedsheets ) As is will stop airflow instead have it on a hard surface ( I bypass the surface ,and shit with a laptop cooler lasted 10 yrs so far :)
5.If don`t know about about mac , but you can always lower graphics on your computer which overall intern helps lower the stress on comp.

I too run on a shitty laptop here are some solutions I use for optimal FPS
1. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation/1 (Fps improver)
2. Heat my still be an issue if your laptop is elevate to encourage airflow
3. Hit Ctrl+Shift+Tab ,and go into processes ,and disable things YOU KNOW that aren`t important also right click on hl2.exe ,and set priority to high .I can`t say this for the mac never used never will .
4. Surface under the laptop should not be any fabric or cloth (pants, bedsheets ) As is will stop airflow instead have it on a hard surface ( I bypass the surface ,and shit with a laptop cooler lasted 10 yrs so far :)
5.If don`t know about about mac , but you can always lower graphics on your computer which overall intern helps lower the stress on comp.
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#15
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ok so where are my keys i want them now add me on steam k thx bye.

ok so where are my keys i want them now add me on steam k thx bye.
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#16
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added you on steam

added you on steam
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CasualGood idea, I will try this this weekend, maybe it can be something I get in a routine of doing once a month.

once a months seems a little unnecessary, but servicing at regular intervals is a good idea.

you should also pick up a syringe of thermal compound and replace the thermal paste between your heatsink and chipset. this will make a massive difference.

[quote=Casual]
Good idea, I will try this this weekend, maybe it can be something I get in a routine of doing once a month.[/quote]

once a months seems a little unnecessary, but servicing at regular intervals is a good idea.

you should also pick up a syringe of thermal compound and replace the thermal paste between your heatsink and chipset. this will make a massive difference.
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#18
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TF2 on Mac works best with the DX9 Frames CFG.

TF2 on Mac works best with the DX9 Frames CFG.
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#19
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You might want to get a cooling pad. I have one and games which are unplayable without it run relatively smoothly. They're not too expensive either.

You might want to get a cooling pad. I have one and games which are unplayable without it run relatively smoothly. They're not too expensive either.
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forksare you running tf2 at the lowest res possible? back when i played on a shitty laptop the game was unplayable at anything not 640x480.

I used to but I find no fps difference between dirt low and max.

[quote=forks]are you running tf2 at the lowest res possible? back when i played on a shitty laptop the game was unplayable at anything not 640x480.[/quote]

I used to but I find no fps difference between dirt low and max.
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KAMOTF2 on Mac works best with the DX9 Frames CFG.

Thanks, I will switch to that one.

[quote=KAMO]TF2 on Mac works best with the DX9 Frames CFG.[/quote]

Thanks, I will switch to that one.
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BolshevikHave you checked out this thread? http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation

yep

[quote=Bolshevik]Have you checked out this thread? http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation[/quote]
yep
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#23
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ScrapGifterI too run on a shitty laptop here are some solutions I use for optimal FPS
1. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation/1 (Fps improver)
2. Heat my still be an issue if your laptop is elevate to encourage airflow
3. Hit Ctrl+Shift+Tab ,and go into processes ,and disable things YOU KNOW that aren`t important also right click on hl2.exe ,and set priority to high .I can`t say this for the mac never used never will .
4. Surface under the laptop should not be any fabric or cloth (pants, bedsheets ) As is will stop airflow instead have it on a hard surface ( I bypass the surface ,and shit with a laptop cooler lasted 10 yrs so far :)
5.If don`t know about about mac , but you can always lower graphics on your computer which overall intern helps lower the stress on comp.

Goood tips thank you, I will be trying some stuff out this weekend to test what works.

[quote=ScrapGifter]I too run on a shitty laptop here are some solutions I use for optimal FPS
1. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/7639-fps-improvement-compilation/1 (Fps improver)
2. Heat my still be an issue if your laptop is elevate to encourage airflow
3. Hit Ctrl+Shift+Tab ,and go into processes ,and disable things YOU KNOW that aren`t important also right click on hl2.exe ,and set priority to high .I can`t say this for the mac never used never will .
4. Surface under the laptop should not be any fabric or cloth (pants, bedsheets ) As is will stop airflow instead have it on a hard surface ( I bypass the surface ,and shit with a laptop cooler lasted 10 yrs so far :)
5.If don`t know about about mac , but you can always lower graphics on your computer which overall intern helps lower the stress on comp.[/quote]

Goood tips thank you, I will be trying some stuff out this weekend to test what works.
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ykpegedeseWhat have you tried OUTSIDE of TF2?

Can you also post some spec's of your computer?

Honestly, it could be an overheating issue. A good number of computers also come with absolute piece of shit thermal greasing work. If that was the case with yours, that could be another cause, in which case you'd be better off re-greasing.

Well, given your comp seems to be a couple years old, it probably is a good idea to re-grease your cpu anyway...

I definitely think overheating is a big part of the issue, and judging from the feedback I have been getting, it seems that I am going to be opening my lappy up this weekend doing some cleaning up...

And the specs:
2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 Processor
8gb 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M

[quote=ykpegedese]What have you tried OUTSIDE of TF2?

Can you also post some spec's of your computer?

Honestly, it could be an overheating issue. A good number of computers also come with absolute piece of shit thermal greasing work. If that was the case with yours, that could be another cause, in which case you'd be better off re-greasing.

Well, given your comp seems to be a couple years old, it probably is a good idea to re-grease your cpu anyway...[/quote]

I definitely think overheating is a big part of the issue, and judging from the feedback I have been getting, it seems that I am going to be opening my lappy up this weekend doing some cleaning up...

And the specs:
2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 Processor
8gb 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
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#25
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i play on a macbook pro as well and i have a constant 260+, i dunno what the fck is on your computer

i play on a macbook pro as well and i have a constant 260+, i dunno what the fck is on your computer
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